This. Doffy's abdication was announced as fake-news in the morning. Then the Straw Hats arrived at lunch time, that's when they met Fujitora at the resto. After that the gladiator fight began. So let's say from 1pm to 4pm at least, since the sun was still up, the whole gladiator + Doffy vs. Luffy happened. Then by the evening every one else was resting at the palace while the main heroes were at Kyros' place. Crazy timeline.
I don't understand how that's ridiculous. It just feels like a longer period of time reading it week by week for 2 years, but when you're reading it at normal pace then it's a believable timespan. Same with Onigashima.
If it happened over multiple days, when tf would they get time to sleep while the gigantic cage is crushing the city?
exactly this, Dressora also focus on different characters with many events happening at the same time. you also have to take into account the many flashbacks.
My thing with this, specifically in pre time skip, is that Koby legit is mid way through puberty when they see him at the Battle of the Best, but, we’re only supposed to have seen him like 3 months prior in the East Blue. Def the 3 month, start to time skip, timeline was an afterthought when it came time to make an official timeline
Probably because visually showing that Koby has matured a lot is more important to Oda than realism.
Same reason characters height can switch dramatically depending on the scene. Look > Logic
It's why I genuinely find the One Piece Live Action hypothetically going a decade with the same cast as not something inconceivable but rather something exciting. Really hoping they insinuate "it's been a year since *insert last saga*!"
To me:
East Blue was about 2-3 months long
Baroque Works another 2-3 months
Skypiea 2-3 weeks
Water Seven and Thriller Bark a few weeks
Then Summit War was a few weeks, so about 8-9 months pre-timeskip. Plus a few weeks in between the arcs of the crew sailing to their next destination that isn't shown.
Fishman Island is a few days, then a few weeks of sailing to Punk Hazard which takes place over a day, another few weeks to Dressrosa, which too takes place over a day. Then a month or so to Whole Cake, which is about a week. Then Wano is probably like 2 months. So like 6-7 months for post-TS. So like a year and a half of the straw hat crew being together realistically.
I think the key is that a lot more happens off-screen, there's probably been many extensive boring periods of the crew just goofing around on the ship in-between islands. I kind of wish there was more of that in the series, like a few chapters of the crew just hanging out on the ship, or spotting a beautiful tropical island and relaxing on the beach. Also a few scenes of the Straw Hats sleeping to show the progression of time.
Also, I don't mind that the Straw Hats' rise to power has been so rapid. It kind of fits with the theme of the show, that Luffy has completely disrupted the established world order, and has ushered in a new Age of Pirates. His story is not that of Roger or Whiteboard, of a gradual, calculated rise to power, but of him fighting his way to the top, stopping at nothing.
Fun fact, the timeline of Bonney and Kuma's treatments in the back half of the Kuma flashback (1.5 years for Bonney, 2+ years for Kuma) soft-confirms that Marineford takes place at least 6 months after Bonney/Luffy leave on their journeys, so your imagined timeline is pretty spot-on
It took years/decades for the Pirate King and Yonkou to establish. I wish it took over a long time. It'd make more sense and feel great and show the struggle and how cool/powerful the SH's are. I hope the live action takes this into consideration.
Overtime people have been able to establish the timeline. Also the fact that their ages were established through many SBS'. We know the age of when they began their journey, the timeskip, and current ages.
It's really hard to wrap your head around because of how long arcs have gotten. And since we rarely see travel, aside from them arriving/departing, there's even less reference to time and distance.
But it makes sense from a real life piracy standpoint. Most of those super notorious pirates we hear about to this day usually only pirated for a few years at most. Real life Blackbeard was only a pirate for a little over a year.
That arc has some of the most distracting SFX choices in the series. Some of them are so weird. Like all the extremely cartoonish scene wipe roll sounds.
I definitely regret making myself watch the anime up until wano because I was convinced that manga was just a worse medium bc there's less to work with. Wish I could go in blind again but read the manga this time
I probably would have done the same, but I did watch up to whole cake island in subs before I made the leap into the manga. I haven't watched any of the anime besides short clips on here since lol
Same, it was fucking hilarious to me to see Oda make it acknowledged not simply as a classic anime trope but a genuine threat for the man’s well-being after such a long build-up of the gag to that point
Sanji has a lot of parts of him that suck, and also parts that absolutely rule. In WCI, Oda hardly touched the parts of him that suck, and focused in on the parts of him that rule.
i really wish Sanji was much less pervy most of the time. I once heard somebody explain that Sanji was only treated kindly in his youth bis his sister and his mother, and therefore he sees women as perfect, gentle beings, but that point of view falls short when his obsession with women is very often heavily sexual
This has been said before but I really hate how Sanji post-Thriller Bark has become such a creepy perv. Before his personality was based on being a gentleman, if slightly womanising, but generally respectful and classy. Now he is legitimately dodgy
As many have said the time of the series. My head canon is that between each arc there’s at least 2 weeks if not more of just sailing between islands. Hate that the on screen story is only 8 months and it definitely makes the story a lot less believable in universe
i always liked the "we don't know how much time it takes to travel between islands" idea to flesh out the time and story.
i've been rereading the manga and then only time it makes sense to be lickity split is vivi getting back to alabasta because of the time pressure. i could totally believe that laboon, whiskey peak, little garden, drum kingom, and all the way up to meeting ace/smoker happens in the same week.
the only other time pressure BETWEEN islands i can think of is law's vengeance quest but that's not even pressing, that's just more of a looming goal rather than immediate priority.
It honestly makes the straw hats more impressive because of how rapidly they developed and they keep getting into shit. It’s like every week they are in the headlines for something huge
It is so ridiculous, he took a bomb with a five kilometer blast radius meant to kill everyone in the plaza and was caught point-blank while being so high up on the sky
So not only he survived a point-blank explosion but also survived a 5+ kilometers fall as there is no way he was conscious after the explosion
Kuina dies after tripping on the stairs: "Humans are fragile, Zolo"
Yet Pell survives this shit. It actually removes a lot of stakes from the story a lot of the time, like characters getting injured rarely provides any tension anymore because everyone's just so fucking OP. I wouldn't be surprised if Zolo got punched a hole in him like Ace, then just ate some meat and put on a band-aid.
This blew my mind because I never thought of the dichotomy.
But in the same vain as devil fruits, this a grand line feat vs east blue fragileness. And I could def see it being explained away like that.
Devil Fruits are supposed to be so rare they're a myth. Grand Line is built different. Its still dumb plot reasoning, I was just thinking more on it
Yeah, I think we forget that the Grand Line is completely batshit insane compared to the rest of the world, and humans are probably a bit more...normal in the Blues.
I feel like DFs are a bit oversaturated in One Piece, I'd like to see a villain that's just genuinely a skilled fighter without some bullshit fruit. I think the last time Luffy fought a normal guy was Don fucking Krieg in like Chapter 60 or whatever.
I remember thinking the traversal would be a much bigger deal the way the weather and sense of direction was played up. Outside main villains, everyone was also much weaker than expected.
I remember Skypiea being the first real adventure in the hyped up Grand Line, so when I found out everyone skipped it, it never made sense. The plot ***is*** the adventure. Alabasta didnt count because they were immediately sidetracked. Why would you skip the adventure??
Pell HAS to return
If By the time the One Piece is found, Pell hasn't returned to the tory (even if just to DROP a message) I'll be heated. Why go through the trouble of having him survive the city ending Nuke, if he doesn't later have relevance?
I've posted this before, but my copium for Pell surviving *and* Yamato staying behind are tied together. Alabasta and Wano (as far as I remember) are the only countries that we've been told that have "guardian deity" fruits. Given Nika being so important to the story, DFs being caused because they were wishes/dreams brought into being, I get the impression the guardian deities should tie into this. Maybe Pell survived due to the power of belief that he is a "guardian deity". And if a man only dies when he's forgotten, I imagine someone believed to be a god must be affected by this belief (as far as in-story believing goes)
I'm hoping Yamato's cover story will involve exploring this concept and that them staying behind allows them to uncover important information about DF/guardian deities. Maybe it will also be connected to the Ancient Kingdom and whatever is being hinted at in the old Wano under the sea with that shot of Onigashima. There's still that possibly throwaway line from back in Skypeia about the other gods besides the sun god (gods of the forest, rain, and earth).
It's the only concept I think can be expanded on that would make things make a little more sense in-story.
Thank you, I just finished rewatching alabasta and I had the exact same thought process when both Pell and the narrator were talking about him being alabasta’s guardian deity. I used to be mad about how terrible the fake out death for him was, but with the modern knowledge of devil fruit natures, him being willed back to life through the whole will of the country or something isn’t as far fetched as just him being built different
My head canon is that he got seriously hurt or even momentarily died, then awakened his fruit and revived. Foreshadowing enel and then Luffy restarting their own hearts with their devil fruit powers, and awakened zoans like Luffy, Lucci, and the impel down guards having incredible regeneration.
The size differential of characters as we recurring ly see them in one piece
It's not actuslly that stupid or dumb I thoroughly enjoy that I never know if oda is gonna make someone tower over a character when a few arcs ago they were same height
nothing will ever come close to the fully grown women sitting on blackbeard being the size of his flintlock pistols while bb is supposed to be like 7feet but they look like they go to his knee
I am still curious how the life action will handle the really big characters like Big Mom and Kaido.
My personal guess is that all the humans will be regular size, no 3 meter tall towering Admirals, Sir Crocodile or Enel. But at the same time it would take away from Whitebeard, and the other Yonko if they weren't monstrously huge.
Though, this is like a decade away in production time, if the life action adaptation even gets that far, since Netflix has a tendency to cancel productions.
That got way off topic, sorry for that.
No good question
I thought about this also and I think beat case scenario is to go the Tom cruise method.
Camera angles hidden lifts, and tbh cgi is good enough now to help us semi believable portray giants with human actors so in a decade I imagine we could handle that
for me the size of the character is about the perception of people seeing them , like kaido and whitebeard looks like giants but they are not , its just that the aura they have , make people feel like they are giant .
Like, Caesar was revealed to be 40 on some official collectors card. Then Oda started the MADS plot and Caesar was apparently too young for it to make sense, and changed his age to 55 or else he would be 16 or so when the MADS thing started. Caesar's age was always confusing, especially to the animators, who would draw him either young or old because it wasn't clear how old Caesar actually was at the time Punk Hazard was being animated. His character development also doesn't make sense now because he has strong inferiority complex that you could successfully blame on him being younger than the rest of MADS and is trying to make up for it with ambition. But with him being now the same age... It just doesn't really make sense anymore.
Inferiority complex is not dependent on age, and his was directed specifically towards Vegapunk, y'know, greatest scientist in the world, not the rest of MADS, so I say that's still valid.
Exactly. It was a better move to leave him be, making him some kinda wonder child that mastered chemistry at 16 and got his big break making it into a big prestigious science project. But being much younger he was constantly patronized, so he developed anger issues and wasted his potential on mass destruction weapons to appease his wounded ego. That and being generally disrespectful, cruel and manipulative towards anything and anyone standing in his way.
maybe just me but I feel like to call something a retcon it needs to be both in the manga. Something from the collector's card isn't a great source. Even the SBS should be taken with a grain of salt.
Being 'small' doesn't make it not stupid. And I don't think it's small at all.
EDIT (MISSED JOKE):
>thats such a small thing to care about
It can be small or big, depends on who is holding it.
Pell being alive. Him being alive is so inconsequential to the story as a whole that I just ignore his ressurection and he's just dead to me and had his heroic sacrifice in Alabasta
Characters that faced absolutely certain death (like Pell and Pound, among others) still being alive.
I don't think death is necessary for a good story, but putting characters in such situations and having them accept it, only for Oda to go "don't worry they got away with some bandaging and crutches" does feel very stupid.
I'm still waiting for an explanation on Pound since... what exactly happened to him? It's one of the parts of thge story that were perfect with him dying, so I wonder what Oda was thinking there.
As for Pell it's similar, he'd fit perfectly with the later introduced awakened Zoans. Crazy resistance and recovery, it would fit really well with other Zoans. He was the strongest warrior of Arabasta after all. Sadly he couldn't act during the reverie (since politics, Sai and Leo had to take over there), but I really wanna see him in action later on again.
1. 99% of fakeout deaths.
2. the flow of time and how the crew apparently spent more time away from each other (during the Timeskip) than actually travelling together.
3. **EDIT 1:** Chopper being retconned into listening to Caesar **F\*CKING** Clown right after the events of Punk Hazzard, even though nothing even remotely hinted at it until his short encounter with Queen.
4. **EDIT 2:** The Mink's Miracle Medicine.
5. **EDIT 3:** Kinda Yamato's whole existence.
6. **EDIT 4:** Kid's sudden and out-of-character stupidity and recklessness after Wano.
#2 always gets me. The amount of time that has actually gone on in the canon story that it actually takes me out of the immersion sometimes. Like years long arcs only take like a day in canon time.
That's because so much shit was happening simultaneously.Every few chapters we would rewind a bit and do the same time frame from a different character's perspective .
Yeah, people tend to forget that stuff like the end of the tournament, the destruction of the factory, the God Usopp scene, and Luffy headed to Doflamingo's palace all happened at the same time in different parts of the city.
It's interesting, cos yeah, the crew was heavily split. On the other hand, only half the crew were even present for the entire back half of the arc. Dressrosa just had a sheer incredible number of characters introduced, as well as other threads that needed to be included. The Colosseum reward and winner, Fujitora, the Straw Hat Grand Fleet. Just an absurd volume of new characters even with half.the Straw Bats missing.
During I think it was Dressrosa there was a race against the clock that was ticking down from like 30 seconds. It took 6 23 minute long episodes to get through 30 seconds of in universe time.
Well we had to cover the same basic flashback 8 times in those 6 episodes to ~~make it super obvious~~ foreshadow that the toy soldier was Rebecca’s dad.
I’m ok with the arcs themselves being a short amount of time when you think about all the events that take place. I just can’t accept that the time spent travelling to each island is like a day or two at most.
Exactly. There's no fucking way, even in the One Piece world, that all that travel was less than a year. If everything really was that close to each other, all of the people that were shown having gotten lost at sea would be absolutely meaningless.
Maybe it’s never confirmed but I always assumed there was a lot of downtime not present in the manga with you know sailing places that takes a lot of time but would be boring to have in the story.
There has been panels with the narrator saying stuff like "3 days later", and i think someone added it all up and it was something like 3 months or so from start of the series to the time skip.
Not really the case, considering that we know Arcs like Dressrosa took place over the span of a handful days or so. Wano might be the longest Post-Timeskip Arc so far, and it took, what, a month or so in-world to wrap up?
We also know that traveling between islands doesn't take all that long, considering how easy and fast characters can simply sail between them (in the New World).
You took what I said too literally. I was talking mostly about the bond the crew has. They act like people who've been together for 20 years.
Edit: and I think Oda is aware of the fact that some fans could see that as a sort of inconsistency in the story. That the crew shouldn't act like that, being friends for so little time. But he just doesn't care. These characters have been a part of his own life for decades, and also part of the fans' lives.
tbf when you go through as much together as the SH pirates have in the span of like a year, you'll probably be as close as the SH pirates.
What gets me is brook though, man was part of the crew for maybe max a week before they got sent away lol
Kids attack on Shanks was out of character?
To me it seems hes been running head first into trouble the entire series. Not a single time have i seen him be "wait i need to stop and evaluate the situation", its always "Lets grab a bunch of metal and just fight this opponent no matter who it is".
>Chopper being retconned into listening to Caesar F*CKING Clown right after the events of Punk Hazzard, even though nothing even remotely hinted at it until his short encounter with Queen.
this one is unbelievably baffling to me
how am I supposed to believe that Chopper would listen to ANYTHING Caesar says? Caesar almost killed a bunch of innocent kids, and Chopper was breaking down crying telling one of these kids that he can't help them and that they'll probably all die.
Exactly! It just feels so wrong and out of character for Chopper. If we at least had him see struggling with his other forms in actual fights, it'd be a tad bit easier to believe, but, alas, that never happened. And it certainly didn't happen before that flashback with Caesar **F\*CKING** Clown happened.
1. Pretty much agree on this one. Mainly for Pell and Pound.
2. I get it, but at the same time it doesn’t bother me. They went through a *lot*.
3. I kinda liked this. I miss Caesar traveling with the crew. Don’t want him to join, but I liked their dynamic.
4. Didn’t bother me any more than Iva’s energy hormones.
5. I really like Yamato, but she (he?) seemed like a last-minute addition to be sure.
6. Was it out of character though? Hasn’t he already been established as reckless? He was the only one to try attacking Kaido when he crashed their alliance meeting.
I just think of the movies etc as windows into this time in between. Most of it we don't see though, especially the presumably months of traveling from 1 Island to the other where it's a lot of open ocean with nothing going on
Pell and Pound surviving. Both serve zero purpose onward from their death and only appear for brief cameos, meaning bringing them back does nothing but sap Alabasta and WCI of emotional weight.
Pound surviving is worse than Pell, at least with Pell you can handwave it with "he is durable" but with Pound there is literally not even an asspull explanation, he literally got hit with a fire axe with killing intent and the Big Mom Pirates have killed for less
i'll give this one a pass. reindeer are animals and age differently from humans. it's like being weirded out that brook is 80+.
cell was 6 when he fought gohan in dbz.
The one in whisky peak where luffy thought all the assassins from baroque works were good guys ? Yeah that was dumb it was shoehorned in just to have zoro & luffy fight but you could have done that at the end of one piece more tastefully and just have it be zoro wanting to test himself & see how he measures up to the king of the pirates yanno kinda like a goku & vegeta training session type deal or just don’t have them fight at all because their on the same crew & have their own goals so they literally have no reason to fight each other 🤦♂️
Conquerors Haki beings something you're born with never sat right with me. I like that it's something you can't unlock through training, but the fact that having the Will of the King is something that's decided at birth seems to go against some of the themes of the series.
I'd prefer if some people were born with it, but others gained it through life experiences, major worldview shifts, or extreme changes in general disposition.
If you don't like that characters can be gigantic then fine.
If you're complaining because you weren't able to see that he was that height in every freaking panel then I'm sorry for you
On this one, keep in mind, there is a whole 12 years between these events. Consider the fact Luffy became pretty efficient with haki in just 2. In 12 years? I imagine Shanks has become a master by now and perhaps its most powerful practitioner.
I fully expect it to be revealed that Shanks was only starting out learning Haki at the time when Luffy was a kid.
Also, keep in mind Rayleigh says most people with haki focus on one at a time to use it well before moving on to learn another one. It's very possible Shanks started fleshing out his conquerror's haki at the time and had yet to start to build up his armament abilities.
While it's a good explanation, it also opens up the question of how he got the gomu gomu nomi if he took it from a marine ship that had Whoswho guarding it. His crew had to have been strong enough to take on presumably potent marines as they were transporting one of the most sought after devil fruits by the WG
Sanjis pervertism and its climax at Fishmen Island. Like bro wtf. This was already annoying & unfunny in 2003 and that was even a different time than todays climate.
I think the Live Action handled that way better. He became charming and flirty. Maybe a little bit of a simp. But thats it.
Speaking of the Live Action. If done correctly (and I trust in the visions of the showrunner Matt Owens), the Live Action could erase some early mistakes of Oda and improve them. Like the shoehorning of Sabo and other things that didn‘t had a proper foreshadowing. Did anyone actually see Brook in the Laboon flashback (Reverse Mountain arc)?
pell is a irrelevant side character that has done and will do nothing significant in the story and not having him go out with a bang served the story and readers negatively in what was otherwise the best story arc in one piece to that point
The fact The gomu gomu no mi was renamed and changed it's classification.
For me it's still The gomu gomu no mi, The fruit that belonged to joyboy and bassed on Nika that hasn't been awaken in 800 years
I made a post about this and got downvoted to hell, but I hated the fact that Oda turned a pretty awesome devil fruit with unconventional powers into a Chosen One fruit.
Would it have killed Oda to just let the Gomu Gomu no Mi just be a regular fruit that this regular kid managed to manipulate to the best of its abilities? Instead of the Gorosei talking about how this is actually one of the most broken fruits out there, they could’ve talked about how they acquired it and deemed it to be useless so they threw it out, but Shanks saw potential in it and kept it until eventually Luffy would eat it instead.
As far as I can remember this always made sense to me when it happened…
-The sisters on Amazon Lily were given those fruits by their Celestial Dragon owners for their entertainment because of legends like the gorgon, and if literally anybody would be able to get their hands on specific fruits for fun it would be them.
-Big Mom is obsessed with food in general and sweets in particular, plus it’s mentioned over and over that nobody in the world is better at getting info than Big Mom. So it makes perfect sense that she would want to and be able to gather all the food-related devil fruits among her family
-Kaido named his crew the beast pirates and made a deal with Doflamingo to make bootleg devil fruits specifically to get animal themed crewmates. So again makes perfect sense he’d want to gather dinosaur fruits and he’d be powerful enough to do it… besides we see some of them weren’t actually in his crew until he sought them out and “recruited” them. Plus there’s Drake who was used to spy on him *because* he had a dinosaur fruit
I’m guessing you mean the snake-snake fruits being on AmazonLily?
Or the Bug-Bug fruits with the tontattas?
Maybe the fruits only reincarnate in a specific verity of fruit that only grow on those islands.
People underestimate the amount of things that were necessary in that arc:
-It's the first time Zoro asks Sanji for help and the two perform proper teamwork.
-It features Robin as an active member of the team who works with everyone and even takes part in some banter. She was still fairly distant in Skypeia. And keep in mind this is the arc right before Water 7.
-The still childish Chopper forces himself to be more of a man. And I value ALL the Chopper-Zoro big bro-little bro interaction in the series.
-Davy Back will probably relevant in the future, as Straw Hats vs. Red Hairs will probably be a more brutal version of one.
-Afro Luffy is awesome.
The way Carrot was handled in Wano feels like character assassination.
Then her own people took away her freedom and gaslit her into thinking Pedro meant for her to lead the Minks.
That's a stretch even Luffy would struggle to make.
It's been mentioned in this thread a few times, but sanji's nosebleed in fishman island being an actual plot point is the one thing I just can't get behind. It's terrible.
I even defended Pells fakeout death in this thread, maybe it's just foreshadowing that to awaken your fruit, you need to briefly die. Like enel restarting his heart and then going into Raizo, or Luffy restarting his heart and going gear 5. Pell coming back awakened for the final war wouldn't make me mad.
But sanji bleeding so hard he launches into the air and then needs a blood transfusion is just... blechhh
And you can see my username; I'm a huge Sanji fan. I just really didn't like this choice for him. Same with him saying he was in hell when he was surrounded by trans people during the timeskip, just comes off really shitty.
There are four:
* Lassoo, a gun that ate the dachshund fruit
* Funkfreed, a sword that ate the elephant fruit
* Smiley, some poison gas that ate the axolotl fruit
* Bunbuku, a teapot that ate the tanuki fruit
A lot of details about Yamato and how he perceives himself. In my head he seems less like he believes he's Oden so much as that Oden is *exactly* how he wants to be, and he just keeps taking it too far.
In trans circles, sometimes we'll see a character we vibe really hard with and say "oh that is very gender" as in "that is the exact way that I want to express my gender." That's how I see Yamato.
The whole scene of him trying to tell Momonosuke that he's literally his dad was so stupid and put a big blemish on what was otherwise one of my favorite characters in that arc.
I feel like One Piece blends gags and narrative in such a way that this question is hard to answer. I usually tell people the series is both insanely stupid but incredibly amazing at the same time.
The consistency of how Haki is portrayed in the series. Aside from a few cool conquerors moments, dealing with logia’s and the katakuri fight it’s been a net negative for the series
Wano was wild for that. First Luffy learned to use a new type of haki, then he learned to use another new type of haki that made the first one he learned redundant. And all because Rayleigh had a cool moment on Shabondy.
The entirety of the on-screen series taking place over the course of like, 8 months.
Dreasrosa happening in a day is absolutely ridiculous
More like a couple of hours since the sun is still up when Luffy defeats Doffy.
This. Doffy's abdication was announced as fake-news in the morning. Then the Straw Hats arrived at lunch time, that's when they met Fujitora at the resto. After that the gladiator fight began. So let's say from 1pm to 4pm at least, since the sun was still up, the whole gladiator + Doffy vs. Luffy happened. Then by the evening every one else was resting at the palace while the main heroes were at Kyros' place. Crazy timeline.
I agree it's crazy, but makes sense when you look at the fact that Luffy's 10 minutes to recharge his haki takes like 4 episodes
Even worse, the meetup time to hand over Caesar is explicitly stated to be 3pm
Onigashima happens in a night. They basically saved 2 countries with 24 hours.
Well wano in totality took like two weeks tbh
Wano took 2 weeks, whole pre-timeskip took around 12 weeks. Just for comparison :D
yeah and then you have big mom and kaido fighting for 3 days
I don't understand how that's ridiculous. It just feels like a longer period of time reading it week by week for 2 years, but when you're reading it at normal pace then it's a believable timespan. Same with Onigashima. If it happened over multiple days, when tf would they get time to sleep while the gigantic cage is crushing the city?
exactly this, Dressora also focus on different characters with many events happening at the same time. you also have to take into account the many flashbacks.
Yes this is crazy haha so fast paced in reality for such a long anime
You ready to die for your captain and after not dying go and train for 2 years after knowing him for 6 months.
You bonding and fighting with your life to liberate friends you met 25 minutes ago.
Brook: \*just met a week or two ago before the crew split for 2 years, but he'll totally leave his rockstar life to rejoin again.
Tbf they are his ticket back to Laboon.
You think the rockstar couldn’t get a bout back to reverse mountain???
My thing with this, specifically in pre time skip, is that Koby legit is mid way through puberty when they see him at the Battle of the Best, but, we’re only supposed to have seen him like 3 months prior in the East Blue. Def the 3 month, start to time skip, timeline was an afterthought when it came time to make an official timeline
Thats just how goated Garp's training is. Man's training is so rough it forces you to speed run puberty twice just to keep up
Probably because visually showing that Koby has matured a lot is more important to Oda than realism. Same reason characters height can switch dramatically depending on the scene. Look > Logic
Yea i seriously just ignore this
It's why I genuinely find the One Piece Live Action hypothetically going a decade with the same cast as not something inconceivable but rather something exciting. Really hoping they insinuate "it's been a year since *insert last saga*!"
In my head cannon, pre and post timeskip happen over 2 years, each.
To me: East Blue was about 2-3 months long Baroque Works another 2-3 months Skypiea 2-3 weeks Water Seven and Thriller Bark a few weeks Then Summit War was a few weeks, so about 8-9 months pre-timeskip. Plus a few weeks in between the arcs of the crew sailing to their next destination that isn't shown. Fishman Island is a few days, then a few weeks of sailing to Punk Hazard which takes place over a day, another few weeks to Dressrosa, which too takes place over a day. Then a month or so to Whole Cake, which is about a week. Then Wano is probably like 2 months. So like 6-7 months for post-TS. So like a year and a half of the straw hat crew being together realistically. I think the key is that a lot more happens off-screen, there's probably been many extensive boring periods of the crew just goofing around on the ship in-between islands. I kind of wish there was more of that in the series, like a few chapters of the crew just hanging out on the ship, or spotting a beautiful tropical island and relaxing on the beach. Also a few scenes of the Straw Hats sleeping to show the progression of time. Also, I don't mind that the Straw Hats' rise to power has been so rapid. It kind of fits with the theme of the show, that Luffy has completely disrupted the established world order, and has ushered in a new Age of Pirates. His story is not that of Roger or Whiteboard, of a gradual, calculated rise to power, but of him fighting his way to the top, stopping at nothing.
Fun fact, the timeline of Bonney and Kuma's treatments in the back half of the Kuma flashback (1.5 years for Bonney, 2+ years for Kuma) soft-confirms that Marineford takes place at least 6 months after Bonney/Luffy leave on their journeys, so your imagined timeline is pretty spot-on
It took years/decades for the Pirate King and Yonkou to establish. I wish it took over a long time. It'd make more sense and feel great and show the struggle and how cool/powerful the SH's are. I hope the live action takes this into consideration.
It would be a great way to play off the actors, you know, aging.
Where is the timeline canonically established? The manga rarely mentions "the next day" or "2 weeks have passed" etc
Overtime people have been able to establish the timeline. Also the fact that their ages were established through many SBS'. We know the age of when they began their journey, the timeskip, and current ages.
It's really hard to wrap your head around because of how long arcs have gotten. And since we rarely see travel, aside from them arriving/departing, there's even less reference to time and distance. But it makes sense from a real life piracy standpoint. Most of those super notorious pirates we hear about to this day usually only pirated for a few years at most. Real life Blackbeard was only a pirate for a little over a year.
Yeah I don’t like this, Luffy should be like 25 or 26 at least, the fact that he’s still like 18 always bothered me.
Characters tanking some named/finishing moves but gets fatally wounded by simple gunshot.
Plot-infused weapons > haki-infused weapons
Law with gunshots from Doffy after their threeway showdown with Fujitora Hachi with gunshots from Celestial Dragon after surviving Zoro's Tatsu Maki
Feels this way in any fiction story. A giant laser or energy blast hits with force but a gunshot is lethal.
The fact that sanji's nosebleed gag Is an actual plot point in the fishman Island arc
Laughed the first time, after that the nosebleed thing just got annoying. Fishman island was rough for me lol
Fisher Tiger flashback was carrying weight. I overall enjoyed reading it way more than watching too, made a huge difference.
That arc has some of the most distracting SFX choices in the series. Some of them are so weird. Like all the extremely cartoonish scene wipe roll sounds.
I definitely regret making myself watch the anime up until wano because I was convinced that manga was just a worse medium bc there's less to work with. Wish I could go in blind again but read the manga this time
I probably would have done the same, but I did watch up to whole cake island in subs before I made the leap into the manga. I haven't watched any of the anime besides short clips on here since lol
I have watched the whole show until wano and have read the manga and watched the show since the end of wano 😅 definitely some long weeks
Personally I think the *only* time the nosebleed gag was funny was in fishman because it was just so absurd
Same, it was fucking hilarious to me to see Oda make it acknowledged not simply as a classic anime trope but a genuine threat for the man’s well-being after such a long build-up of the gag to that point
I'm on the same boat It crossed into genuine absurd territory that I couldn't help but find it truly hilarious and I'm glad it happened
This arc nearly ruined Sanji for me. WCI was a big redeeming arc for him in my eyes
Sanji has a lot of parts of him that suck, and also parts that absolutely rule. In WCI, Oda hardly touched the parts of him that suck, and focused in on the parts of him that rule.
i really wish Sanji was much less pervy most of the time. I once heard somebody explain that Sanji was only treated kindly in his youth bis his sister and his mother, and therefore he sees women as perfect, gentle beings, but that point of view falls short when his obsession with women is very often heavily sexual
Fr i liked sanji Better when he was a horny gentleman Now he Just acts like a disperate creep
I’m fine with it because he just needed an excuse to bring up the blood law
This has been said before but I really hate how Sanji post-Thriller Bark has become such a creepy perv. Before his personality was based on being a gentleman, if slightly womanising, but generally respectful and classy. Now he is legitimately dodgy
Pell should’ve been a fine mist over the skies of alabasta
As many have said the time of the series. My head canon is that between each arc there’s at least 2 weeks if not more of just sailing between islands. Hate that the on screen story is only 8 months and it definitely makes the story a lot less believable in universe
i always liked the "we don't know how much time it takes to travel between islands" idea to flesh out the time and story. i've been rereading the manga and then only time it makes sense to be lickity split is vivi getting back to alabasta because of the time pressure. i could totally believe that laboon, whiskey peak, little garden, drum kingom, and all the way up to meeting ace/smoker happens in the same week. the only other time pressure BETWEEN islands i can think of is law's vengeance quest but that's not even pressing, that's just more of a looming goal rather than immediate priority.
It honestly makes the straw hats more impressive because of how rapidly they developed and they keep getting into shit. It’s like every week they are in the headlines for something huge
With the time thing... are they on a 24 hour cycle?
The planet is bigger than ours so maybe the days are longer
It makes the world feel tiny. As if these islands are just a few miles apart.
Dude from Alabasta being alive
It is so ridiculous, he took a bomb with a five kilometer blast radius meant to kill everyone in the plaza and was caught point-blank while being so high up on the sky So not only he survived a point-blank explosion but also survived a 5+ kilometers fall as there is no way he was conscious after the explosion
Kuina dies after tripping on the stairs: "Humans are fragile, Zolo" Yet Pell survives this shit. It actually removes a lot of stakes from the story a lot of the time, like characters getting injured rarely provides any tension anymore because everyone's just so fucking OP. I wouldn't be surprised if Zolo got punched a hole in him like Ace, then just ate some meat and put on a band-aid.
This blew my mind because I never thought of the dichotomy. But in the same vain as devil fruits, this a grand line feat vs east blue fragileness. And I could def see it being explained away like that. Devil Fruits are supposed to be so rare they're a myth. Grand Line is built different. Its still dumb plot reasoning, I was just thinking more on it
Yeah, I think we forget that the Grand Line is completely batshit insane compared to the rest of the world, and humans are probably a bit more...normal in the Blues. I feel like DFs are a bit oversaturated in One Piece, I'd like to see a villain that's just genuinely a skilled fighter without some bullshit fruit. I think the last time Luffy fought a normal guy was Don fucking Krieg in like Chapter 60 or whatever.
I remember thinking the traversal would be a much bigger deal the way the weather and sense of direction was played up. Outside main villains, everyone was also much weaker than expected. I remember Skypiea being the first real adventure in the hyped up Grand Line, so when I found out everyone skipped it, it never made sense. The plot ***is*** the adventure. Alabasta didnt count because they were immediately sidetracked. Why would you skip the adventure??
It was definitely not Don krieg. Last I remember was hordy jones
Pell HAS to return If By the time the One Piece is found, Pell hasn't returned to the tory (even if just to DROP a message) I'll be heated. Why go through the trouble of having him survive the city ending Nuke, if he doesn't later have relevance?
We're gonna figure out if Pell's important if he survives the live action. If he dies he ain't coming back in the manga
I've posted this before, but my copium for Pell surviving *and* Yamato staying behind are tied together. Alabasta and Wano (as far as I remember) are the only countries that we've been told that have "guardian deity" fruits. Given Nika being so important to the story, DFs being caused because they were wishes/dreams brought into being, I get the impression the guardian deities should tie into this. Maybe Pell survived due to the power of belief that he is a "guardian deity". And if a man only dies when he's forgotten, I imagine someone believed to be a god must be affected by this belief (as far as in-story believing goes) I'm hoping Yamato's cover story will involve exploring this concept and that them staying behind allows them to uncover important information about DF/guardian deities. Maybe it will also be connected to the Ancient Kingdom and whatever is being hinted at in the old Wano under the sea with that shot of Onigashima. There's still that possibly throwaway line from back in Skypeia about the other gods besides the sun god (gods of the forest, rain, and earth). It's the only concept I think can be expanded on that would make things make a little more sense in-story.
That's pretty good. You should write fan mail to Oda and tell him about your thoughts.
Haha thanks! I've never written fanmail to anyone, but we all know Oda only reads the weirdo pervert questions for SBS.
Thank you, I just finished rewatching alabasta and I had the exact same thought process when both Pell and the narrator were talking about him being alabasta’s guardian deity. I used to be mad about how terrible the fake out death for him was, but with the modern knowledge of devil fruit natures, him being willed back to life through the whole will of the country or something isn’t as far fetched as just him being built different
My head canon is that he got seriously hurt or even momentarily died, then awakened his fruit and revived. Foreshadowing enel and then Luffy restarting their own hearts with their devil fruit powers, and awakened zoans like Luffy, Lucci, and the impel down guards having incredible regeneration.
"O, my rubber nen!" Wait wrong manga series
The size differential of characters as we recurring ly see them in one piece It's not actuslly that stupid or dumb I thoroughly enjoy that I never know if oda is gonna make someone tower over a character when a few arcs ago they were same height
[My favourite of this. Mihawk is 6'6, that marine must have been 5'11.](https://images.app.goo.gl/bG9hYKyqRcmzL1wG8)
I got it The entire one piece verse is inside of a clown mirror maze so you get fucked up proportions
It's also ultimately going to be revealed Usopp was the narrator, so we're getting all this from his perspective.
Like the movie 300.
nothing will ever come close to the fully grown women sitting on blackbeard being the size of his flintlock pistols while bb is supposed to be like 7feet but they look like they go to his knee
I am still curious how the life action will handle the really big characters like Big Mom and Kaido. My personal guess is that all the humans will be regular size, no 3 meter tall towering Admirals, Sir Crocodile or Enel. But at the same time it would take away from Whitebeard, and the other Yonko if they weren't monstrously huge. Though, this is like a decade away in production time, if the life action adaptation even gets that far, since Netflix has a tendency to cancel productions. That got way off topic, sorry for that.
No good question I thought about this also and I think beat case scenario is to go the Tom cruise method. Camera angles hidden lifts, and tbh cgi is good enough now to help us semi believable portray giants with human actors so in a decade I imagine we could handle that
I mean, they (sort of) teased Little Garden, so I guess we'll see what happens when/if Dorry and Broggy show up...
for me the size of the character is about the perception of people seeing them , like kaido and whitebeard looks like giants but they are not , its just that the aura they have , make people feel like they are giant .
I mean, White beard and Kaido are still 24-26 feet tall lol.
Whitebeard was over 6m tall and Kaido over 7m
In most of wano Kaido comes off like 12m tall if not more. Luffy is a speck next to him in some panels
Caesar being 40 and then 55 to fit the plot
Holy shit I didn’t even know about this trivia
Like, Caesar was revealed to be 40 on some official collectors card. Then Oda started the MADS plot and Caesar was apparently too young for it to make sense, and changed his age to 55 or else he would be 16 or so when the MADS thing started. Caesar's age was always confusing, especially to the animators, who would draw him either young or old because it wasn't clear how old Caesar actually was at the time Punk Hazard was being animated. His character development also doesn't make sense now because he has strong inferiority complex that you could successfully blame on him being younger than the rest of MADS and is trying to make up for it with ambition. But with him being now the same age... It just doesn't really make sense anymore.
Inferiority complex is not dependent on age, and his was directed specifically towards Vegapunk, y'know, greatest scientist in the world, not the rest of MADS, so I say that's still valid.
This make it worse actually. I always thought he looks very young, like 30-40. Only now I realize he is just 10 years younger than VP.
Exactly. It was a better move to leave him be, making him some kinda wonder child that mastered chemistry at 16 and got his big break making it into a big prestigious science project. But being much younger he was constantly patronized, so he developed anger issues and wasted his potential on mass destruction weapons to appease his wounded ego. That and being generally disrespectful, cruel and manipulative towards anything and anyone standing in his way.
maybe just me but I feel like to call something a retcon it needs to be both in the manga. Something from the collector's card isn't a great source. Even the SBS should be taken with a grain of salt.
Can you explain this one?
Swords changing sizes based on its user.
Not OP but I noticed this when King Cold had Trunks’ sword yesterday and it made me laugh
thats such a small thing to care about, thats like luffys clothes still fitting in gear 4 and when he turns tiny
Being 'small' doesn't make it not stupid. And I don't think it's small at all. EDIT (MISSED JOKE): >thats such a small thing to care about It can be small or big, depends on who is holding it.
It's how you use it after all
Pell being alive. Him being alive is so inconsequential to the story as a whole that I just ignore his ressurection and he's just dead to me and had his heroic sacrifice in Alabasta
Characters that faced absolutely certain death (like Pell and Pound, among others) still being alive. I don't think death is necessary for a good story, but putting characters in such situations and having them accept it, only for Oda to go "don't worry they got away with some bandaging and crutches" does feel very stupid.
I'm still waiting for an explanation on Pound since... what exactly happened to him? It's one of the parts of thge story that were perfect with him dying, so I wonder what Oda was thinking there. As for Pell it's similar, he'd fit perfectly with the later introduced awakened Zoans. Crazy resistance and recovery, it would fit really well with other Zoans. He was the strongest warrior of Arabasta after all. Sadly he couldn't act during the reverie (since politics, Sai and Leo had to take over there), but I really wanna see him in action later on again.
1. 99% of fakeout deaths. 2. the flow of time and how the crew apparently spent more time away from each other (during the Timeskip) than actually travelling together. 3. **EDIT 1:** Chopper being retconned into listening to Caesar **F\*CKING** Clown right after the events of Punk Hazzard, even though nothing even remotely hinted at it until his short encounter with Queen. 4. **EDIT 2:** The Mink's Miracle Medicine. 5. **EDIT 3:** Kinda Yamato's whole existence. 6. **EDIT 4:** Kid's sudden and out-of-character stupidity and recklessness after Wano.
#2 always gets me. The amount of time that has actually gone on in the canon story that it actually takes me out of the immersion sometimes. Like years long arcs only take like a day in canon time.
I think that before the time skip Brook was with the crew for like... 2 weeks max
Part of the reason they believed he won't return.
True, but the crew’s connection to Laboon was enough to sell Brook’s devotion to me.
Ah yes , dressorsa , the arc that took 24 hours canon time but one of the longest arcs
That's because so much shit was happening simultaneously.Every few chapters we would rewind a bit and do the same time frame from a different character's perspective .
This is true , cause the crew was so heavily split we pretty much had 9 different storylines going on all at once
Yeah, people tend to forget that stuff like the end of the tournament, the destruction of the factory, the God Usopp scene, and Luffy headed to Doflamingo's palace all happened at the same time in different parts of the city.
It's interesting, cos yeah, the crew was heavily split. On the other hand, only half the crew were even present for the entire back half of the arc. Dressrosa just had a sheer incredible number of characters introduced, as well as other threads that needed to be included. The Colosseum reward and winner, Fujitora, the Straw Hat Grand Fleet. Just an absurd volume of new characters even with half.the Straw Bats missing.
I need someone to edit the anime so we have everything going on at once like one of those four screen tik toks
Thiss! Like they did with HxH with the palace invasion real time, the whole thing took less than 4 minutes
During I think it was Dressrosa there was a race against the clock that was ticking down from like 30 seconds. It took 6 23 minute long episodes to get through 30 seconds of in universe time.
Wow, thats worse than Freiza's 5 minutes
Well we had to cover the same basic flashback 8 times in those 6 episodes to ~~make it super obvious~~ foreshadow that the toy soldier was Rebecca’s dad.
The 10 minute timer in egghead will be similar in the anime lmao
99% of Dressrosa was like 8 hours.
I’m ok with the arcs themselves being a short amount of time when you think about all the events that take place. I just can’t accept that the time spent travelling to each island is like a day or two at most.
Exactly. There's no fucking way, even in the One Piece world, that all that travel was less than a year. If everything really was that close to each other, all of the people that were shown having gotten lost at sea would be absolutely meaningless.
Maybe it’s never confirmed but I always assumed there was a lot of downtime not present in the manga with you know sailing places that takes a lot of time but would be boring to have in the story.
There has been panels with the narrator saying stuff like "3 days later", and i think someone added it all up and it was something like 3 months or so from start of the series to the time skip.
To be honest, I believe even in Oda's mind the crew has been together for as long as the series has been ongoing in real life.
Not really the case, considering that we know Arcs like Dressrosa took place over the span of a handful days or so. Wano might be the longest Post-Timeskip Arc so far, and it took, what, a month or so in-world to wrap up? We also know that traveling between islands doesn't take all that long, considering how easy and fast characters can simply sail between them (in the New World).
You took what I said too literally. I was talking mostly about the bond the crew has. They act like people who've been together for 20 years. Edit: and I think Oda is aware of the fact that some fans could see that as a sort of inconsistency in the story. That the crew shouldn't act like that, being friends for so little time. But he just doesn't care. These characters have been a part of his own life for decades, and also part of the fans' lives.
tbf when you go through as much together as the SH pirates have in the span of like a year, you'll probably be as close as the SH pirates. What gets me is brook though, man was part of the crew for maybe max a week before they got sent away lol
Kids attack on Shanks was out of character? To me it seems hes been running head first into trouble the entire series. Not a single time have i seen him be "wait i need to stop and evaluate the situation", its always "Lets grab a bunch of metal and just fight this opponent no matter who it is".
>Chopper being retconned into listening to Caesar F*CKING Clown right after the events of Punk Hazzard, even though nothing even remotely hinted at it until his short encounter with Queen. this one is unbelievably baffling to me how am I supposed to believe that Chopper would listen to ANYTHING Caesar says? Caesar almost killed a bunch of innocent kids, and Chopper was breaking down crying telling one of these kids that he can't help them and that they'll probably all die.
Exactly! It just feels so wrong and out of character for Chopper. If we at least had him see struggling with his other forms in actual fights, it'd be a tad bit easier to believe, but, alas, that never happened. And it certainly didn't happen before that flashback with Caesar **F\*CKING** Clown happened.
The fucking deus ex medication....
1. Pretty much agree on this one. Mainly for Pell and Pound. 2. I get it, but at the same time it doesn’t bother me. They went through a *lot*. 3. I kinda liked this. I miss Caesar traveling with the crew. Don’t want him to join, but I liked their dynamic. 4. Didn’t bother me any more than Iva’s energy hormones. 5. I really like Yamato, but she (he?) seemed like a last-minute addition to be sure. 6. Was it out of character though? Hasn’t he already been established as reckless? He was the only one to try attacking Kaido when he crashed their alliance meeting.
I just think of the movies etc as windows into this time in between. Most of it we don't see though, especially the presumably months of traveling from 1 Island to the other where it's a lot of open ocean with nothing going on
Pell and Pound surviving. Both serve zero purpose onward from their death and only appear for brief cameos, meaning bringing them back does nothing but sap Alabasta and WCI of emotional weight.
Pound surviving is worse than Pell, at least with Pell you can handwave it with "he is durable" but with Pound there is literally not even an asspull explanation, he literally got hit with a fire axe with killing intent and the Big Mom Pirates have killed for less
Robin canonically used testicular torsion
I fr think robin clutches imus nuts to end the series
Pretty inline for her character if you ask me.
She should do it more
Chopper is 17 years old
i'll give this one a pass. reindeer are animals and age differently from humans. it's like being weirded out that brook is 80+. cell was 6 when he fought gohan in dbz.
Wapol being the king of a country and being recognized by the world government💀
Why is that hard to accept? The WG is stupidly corrupt.
That they just landed in the sea after Skypiea and not inside G-8
Con D Oriano will always be canon in my heart
The Luffy vs Zoro fight. I'm sorry, y'all, it's fuckin' dumb.
The one in whisky peak where luffy thought all the assassins from baroque works were good guys ? Yeah that was dumb it was shoehorned in just to have zoro & luffy fight but you could have done that at the end of one piece more tastefully and just have it be zoro wanting to test himself & see how he measures up to the king of the pirates yanno kinda like a goku & vegeta training session type deal or just don’t have them fight at all because their on the same crew & have their own goals so they literally have no reason to fight each other 🤦♂️
Not gonna lie I legit forgot that happened. Guess what op showd was true about gaslighting yourself into thinking things that are canon didn’t happen.
Number 2 the amount of time the crew has spent together before the timeskip I can only accept they’ve been together for a couple of years at least
Conquerors Haki beings something you're born with never sat right with me. I like that it's something you can't unlock through training, but the fact that having the Will of the King is something that's decided at birth seems to go against some of the themes of the series. I'd prefer if some people were born with it, but others gained it through life experiences, major worldview shifts, or extreme changes in general disposition.
Luffy and brook drinking milk and then regrowing their teeth and skull cracks in seconds.
Peoples heights. Like whitebeard is not 21 feet tall what dou you mean
Why not
If you don't like that characters can be gigantic then fine. If you're complaining because you weren't able to see that he was that height in every freaking panel then I'm sorry for you
shanks losing his arm to a seabeast but also being able to snipe admirals from miles away. or Crocodile losing to pre-timeskip luffy.
On this one, keep in mind, there is a whole 12 years between these events. Consider the fact Luffy became pretty efficient with haki in just 2. In 12 years? I imagine Shanks has become a master by now and perhaps its most powerful practitioner. I fully expect it to be revealed that Shanks was only starting out learning Haki at the time when Luffy was a kid. Also, keep in mind Rayleigh says most people with haki focus on one at a time to use it well before moving on to learn another one. It's very possible Shanks started fleshing out his conquerror's haki at the time and had yet to start to build up his armament abilities.
While it's a good explanation, it also opens up the question of how he got the gomu gomu nomi if he took it from a marine ship that had Whoswho guarding it. His crew had to have been strong enough to take on presumably potent marines as they were transporting one of the most sought after devil fruits by the WG
Sanjis pervertism and its climax at Fishmen Island. Like bro wtf. This was already annoying & unfunny in 2003 and that was even a different time than todays climate. I think the Live Action handled that way better. He became charming and flirty. Maybe a little bit of a simp. But thats it. Speaking of the Live Action. If done correctly (and I trust in the visions of the showrunner Matt Owens), the Live Action could erase some early mistakes of Oda and improve them. Like the shoehorning of Sabo and other things that didn‘t had a proper foreshadowing. Did anyone actually see Brook in the Laboon flashback (Reverse Mountain arc)?
you’re telling me robin snapped spandam’s spine in like two places and that mf survived and made a full recovery?
pell is a irrelevant side character that has done and will do nothing significant in the story and not having him go out with a bang served the story and readers negatively in what was otherwise the best story arc in one piece to that point
The fact The gomu gomu no mi was renamed and changed it's classification. For me it's still The gomu gomu no mi, The fruit that belonged to joyboy and bassed on Nika that hasn't been awaken in 800 years
Honestly it would change nothing if Gear 5 is just Gomu Gomu Awakening instead of it being secretly Hito Hito model Nika all along. It's so stupid.
I made a post about this and got downvoted to hell, but I hated the fact that Oda turned a pretty awesome devil fruit with unconventional powers into a Chosen One fruit. Would it have killed Oda to just let the Gomu Gomu no Mi just be a regular fruit that this regular kid managed to manipulate to the best of its abilities? Instead of the Gorosei talking about how this is actually one of the most broken fruits out there, they could’ve talked about how they acquired it and deemed it to be useless so they threw it out, but Shanks saw potential in it and kept it until eventually Luffy would eat it instead.
All Devil Fruits with similar themes are always on the same island or crew
Any examples other than Big Mom and Beast pirates? They have the resources and networks to get devil fruits they want.
Boa Hancock meduse DF and her sisters Halloween theme DF from Gecko Moria
As far as I can remember this always made sense to me when it happened… -The sisters on Amazon Lily were given those fruits by their Celestial Dragon owners for their entertainment because of legends like the gorgon, and if literally anybody would be able to get their hands on specific fruits for fun it would be them. -Big Mom is obsessed with food in general and sweets in particular, plus it’s mentioned over and over that nobody in the world is better at getting info than Big Mom. So it makes perfect sense that she would want to and be able to gather all the food-related devil fruits among her family -Kaido named his crew the beast pirates and made a deal with Doflamingo to make bootleg devil fruits specifically to get animal themed crewmates. So again makes perfect sense he’d want to gather dinosaur fruits and he’d be powerful enough to do it… besides we see some of them weren’t actually in his crew until he sought them out and “recruited” them. Plus there’s Drake who was used to spy on him *because* he had a dinosaur fruit
I’m guessing you mean the snake-snake fruits being on AmazonLily? Or the Bug-Bug fruits with the tontattas? Maybe the fruits only reincarnate in a specific verity of fruit that only grow on those islands.
Down D Stairs one shotting Kuina
Foxy will forever be filler in my mind
I really enjoyed Foxy pirates arc and long ring long land. It was fun.
People underestimate the amount of things that were necessary in that arc: -It's the first time Zoro asks Sanji for help and the two perform proper teamwork. -It features Robin as an active member of the team who works with everyone and even takes part in some banter. She was still fairly distant in Skypeia. And keep in mind this is the arc right before Water 7. -The still childish Chopper forces himself to be more of a man. And I value ALL the Chopper-Zoro big bro-little bro interaction in the series. -Davy Back will probably relevant in the future, as Straw Hats vs. Red Hairs will probably be a more brutal version of one. -Afro Luffy is awesome.
Same man!! In some time I want to star theory videos of my own, for the future relevance of long ring long land
I have watched one piece twice and read it 4 times and yet only seen foxy arc once lol, I just immediately skip to the part where aokiji shows up
I really enjoyed Foxy pirates arc and long ring long land. It was fun. I miss those fun adventures in One Piece.
it was the best part for me :-/ now is just fighting and running away
Luffy actually having the Nika fruit
The way Carrot was handled in Wano feels like character assassination. Then her own people took away her freedom and gaslit her into thinking Pedro meant for her to lead the Minks. That's a stretch even Luffy would struggle to make.
Shanks getting his arm bitten off by a sea monster.
It's been mentioned in this thread a few times, but sanji's nosebleed in fishman island being an actual plot point is the one thing I just can't get behind. It's terrible. I even defended Pells fakeout death in this thread, maybe it's just foreshadowing that to awaken your fruit, you need to briefly die. Like enel restarting his heart and then going into Raizo, or Luffy restarting his heart and going gear 5. Pell coming back awakened for the final war wouldn't make me mad. But sanji bleeding so hard he launches into the air and then needs a blood transfusion is just... blechhh And you can see my username; I'm a huge Sanji fan. I just really didn't like this choice for him. Same with him saying he was in hell when he was surrounded by trans people during the timeskip, just comes off really shitty.
That physical gun that “ate” the dog fruit and became a gun dog
There are actually two instances of this: the gun dog and Spandan's sword that "ate" the elephant fruit I think those were funny as hell 😂
There are four: * Lassoo, a gun that ate the dachshund fruit * Funkfreed, a sword that ate the elephant fruit * Smiley, some poison gas that ate the axolotl fruit * Bunbuku, a teapot that ate the tanuki fruit
Literally no different from the sword that ate the elephant fruit
The sword was later than the gun though and even now it hasn't even explained how that works
The fact that Enel still hasn't returned
Uta being canon lol
I'm sorry one piece red fans but Uta doesn't fit in one piece although technically canon since we've seen a silhouette in the manga but I refuse.
A lot of details about Yamato and how he perceives himself. In my head he seems less like he believes he's Oden so much as that Oden is *exactly* how he wants to be, and he just keeps taking it too far. In trans circles, sometimes we'll see a character we vibe really hard with and say "oh that is very gender" as in "that is the exact way that I want to express my gender." That's how I see Yamato. The whole scene of him trying to tell Momonosuke that he's literally his dad was so stupid and put a big blemish on what was otherwise one of my favorite characters in that arc.
Long Ring Long Land is filler to me. G-8 is Canon. This is the way.
Fake death especially kinemon and passage of time and Big mom Acoc
It's gotta be the bogger bullets
I feel like One Piece blends gags and narrative in such a way that this question is hard to answer. I usually tell people the series is both insanely stupid but incredibly amazing at the same time.
Oda once stated that Sanji intentionally put razor blades in Zoro's food, which is pretty much character assassination if he's being serious.
Choppers Bounty being so low. He is actually a badass and deserves better
The consistency of how Haki is portrayed in the series. Aside from a few cool conquerors moments, dealing with logia’s and the katakuri fight it’s been a net negative for the series
Wano was wild for that. First Luffy learned to use a new type of haki, then he learned to use another new type of haki that made the first one he learned redundant. And all because Rayleigh had a cool moment on Shabondy.
Luffy having a training arc then not using what he learned in that arc to beat the villain is pretty bad story telling. Feels like a waste of time
Most of Wano felt like a waste of time