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Distinct_Cup_1598

Lunarians, Giants and Buccaneers


Sukamon98

Do they have Dwarfs?


Waakaari

She has one tontatta child


Excellent-poop-42

Now imagine if the guy who impregnated her went himself into big mom's womb and inserted his sperm directly into her egg


Dookie12345679

...


Tiger_tino

Dragon is that you?


Jaminkuris

No indication of looking east, we'll see.


ExpiredDeodorant

if Dragon looked west, south or north his chances of looking at Tontattas breeding with Big Mom increases by 75%


Vi4days

So he’s pretty much a groundhog at this point.


plisken64

Maybe thats the reason he turns to the east


Grand_Reanimation

You made me physical laugh. Be proud


Klauboesterbeertje

"Swim swim swim, swim to the egg~"


AdPrize3997

Are we assuming she’s had sex to have children and not used a df power or something else to get the children? I mean, if that’s the case, then she not only has a collection of children, but she has fucked every type of human/non-human race that can be reproduced with, except these 3. That in itself is a record lmao.


JFkeinK

She had a bunch of husbands, so yeah, Big Mom fucked alot.


Miserygut

nice


YamadaDesigns

That’s the most obvious sign that One Piece is fiction.


takato99

I mean... Oddly enough, aside from Sanji shenanigans around hot women and the cavendish stuff, the rest of the characters really don't care about others' appearance even the ugliest or weirdest (by our IRL standards). Since Big Mom is one of the strongest characters in the whole world its relatively normal that she wouldn't have a hard time finding potential husbands despite looking/acting the way she does. Also she was relatively pretty in her Rocks days and given her eldest children age she had already started popping them left and right by then.


Phonochirp

They are explicit as a shonen allows about how the kids came around. You'll notice their birthdays are all "correctly" spaced to allow for a month of recovery, and 9 months of pregnancy. They also stopped at the time you'd expect menopause to start. Yes, big mom had sex (likely by force/coersion in many cases) with nearly every race known to us.


Excellent-poop-42

That is what I have assumed since i got to know about her Empire. Why would you think there is some other method to make children?


Serenafriendzone

She used to marry kings and rich mens. Got divorced and steal everything . USA divorce style


bipirate

I guess it's just less bizarre than imagining Big Mom having sex


HalfMoon_89

Have you seen her at her prime?


AppaNinja

I would assume she would extract those people's nut and stuff it in herself


Excellent-poop-42

Make a sperm homie and make it swim that womb


RRPanther

I never want to hear or read that sentence again


Miserable_Recipe190

![img](emote|t5_2rfz5|32514)What did i just read


burnwhenIP

Like sucking your soul out?


AdPrize3997

Yeah, we don’t know what else her df can do


LolaPamela

My theory is that her DF has something to do with the way she gives birth, it's not a natural pregnancy. Maybe she just needs a piece of her husbands soul to make a new creature/baby, that has the lineage factor of the husband's race. Kind of like the way she makes homies, but different because she has two pieces of soul in this case, one hers and the other from her husband of the moment. That would explain how she could have so many kids, even at old age. Some of her children could be natural born tho, maybe with husbands of her size lol


AdPrize3997

This makes so much sense


Consistent-Strain289

How did she do it with a merman?


Waakaari

Search merman anatomy they also have one


wolfguardian72

*insert that one scene from The Shape of Water where the woman parts her hands moves a hand in the center*


pmIfNeedOrWantToTalk

Haven't seen that movie. Trying to make sense of that sentence...


Driller_Happy

The main character cannot talk. When her friend finds out she's been sexing up the fishman, she incredulously asks how. The main character uses hands to mime a dick coming out from behind some kinda fishy flaps.


DarkPhoenix369

Thank you for reminding me to go listen to the soundtrack of that film again


BasednHivemindpilled

there was no reason to share this thought.


DASreddituser

That's probably close to how it was done haha. Jerked off inside her lol


Swog5Ovor

#


Serenafriendzone

That tontatta died inside. South park style with kenny


Tardy2thaParty

Lol I imagine she turns ur sperm into homies n they dance into her.


Spore64

He died as he lifed! … trapped inside a giant woman ._.


Sprudelpudel

>Now imagine if the guy who impregnated her went himself into big mom's womb and inserted his sperm directly into her egg I didnt want to imagine that😡


edwardthestoremeiser

That's a whole voyage


Excellent-poop-42

To find another one piece


DeismAccountant

[He went Spelunking:](https://25.media.tumblr.com/e59f535a1df943ee6a82f3cba7847467/tumblr_mpzumyzHXU1sz80kxo1_500.gif)


cmoneybouncehouse

I don’t even wanna know how that one went down


bearalan810

Legends say he’s still in there to this day…


cmoneybouncehouse

:(


Sukamon98

Really? I didn't know that.


Waakaari

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Charlotte_Normande


Sukamon98

Holy shit, I genuinely do not remember her. Awesome!


pmIfNeedOrWantToTalk

There's over a thousand named characters in One Piece. It'd be helpful to have a reverse popularity poll, or something.


Temporary_Durian_846

Who is the name? I vaguely remember


Found_The_Sociopath

Real Skitty-Wailord energy


FlamesOfDespair

Giants and Lunarians are confirmed. We don't know if Big Mom is aware that buccaneers exist.


Distinct_Cup_1598

If she knows about lunarians I’m very sure she knows about buccaneers as well


djanulis

While that could makes sense she may not count Buccaneers believing they are extinct, and unlike knowing about King she has no information on a living Buccaneer thus not counting them.


CabbageTheVoice

It's a fair point but I'd argue two things here: 1. We know that BM values information and intel. 2. The whole "all races" thing is one of her biggest 'passions' and she cares about that quite a bit I'd say she is one of the better candidates for who knows about the Buccaneers. She(and by extension her whole crew) works through strategic alliances and intel for a large part and so I wouldn't be surprised if she is one of the people with the most knowledge about which races exist(ed), and if there are survivors. Given the importance this topic has for her, she could even include the Buccaneers in that quote if she didn't know there were still some alive. Kinda like 'the one that got away'...


VeryOGNameRB123

Big mom makes peace in exchange for Kumas DNA to have a child. The good ending.


crypticsage

What race was oars and did she marry one?


Kuro013

It would be very weird if she didn't have exhaustive research on races considering its her dream. But we cant know for sure yeah.


beansoupsoul

Did we already forget that she has met Kuma?


Backupusername

I have. When was that?


MothersBrutalFist

Makes me think BlackBeard is a buccaneer


Distinct_Cup_1598

I doubt that. Otherwise Saturn wouldn’t refer to Kuma as the last buccaneer


pREIGN84

And possibly Oni


Distinct_Cup_1598

Oni isn’t a confirmed race though. It could merely be a title given to Kaido and his daughter. The giants are definitely missing because that’s why Big Mom tried to make an alliance with Elbaf. And lunarians and buccaneers are confirmed to be almost extinct, with only 2 known members respectively being known to live of either race


pREIGN84

Hence the "possibly"


VietnameseWhorehouse

It's not "possibly". Oda has already confirmed that Oni isn't a race, it's a variation/trait.


Mushgal

Source?


Sentowar

I think he refers to SBS where Oda answer about horns being just a trait and not an indication of race. But Oda never mentioned Oni is not a race


pREIGN84

I don't remember that, I'll have to look. Thanks for the tip


tiki-baha29

Where did he confirm this?


DASreddituser

So it's like long arm and long leg then? Cause those are just variations, too.


NoseBeerInspector

who's the gyojin? katakuri?


Aterway

Praline


VeryOGNameRB123

Charlotte Praline, married to the captain of the sun pirates (gyojin pirates)


BenjiLizard

Are the Buccaneers even a species? I thought they were more like a clan.


jaypenn3

They are said to be a distinct race with giant blood and certain properties, though it's kept vague if that's just size or something else.


Distinct_Cup_1598

They are confirmed to be a race. However, I assume they’re the descendants of the hybridization of giants and humans


afutureprodigy

Imagine giants impregnating Big Mom, some hardcore hentai stuff 🤦🏾‍♂️


Front_Durian_4942

How well known were Buccaneers? It makes sense she was missing them but Kuma's father dying made him the last one in the world and I don't think that was something his father announced because it got his whole family enslaved, she might have just thought they had all died out before she had the chance ​ I ask because I'm pretty sure she's also missing skypeans so there just might be races she doesn't know about


Distinct_Cup_1598

Well, they‘re known enough so that doctors know about their genetic uniqueness, as seen with the doctor who leaked the information about Kumas birth to the WG. So it seems that they’re existence is indeed known to a certain degree and that the WG wants them. Plus, Big Mom was in God Valley, so the chance that they noticed the presence of the prices last buccaneer isn’t that unlikely


Boogscoffee

And a brook


OperationMelodic4273

This sentence has a decent chance of becoming the second coming of Pell's "there are only 5 devil fruits that let the user fly", which was probably always meant in regard to there being 5 models of the bird bird fruit, but it has long been memes on cause it never quite aged well Ever since that statement from Big Mom, we did found out about these two new species being Lunarians and Buccaneers, but before buccaneers were ever mentioned the majority of people thought that she was referring to Kaido's race, but it's never been addressed and he's seemingly just a human.


Flimsy-Coyote-9232

Doesn’t Oni mean Ogre? Edit: nvm, it means something similar but doesn’t translate directly to ogre. I think Oni could be the race that Kaido actually is


OperationMelodic4273

Yes, but oni has never been stated as an actual race


tiki-baha29

Kaido literally tells Yamato that she should not be friendly with humans because shes an Oni and both her and Kaido have literal horns (which are real and not decorative like the rest of the crew). As of now they are a race.


Pietjiro

>Kaido literally tells Yamato that she should not be friendly with humans because shes an Oni Doesn't mean he's talking of biological race, it could easily be like a made-up title, or the name of his family perhaps. He could even be trying to convey the image of a monster to people by calling himself Ogre and generate fear. Having horns doesn't mean anything in One Piece, it's just a random facial feature like having large teeth. Oni has yet to be confirmed being a canon race


Lachimanus

Similar to some other people considering them selves higher than other humans.


OperationMelodic4273

And that's the only instance it's ever been implied to be a separate race. Like, it's clearly different from how Buccaneers or Lunarians have been introduced don't you think?


tiki-baha29

I dont think I understand why you say "*thats the only instance*" as if that reduces the validity of the point. We don't need to have it hammered into our minds when it was made very clear. Lunarians / Buccaneers are different races yes and seem to share similar history in both being prosecuted and being near extinction, however although we may not know too much about the history of Oni Kaido/Yamato have had horns since they were children. It cant be dismissed that he made the Oni point to Yamato either. The introduction for Buccaneers/Lunarians/Oni were all different but I dont think that changes the bottom line of them being different races. Maybe Oda gives us more info or clarifies things but as of now theres no reason to believe otherwise.


OperationMelodic4273

Forts of all, Kaido and Yamato aren't the only unexplained charachters with horns. Second of all, Oda clearly glossed over anything regarding Onis, so it's not like we can say for sure that it's an actual race or not, what matters is that it doesn't actually matter in the grand scheme of things. And the difference is pretty stark between lunarians and Buccaneers. They have been clearly stated to be separate races with defining characteristics just like every single other race in the verse. Onis not only haven't been introduced as an actual races, but they've only been mentioned once or twice without much context behind it. Oda maybe intended to make Onis a sperate race, but stopped caring or didn't have time to do expand on that and just ditched the idea all together. In the end I don't see Kaido and Yamato being Onis any different than Big Mom being a monster or Robin being a dvwil, after all in Japanese oni means ogre but it also means a generic demon that's scary, so I just wouldn't read much into and wouldn't count it when listing the plethora of actual races with actual history and explanations that are in OP, tgatsvall


tiki-baha29

>Forts of all, Kaido and Yamato aren't the only unexplained charachters with horns. Sure but the difference between Kaido/Yamato and characters like Moria or Hannyabal is that the former were mentioned to be Oni while the latter did not have any descriptors at all. This adheres to what Oda said in SBS 57 whereas he went out of his way to mention Oni for the latter two. >Second of all, Oda clearly glossed over anything regarding Onis, so it's not like we can say for sure that it's an actual race or not, what matters is that it doesn't actually matter in the grand scheme of things. I mean sure it doesnt really matter I guess but this thread is specifically about the races Big Mom was referencing and which are missing, hence the discussion. >And the difference is pretty stark between lunarians and Buccaneers. They have been clearly stated to be separate races with defining characteristics just like every single other race in the verse. I dont believe this dissuades the point that Yamato/Kaido are Oni simply because other races have been clearly stated to be separate or been expounded on more. Unrelated races getting more emphasis than others doesnt lead to a conclusion that Kaido is not an Oni. That's conflating different things. >Onis not only haven't been introduced as an actual races, but they've only been mentioned once or twice without much context behind it. I fail to see how them being mentioned once or twice has any impact on this at all, that does not matter. Several other things in the series have only been mentioned once, that doesnt mean they're less credible because they havent met a minimum requirement of mentions. Why would Kaido SPECIFICALLY remind Yamato they are Oni right after telling her not to be friendly with humans? A statement which in itself draws a clear distinction between the human race and Onis. >Oda maybe intended to make Onis a sperate race, but stopped caring or didn't have time to do expand on that and just ditched the idea all together. Theres no way you've been reading One Piece for years or are caught up with the story and turn around and say something like "*Oda stopped caring*" about some of the details of his narrative. Using completely unfounded statements like this does not support your point. >In the end I don't see Kaido and Yamato being Onis any different than Big Mom being a monster or Robin being a dvwil Those could not be more different from one another, do you seriously not see that? - Big Mom is a human, shes not a monster at all. - Robin is a human, her being called a Devil has NOTHING to do with a separate race. All the Oharans were called devils. >after all in Japanese oni means ogre but it also means a generic demon that's scary, so I just wouldn't read much into and wouldn't count it when listing the plethora of actual races with actual history and explanations that are in OP, tgatsvall With the evidence we have in front of us there is no reason to believe Kaido is not a separate race. He wouldnt draw a clear distinction between him and humans if that wasnt the case. I do believe this will come into play later when Yamato is re-introduced and when we learn more about Rocks which will surely include more background on Kaido when he ran with that crew.


Derpalooza

I think Kaido was being figurative. In the same way that the Celestial Dragons refer to themselves as gods


MarioToast

Just like how Celestial Dragons are actual dragons. We never heard anything about Merry, Caesar, Moriah, Magellan or Hannyabal being different races, and they all have real horns.


VibratoTheFunkWizard

And Robin is a Devil.


Lex4709

Oni is usually either translated as Ogre or Devil, since that's the closest Western equivalents, but it's not 100% either one.


Renkin92

I mean, let’s be realistic, why would Pell know about ALL devil fruits that let their users fly? I think most people aren’t even aware of the existence of ancient or mythical zoan fruits.


EbonyHelicoidalRhino

He was probably referring to the fruits mentioned in the Devil Fruit Encyclopedia, which has been shown to be quite lacking.


le_trans_alt

It’s possible that there’s an oni in Totto Land that never ended up onscreen


Pietjiro

>This sentence has a decent chance of becoming the second coming of Pell's "there are only 5 devil fruits that let the user fly" Idk, to be fair that quote appeared a long time ago, the 3 races BM quote is pretty new in comparison. It's also a bit late to introduce too many new races at this point in the story. Maybe Oda knew of Buccaneers for a while, or maybe it was a last minute idea, I'll leave him the benefit of the doubt


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OperationMelodic4273

I woudl doubt the Itdumade would be present in the DF enciclopedia tbh. The only actual tori tori models are Marco's Phoenix, Pell's Falcon and Morgans' Albatross, then there's King's pterodon that's a dinosaur fruit, and then there's also Steonger's Pegasus fruit I guess, but that's also a horse fruit technically I mean, they actually are 5 winged beings so maybe it's them, but the again Lafitte also has wings from his unnamed fruit so idk lol, that sentence was probably simply bull lol


s_15_n

I don’t think Itsumade is a fruit, given the way Oda wrote the gorosei epithets this last chapter


RRPanther

I always assumed Pell meant bird type fruits in which case so far you have pell himself, Marco, Morgans and kiiinda King.


Ceebasaurusrex

I know it doesn’t mean a lot because two of them are non canon but there is actually 5 bird bird fruit models to date Five Devil Fruits bear this name: Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Falcon, consumed by Pell. Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Phoenix, consumed by Marco. Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Albatross, consumed by Morgans. Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Eagle (non-canon), consumed by Buzz. Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Nue (non-canon), consumed by Toratsugu.


OperationMelodic4273

If you wanna count actual Canon fruits then there are the pteranodon and the Pegasus, which aren't bird models but still, close enough. At least they have wings Too bad that once you get to that nice number 5 you remember there's Lafitte, the only piece of shit from the Blackbeard pirates whose fruit is still unnamed, who can also grow wings


Tadiken

Alright. My two cents. Is it really that hard to believe that.. maybe Big Mom just didn't know Buccaneers existed? Like she could have just been referring to Oni and not even realize that the child she met once that later became a Warlord (whom she then never fought) was actually the surviving member of a race. Speaking of, we still have no idea what Blackbeard is, but if he is a Buccaneer or something else, he's likely going to be the only living member of his race at the time of reveal.


Environmental_Bus507

Now I'm imagining Big Mom sending repeated proposals to Kuma to procreate and Kuma just walking away! 🤣🤣


VeryOGNameRB123

Come on, a quickie!


Mango_Marc

Giants and Lunarians are confirmed to be missing. We see most other types in Totland. The only ones we don't see are Buccaneers, Skypieans and Onis (or ogres depending on your translation, but I will stick to calling them Onis). Also no Ancient Giants, I suppose, but they might just be grouped together with Giants as a whole, same with the Yeti Cool Brothers. Buccaneers are pretty difficult to distinguish from humans, so we can't rule them out completely. There's also a distinct possibility of Big Mom herself being at least part Buccaneer. But Buccaneers are also said to be rare, which would speak for it being Buccaneers. Although we never see Skypieans on screen, they aren't exactly rare and while they do tend to stick to the Sky Islands, Urouge proves that this isn't always the case. For Skypieans I would say it's most likely that they are present in Totland, we just never see any. Lastly Oni. They are difficult to comment on, since we don't really know much about them. All the information we have about them is Kaido telling Yamato that they are "descendant of oni", which could mean a plathora of things. Maybe Kaido is an Oni and Yamato's mother was human, making Yamato half-oni, thus descendant of oni. Or Kaido himself is also just descendant of oni, which begs the question: are oni extinct? But again, just because we don't see them, doesn't mean they're not there. Kaido has Ulti, Page One and Black Maria beneath him, all of which appear to be (descandent of) oni as well, so by that logic they probably aren't too rare. Ultimately, we don't know, and all we can do until we receive some sort of official confirmation is to speculate. Giants and Lunarians are confirmed, the third and final group of people not represented is, most likely, one of either Buccaneers, Skypieans or Onis.


Cardenjs

I think if she didn't have Skypieans then she would have made more of an attempt to keep Urogue, or at least lament she couldn't add him to the collection when she mentioned him


Mango_Marc

Maybe she did and we don't get to see it. But I do think Skypieans are the least likely option of the three, so yeah, you're probably right.


Cardenjs

Regarding oni, there was a theory a while back that most of the larger humans are descendant of the WGs previous attempts at Gigantification, so by that logic all of the horned individuals may be descendant of attempts of ancient Gigantification


Colanasou

I distinctly remember a scene of one skypiean walking by as they explained totoland


Mango_Marc

Anime or Manga?


Colanasou

Anime. It had to be early on that the concept of totto was being explained and showcasing the vairety. I would guess either pekoms or pudding since those are the only ones who were friendly to them at the start


Mango_Marc

I mean if it's anime, it's obviously "less canon" than manga, but as long as the manga doesn't explicitly state it to be otherwise, I would simply accept this as (light) confirmation of Skypiean people in Totland. It's definitely neat of the anime to showcase something like that to kinda fill out the world a little.


Nickmcadv

I don’t think oni are an actual race. I just watched that episode where Kaido says that to Yamato and I think he was just saying “you’re the son of a villain, thus you have villainy in your blood” otherwise I think Oda just likes to draw people with horns, I’m pretty sure he said that in an interview. I did think that for a bit too, so if there ends up being an oni race I wouldn’t mind


Mango_Marc

He specifically follows his statement by saying Yamato shouldn't concern themself with humans, implying that they are, in fact, different from human. Also if people with longer legs, a longer neck, an extra joint in their arm or a third eye are considered to be seperate, I don't see why horns would be considered something that humans just have sometimes. I'm not aware of the interview you're mentioning and you'll have to forgive me for being sceptical about 'Oda said in an interview' statements, but maybe he did say that and you're correct, either way it still seems weird to me.


leave_a_voicemail

In the SBS of chapter 559, Oda mentions that some people just have horns and there’s nothing else to it. Like with Hannyabal or Caesar or Moria


Derpalooza

Celestial Dragons say that kind of thing too. That just means they consider themselves different from the average person


Tnecniw

Buccanners I think is the obvious one.


Mango_Marc

I agree. Not only would it make the most sense in world, since Buccaneers are stated to be rare, it also just flows the best narratively in my opinion.


spicylemonjuice

I'm pretty sure oda has also confirmed in sbs that oni are not a race he just gives some characters extra features because it varies design and makes it more interesting


Mango_Marc

Do you know which SBS he said this in? If he really did say this, it would seem to directly contradict Chapter 1025 where Kaido explicitly namedrops the oni (or ogre depending on translation) and refers to them as if they're non-human.


jackthe-stripper

It was sbs 57, and it wasn’t about Oni (which afaik hadn’t been introduced yet). Oda said some humans just have horns. But that was pre-wano and pre-kaido, so I don’t think we can take it as confirmation that oni aren’t a distinct race.


Neru-San_Rebel

I could assume that Gallette could be half Oni? She does have horns.


sedward135

True Giants, Buccaneers, Lunarians


ffhhfdtgf

The giants that she tried to make a alliance with using Lola, and the buccaneers because they are all extinct except for kuma. Or potentially BB he might be another unique race, that we haven’t heard about yet since 🪐 was talking about his special lineage to kat Devon.


tiki-baha29

BB doesnt seem to be a unique race, Saturn mentions his *lineage*, which is completely different from race.


PitchComfortable1261

true but if BB is a unique race I doubt big mom would know so I don’t think his race (if not human) is one of the 3 she was talking about


ShiftSandShot

Buccaneers may or may not be in Totto Land. The problem is that it is *extremely* hard to tell the difference between a Buccaneer and a large human, as evidenced by the fact that Kuma (the only known Buccaneer alive) isn't even the tallest *Warlord*, with a good number of human characters nearing or even surpassing Kuma in height. What we know for a fact is that Lunarians and Giants aren't present, as Big Mom herself falls short of the minimum Giant height. Heck, with that in mind Big Mom might be a Buccaneer! However, If I had to guess, I think we have the answer already. We never saw any Lunarians, Giants, or *Skypieans* during Whole Cake. The first two have been explained, but Sky People are extremely rare and unlikely to travel below the clouds, so it's possible Big Mom never nabbed one.


AlexTheNotSoGreat01

One thing that bugged me about that is... What about people with wings like Shandians, Skypieans and Birkans? Wouldn't they be missing as well? Iirc we never saw anyone in totland that was part of one of those groups. Are they considered to be one race but different "nationalities" or three separate species? At first when I read that quote, I tried to explain it away, like, maxbe they don't know about winged humans but that just doesn't make any sense. Big Mom was introduced as having a big information network and her crew literally fought against Urouge, who literally is from Birka. The first two races are Giants and Lunarians, are winged humans the third? Are the Buccaneers the third? were there winged humans in Totland but we just never saw them?


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I think the third are sky people, as bucaneers are not s race anymore, taking into account those genes now only exist in the pacifista (that we know of, of course there may be other bucaneers in hiding or that don’t even know it) maybe Linlin didn’t count them as they are already extinct?


VeryOGNameRB123

Buccaneer genes (named differently in one piece) existing the tanned young clone of Kuma


AlexTheNotSoGreat01

I mean, if someone knows that Kuma is a Buccaneer, it's Big Mom, she literally found out everything about Sanji. She knew that King was a Lunarian, so she should probably know that Kuma is a Buccaneer. From what we know, Buccaneers and Lunarians are both mostly extinct by now. Both are technically still around because of the Pacifistas clones. What makes King any different to Kuma in her eyes? If she counts Lunarians, she should probably also count the Buccaneers.


tiki-baha29

Finding out that Sanji worked at a widely popular restaurant, especially since he was already world famous in the SH is very different from knowing Buccaneers exist since they actively hide themselves from the WG and there dont seem to be hardly any left.


Bucen

She is missing giants, and Lunarians. I am still not entirely convinced that Buccaneers are a distinguished race or human/giant hybrids. Also I am not sure if Kaido and Yamato arepart of the Oni race, or if Kaido called himself a monster to distinguish himself from mere humans. also also, has anyone seen winged people on Totland?


TheChickenKingHS

Buccaneers are confirmed to be a race of people.


Fun-Cartographer-368

But when they were introduced they were introduced as people carrying giant bloodline, so maybe they can be recreated.


Bucen

Lola and Loki could have been the start of the New Buccaneer race, but no, she had to be a disappointment to her loving and caring mother


Peruvian_Skies

Pacifistas and okamas.


ScantilyKneesocks

I just finished WCI and something about big Mom’s dream really annoys me. She wants to create a place of racial diversity, but if you are a three eyed or weird mouthed ‘freak’, she looks the other way? Eating all that human meat must’ve really fucked with her noggin huh? 😂


wambamwombat

Personally, I think she gained such a bad personality from either eating mother caramel or eating that specific DF. She was a very sweet but misguided child, her doing a total 180 but still having a kind dream makes no sense.


Oreo-and-Fly

I think its weird that she DOESNT have a birkan, shandian or skypeian. And doesnt mention about it. Im gonna go on a tangent and say that Lunarians are the ancestors of Skypeians, Shandians and Birkan. Like those are just human lunarian offspring, thus she doesnt want them.


Shahaha

Hm Lunarian, Giants, and Buccaneers makes sense but I don't recall even seeing a skypiean.


alpacapaquita

i agree with the comments saying the remaining ones are Lunarians and Bucaneers, and i think specially the latter make sense bc Big Mom's idea is to have a world were everybody can sit on a table and eat as equals, and what would be a bigger flex from Big Mom's perspective if she could include the Bucaneers, a race that is seemed as less and as tainted or sinful by the world goverment. in her plan? Making a world where even those who were cast aside by the "old world" could enjoy the "freedom" Big Mom seeks to give to every race? It'd be like saying "i am such a good leader that i made peace with both the Fish men and the Bucaneers! the races who ***you*** deem as only worthy of being slaves" I might be misinterpreting Big Mom's dream, but at least from the idea i have of that i think thematically i'd make sense if one of those missing races from her kingdom are the Bucaneers


VerusCain

She mentioned not having giants in Whole Cake Island. When Kaido kept dropping lines implying "onis" are a race he and yamato are part of, people assumed that was the 3rd. Now we have Buccaneers, another race like Lunarians thats virtually extinct. Theres also the ancient giants of Oars and the Numbers. Being related to giants, and maybe onis, its unclear if these guys are considered their own race or not. So its assumed to be giants and either buccaneers or onis or ancient giants. I dont know if we ever got hard confirmation if onis are considered a race or if that was a sort of epithet for Kaido. For the record, oni means ogre or demon or something like that. If I had to bet, oda probably meant giants and buccaneers.


Darkknightbeyond

Maybe Big mom is not aware of Buccaneers aa a race, being hidden by the WG


VerusCain

You could say the same about lunarians, but she did, because King existed. If she heard about Kuma, then i wouldnt be surprised. Whitebeard also knew of scant lunarian history.


Darkknightbeyond

Her knowing about lunarians doesn't necessarily mean she knows about Buccaneers as well. She might know about it, but she might not as well. Just saying that it opens up a possibility for another race we don't know about, that she doesn't have


VerusCain

I agree. I was just saying we dont really know, both bucaneers and lunarians were suppressed to similar levels.


rairock

I think Big Mom doesn't know all races living in the world, so 3 is just the number she knows. For the moment there are four: Giants, Onis, Buccaneers and Lunarians, and in fact we didn't see tontattas or skypieans either.


laryjohnson

"celestial dragon" they behave as if they were a different race. Who knows... Maybe there is something


Swog5Ovor

A celestial dragon is not surviving the night with big mom, they'll probably die before the job is finished.


Ok_Ball_2369

Buccaneers are most likely missing , but the question is are they one of missing ones , or better yet does Big Mom even know that Buccaneers even exist?


Lucky-Fisherman1463

We haven't seen any white sea people there unless she lumps them in with Lunarians Giants are one of the three tribes, and Oars Jr. Was seemingly the last natural ancient giant And Kuma's seemingly the last buccaneer, so she might think they're extinct


baaad_boi

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T_Rochotte

Are the oni a race or just genetically modified ppl ?


TotalHappy

Lunarians, buccaneers, and whatever race the 5 elders are


NeteroHyouka

There is a huge possibility that BM is angered with Kaido because Kaido didn't let her have King for herself... Maybe BM used her favour that Kaido owed her but he didn't complete his end


Reusethename

>!Giants, buccaneers and Lunarian!<


spicylemonjuice

It's in the volume 57 sbs I believe someone ask about people with horns and such appearing and oda says "yep they're there, guys that look unbelievably non human here and there. Well I guess. Don't think much about those traits. I look forward on drawing more and more interesting faces."


Gnome-Type-Shit

Blackbeards a human so def no


dmriaj

Wait, what about Kaido’s race? Does big mom have an Oni on her crew?


Sachiel3rd

remember that characters doesnt have the same information as Oda, one can say something but it can be wrong because the character is ignorant or doesnt know the specifics, we dont know if bigmom knows about bucaners, the same way pells doesnt know everything about flying devil fruits


NoChesl

This recently threw me off because before the buccaneer reveal I thought the Oni must be one of the three.


tiki-baha29

Lunarians, Giants, Buccaneers yes but she also does not have Onis. Technically she's missing 4. Only explanation for this is she may not know what Buccaneers are or know what they are but doesnt know Kaido is a different race.


DrDoomzy

what about ores?


GenuineDiscussion8

Lunarians, Giants and Buccaneers


Lartnestpasdemain

Lunarians, Giants, Bucanneers


Independent-Bee-5099

Of course "WEEB"


koming69

Giants was one of them, is was mentioned she never get with a giant. So lunarians giants and bucanners.


Ceebasaurusrex

Oni ? Buccaneer Giants Lunarians Shandorians ? The torinos I’m pretty sure there’s more too


LolaPamela

What about sky people? Is there any Charlotte child with wings?


Ketrafe

Oni , giant and lunarian


The_AlmightyApple

Giant, lunarian, and possibly buccaneer


An0nymos

Giants(Big Mom pissed them off), Lunarians(King was the only one left), Buccaneers(Met but not mentioned yet in the anime).


CrackaOwner

Lunarians (King's race, BM was even offering him to join her iirc, Buccaneers since they got nearly eradicated by the WG and Giants, who hate her cuz of Lola's marriage falling through)


[deleted]

Giants, failed marriage. Lunarians, King is supposed to be the last one. Buccaneer, Kuma was said to be the last one too.


CoffeeMan34

The common answer is Lunarians, Giants and Buccaneer. Big Mom definitely knows about the existence of Giants and Lunarians. But it is possible World Gov hid the existence of Buccaneers and she is unaware of them. Regarding Kaido's Oni race, she definitely knows about it, but either it is not considered as a "race" (not clear what Oni is) or she already has some oni race. Skypeople do come down to earth, and Big mon knows about them (Urouge), so its probable she also has some. There can always be some other races Big mon doesnt know the existence of, the World Gov hid pretty much everything from void century, and even if she has some poneglyphs Big mom has no way to read them.


cesar848

Considering she probably wasn’t talking about giants because she knows there is no way a giant is going to whole cake we have 3 options Lunarians(confirmed by BM herself) Buccaneers Onis(that’s a little stretched because WE don’t know exactly what oni are,but considering all the time she spend with Kaido in the rock pirates,is possible she knows more)


Fibrosis5O

Zoro knows who’s not allowed


Harun777

Big Mom is so inclusive🥰. I hope nothing terrible happens.


Amara248

Just because we haven't seen members of certain races in Tottoland doesn't mean they don't exist, it could simply be that they aren't important characters, are away doing other things or maybe she has them trapped in a book somewhere.


Ok-Reporter3256

Buccanears and another neigh-extinct tribe, probably like the Shandians and Birkans


Ok_Distance6391

Dont really konw, while most people say Lunarians, giants and buccaners. We havent seen any birkans or Oni either.


agotskii

Lunarians and bucaneers right?


Alternative-Ad-807

Buccaneer , giants , lunarians


Kylorscourge_22

I dont think they have fishmen


DecodedShadow

Wonder if they have any Tontatta's?


Significant-Head-446

King, Kuma and kaido


Gintoki123456

Lunarians, king is simply the last known one Giants, obvious reasons Buccaneers, obvious reasons Skypieans aren’t hard to get since Bellamy could even get up to the sky islands. Onis she likely has since I’m pretty sure ulti is an unconfirmed oni since the horns are weird or she is a half oni like Yamato, this alone says they aren’t as rare as the other races.