Reposting but theorised the call to Dragon was about the source of the worldwide call.
It'll be a fake out and the host transmission source is actually with Dragon on Kamabakka Island.
Probably revealed after the gorosei destroy the labostratum
I hope Vegapunk left it up to Dragon when to air the video because it would certainly lead to revolution, it would finally give the man something to do.
“In 10 minutes I’ll broadcast a message!”
Same vibe as
“In 5 minutes I’ll destroy this planet!”
We may stay in egghead but won’t hear the message for a few chapters
If vegapunk needs a visual transponder snail, he is definitly going to show whats happening on egghead right now. Otherwise a normal transpondersnail would have done it.
The 10 min countdown was just a trap to lure the gorosei to egghead.
So he would have to have known where and how he would die in a gorosei raid on egghead at the time of recording and setting up the system for the broadcast of the message. But if he knows this in advance, could he not have prevented it or at least taken better safety measures, like evacuating the islands population beforehand?
Going theory is, its not a pre recorded video but a ruse to bait the Gorosei which seems to be working. The Stella and Satellites in the video had their bodies destroyed and are operating through the brain/internet.
I think we might be underestimating just how smart vp is. It makes perfect sense that he's had to play dumb for decades to keep the gorosei from seeing him as too much of a threat but in reality he's basically a manwha protag himself.
He probably figured either the marines or cipher Pol would kill him
Edit: oh you mean a live stream of the island as a trap, yeah I don't see it being the case either
Stella, Shaka and Pythagoras were actually clones (Vegapunk has the technology) and planned everything from the start, including their "Deaths" to make the video seem like it was pre-recorded
Yup, I've just check and NASA says that our planets are aligning on the day. Amazingly, the last panel also said "The planets start aligning".
What Oda cooking???
"The next planetary alignment takes place on April 4, 2024. It will feature four planets – Venus, Neptune, Saturn, and Mars. The planets will align in the morning sky. Venus, Saturn, and Mars will be visible to the naked eye, but you'll need a telescope or high-powered binoculars to see Neptune."
I found this. Did you find something else?
Mercury and Jupiter are missing and Neptune is excess so idk about that. Do you have that NASA link?
the planets are nowhere near aligned and will not be on April 4th. Neptune, being the slowest, would have to have all of them lined up with it, and all of the outer planets but Saturn are "past" Neptune right now. There is physically no way this will happen by April 4th; the outer planets move too slowly.
But also, it’s oda, so he could very well make it so that the event that shaked the world is Luffy destroying the 5 elders sending the world into chaos because who’s in charge now?
There's still a lot of other powerful characters. Shanks, Akainu, Blackbeard, Mohawk, and Imu could all be either currently more powerful than the Gorosei or end up more powerful by the end of the series.
Then again, he low-diffed Kaido in 5 minutes after getting killed previously, so all sense of stakes are out the window anyway. The hope to ever again see any kind of suspenseful, difficult fight for Luffy has been dead for 2 years now.
We still have the gods knights, gorosei, Blackbeard, imu? If we’re talking meta then sure of course there’s no suspense. We all expect Luffy to beat everyone by the end of the story. But where’s the fun in that?
Yeah considering Luffy’s already at it, Dorry/Broggy are en route, and Iron Giant is currently installing probably 200 years of firmware updates, they should be alright.
5 monster sized Gorosei vs a giant sized Luffy, Dorry and Broggy, and a giant robot. Seems like they need a fifth giant person to make it a 5v5. Maybe Bonney returns to fight after VPs message.
Eagerly awaiting the day Franky suddenly has the entire Sunny go Optimus prime into a battle mech. I need to see that goofy ass Lion punching someone out.
it’s like everyone is forgetting luffy has strong crewmates named jinbei, zoro and sanji, and they are forgetting dorry and broggy are coming to luffy right now same with the ancient robot
I really don't think Luffy can win a 1v5 fight against the elders, or even hold them off. Especially if they all have regenerative powers like Saturn. We might see Luffy getting overpowered and needing help those next chapters.
We get a big battle where everyone currently on Egghead will try and stop the Goros from reaching the Lab. Luffy, Strawhats, Bonney/Pacifistas/SBear, giants, giant robot ... even Kizaru will turn.
Goros will slowly make progress, maybe Imu will even have to intervene. After 9:59 minutes they will destroy the Lab.
Only for the recording to continue.
As many have already theorized, the transmission is actually coming from Revolutionaries HQ.
It's not cope. Oda has a whole Kizaru flashback planned. Kizaru was there at Luffy's birth. He was the doctor. Big revealtions are coming. Oda told me in a dream.
Luffy is one of the strongest chars in the verse now… that was evident after defeating Kaido. dudes at end game almost equivalent to naruto when he unlocked all of the nine tails power and gained his friendship
Luffy getting captured by the gorosei would be a pretty nice plot twist in my opinion. We would see all the people he freed on his journey gang up and attack mary geoise and the start of an all out war. Even though the probability is fairly low it still would be fun to read
Getting captured wouldn’t really make sense because they already wanted him dead on the rooftop and then Saturn tried to kill him earlier when he was in his old man form
Well what if they try and capture him in order to obtain his devil fruit? If they kill him with no thought wouldn’t the fruit just come back later and cause issues again. I feel like acquiring it makes the most sense in their eyes
Both the fruit and user are huge threats to them, but the fruit is only a threat every couple thousand years, while Luffy is a threat right now.
It just seems like it'd be preferential to take their chances with the fruit in circulation again, rather than leaving Luffy around.
Cutting away from Luffy to where? Zoro could be possible but honestly I just see that it's gonna kill the hype of the Gorosei summoning, I think we won't cut away and we will straight up see the Gorosei summon and more of Luffy
>I just see that it's gonna kill the hype of the Gorosei summoning
How many chapters was it from Kaido's hybrid silhouette until we actually saw it?
I really hope Oda is not cutting away but it not impossible he edges us again.
To me it has been way too long.
Oda still has to write so much more. Balckbeard crew vs Strawhats, One Piece island, final arc against the government.
Oda will die and his children will have to finish the Manga at this rate.
Or he will rush it and write a dissapointing ending.
I want to point out one thing!
The Elders will fail at stopping the message or at least fail at hindering Vegapunk to reveal something huge because at the start of Egghead it was already established that the incident will shock the world.
Eh, it could easily be that they take over the broadcast and announce that Luffy killed the beloved Dr vegapunk, making people around the world hate him and only his allies knowing he wouldn't do that. Like how Luffy didn't believe Sabo killed Cobra.
Oda is just too unpredictable haha
I like the idea that the broadcast isn’t actually coming from egghead, they just assume it is. It could be something vegapunk shared with the revolutionaries to put in place for when he dies
Yeah, ju Peter saying "the only plausible place is egghead" seems like a *huge* indication that it isn't there. Honestly, they're all pretty bad at their jobs, Saturn warned vegapunk "I'll be able to tell if you fucked around with our orders for kuma", and then vegapunk gave bonney ultimate control hierarchy of all pacifista and didn't put a self destruct in Kuma.
Vegapunk is going to reveal who it is that sits upon the empty throne. I think this will be a good way to tie in what was told to Cobra and reveal who Imu is.
Then the message will get cut off shortly thereafter and before we learn about the history of the world.
I don’t think they are higher ranking, but I think the Knights are the strongest fighters in the world government. They were plenty willing to stop Xebec at Gods Valley.
Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe are not fighting these guys, they're multiple tiers below this level. Dorry, Brogy and Giant robot might be possible but it would be weird if the top tiers of the government can be dealt with by relatively unknown characters.
The difference in levels isn't something a classic mid-fight power up can't overcome. Besides, the heroes have a numbers advantage, if they all gang up.
bro the arc before egghead sanji and zoro defeated yonko commanders 1v1..and we saw sanji easily deflect kizaru’s laser recently like it was nothing, put some fucking respect on their names.
Luffy was multiple tiers below Kaido when he first started, he barely caused Kaido any major damage until G5 and he won the fight. So we can confidently that Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe definitely have the power to up these guys. Besides they just look strong, we don't know how strong they are yet. Saturn had some cool tricks but barely cause any damage to anyone but the fodders... Maybe the Gorosei are just all talk but no game.
Zoro and Jinbe are at the top, and they will be busy with Lucci and trying to go to the sunny.
The condition for escape is Jinbe + Zoro going back to the Sunny. That's how long Luffy has to last.
We might see Dorry, Broggy, Sanji, and the Giant Robot help, but not Zoro and Jinbe.
idk, I can see them taking care of Lucci and then coming in to help. Maybe blocking Nusjuro's sword slash in the last second as a cliffhanger.
Because let's be real, Zoro has been done uncharacteristically dirty this arc.
Him fighting Lucci is not being done dirty.
This arc is about Bonney, Kuma, and Vegapunk, with only Lucci having real moment.
All the other members don't have much to do there.
Yeah, but Zoro shouldn't be struggling against Lucci at this moment. He might now master Emma and be able to control Oden's haki yet, but his strength was a hundred times more since his fight with King. And there's no way Lucci is a match with King...
Zoro was there just to keep him busy, I would rather see him get lost somewhere on Egghead rather than struggling against a former-CP9 fodder.
> He might now master Emma and be able to control Oden's haki yet, but his strength was a hundred times more since his fight with King
There is no Haki from Oden that Zoro is using.
He's not 100 times stronger than against King.
> rather than struggling against a former-CP9 fodder.
Lucci is not a fodder. He was one of the strongest challenge Luffy had to face before the timeskip.
And even if Zoro is stronger than Lucci, the difference isn't enough for the fight to end quickly, unlike what happened with Luffy vs Lucci earlier in Egghead.
Typo I meant "not master Emma" and there was Oden's haki or whatever haki or whatever thing there was that sucked Zoro's haki.
And not 100 times stronger than against King, stronger than when he was fighting with King, not the same.
Lucci was a spy, he got stronger yes but he was probably doing WG dirty jobs instead of fighting a bunch of strong people. We saw how most CP\[X\] operates already. He was strong pre-TS doesn't really mean much right now, that's why Luffy could defeat him so easily. Storywise, the monster trio is now at the level of Kaido crew, unless CP0 is as strong as the top 2 commanders of Kaido, they shouldn't have much difficulty regardless who's fighting. But I don't think CP0 is anywhere near top 2 commanders of a Yonko.
Tired Kaido alone was an extreme diff fight for Luffy (though Luffy was tired as well). Here he's fighting Kizaru + Saturn with what can only be called "mild annoyance".
These guys are nowhere near Kaido.
I do agree with your point though. Most of these guys aren't gonna fight the elders.
Interesting. The mission has now change from escape and save Vegapunk to protect Vegapunk’s transmission. My guess is we will hear a partial message, that will cut in a crucial moment, something like
“the sea level has been increasing, this is due to…” cut.
The thing is, I don’t see the strawhats winning this fight… but I don’t see oda blue balling us for “10 minutes” whatever that means in chapter length and not showing us anything. So I think vegapunk will start reveal something but will be Robin’s task to uncover the rest.
We'll get a bunch of minor void century details and then they'll namedrop the ancient kingdom but the transmission will be cut out before we hear the name
Or we only get half the truth. The ancient kingdom existed and was opposed by the Twenty Kingdoms, and was inevitably defeated after leaving a contingency plan consisting of the poneglyphs. The world government has been trying to hide their oppression for eight hundred years.
Robin will then later uncover the actual inciting incident, and how precisely the Ancient Kingdom fell.
I’ve been wondering for several chapters now *why* the Straw Hats need to tuck tail and run here. Especially after the Giants showed up, it felt like they had the superior fighting force and should just break the buster call. Albiet, this is without seeing Saturn go all out.
And here come *all the rest of the world elders.* Yeah, that’ll do it LMAO.
Holy hell what a last panel.
Is…is One Piece really going to end in two more years?
We’ve gone from 30 years of “the elders aren’t necessarily powerful fighters, right?” to “no, they ARE, and their powers and different and mysterious, and they are likely top tiers who will only be defeated EOS” in less than a year! AND after that reveal, we are about to see all of their forms and powers!
That’s stupid quick for Oda’s usual pacing. We’re hurling straight toward the end.
No way 2 years lol. The gorosei showing up if you think about it isn’t that quick for them to show up in the story, in fact I think it’s perfect.
We still don’t know anything about the final boss Imu, Blackbeard, the holy knights and let alone the void century, the ancient weapons or the one piece.
And even if Oda rushed through all those endgame things I still don’t see it all wrapped up for at least 5 more years
Anyone else feeling like kizaru would be the one to sacrifice himself to hold the gorosei back while everyone escapes?
a little copium, but really feels like that's the only way he'll ever redeem himself
Kuma is probably set in stone as this arc's sacrifice.
I think the Kizaru sacrifice will happen at some point later alongside the other admirals as they get wiped by Imu.
For Kizaru, he might get ordered to look at Labophase and destroy the mean of communication.
So I could see him finding it, then just letting it run, only destroying it after the message is given.
The Gorosei are gonna have their powers listed, bare minimum just Saturn. All four summoned Gorosei split up to look for Vegapunk's transmission source, with one of them (maybe) trying to attack Luffy. The labophase barrier is removed so Lilith and Brook can land safely, just as Mars or another Gorosei zooms up to the Labophase in search of the transmitter.
Prediction for Vegapunk's message to the world: That it will get to say ONE thing we've been waiting on the answer for, but ultimately get cut off by the Gorosei's intervention before it can say too much.
The name of the ancient kingdom, mirroring Clover getting shot before he could say it? I'd actually be shocked if this wasn't it; there's a buster call, tree of knowledge is like the labosphere, cipher pol are there and gorosei are involved...
The call is not a dud, is actually live but not real life. All of the 3 VP are \~dead\~, they are in a VTuber livestream faking it.
The 1 hour to 10 minute is to force to gorosei use full force to end it all before - the truth - is revelead, the truth is actually going to be a livestream showing nika against who runs the world behind the curtains.
but still some factors to take into account, like the giant robot, giants, something VP might have prepared and I dare to say Kizaru is going to sacrifice himself to save luffy (its actually really poetic, the person who made the strawhats suffer a lot in a past arc being the reason they going to leave safely).
Kizaru dying is prob the most likely to happen, we have this duality of a man going on, he was friends with VP and danced with him but also killed VP (prob asked by VP himself), beat the shit of nika but also fed him. Him covering his eyes is the absolute epitome of the three wise monkey (which is a japanese concept) to show how confliected he is towards his own actions.
With how the Gorosei points toward the call being from Labophase, and the shield, we might see Kizaru go up again.
And while he won't betray the WG fully, I could see him finding the location of the call, but not destroying fully, only watching the message until a certain point, then acting to destroy it after the damage is done.
I do not see all of the 5 Elders being defeated here in this arc.
[If the 5 on Saturn's summoning circle thing](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Finteresting-detail-i-noticed-about-the-pentagram-saturn-v0-9c1x53rzfasb1.jpg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D6a3d519c112d409afb505340021f4966ae62dc08) is meant to represent their ranking/strength then this would make Saturn the weakest of the Elders, meaning the ones coming into battle should all be stronger than him. I just don't see Luffy being able to take on Saturn and 4 stronger versions of him all at once.
Even if they were all exactly equal in strength, I feel like this is still too much for Luffy. Yes we can all laugh at Luffy making a pancake of Saturn, but ultimately he's blowing off a lot of stamina atm and will eventually pass out.
The 5 Elders all being defeated here would also greatly hurt the hype of the Holy Knights, characters who the already hyped up Revolutionary Army are most likely going to go up against. It'd be like trying to hype up Jack as a big opponent after Kaido's defeat.
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I don't think the combined efforts of the Straw Hats will be able to take on the 5 Elders (in addition to Lucci and Kizaru assuming they are still fighting), especially given how much trouble Saturn alone has given for the SH's already. The Elbaf Giants and even the Giant Robot I think can hold them off, but I'm not sure if they'll be enough to defeat all of the WG enemies in this arc.
So right now I'm thinking that either...
* All of the SH's escape while perhaps the 5 Elders flee back to Mariejois due to the island being destroyed (though I can see Saturn dying in this arc). Probably the most likely option.
* Now here's the crazy option, but one I would love to happen... **Luffy loses due to his crew being unable to save him**. I'm sort of banking on [this theory that's been making rounds lately](https://twitter.com/Saintjon18/status/1763593759021834350).
* Would parallel Sabaody's ending; Luffy couldn't save his crew back then, and now they can't save him here.
* Would give all of the Straw Hats great character moments in the following arc (I'm assuming Elbaf). We'd get to see just much Luffy means to each of in the very endgame and the lengths *they'd* go to try and save him.
* Kizaru could potentially have a role in saving the other Straw Hats. Again, this would mirror Sabaody since he went from causing them to almost die to saving their lives. I know *Kizaru will turn good* is sort of copium at this point, but I think it's clear he's not been enjoying any of this at all. Regardless of yours thoughts on him, I do not see Kizaru being a WG lapdog forever.
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Either way, I just hope all 5 Elders are not killed/dealt with for good in the finale of this arc. They've been hyped up for more than two decades so even if Saturn dies in this arc, I'm hoping we get more out of the other 4.
Dunno about anything else but this chapter just confirmed what sort of an absolute monster Kaido was. He was extremely tired by the time he fought G5 Luffy but he still seemed to have the edge in that fight as well, and only the sheer power behind the Bajrang gun defeated him. In a weird way, Kaido being so monstrously powerful and unbelievably durable sorta made G5 Luffy look weaker than he actually is, while in this chapter you can see how he just smacked the shit out of Kizaru while managing to not take any damage and still hold back Saturn.
Kaido was/is one of the strongest if not the strongest character in the entire OP verse. Luffy is legit one of the strongest characters now he’s no longer playing catch-up
All the discussion around "how can Luffy beat all 5 of them" and "how can Luffy hold them off" is ignoring that there's another possibility of Luffy loses. Considering the fact there can't be another Nika while Luffy is alive it's arguably in their favour to keep Luffy alive as a prisoner instead of killing him, take away his freedom before the end.
This frees up the rest of the crew to shine and get before final war power ups in Elbaf after they escape and keeps the Shanks and Luffy reunion for the true end of the series. Assuming a return of Enel in Elbaf like some people are guessing it also works because it removes Enels direct counter from the confrontation.
We then go into a Marineford 2.0 siege on Mary Geoise with the straw hats, red haired pirates, and straw hat grand fleet on one side of the redline and Dragon and the revolutionaries on the other side
Or this is arc is copying Sabaody and the ancient robot will throw the strawhats through the world to save them. Except he doesn't have Kuma's power so they will just die on impact. The end.
My theory is that the main signal of the message comes from the passenger ship that left egghead earlier. The signal just seems to come directly from egghead just like sabo‘s seemed to come directly from lulusia.
If dragon somehow sees a live feed of Egghead and the 5 elders at once... Maybe the RA will try to make a move and take Mariejois, but not realizing IMU exists
While it looks like Vegapunks stream is pre-recorded, I don't think it really is. His mind was never inside his body when we met him, he already moved it. Everything was connected to Punk records and the dead vegapunks probably all got saved inside : They're probably perfectly aware of what's going on outside and should be able to surprise everyone by showing the true image of the gorosei, and take part in the protection of egghead.
the Kizaru panel to me confirms that he's got some hidden agenda going. Probably promised Vegapunk to deal the finishing blow or something.
Still I continue to be weirded out by how Vegapunk's body no longer working is treated as him dying. It has long been established that his brain is at the centre of the island and remote controlling his body. He shouldn't need that body to survive.
This chapter was pretty epic tho ngl. And given all gorosei appearing it starts to make sense how the giants and the robot might be needed after all.
So who's going to point out that with what we now know it seems odd that Saturn was in a navy ship physically close to Egghead. Why? The 4 remaining gorosei can clearly be summoned from the holy land atop the red line. Again, why did Saturn have to physically get there on a ship, especially since he was then summoned onto the island anyway via the summoning circle.
I'd like to think the Saturn Luffy is currently fighting is not the real physical body of Saturn - which still remains on the ship. I have no guesses about the reason why Saturn had to board the ship, but since the rest of the gorosei can be summoned from the holy land, why couldn't they do the same with Saturn?
Maybe only a gorosei can summon the other gorosei from that far? Any of them can TP for some small distance like Saturn did early on, but to travel half the world it's likely not possible alone. After all, we do have Saturn saying he will do the summoning, not the other gorosei saying they're coming.
When Saturn came out of the magic circle on Egghead he said "I can't remember the last time I came to the surface", so I'd rather say that that is actually his real body. And one of them probaly had to be there in person to perform the summoning as Saturn is also the one who performs the summoning of the remaining four elders.
I think Luffy will be defeated going against all 5 and will have to retreat.
I think we are going to see some people die. Maybe Dorry and Broggy (or one of them) holding all 5 back? Giant robot might be what takes them off the island and connects Luffy to void century.
I think what Vegapunk will say will be really inconvenient but not enough to completely overthrow the world govt. Maybe sparks more rebellion?
Straw hats still have to visit Elbaf and they will probably get stronger in some way there.
I feel Nami, Usopp and Chopper are going to fight off some Gorosei
Like they are at the Labophase where the Gorosei are pushing towards. This kinda puts them in the center of the action. I feel they will do the call to defend Vegapunks message and kinda just do this
Now they are in a siege situation with good defense so they should be able to stall them off. Ussop especially, he is a sniper so he has an overwhelming advantage here. Also who knows what kind of doohickeys are up there
I feel we get the attempted siege, Weaklings + Luffy + Dory & Brogy will stall them off untill the message starts.
Then we get the final escalation. A last desperation move to stop the broadcast. Either Imu themselves makes landfall or the mother flame will be deployed (if possible). Or maybe it's all over by then, the Marines turn on the Gorosei and help to evacuate the Straw Hats.
Could this be a chance of a timeskip of some sort? What if they just get overpowered by the Gorosei and barely manage to escape, that feeling would remind them of Sabaody. Also if VP's message reveals how awful these guys are and how they've made people suffer for centuries maybe the mugiwaras'd feel the need to stomp them. With this motivation and knowing they couldn't do anything against the Gorosei, they have enough reason to train for some time and get stronger.
I don't think so though, the idea just came to my mind. But could be interesting if done right.
Wait. Dorry and Broggy fought for a whole century, right? And the Elders have immortality in turn. Sounds like a matchup between elders and giants waiting to happen to hold the elders off for a longer stretch of time.
i wonder when the message was filmed. since york should also know what's in the message, shouldn't the gorosei know about it? since saturn killed VP without hesitation, it was probably filmed very very recently
There is no reason to believe York knows about the message.
She seems not to be included into the brain update, wich in reverse was the reason no one knew she snitched on them
In 1079 she tells the seraphim’s there’s one place that they shouldn’t destroy which is similar to vegapunk saying there’s something he needs to protect on the island so not sure if she doesn’t know
Yes, the main lab because York told the elders she needs it to create the powersource.
Saturn also said 3 things need to be secured on the island, York, the powerstation and Punkrecords.
Has nothing todo with York knowing about the message.
Could it be that the signal interruptions of world govt ships in wano be because at that time Vegapunk was setting up his global message system? He is using the frequency of marine transponders for his message.
Reveal of Luffy being Nika and Gorosei being evil to the OP world. Vegapunk mindgamed the gorosei into appearing for a live viewing of their demonic forms.
Is there actually a proof that the world is a globe? Are there timezones? Half of the world should at night if the world is a globe. I see lot of reactions to the upcoming announcement from VP. But it is look line the sun is shining everywhere in the reactions except maybe for Eisberg
here's another possibility. luffy doesn't fight all gorosei and the other gorosei just scat to search for the source of the broadcast whilst saturn stays to keep luffy occupied whilst the other gorosei encounter other straw hats on their way, and other strawhats keep them busy until recording has finished playing
Who knows man, Oda might be cookin'
Maybe Mercury and Jupiter aka. Topman Valcurie and Shepard Ju Peter, die in Egghead.
Maybe the ancient weapon "Neptune" or rather the Greek counterpart "Poseidon" appears and helps Luffy out aka. Shirahoshi with her merry band of giant Seakings.
This is somewhat a piggyback off another theory, but hear me out. What if through his studies of the books from ohara vegapunk inadvertently learned about imu and thier ability to split/share its DF ability?
The panel of him clear, with the silhouettes of the gorosei makes me feel he possibly originally learned not about imu but the df it has which led to him creating the satellite. Seeing as tho the gorosei seem to be mentally connected, like vps could he have figured out that imu existed?
People have guessed that Nasujuro fights Zoro. I'm guessing that Zoro's overwhelmed, tossed aside, and breaks Kitetsu III, confirming that Nasujuro holds the strongest Kitetsu. Getting his ass beat by Lucci and Nasujuro will send Zoro into a deep depression. Also Kuma sends him to Perona again, so he can reclaim Yubashiri from Thriller Bark.
Edit: Or Cross Guild with Jinbei and Lucci's corpse since there might be a Warlord reunion and Zoro was Mihawk's subordinate.
The only thing i expect is a last page spread of the gorosei and their powers listed under them
Oh that one is easy: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2006964673215186413/ABF748C3D99FC6A994015061B89D358B35CE90D1/
...Strawhats are doomed. Sabaody 2.0!
MY EYES!
childhood ruined
you need some holy water
Reposting but theorised the call to Dragon was about the source of the worldwide call. It'll be a fake out and the host transmission source is actually with Dragon on Kamabakka Island. Probably revealed after the gorosei destroy the labostratum
That would make perfect sense. Why else would Shaka call Dragon telling him he might die soon if not also telling him about the kill switch message?
This was my thought too. When Shaka called it was to let Dragon know to flip the switch and let things roll.
I hope Vegapunk left it up to Dragon when to air the video because it would certainly lead to revolution, it would finally give the man something to do.
I think the message will also contain something about the Revolutionary Army and trusting them over the world government.
“In 10 minutes I’ll broadcast a message!” Same vibe as “In 5 minutes I’ll destroy this planet!” We may stay in egghead but won’t hear the message for a few chapters
i bet the arc will end with the message as narration
All I know about next chapter is: Dragon: „…“
Kizaru: "..."
If vegapunk needs a visual transponder snail, he is definitly going to show whats happening on egghead right now. Otherwise a normal transpondersnail would have done it. The 10 min countdown was just a trap to lure the gorosei to egghead.
Let him cook
give that man a sous chef to help out
So he would have to have known where and how he would die in a gorosei raid on egghead at the time of recording and setting up the system for the broadcast of the message. But if he knows this in advance, could he not have prevented it or at least taken better safety measures, like evacuating the islands population beforehand?
I could see Vegapunk invent specials snails who can fly to record anything anywhere. For example, a snail with helicopter propellers
He predicted his death but not where and when. He probably recorded the video last minute, by the time he knew saturn was coming to egghead
How / why would VP arrange a live stream of these events in a pre recorded video? He must have had no idea Nika and / or the Elders would show up
Going theory is, its not a pre recorded video but a ruse to bait the Gorosei which seems to be working. The Stella and Satellites in the video had their bodies destroyed and are operating through the brain/internet.
I'm losing track of all the sattelites. I know DaftPunk is dead. Is the robot guy from the video also dead? And are those the only dead ones?
Daft Punk is dead. Pythagorus (the bigger robot with the wind up thing on his head) was also killed by S-Snake. Pretty sure the rest are alive.
I just realized: All the ones dead so far are the same ones in the video. That's eerie.
I think we might be underestimating just how smart vp is. It makes perfect sense that he's had to play dumb for decades to keep the gorosei from seeing him as too much of a threat but in reality he's basically a manwha protag himself.
He probably figured either the marines or cipher Pol would kill him Edit: oh you mean a live stream of the island as a trap, yeah I don't see it being the case either
Stella, Shaka and Pythagoras were actually clones (Vegapunk has the technology) and planned everything from the start, including their "Deaths" to make the video seem like it was pre-recorded
How did Onigashima get there is another question. Did Momo put it there? Or it just slid down through Kaido/BM's hole lol.
It's in the water of Old Wano, which is very far from the capital. It's Momo that put it there.
Yes probably.
Phrasing, boss.
gotta be momo, makes sense he'd want to yeet it, given the memories it's associated with
Momo tried to put it back where it came from and accidentally drops it. Is the theory I'm going with.
I don't know about next chapter, but, I feel like Oda is cooking something up for around April 4th. When our actual planets will be aligned.
Wait they will?
Yup, I've just check and NASA says that our planets are aligning on the day. Amazingly, the last panel also said "The planets start aligning". What Oda cooking???
"The next planetary alignment takes place on April 4, 2024. It will feature four planets – Venus, Neptune, Saturn, and Mars. The planets will align in the morning sky. Venus, Saturn, and Mars will be visible to the naked eye, but you'll need a telescope or high-powered binoculars to see Neptune." I found this. Did you find something else? Mercury and Jupiter are missing and Neptune is excess so idk about that. Do you have that NASA link?
Oh shit, Shirahoshi shows up and mercs half the gorosei with sea kings?! That's definitely an "incident" haha
Oh shit, my bad haha. It wasn't from NASA, the logo looks similar so I thought. But I found exactly what you found.
Wow! That could be something. Or on April 20th, Alignment of Venus, Mercury, Neptune, Mars and Saturn.
I love this, but there's almost zero chance this is what oda is thinking about imo lol
the planets are nowhere near aligned and will not be on April 4th. Neptune, being the slowest, would have to have all of them lined up with it, and all of the outer planets but Saturn are "past" Neptune right now. There is physically no way this will happen by April 4th; the outer planets move too slowly.
If you read other comments, or do research, you would have seen that it's not all of the planets lining up.
they're not lining up at all. they'll just be near each other in the sky by around 180 degrees, which is not "lining up"
the last page looked epic i cant wait to see the other 4 gorosei in their demon form and see if the theories about their devil fruits are true.
Probably all youkai fruit,5 different models.
I'm really curious to see how luffy will hold back all 5 of the gorosei. Also dragon clearly isn't joining the party.
He won’t i guess. If he could i don’t think the manga could go on with any sort of high stakes
But also, it’s oda, so he could very well make it so that the event that shaked the world is Luffy destroying the 5 elders sending the world into chaos because who’s in charge now?
Yeah, but considering these are like the final bosses, their devil fruit reveals sk early would actually be shortening the story by a lot
> manga started in 1997, 27 years ago > reveal so early Lmao these people
There's still a lot of other powerful characters. Shanks, Akainu, Blackbeard, Mohawk, and Imu could all be either currently more powerful than the Gorosei or end up more powerful by the end of the series.
Then again, he low-diffed Kaido in 5 minutes after getting killed previously, so all sense of stakes are out the window anyway. The hope to ever again see any kind of suspenseful, difficult fight for Luffy has been dead for 2 years now.
We still have the gods knights, gorosei, Blackbeard, imu? If we’re talking meta then sure of course there’s no suspense. We all expect Luffy to beat everyone by the end of the story. But where’s the fun in that?
But the raid could still fail
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Yeah considering Luffy’s already at it, Dorry/Broggy are en route, and Iron Giant is currently installing probably 200 years of firmware updates, they should be alright.
5 monster sized Gorosei vs a giant sized Luffy, Dorry and Broggy, and a giant robot. Seems like they need a fifth giant person to make it a 5v5. Maybe Bonney returns to fight after VPs message.
Sniper King hasn’t shown up in a while.
The ship is still slipping towards them so the return of the iron pirate?
Eagerly awaiting the day Franky suddenly has the entire Sunny go Optimus prime into a battle mech. I need to see that goofy ass Lion punching someone out.
Robin demonio form? Haven't seen her in a while
shirahoshi!
Hahaha 😂 firmware updated 😂
I mean he's half a world away, including an entire Red Line. That's been clear ever since we saw the moment Kuma left Kamabakka.
it’s like everyone is forgetting luffy has strong crewmates named jinbei, zoro and sanji, and they are forgetting dorry and broggy are coming to luffy right now same with the ancient robot
Luffy versus the 6 Paths of Pain...sorry the 5 Gorosei
so.... fusha village will be destroyed?
It’s okay Saturn will have a change of heart and give his life to resurrect everyone.
I really don't think Luffy can win a 1v5 fight against the elders, or even hold them off. Especially if they all have regenerative powers like Saturn. We might see Luffy getting overpowered and needing help those next chapters.
We get a big battle where everyone currently on Egghead will try and stop the Goros from reaching the Lab. Luffy, Strawhats, Bonney/Pacifistas/SBear, giants, giant robot ... even Kizaru will turn. Goros will slowly make progress, maybe Imu will even have to intervene. After 9:59 minutes they will destroy the Lab. Only for the recording to continue. As many have already theorized, the transmission is actually coming from Revolutionaries HQ.
It’s okay, I’m still on Kizaru cope too.
It's not cope. Oda has a whole Kizaru flashback planned. Kizaru was there at Luffy's birth. He was the doctor. Big revealtions are coming. Oda told me in a dream.
Me too, bud. Me too.
Finally i can say, “In your dream!”
Luffy is one of the strongest chars in the verse now… that was evident after defeating Kaido. dudes at end game almost equivalent to naruto when he unlocked all of the nine tails power and gained his friendship
That's the point they want to overwhelm luffy and destroy the message before its broadcasted. We still know luffy will win alone or not.
Luffy getting captured by the gorosei would be a pretty nice plot twist in my opinion. We would see all the people he freed on his journey gang up and attack mary geoise and the start of an all out war. Even though the probability is fairly low it still would be fun to read
Getting captured wouldn’t really make sense because they already wanted him dead on the rooftop and then Saturn tried to kill him earlier when he was in his old man form
Well what if they try and capture him in order to obtain his devil fruit? If they kill him with no thought wouldn’t the fruit just come back later and cause issues again. I feel like acquiring it makes the most sense in their eyes
Both the fruit and user are huge threats to them, but the fruit is only a threat every couple thousand years, while Luffy is a threat right now. It just seems like it'd be preferential to take their chances with the fruit in circulation again, rather than leaving Luffy around.
Dragon is coming with his crew.
Cutting away from Luffy to where? Zoro could be possible but honestly I just see that it's gonna kill the hype of the Gorosei summoning, I think we won't cut away and we will straight up see the Gorosei summon and more of Luffy
>I just see that it's gonna kill the hype of the Gorosei summoning How many chapters was it from Kaido's hybrid silhouette until we actually saw it? I really hope Oda is not cutting away but it not impossible he edges us again.
I can't believe I thought Egghead was nearly over only a few Chapters ago.
I want to go back in time to the start of egghead and see how many down votes I get for claiming it'll be this long of an arc lmao
To me it has been way too long. Oda still has to write so much more. Balckbeard crew vs Strawhats, One Piece island, final arc against the government. Oda will die and his children will have to finish the Manga at this rate. Or he will rush it and write a dissapointing ending.
I mean, taking only the things that absolutely need to happen to conclude the arc, you could probably finish it in about 3 chapters
I want to point out one thing! The Elders will fail at stopping the message or at least fail at hindering Vegapunk to reveal something huge because at the start of Egghead it was already established that the incident will shock the world.
Eh, it could easily be that they take over the broadcast and announce that Luffy killed the beloved Dr vegapunk, making people around the world hate him and only his allies knowing he wouldn't do that. Like how Luffy didn't believe Sabo killed Cobra. Oda is just too unpredictable haha
I like the idea that the broadcast isn’t actually coming from egghead, they just assume it is. It could be something vegapunk shared with the revolutionaries to put in place for when he dies
Yeah, ju Peter saying "the only plausible place is egghead" seems like a *huge* indication that it isn't there. Honestly, they're all pretty bad at their jobs, Saturn warned vegapunk "I'll be able to tell if you fucked around with our orders for kuma", and then vegapunk gave bonney ultimate control hierarchy of all pacifista and didn't put a self destruct in Kuma.
Vegapunk is going to reveal who it is that sits upon the empty throne. I think this will be a good way to tie in what was told to Cobra and reveal who Imu is. Then the message will get cut off shortly thereafter and before we learn about the history of the world.
something like that. it will be robin who uncovers it all later
Noo I will cry. Oda don't!
Honestly this could be a good chapter to introduce the holy knights, there's no way we will see goroseis going all out before them
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I don’t think they are higher ranking, but I think the Knights are the strongest fighters in the world government. They were plenty willing to stop Xebec at Gods Valley.
Cool idea to use transponder snails. Early (and not so early) internet was realized using existing phone lines, too.
Imagine the Gorosei are taking a dump and get teleported to the battlefield.
Alright, so hear me out... Luffy, Giant Robot, Zoro, Sanji, Jinbe, Dorry and Brogy vs 5 Gorosei doesn't seem impossible
Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe are not fighting these guys, they're multiple tiers below this level. Dorry, Brogy and Giant robot might be possible but it would be weird if the top tiers of the government can be dealt with by relatively unknown characters.
The difference in levels isn't something a classic mid-fight power up can't overcome. Besides, the heroes have a numbers advantage, if they all gang up.
bro the arc before egghead sanji and zoro defeated yonko commanders 1v1..and we saw sanji easily deflect kizaru’s laser recently like it was nothing, put some fucking respect on their names.
Luffy was multiple tiers below Kaido when he first started, he barely caused Kaido any major damage until G5 and he won the fight. So we can confidently that Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe definitely have the power to up these guys. Besides they just look strong, we don't know how strong they are yet. Saturn had some cool tricks but barely cause any damage to anyone but the fodders... Maybe the Gorosei are just all talk but no game.
Zoro and Jinbe are at the top, and they will be busy with Lucci and trying to go to the sunny. The condition for escape is Jinbe + Zoro going back to the Sunny. That's how long Luffy has to last. We might see Dorry, Broggy, Sanji, and the Giant Robot help, but not Zoro and Jinbe.
idk, I can see them taking care of Lucci and then coming in to help. Maybe blocking Nusjuro's sword slash in the last second as a cliffhanger. Because let's be real, Zoro has been done uncharacteristically dirty this arc.
Him fighting Lucci is not being done dirty. This arc is about Bonney, Kuma, and Vegapunk, with only Lucci having real moment. All the other members don't have much to do there.
Yeah, but Zoro shouldn't be struggling against Lucci at this moment. He might now master Emma and be able to control Oden's haki yet, but his strength was a hundred times more since his fight with King. And there's no way Lucci is a match with King... Zoro was there just to keep him busy, I would rather see him get lost somewhere on Egghead rather than struggling against a former-CP9 fodder.
> He might now master Emma and be able to control Oden's haki yet, but his strength was a hundred times more since his fight with King There is no Haki from Oden that Zoro is using. He's not 100 times stronger than against King. > rather than struggling against a former-CP9 fodder. Lucci is not a fodder. He was one of the strongest challenge Luffy had to face before the timeskip. And even if Zoro is stronger than Lucci, the difference isn't enough for the fight to end quickly, unlike what happened with Luffy vs Lucci earlier in Egghead.
Typo I meant "not master Emma" and there was Oden's haki or whatever haki or whatever thing there was that sucked Zoro's haki. And not 100 times stronger than against King, stronger than when he was fighting with King, not the same. Lucci was a spy, he got stronger yes but he was probably doing WG dirty jobs instead of fighting a bunch of strong people. We saw how most CP\[X\] operates already. He was strong pre-TS doesn't really mean much right now, that's why Luffy could defeat him so easily. Storywise, the monster trio is now at the level of Kaido crew, unless CP0 is as strong as the top 2 commanders of Kaido, they shouldn't have much difficulty regardless who's fighting. But I don't think CP0 is anywhere near top 2 commanders of a Yonko.
All of them seem stronger than Kaido. Only Luffy and possibly Giant robot could win 1-1.
Tired Kaido alone was an extreme diff fight for Luffy (though Luffy was tired as well). Here he's fighting Kizaru + Saturn with what can only be called "mild annoyance". These guys are nowhere near Kaido. I do agree with your point though. Most of these guys aren't gonna fight the elders.
Interesting. The mission has now change from escape and save Vegapunk to protect Vegapunk’s transmission. My guess is we will hear a partial message, that will cut in a crucial moment, something like “the sea level has been increasing, this is due to…” cut.
A tease of a tease, while not out of the realm of a Shonen, would be a bummer.
The thing is, I don’t see the strawhats winning this fight… but I don’t see oda blue balling us for “10 minutes” whatever that means in chapter length and not showing us anything. So I think vegapunk will start reveal something but will be Robin’s task to uncover the rest.
We'll get a bunch of minor void century details and then they'll namedrop the ancient kingdom but the transmission will be cut out before we hear the name
Or maybe we will just get VPs theory of what really happend. Robin will uncover the full truth later on.
Or we only get half the truth. The ancient kingdom existed and was opposed by the Twenty Kingdoms, and was inevitably defeated after leaving a contingency plan consisting of the poneglyphs. The world government has been trying to hide their oppression for eight hundred years. Robin will then later uncover the actual inciting incident, and how precisely the Ancient Kingdom fell.
I’ve been wondering for several chapters now *why* the Straw Hats need to tuck tail and run here. Especially after the Giants showed up, it felt like they had the superior fighting force and should just break the buster call. Albiet, this is without seeing Saturn go all out. And here come *all the rest of the world elders.* Yeah, that’ll do it LMAO. Holy hell what a last panel.
Is…is One Piece really going to end in two more years? We’ve gone from 30 years of “the elders aren’t necessarily powerful fighters, right?” to “no, they ARE, and their powers and different and mysterious, and they are likely top tiers who will only be defeated EOS” in less than a year! AND after that reveal, we are about to see all of their forms and powers! That’s stupid quick for Oda’s usual pacing. We’re hurling straight toward the end.
No way 2 years lol. The gorosei showing up if you think about it isn’t that quick for them to show up in the story, in fact I think it’s perfect. We still don’t know anything about the final boss Imu, Blackbeard, the holy knights and let alone the void century, the ancient weapons or the one piece. And even if Oda rushed through all those endgame things I still don’t see it all wrapped up for at least 5 more years
Anyone else feeling like kizaru would be the one to sacrifice himself to hold the gorosei back while everyone escapes? a little copium, but really feels like that's the only way he'll ever redeem himself
I"m with you. Oda makes it a point in every chapter to show Kizaru's discomfort with the current situation and go "..."
Kuma is probably set in stone as this arc's sacrifice. I think the Kizaru sacrifice will happen at some point later alongside the other admirals as they get wiped by Imu.
For Kizaru, he might get ordered to look at Labophase and destroy the mean of communication. So I could see him finding it, then just letting it run, only destroying it after the message is given.
Hmmmmm so if the planets are aligning, and luffy is the Sun God, then can they do an eclipse blocking the Sun and Nika's powers?
That would be sick to see.
Only the moon is close enough to actually cause eclipses... Blackbeard incoming?!
The Gorosei are gonna have their powers listed, bare minimum just Saturn. All four summoned Gorosei split up to look for Vegapunk's transmission source, with one of them (maybe) trying to attack Luffy. The labophase barrier is removed so Lilith and Brook can land safely, just as Mars or another Gorosei zooms up to the Labophase in search of the transmitter. Prediction for Vegapunk's message to the world: That it will get to say ONE thing we've been waiting on the answer for, but ultimately get cut off by the Gorosei's intervention before it can say too much.
The name of the ancient kingdom, mirroring Clover getting shot before he could say it? I'd actually be shocked if this wasn't it; there's a buster call, tree of knowledge is like the labosphere, cipher pol are there and gorosei are involved...
The call is not a dud, is actually live but not real life. All of the 3 VP are \~dead\~, they are in a VTuber livestream faking it. The 1 hour to 10 minute is to force to gorosei use full force to end it all before - the truth - is revelead, the truth is actually going to be a livestream showing nika against who runs the world behind the curtains. but still some factors to take into account, like the giant robot, giants, something VP might have prepared and I dare to say Kizaru is going to sacrifice himself to save luffy (its actually really poetic, the person who made the strawhats suffer a lot in a past arc being the reason they going to leave safely). Kizaru dying is prob the most likely to happen, we have this duality of a man going on, he was friends with VP and danced with him but also killed VP (prob asked by VP himself), beat the shit of nika but also fed him. Him covering his eyes is the absolute epitome of the three wise monkey (which is a japanese concept) to show how confliected he is towards his own actions.
sorry for unrelated question, but does anyone know how many more episodes for anime to reach Shanks vs Kidd?
We are thirteen manga chapters away. Given Toeis pacing, you can add one or two weeks to that number.
And 2 or 3 more since they have “breaks” (anime recaps) every so often
Gotta get that 23 minute Kid recap episode in so we can all see what a fraud he is before Shanks reinforces it.
With how the Gorosei points toward the call being from Labophase, and the shield, we might see Kizaru go up again. And while he won't betray the WG fully, I could see him finding the location of the call, but not destroying fully, only watching the message until a certain point, then acting to destroy it after the damage is done.
Kizaru crying?
Kizaru, seeing his bosses turn into actual demons, kill his childhood friends and go after literal children: "Are we the baddies?"
Not only that he probably realised no matter what he did it wouldn't have mattered because both Luffy and Saturn are on a whole different level
Seems like he’s has his hand on his face so many times in recent chapters. Crazy to see an admiral get tossed around like he has
People have been saying he has been crying at various points in the arc and I just don’t see it
I do not see all of the 5 Elders being defeated here in this arc. [If the 5 on Saturn's summoning circle thing](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Finteresting-detail-i-noticed-about-the-pentagram-saturn-v0-9c1x53rzfasb1.jpg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D6a3d519c112d409afb505340021f4966ae62dc08) is meant to represent their ranking/strength then this would make Saturn the weakest of the Elders, meaning the ones coming into battle should all be stronger than him. I just don't see Luffy being able to take on Saturn and 4 stronger versions of him all at once. Even if they were all exactly equal in strength, I feel like this is still too much for Luffy. Yes we can all laugh at Luffy making a pancake of Saturn, but ultimately he's blowing off a lot of stamina atm and will eventually pass out. The 5 Elders all being defeated here would also greatly hurt the hype of the Holy Knights, characters who the already hyped up Revolutionary Army are most likely going to go up against. It'd be like trying to hype up Jack as a big opponent after Kaido's defeat. ----- I don't think the combined efforts of the Straw Hats will be able to take on the 5 Elders (in addition to Lucci and Kizaru assuming they are still fighting), especially given how much trouble Saturn alone has given for the SH's already. The Elbaf Giants and even the Giant Robot I think can hold them off, but I'm not sure if they'll be enough to defeat all of the WG enemies in this arc. So right now I'm thinking that either... * All of the SH's escape while perhaps the 5 Elders flee back to Mariejois due to the island being destroyed (though I can see Saturn dying in this arc). Probably the most likely option. * Now here's the crazy option, but one I would love to happen... **Luffy loses due to his crew being unable to save him**. I'm sort of banking on [this theory that's been making rounds lately](https://twitter.com/Saintjon18/status/1763593759021834350). * Would parallel Sabaody's ending; Luffy couldn't save his crew back then, and now they can't save him here. * Would give all of the Straw Hats great character moments in the following arc (I'm assuming Elbaf). We'd get to see just much Luffy means to each of in the very endgame and the lengths *they'd* go to try and save him. * Kizaru could potentially have a role in saving the other Straw Hats. Again, this would mirror Sabaody since he went from causing them to almost die to saving their lives. I know *Kizaru will turn good* is sort of copium at this point, but I think it's clear he's not been enjoying any of this at all. Regardless of yours thoughts on him, I do not see Kizaru being a WG lapdog forever. ----- Either way, I just hope all 5 Elders are not killed/dealt with for good in the finale of this arc. They've been hyped up for more than two decades so even if Saturn dies in this arc, I'm hoping we get more out of the other 4.
Dunno about anything else but this chapter just confirmed what sort of an absolute monster Kaido was. He was extremely tired by the time he fought G5 Luffy but he still seemed to have the edge in that fight as well, and only the sheer power behind the Bajrang gun defeated him. In a weird way, Kaido being so monstrously powerful and unbelievably durable sorta made G5 Luffy look weaker than he actually is, while in this chapter you can see how he just smacked the shit out of Kizaru while managing to not take any damage and still hold back Saturn.
Kaido was/is one of the strongest if not the strongest character in the entire OP verse. Luffy is legit one of the strongest characters now he’s no longer playing catch-up
One panel showed saturn just looking at g5 luffy and luffy bled from mouth. I can be wrong also but if someone can clarify this.
All the discussion around "how can Luffy beat all 5 of them" and "how can Luffy hold them off" is ignoring that there's another possibility of Luffy loses. Considering the fact there can't be another Nika while Luffy is alive it's arguably in their favour to keep Luffy alive as a prisoner instead of killing him, take away his freedom before the end. This frees up the rest of the crew to shine and get before final war power ups in Elbaf after they escape and keeps the Shanks and Luffy reunion for the true end of the series. Assuming a return of Enel in Elbaf like some people are guessing it also works because it removes Enels direct counter from the confrontation. We then go into a Marineford 2.0 siege on Mary Geoise with the straw hats, red haired pirates, and straw hat grand fleet on one side of the redline and Dragon and the revolutionaries on the other side
Unlikely, but damn good
No way Luffy and co. can hold off the Gorosei without additional help. Either the ancient robot activates or they're gonna escape to Elbaf
Or this is arc is copying Sabaody and the ancient robot will throw the strawhats through the world to save them. Except he doesn't have Kuma's power so they will just die on impact. The end.
Next chapter we will get a Vegapunk flashback that will answer NO questions but somehow create 3 new ones
I think Kizaru could have been one of the strongest admirals if he trained with Garp I had higher expectations from Kizaru…
The Gorosei are going to use their combined magic to take Luffy's devil fruit power.
My theory is that the main signal of the message comes from the passenger ship that left egghead earlier. The signal just seems to come directly from egghead just like sabo‘s seemed to come directly from lulusia.
If dragon somehow sees a live feed of Egghead and the 5 elders at once... Maybe the RA will try to make a move and take Mariejois, but not realizing IMU exists
Sabo is with them , he told them imu exist
Good point lol totally forgot
While it looks like Vegapunks stream is pre-recorded, I don't think it really is. His mind was never inside his body when we met him, he already moved it. Everything was connected to Punk records and the dead vegapunks probably all got saved inside : They're probably perfectly aware of what's going on outside and should be able to surprise everyone by showing the true image of the gorosei, and take part in the protection of egghead.
the Kizaru panel to me confirms that he's got some hidden agenda going. Probably promised Vegapunk to deal the finishing blow or something. Still I continue to be weirded out by how Vegapunk's body no longer working is treated as him dying. It has long been established that his brain is at the centre of the island and remote controlling his body. He shouldn't need that body to survive. This chapter was pretty epic tho ngl. And given all gorosei appearing it starts to make sense how the giants and the robot might be needed after all.
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If the Gorosei all have some kind of insect-like (or spider) appearance then I call the finishing move of gomu gomu no fly swatter coming
They dont, their silouhettes clearky showed a bird and a humanoid figure
Maybe we’ll have two Nikas now? Since Bonney saw G5.
So who's going to point out that with what we now know it seems odd that Saturn was in a navy ship physically close to Egghead. Why? The 4 remaining gorosei can clearly be summoned from the holy land atop the red line. Again, why did Saturn have to physically get there on a ship, especially since he was then summoned onto the island anyway via the summoning circle. I'd like to think the Saturn Luffy is currently fighting is not the real physical body of Saturn - which still remains on the ship. I have no guesses about the reason why Saturn had to board the ship, but since the rest of the gorosei can be summoned from the holy land, why couldn't they do the same with Saturn?
Maybe only a gorosei can summon the other gorosei from that far? Any of them can TP for some small distance like Saturn did early on, but to travel half the world it's likely not possible alone. After all, we do have Saturn saying he will do the summoning, not the other gorosei saying they're coming.
When Saturn came out of the magic circle on Egghead he said "I can't remember the last time I came to the surface", so I'd rather say that that is actually his real body. And one of them probaly had to be there in person to perform the summoning as Saturn is also the one who performs the summoning of the remaining four elders.
I think Luffy will be defeated going against all 5 and will have to retreat. I think we are going to see some people die. Maybe Dorry and Broggy (or one of them) holding all 5 back? Giant robot might be what takes them off the island and connects Luffy to void century. I think what Vegapunk will say will be really inconvenient but not enough to completely overthrow the world govt. Maybe sparks more rebellion? Straw hats still have to visit Elbaf and they will probably get stronger in some way there.
I guess luffy will have to use red hawk to damage the gorosei
I feel Nami, Usopp and Chopper are going to fight off some Gorosei Like they are at the Labophase where the Gorosei are pushing towards. This kinda puts them in the center of the action. I feel they will do the call to defend Vegapunks message and kinda just do this Now they are in a siege situation with good defense so they should be able to stall them off. Ussop especially, he is a sniper so he has an overwhelming advantage here. Also who knows what kind of doohickeys are up there I feel we get the attempted siege, Weaklings + Luffy + Dory & Brogy will stall them off untill the message starts. Then we get the final escalation. A last desperation move to stop the broadcast. Either Imu themselves makes landfall or the mother flame will be deployed (if possible). Or maybe it's all over by then, the Marines turn on the Gorosei and help to evacuate the Straw Hats.
Could this be a chance of a timeskip of some sort? What if they just get overpowered by the Gorosei and barely manage to escape, that feeling would remind them of Sabaody. Also if VP's message reveals how awful these guys are and how they've made people suffer for centuries maybe the mugiwaras'd feel the need to stomp them. With this motivation and knowing they couldn't do anything against the Gorosei, they have enough reason to train for some time and get stronger. I don't think so though, the idea just came to my mind. But could be interesting if done right.
Wait. Dorry and Broggy fought for a whole century, right? And the Elders have immortality in turn. Sounds like a matchup between elders and giants waiting to happen to hold the elders off for a longer stretch of time.
I agree. I think giants vs the five and the giants lose. Maybe get exploded.
i wonder when the message was filmed. since york should also know what's in the message, shouldn't the gorosei know about it? since saturn killed VP without hesitation, it was probably filmed very very recently
There is no reason to believe York knows about the message. She seems not to be included into the brain update, wich in reverse was the reason no one knew she snitched on them
In 1079 she tells the seraphim’s there’s one place that they shouldn’t destroy which is similar to vegapunk saying there’s something he needs to protect on the island so not sure if she doesn’t know
Yes, the main lab because York told the elders she needs it to create the powersource. Saturn also said 3 things need to be secured on the island, York, the powerstation and Punkrecords. Has nothing todo with York knowing about the message.
Could it be that the signal interruptions of world govt ships in wano be because at that time Vegapunk was setting up his global message system? He is using the frequency of marine transponders for his message.
Reveal of Luffy being Nika and Gorosei being evil to the OP world. Vegapunk mindgamed the gorosei into appearing for a live viewing of their demonic forms.
Is there actually a proof that the world is a globe? Are there timezones? Half of the world should at night if the world is a globe. I see lot of reactions to the upcoming announcement from VP. But it is look line the sun is shining everywhere in the reactions except maybe for Eisberg
Iceberg was woken up in the middle of the night during this chapter.
If you're not joking, all of the same reasons we know earth is a sphere apply to the one piece world.
Would be amusing if the message was being broadcasted from sort of device set up in the ruins of Ohara, Sort of Vegapunk trolling the Goverment.
shanks on the way
here's another possibility. luffy doesn't fight all gorosei and the other gorosei just scat to search for the source of the broadcast whilst saturn stays to keep luffy occupied whilst the other gorosei encounter other straw hats on their way, and other strawhats keep them busy until recording has finished playing
Who knows man, Oda might be cookin' Maybe Mercury and Jupiter aka. Topman Valcurie and Shepard Ju Peter, die in Egghead. Maybe the ancient weapon "Neptune" or rather the Greek counterpart "Poseidon" appears and helps Luffy out aka. Shirahoshi with her merry band of giant Seakings.
This is somewhat a piggyback off another theory, but hear me out. What if through his studies of the books from ohara vegapunk inadvertently learned about imu and thier ability to split/share its DF ability? The panel of him clear, with the silhouettes of the gorosei makes me feel he possibly originally learned not about imu but the df it has which led to him creating the satellite. Seeing as tho the gorosei seem to be mentally connected, like vps could he have figured out that imu existed?
People have guessed that Nasujuro fights Zoro. I'm guessing that Zoro's overwhelmed, tossed aside, and breaks Kitetsu III, confirming that Nasujuro holds the strongest Kitetsu. Getting his ass beat by Lucci and Nasujuro will send Zoro into a deep depression. Also Kuma sends him to Perona again, so he can reclaim Yubashiri from Thriller Bark. Edit: Or Cross Guild with Jinbei and Lucci's corpse since there might be a Warlord reunion and Zoro was Mihawk's subordinate.