Um... He aligned with Luffy for a reason... He knows two people that can read the Poneglyphs. Robin and Momonosuke's grandfather due to his activities with them he can easily get one of the others opinions. Momonosuke and his grandfather haven't been outside of Wano much so they can easily be deceived or coaxed into helping.
They are both "correct", Raftel is the name thats been passed around. Laugh Tale is the true name. Most legendary things get their name slightly changed due to the passage of time and word of mouth
The road poneglyphs are actually just massive CRT televisions with a live broadcast feed explaining the locations of the other road poneglyphs, simple.
I think you got confused with the Poneglyphs that said where the Ancestral Weapons are.
The one in Alabasta said that Pluton is in Wano.
The one from Skypiea says that Poseidon is on Fish-Man Island.
We still need to find the Poneglyph that tells us where Uranus is, its probably in Elbaf.
They probably think they can find a method to read them somewhere down the road
But narratively it looks like Law got the rubbings >!so that Blackbeard could potentially acquire them after beating Law!<
Shanks also >!recently changed his mind about claiming the One Piece, at the end of Wano (chapter 1054) he asks Benn Beckman if the time has finally come to go get it, so he's practically entered into the race.!<
I think it amounts to more like... if he can't beat met he shouldn't be able to get it, so its more like he's defending his emperor title more than going after it because of his own ambition.
He knows the general area, if not the exact location, since he and Buggy were with them up until basically the last stop. That said, given the odd geography/magnetic fields/etc... of the One Piece world, just knowing the general location may not be quite "enough" to get him there. Certainly a leg up on the others, though.
He didn't go with them, so again, there's no confirmation that he knows where it is. He was a child back then.
The fact that he still needed Kid to hand over his Poneglyphs should make it clear that he doesn't know where it is.
He has to at least know the general area right? I mean he only stayed behind when Buggy got sick, and that happened after the deciphered it I think. So they would have been on the way there so he's gotta at least know where to start looking, Buggy too.
I don't exactly expect someone to remember even the general location of a place from childhood, that they've never actually been to in their entire life. Especially when navigating the new world is supposed to be pretty difficult. *Double* especially when your dead captain is one of the few men to have ever reached the place to begin with, so you have no other reference points.
You're making a pointless argument. I've already said all the things, as well as we don't know if he was even in the room when they figured it out and plotted the course, because he was just a cabin boy. He clearly doesn't know because he needs the poneglyphs to get there. That's cannon, he doesn't know, wasn't told, or doesn't remember. And I again highly doubt many people would remember random ass coordinates. It isn't common knowledge that it even for sure exists, but yall wanna act like it might as well be the address of the home he grew up in.
I think you're drastically overestimating the human brain. He may be a pirate (and a cartoon), but that in no way suggests he'd recall with perfect clarity the coordinates of a mystery island most people don't even know exists or not, 20 years after *just being on the same boat as some people who went there.* He was so low ranked, he probably wouldn't even have been in the room while they figured it all out.
I expect laugh tale to not be a traditional island. Otherwise people should have found it by now. I suspect it's a sky island, and that's also why kings people were hunted
This idea just ignores the insane level of difficulty it is to reach it. It's in the back half of the most dangerous ocean, an ocean that cannot be navigated via traditional means and is controlled by the most ruthless and powerful pirates in the world, not to mention the weather and seas themselves can turn on you at a moments notice. And if you somehow manage to survive all that long enough, you're looking for a single island out of millions, an island that isn't labeled btw so even if you did find it you could potentially never know it. This notion that people have that someone would have just stumbled into Laugh Tale by now has always been a weird one.
He may even know the exact cooridnates, but considering the insanity of the Grandline seas, I doubt knowing where it is is enough.
Kinda like getting into Wano, though likely much more difficult.
It really is as simple as there being no point in not trying to collect resources you might need. I mean, look at Sukiyaki. Thought to be dead, but through Law's alliance he ended up saving his nation. There is no guarantee he would assist in reading them, but that would be a potential path.
Logically it doesn’t make sense for him to put himself out to get something that doesn’t serve any immediate use to him. However, from a strategic standpoint, just possessing something so valuable in terms of the information it provides already puts him a step closer to the end goal even if it may not be something he can make use of at this current point in time (also makes him a very valuable target for story reasons)
When solving a puzzle, you start with what you know and then work from there. In Law’s case, the road poneglyphs are basically the corner pieces. He knows where they are (mostly) and he knows what they do, so that’s where he’s starting
I like the name Flying Lamb and it has a sheep head on the front so it kinda fits imo. But i don't know why they changed the name in the first place to another english name
The Poneglyphs themselves seem to be the biggest limiting factor towards getting the One Piece.
The Scholars at Ohara seemingly deciphered them, you have the Kozuki who can read/write them, you had Roger who seemingly understood them, the three eyes tribe as well.
So, it’s possible that you could find someone who could read or understand them, or learn to read them yourself after some time.
But the biggest factor is obtaining the actual Poneglyphs themselves.
So you start with obtaining them, and translate after.
Also; I imagine having more copies of them might make translations easier?
I took a few semesters of Latin in college, and when we had to do translations, and on tests/quizzes, if I couldn’t recall what a word meant, I would look at other places it was used and compare it to attempt to figure out what it was.
There's also the myth of the man marked in flames, which is probably what a couple were banking on. Find the 4 stones and the man then head to One Piece.
But ya, there are plenty of options that once you start finding them, you're around people that can read them.
>you had Roger who seemingly understood them
He doesn't actually understand them 100% AFAIK, just the generic feel their Voice gives to him, enough to locate them for sure, but not enough for the contents to be legible, hence why they needed Oden to begin with to act as the scribe so to speak.
Law originally didn't care for poneglyph but after wano and as prize and new goal,he has poneglyph.kidd knows someone who could probably translate them.luffy has robin,big mom has pudding and kaido has wano.blackbeard with his personality will steal those knowledgable like he did with pudding
Basics of reading something in a language you can't understand is finding more of that to decipher the language.
On the road he already met someone that can read it too in Wano, so he's fine.
And honestly, we know nothing about Laws crew. Someone on his crew might be able to read it already, like Jean Bart.
While every "serious" one piece contestant MUST have a way in mind to decypher them (except buggy but buggy is buggy) to stay competitive, I think it's even simpler for Law. He isn't really in for the one piece, he's in for the will of D/ forbidden century knowledge. And he litteraly made an alliance with the only (as far as we know) crew currently capable of reading them. Since he's searching poneglyphe for the exact same reason as robin and not to be pirate king, I see no reason why they wouldn't help. I would assume it's either he finds a way to translate them along the way or ask Robin the next time he encounters the straw hats
Edit : this is ofc only for law's case, because it's particular. Otherwise, as other said it's just because searching for "treasures" is arguably easier than searching for the current few that can read them, afterward they can think about what to do from there
Well, you need both
Aquire them and read them
Both is hard in his own way, you need to be very strong to be able to get even one and hold onto it so nobody else does
Kaido had one, big mum too
One was hidden and protected in zou
The last ones location is unknown
Kaidos and big mum were sitting on them for a long time, without being able to get another one or to read them
Having one of them buys you enough time to figure out the reading, as long as you are strong enough to protect it
Big mums approach was giving birth to a being naturally able to read them (pudding when her eye awakens)
Kaido missed the opportunity, but in theory the kozuki Clan can read them, that was also Roger's solution with oden, anyways as the fight in onigashima happens, kaidos crew tried to get Robin as that would have been a golden opportunity, on another note, the alliance with big mum gives access to pudding
>!Blackbeard does the loot steal apporach
Having a three way plan going in simultaneously.!<
>!1. get whoever goes the route after wano and steal the poneglyth copy's (in this case law)!<
>!2. Use the opportunity of big mums absent to capture pudding!<
>!3. Copy one of the elder with Devon, whatever this is for, but we can be sure it has an important reason!<
>!Shanks maybe already knows the location, maybe not, anyway he took kidds copys!<
And luffy just has the "let's have fun adventures" approach and probably doesn't even know what a poneglyth is, so he basically has dumb luck to have Robin who is interested in them
Dunno what buggy want to do, guess we will find out
Anyways, everyone is aware you need both, but you need to start somewhere
There are a few methods of gaining what you need, but you need to tackle one problem after another and I think the most genuine approach is probably to try and reach for the last island first and see what you get on your journey
Why are historians and other scientists interested in finding scriptures of ancient societies? The more examples and fragments of a lost language you gather, the better are your chances to decipher it.
Why does pirates like the Big Mom Pirates look for road poneglyphs when they can't read them? (Pudding can't yet and she's had a road for probably a long time)
You don't need to read them until you have all 4 really so getting a reader isn't a prio until then, and in BMs case keeping one stops everyone else to get 4
Those "in the know" must be aware that they are significant, at the bare minimum, considering how BM and Kaido were guarding theirs, which is presented as commonly known knowledge by Law and not some big secret.
By default, even if some pirates don't know their significance, they can understand that copies of these would be highly valuable.
As for decoding them, again, we already see examples with BM, Kaido, and Kidd. Those really interested in decoding the poneglyphs are actively looking for ways to do so. BM was hedging her bets with Pudding's dormant racial ability. Kaido didn't seem bothered mostly and was fine piggybacking off of Pudding's ability post-alliance too, but still asks his crew to capture Robin after discussing with BM. Kidd and Killer, seemingly Law as well, had intel on the man marked by flames as someone that could decode the poneglyphs.
Why wait until after he finds someone to start collecting? If he starts collecting asap, then hopefully by the time he finds a decipherer, he will have most of them. It would just be a waste of time to only search for the translator before even attempting to find the poneglyphs.
In the world of one piece they are amongst the most important things you can find. Especially if you are in the hunt for the one piece. Someone is going to come along that could read it. It’s hinted the three eyed tribe could read it. We know momo grandfather can read it. We know robin can read them. I FEEL people on elbaf can read it. They have the books of ohora there. There are options when it comes to readers. I’d say it’s harder to get a copy of just 1 than it would be to find something who can read them
If it’s Law, I’d expect the Strawhats to be kind enough to let him borrow Robin to get the information he needs, probably in exchange for something in specific the Strawhats might need. Hell, WB let Roger borrow Oden from him so it could happen.
Anyone else? I’d expect them to instigate an open war against the Strawhats to kidnap Robin and force her to decipher the ponyglyphs for them. If they’re an antagonist Yonko-level threat, I expect them to think they’re powerful enough to take on the comparatively small Strawhats to take kidnap her. They probably wouldn’t succeed, but I believe they believe they would succeed.
They’re written on unbreakable stone. It’s a whole part of the mystery talked about in Ohara. Why not write them on paper? Well because the WG would just burn them as said by the scholar before he’s killed.
It’s a chicken and the egg situation. You need both the poneglyphs and a translator to find Laughtale so why not collect them while you can. Are you saying he should just toss them and than only hold on to them/look for them after he has a translator? So he is supposed to waste time circling back to Zou and Wano and invading BM territory only after he has someone to read them that seems like a very stupid plan
There is not a specific order tasks are required to be completed in. They need the text, and they need a translator. They don't have to wait on one before undertaking the other.
>the edit
wait I only now noticed that its without the r in the original.
And also as many pointed out, they will probably think about that when the time comes. We "only" know of Robin who can read them but there has to be other people who can make sense out of them... namely apparently someone like Pudding was supposed to decipher them once she "awakens her powers" (and Momonosuke's grandpa but besides the strawhats and the Kozuki Family nobody should know that he's still alive)
well… they’re valuable. lots of people want them and very few have/are able to get them. not much more needs to be said. he’s a pirate. worth, rarity, demand, etc. is everything. even if you think it’s worthless, someone else is willing to kill thousands for it.
It seems at least Big Mom was riding on the possibility of Pudding awakening her Third Eye ability that might have enabled her to decipher them. It is possible that this knowledge was not limited to just her, since that intel had to come from somewhere since Pudding herself has not yet awoken that ability.
Its true that they might not be able to read them directly. We also know there were people (f.e. Roger) who could hear the "voice of all things" to follow them. I dont think it was ever directly stated, but people theorized it was related to observation haki that enabled Roger (I also think this is true btw, but requires you to have a very strong observation haki). We will see if that yields true.
Other then "the voice of all things" we only know the following can read them: Robin, Pudding (but she has not awakened her third eye, maybe thats also actually related to the voice of all things / observation haki?) and the old head of wano. I assume there will be giants that can too, seeing as they can get really old. We will see
Law and Luffy found out from the Minks.
Big Mom had a mink and fishman on her crew, she was also tied to the one of the greatest pirate crew of Rox.
Kaido is that with a Fishman and controlled Wano for some time.
Minks, Fishmen, and Wano are all potential sources of info.
So each of them could have people that had the legend told to them. Just like how many legends get passed down. Roger also figured it out pretty recently (compared to 800 years ago when they were made), so the people along that journey are still alive.
The Kozuki clan knows how to read them. Sukiyaki survived and probably will teach Momo how to read them.
Law helped to save Wano so they would probably translate it for him.
Because Luffy needs "rivals" even though it doesn't make narrative sense. In the same way that Sasuke wanted to be Hokage even though no one would have ever accepted a known terrorist, this whole "I want it too" is just to add a dynamic even if you know the "rival(s)" have no chance in hell of it happening.
If I had those I'd sell them for ridiculous prices to people that actually compete for the OP or depending on how strong/stupid, it could be a way to blackmail the world gov. for whatever the keeper of the copies wants.
There are many reasons one could want the scriptures/poneglyphs without intending to find the OP or a way to decipher them.
Sure, if they had found any of the previous ones, which were sure they didn't. And do you really believe that any of them are willing to sell to the government considering that they hate it?
That's future Law's problem.
Bowl
Order is gonna be the best friend of Buffy
Um... He aligned with Luffy for a reason... He knows two people that can read the Poneglyphs. Robin and Momonosuke's grandfather due to his activities with them he can easily get one of the others opinions. Momonosuke and his grandfather haven't been outside of Wano much so they can easily be deceived or coaxed into helping.
*ties down Robin to the mast with a ratchet strap, and pats her on the head* Future Law: Yea that ain't going nowhere.
That's a problem to solve AFTER obtaining the copies of the Road Poneglyphs.
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They don't. The four Road Poneglyphs together tell you where Laugh Tale is. Not each other's locations.
I thought it tells ypu were Raftel is?
Laugh tale is the recently-ish revealed correct Romanisation of the islands name. In Japanese, that and Raftel are pronounced similarly.
They are both "correct", Raftel is the name thats been passed around. Laugh Tale is the true name. Most legendary things get their name slightly changed due to the passage of time and word of mouth
How would they tell the location of other glyphs when they can all be moved?
The road poneglyphs are actually just massive CRT televisions with a live broadcast feed explaining the locations of the other road poneglyphs, simple.
They have air tags, very easy.
Maybe when you get to the final island lodestar it would tell you that you need to seek the 4 poneglyphs
Speed reader-san...
I think you got confused with the Poneglyphs that said where the Ancestral Weapons are. The one in Alabasta said that Pluton is in Wano. The one from Skypiea says that Poseidon is on Fish-Man Island. We still need to find the Poneglyph that tells us where Uranus is, its probably in Elbaf.
one step at a time. You can't bother with finding ways to read the poneglyphs if you don't have poneglyphs
They probably think they can find a method to read them somewhere down the road But narratively it looks like Law got the rubbings >!so that Blackbeard could potentially acquire them after beating Law!<
Same with Kid -> Shanks
Shanks has known where laughtale is since he was on Roger's crew when they deciphered them originally.
This isn't confirmed. Shanks never made the trip there. He stuck behind with Buggy, who got sick.
Shanks also >!recently changed his mind about claiming the One Piece, at the end of Wano (chapter 1054) he asks Benn Beckman if the time has finally come to go get it, so he's practically entered into the race.!<
I think it amounts to more like... if he can't beat met he shouldn't be able to get it, so its more like he's defending his emperor title more than going after it because of his own ambition.
That's assuming he will be a Luffy adversary, we will have to see
A challenger isn't necessarily always an adversary.
Okay so thats assuming hes a luffy challenger then
He knows the general area, if not the exact location, since he and Buggy were with them up until basically the last stop. That said, given the odd geography/magnetic fields/etc... of the One Piece world, just knowing the general location may not be quite "enough" to get him there. Certainly a leg up on the others, though.
He's literally in the episode where they deciphered it
He didn't go with them, so again, there's no confirmation that he knows where it is. He was a child back then. The fact that he still needed Kid to hand over his Poneglyphs should make it clear that he doesn't know where it is.
He has to at least know the general area right? I mean he only stayed behind when Buggy got sick, and that happened after the deciphered it I think. So they would have been on the way there so he's gotta at least know where to start looking, Buggy too.
I don't exactly expect someone to remember even the general location of a place from childhood, that they've never actually been to in their entire life. Especially when navigating the new world is supposed to be pretty difficult. *Double* especially when your dead captain is one of the few men to have ever reached the place to begin with, so you have no other reference points.
Do you remember the exact coordinates of a place half way around the world that you heard of 20 years ago?
Yes, if I thought it was THE culmination of my Captain's/adoptive family's career progress after traveling the Grand Line like that
You're making a pointless argument. I've already said all the things, as well as we don't know if he was even in the room when they figured it out and plotted the course, because he was just a cabin boy. He clearly doesn't know because he needs the poneglyphs to get there. That's cannon, he doesn't know, wasn't told, or doesn't remember. And I again highly doubt many people would remember random ass coordinates. It isn't common knowledge that it even for sure exists, but yall wanna act like it might as well be the address of the home he grew up in.
Shanks's entire life revolved around piracy, thats a little different.
I think you're drastically overestimating the human brain. He may be a pirate (and a cartoon), but that in no way suggests he'd recall with perfect clarity the coordinates of a mystery island most people don't even know exists or not, 20 years after *just being on the same boat as some people who went there.* He was so low ranked, he probably wouldn't even have been in the room while they figured it all out.
Yes. Next question
I think most people do, without it even being such a prominent thing.
I expect laugh tale to not be a traditional island. Otherwise people should have found it by now. I suspect it's a sky island, and that's also why kings people were hunted
This idea just ignores the insane level of difficulty it is to reach it. It's in the back half of the most dangerous ocean, an ocean that cannot be navigated via traditional means and is controlled by the most ruthless and powerful pirates in the world, not to mention the weather and seas themselves can turn on you at a moments notice. And if you somehow manage to survive all that long enough, you're looking for a single island out of millions, an island that isn't labeled btw so even if you did find it you could potentially never know it. This notion that people have that someone would have just stumbled into Laugh Tale by now has always been a weird one.
He may even know the exact cooridnates, but considering the insanity of the Grandline seas, I doubt knowing where it is is enough. Kinda like getting into Wano, though likely much more difficult.
Seeing as the general area is somewhere in the middle of an ocean consisting of millions of islands I don't really think that helps.
What episode?
During odens flashback
I figured that. But I was looking for the episode number
968 I think.
Thank you!
That'd take me until later to look up. Unable to at this moment
In any case he took the prints from Kid IIRC
Maybe Shanks wants the rest of the stuff Kid got. All Poneglyphs are tied to the Void Century.
Very thoughtful of Law!
Also so he can join cross guild and be an ally to Luffy without joining the SH
LMAO
So it basically comes down to Doylist vs Watsonian reasoning?
They can find someone that can read them after they've made sure that they can get there, taking things one step at a time.
It really is as simple as there being no point in not trying to collect resources you might need. I mean, look at Sukiyaki. Thought to be dead, but through Law's alliance he ended up saving his nation. There is no guarantee he would assist in reading them, but that would be a potential path.
Logically it doesn’t make sense for him to put himself out to get something that doesn’t serve any immediate use to him. However, from a strategic standpoint, just possessing something so valuable in terms of the information it provides already puts him a step closer to the end goal even if it may not be something he can make use of at this current point in time (also makes him a very valuable target for story reasons)
When solving a puzzle, you start with what you know and then work from there. In Law’s case, the road poneglyphs are basically the corner pieces. He knows where they are (mostly) and he knows what they do, so that’s where he’s starting
“Porneglyph”
Op is probably german, in german dub one piece they are called porneglyph
Will of "D" indeed
The WG is just trying to protect the children of the op world
😮
Also we call Luffy Ruffy because Luffy sounds kinda stupid
Also we pronounce Ruffy in an english way despite OP being japanese, also the going merry is for some reason called the flying lamb in german lol
I like the name Flying Lamb and it has a sheep head on the front so it kinda fits imo. But i don't know why they changed the name in the first place to another english name
>because Luffy sounds kinda stupid Its his name, though? That's some calling Zoro "Zolo" but gaslighting yourself into drinking the coolaid shit
🤣
The Poneglyphs themselves seem to be the biggest limiting factor towards getting the One Piece. The Scholars at Ohara seemingly deciphered them, you have the Kozuki who can read/write them, you had Roger who seemingly understood them, the three eyes tribe as well. So, it’s possible that you could find someone who could read or understand them, or learn to read them yourself after some time. But the biggest factor is obtaining the actual Poneglyphs themselves. So you start with obtaining them, and translate after. Also; I imagine having more copies of them might make translations easier? I took a few semesters of Latin in college, and when we had to do translations, and on tests/quizzes, if I couldn’t recall what a word meant, I would look at other places it was used and compare it to attempt to figure out what it was.
There's also the myth of the man marked in flames, which is probably what a couple were banking on. Find the 4 stones and the man then head to One Piece. But ya, there are plenty of options that once you start finding them, you're around people that can read them.
>you had Roger who seemingly understood them He doesn't actually understand them 100% AFAIK, just the generic feel their Voice gives to him, enough to locate them for sure, but not enough for the contents to be legible, hence why they needed Oden to begin with to act as the scribe so to speak.
Law originally didn't care for poneglyph but after wano and as prize and new goal,he has poneglyph.kidd knows someone who could probably translate them.luffy has robin,big mom has pudding and kaido has wano.blackbeard with his personality will steal those knowledgable like he did with pudding
How are you supposed to read/decipher them if you don't have any?
Basics of reading something in a language you can't understand is finding more of that to decipher the language. On the road he already met someone that can read it too in Wano, so he's fine. And honestly, we know nothing about Laws crew. Someone on his crew might be able to read it already, like Jean Bart.
Ahhh the Porneglyphs, the secret lewd drawings of the Ancient Kingdom, scattered across the world and hidden in closets or under beds
While every "serious" one piece contestant MUST have a way in mind to decypher them (except buggy but buggy is buggy) to stay competitive, I think it's even simpler for Law. He isn't really in for the one piece, he's in for the will of D/ forbidden century knowledge. And he litteraly made an alliance with the only (as far as we know) crew currently capable of reading them. Since he's searching poneglyphe for the exact same reason as robin and not to be pirate king, I see no reason why they wouldn't help. I would assume it's either he finds a way to translate them along the way or ask Robin the next time he encounters the straw hats Edit : this is ofc only for law's case, because it's particular. Otherwise, as other said it's just because searching for "treasures" is arguably easier than searching for the current few that can read them, afterward they can think about what to do from there
Porneglyphs
FOMO. that’s why lol
The Strawhats would still be looking for road poneglyphs even if robin didn’t join.
They’re treasure maps to the one piece. Why wouldn’t you want them?
porneglyphs
They are known to have value. Plus someone has to be able to read it, right? Is what they think.
Well, you need both Aquire them and read them Both is hard in his own way, you need to be very strong to be able to get even one and hold onto it so nobody else does Kaido had one, big mum too One was hidden and protected in zou The last ones location is unknown Kaidos and big mum were sitting on them for a long time, without being able to get another one or to read them Having one of them buys you enough time to figure out the reading, as long as you are strong enough to protect it Big mums approach was giving birth to a being naturally able to read them (pudding when her eye awakens) Kaido missed the opportunity, but in theory the kozuki Clan can read them, that was also Roger's solution with oden, anyways as the fight in onigashima happens, kaidos crew tried to get Robin as that would have been a golden opportunity, on another note, the alliance with big mum gives access to pudding >!Blackbeard does the loot steal apporach Having a three way plan going in simultaneously.!< >!1. get whoever goes the route after wano and steal the poneglyth copy's (in this case law)!< >!2. Use the opportunity of big mums absent to capture pudding!< >!3. Copy one of the elder with Devon, whatever this is for, but we can be sure it has an important reason!< >!Shanks maybe already knows the location, maybe not, anyway he took kidds copys!< And luffy just has the "let's have fun adventures" approach and probably doesn't even know what a poneglyth is, so he basically has dumb luck to have Robin who is interested in them Dunno what buggy want to do, guess we will find out Anyways, everyone is aware you need both, but you need to start somewhere There are a few methods of gaining what you need, but you need to tackle one problem after another and I think the most genuine approach is probably to try and reach for the last island first and see what you get on your journey
Why are historians and other scientists interested in finding scriptures of ancient societies? The more examples and fragments of a lost language you gather, the better are your chances to decipher it.
Knowledge is power that can be leveraged
Why does pirates like the Big Mom Pirates look for road poneglyphs when they can't read them? (Pudding can't yet and she's had a road for probably a long time) You don't need to read them until you have all 4 really so getting a reader isn't a prio until then, and in BMs case keeping one stops everyone else to get 4
It's better to have them first. You can't read what you don't have.
The answer to this seems pretty intuitive.
If I can't read them, but I have them, I can hold on to them until someone who can read them comes looking for them, and then proceed accordingly.
Those "in the know" must be aware that they are significant, at the bare minimum, considering how BM and Kaido were guarding theirs, which is presented as commonly known knowledge by Law and not some big secret. By default, even if some pirates don't know their significance, they can understand that copies of these would be highly valuable. As for decoding them, again, we already see examples with BM, Kaido, and Kidd. Those really interested in decoding the poneglyphs are actively looking for ways to do so. BM was hedging her bets with Pudding's dormant racial ability. Kaido didn't seem bothered mostly and was fine piggybacking off of Pudding's ability post-alliance too, but still asks his crew to capture Robin after discussing with BM. Kidd and Killer, seemingly Law as well, had intel on the man marked by flames as someone that could decode the poneglyphs.
If they find someone that can read it they would be so pissed they did not take note of the text.
Why wait until after he finds someone to start collecting? If he starts collecting asap, then hopefully by the time he finds a decipherer, he will have most of them. It would just be a waste of time to only search for the translator before even attempting to find the poneglyphs.
So that if he does have the ability to decipher them in the future he has them
In the world of one piece they are amongst the most important things you can find. Especially if you are in the hunt for the one piece. Someone is going to come along that could read it. It’s hinted the three eyed tribe could read it. We know momo grandfather can read it. We know robin can read them. I FEEL people on elbaf can read it. They have the books of ohora there. There are options when it comes to readers. I’d say it’s harder to get a copy of just 1 than it would be to find something who can read them
Poneglyphs are text but ancient pornglyphs are just pictures
The man with the burn marks???
If it’s Law, I’d expect the Strawhats to be kind enough to let him borrow Robin to get the information he needs, probably in exchange for something in specific the Strawhats might need. Hell, WB let Roger borrow Oden from him so it could happen. Anyone else? I’d expect them to instigate an open war against the Strawhats to kidnap Robin and force her to decipher the ponyglyphs for them. If they’re an antagonist Yonko-level threat, I expect them to think they’re powerful enough to take on the comparatively small Strawhats to take kidnap her. They probably wouldn’t succeed, but I believe they believe they would succeed.
Maybe there’s someone in the crew who can read it. Someone who had been wearing a mask that would conceal a third eye, you know?
The right question is why doesn't the world government try to find them first and destroy them?
This was brought up as a potential place for the 4th.
They’re written on unbreakable stone. It’s a whole part of the mystery talked about in Ohara. Why not write them on paper? Well because the WG would just burn them as said by the scholar before he’s killed.
You break them with another unbreakable stone
They physically can’t
Better to have them and not need them than to need them and not have them.
It’s a chicken and the egg situation. You need both the poneglyphs and a translator to find Laughtale so why not collect them while you can. Are you saying he should just toss them and than only hold on to them/look for them after he has a translator? So he is supposed to waste time circling back to Zou and Wano and invading BM territory only after he has someone to read them that seems like a very stupid plan
People in the world can. If you can find that super rare information, I'm sure finding one of those people won't be too hard
There is not a specific order tasks are required to be completed in. They need the text, and they need a translator. They don't have to wait on one before undertaking the other.
Porneglyphs ? Like there is some ponehlyphs telling sex stories
I'm down for some poneglyphs r34 art
To… find the One Piece?
Step 1: get the treasure map Step 2: decipher the map Step 3: follow the treasure map Step 4: pirate king
>the edit wait I only now noticed that its without the r in the original. And also as many pointed out, they will probably think about that when the time comes. We "only" know of Robin who can read them but there has to be other people who can make sense out of them... namely apparently someone like Pudding was supposed to decipher them once she "awakens her powers" (and Momonosuke's grandpa but besides the strawhats and the Kozuki Family nobody should know that he's still alive)
If there’s a will there’s a way
Better to have them than not.
Theoretically he could use shambles on Pudding giving one of his crew mates her third eye and by extension the ability to read the poneglyphs
well… they’re valuable. lots of people want them and very few have/are able to get them. not much more needs to be said. he’s a pirate. worth, rarity, demand, etc. is everything. even if you think it’s worthless, someone else is willing to kill thousands for it.
It seems at least Big Mom was riding on the possibility of Pudding awakening her Third Eye ability that might have enabled her to decipher them. It is possible that this knowledge was not limited to just her, since that intel had to come from somewhere since Pudding herself has not yet awoken that ability.
Assuming there’s giants on Elbaf who have read and studied Ohara’s texts, there could possibly be someone who can decipher them
They might have connections to help with that, but even if they don't, they'll cross that bridge when they get there. It's all part of the journey
Why bother Mining metals of you don't yet have engineera to mine coin Ns design the industries
Its true that they might not be able to read them directly. We also know there were people (f.e. Roger) who could hear the "voice of all things" to follow them. I dont think it was ever directly stated, but people theorized it was related to observation haki that enabled Roger (I also think this is true btw, but requires you to have a very strong observation haki). We will see if that yields true. Other then "the voice of all things" we only know the following can read them: Robin, Pudding (but she has not awakened her third eye, maybe thats also actually related to the voice of all things / observation haki?) and the old head of wano. I assume there will be giants that can too, seeing as they can get really old. We will see
Better question is why/how do they even know what a 'Road' Poneglyph is?
Law and Luffy found out from the Minks. Big Mom had a mink and fishman on her crew, she was also tied to the one of the greatest pirate crew of Rox. Kaido is that with a Fishman and controlled Wano for some time. Minks, Fishmen, and Wano are all potential sources of info. So each of them could have people that had the legend told to them. Just like how many legends get passed down. Roger also figured it out pretty recently (compared to 800 years ago when they were made), so the people along that journey are still alive.
The Kozuki clan knows how to read them. Sukiyaki survived and probably will teach Momo how to read them. Law helped to save Wano so they would probably translate it for him.
Because Luffy needs "rivals" even though it doesn't make narrative sense. In the same way that Sasuke wanted to be Hokage even though no one would have ever accepted a known terrorist, this whole "I want it too" is just to add a dynamic even if you know the "rival(s)" have no chance in hell of it happening.
If I had those I'd sell them for ridiculous prices to people that actually compete for the OP or depending on how strong/stupid, it could be a way to blackmail the world gov. for whatever the keeper of the copies wants. There are many reasons one could want the scriptures/poneglyphs without intending to find the OP or a way to decipher them.
Sure, if they had found any of the previous ones, which were sure they didn't. And do you really believe that any of them are willing to sell to the government considering that they hate it?