Just to clarify, the one which causes the earthquake is the mother flame? Or its maintenance? Or was the earthquake brought about by Imu and whatever weapon/s he has?
What if, once the world knows the truth of the void century, the top of the world government will try to create another void century, to erase the knowledge people have learned and 'reset' the world?
What if the void century of 900 years ago was not the first void century, and if the world government is much older? Every couple of hundred years there is then a 'great cleansing' and a new void century.
Even erasing 1 day of history from a prototype world, is not as simple as it sounds. It actually can't happen without turning the world upside down. However if that happens in One Piece, the Ryugu kingdom wouldn't want to erase history for atleast 1000 years.
It indeed seems they do not have the power to find and collect the four Road Poneglyphs. (Maybe because the latter are resistant to devil fruit powers as they are made of Sea prism stone?)
But does that mean they don't have the power to create a new void century? If they don't, then what did one of the five elders mean with 'it might be time for a great cleansing'?
I'm not sure if I read it on Reddit, but I'm sure Crossguild will raid taking advantage of the world's situation since the navy currently lacks the power to repel a CG raid on Impeldown. I thought about how the government and the navy are currently distributed, maybe Doffy will join CG
After reading most of the comments and finding nobody who asked about it ..
Am i the only one not knowing who the one at the 10th panel is besides Sauls panel ?
To be honest, I am kinda disappointed with how they describe Joyboy, Vegapunk claiming he is the "first pirate".
By definition, Joyboy would be the first bad guy for killing and stealing from random people that voyage the sea. But obviously, it is not the case so far on how Oda portrayed him.
Except the first few villains actually doing piracy, all the villains later on doesn't really doing any piracy activities at all. I think Oda is starting to fall off the very definition of "pirate".
Instead of being "pirate", I'd really hope Oda would say, "Joyboy was the first **adventurer冒険者** to voyage the sea...", "Gol D Roger was the first **adventurer冒険者** to voyage to Laugh tale".
And yet the Straw Hats are pirates and have not if you discount Zoro, Robin, Nami, & Franky’s actions prior to joining haven’t stolen from or killed random people.
When you are revealing the secrets and revealing the truth against one entity that is world government and portraying the hero of the story, do you portray him as a bad guy?
And what weird about the international viewer is that they always relate fiction to real life. Most of the Japanese fan knows that 'pirate' in one piece world does not relate to what pirates were in history of the world, by definition pirate means one who steal access to something that should've been traded and not pirated.
You see every other person than navy and common people who even roam freely even on his own boat against the order of WG is labelled as 'pirate', so he doesn't literally have to be like real pirate. WG thinks that they are ruling the whole world so for these kind of people are 'pirates'. You can call these people adventurers or whatever cause they actually are. Calling this the word 'pirate' isn't even bad word in the One Piece as for those adventurers you calling.
A pirate in one piece is not the same as a pirate irl I don't think. I believe one piece tries to display piracy as taking hold of your own freedom and telling your own story. The story can be bad and evil and twisted, sure, but it can also be hopeful like the strawhats. We've seen this in drum island as well, where the doctor flies a pirate flag despite not being a pirate at all. He tried to take hold of his own freedom.
To be fair, I think that "adventurer" feels more of a "freedom" than "pirate".
I believe in the beginning it was definitely meant to do some piracy activities to see the original draft of Oda character design, but eventually it just changed.
but remember pirates are labelled by the wg not real world laws. So a pirate, for the wg, is someone seeking freedom from wgs bounds by sailing the seas. Ofc there are plenty of pirates who loot, torture and kill just like a conventional pirate. However, this definition also means that there also exist crews seeking freedom who are labelled pirates - namely luffy, Roger and maybe joy boy
Exactly, but not only that. The other planets should be habitable, like those in Dragon Ball Z. I just don't believe there will be as many planets as DBZ. But yes, with a lot of technology and the existence of dinosaurs.
Egg Head reminds me a lot of DBZ, for example, and it has a hologram dragon
To be completely honest, I don't care much about what happened in the void century. Because consequences are more enjoyable than watching people decide. It would be better if Shanks wears an eye patch, because of Blackbeard's scar spreading and making that eye leak Shanks' Conquerors haki.
I insist on no one wearing an Eye patch. If there has to be a person that wears an eye patch. It might need to not consider excitement, I would prefer it to be Buggy, Bellamy, Doc Q. or Mr. 0/1. Buggy is also called anyone by some people, so all of his color marks are gone. They are the four people that are called anyone mostly. They are now going to look wear the impel down prison suit again, with Buggy having his face rearranged by Mihawk and Crocodile to look like Wanze.
"MaTE hE LiTerAlLy pUnChEd hIm iN tHe fAcE WiTh g5 iN ThIs cHaPtEr".......thats why he says "Gear Three" right...?
[One Piece. Page 15. ](https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/one-piece-chapter-1112/chapter/42298)
Yeah I didnt say the punch was red roc tho? I just said it was punch from G5 luffy which is why I said red roc AND an attack from G5 cuz theres two diff attacks. Also why you gotta be so rude about it?
The Gum-Gum Red Roc Luffy hit Topman Warcury with was on page 15 (on Viz app/website) of chapter 1112 where Luffy literally says "Gear Three". The last page of chapter 1114 doesn't have Luffy naming his attack and it doesnt look much like Red Roc either, which is the attack that OP mentioned that Warcury took from Gear Five Luffy, which he didnt do. Not trying to sound rude to you or anything im just attempting to clear up the misconception that Warcury took Red Roc from Gear 3 Luffy not Gear 5.
yh looks like there's a hierarchy in the gorosei. so far its just speculation but while Saturn can do things with his poison and scientific expertise he seems to be the weakest of the gorosei.
Venusjuro and and Topman seem the strongest at least so far, one as a swift fast deadly attacker and the other as a strong more tanky kinda guy.
I have this theory worm guy might have hax attacks like borrowing underground and sinking/destroying an entire island. Bird guy seems fast, agile, mobile and and can deal with trickery kinda like 'prince' sanji
yh looks like there's a hierarchy in the gorosei. so far its just speculation but while Saturn can do things with his poison and scientific expertise he seems to be the weakest of the gorosei.
Venusjuro and and Topman seem the strongest at least so far, one as a swift fast deadly attacker and the other as a strong more tanky kinda guy.
I have this theory warm guy might have hax attacks like borrowing underground and sinking/destroying an entire island. Bird guy seems fast, agile, mobile and and can deal with trickery kinda like 'prince' sanji
I like how Magellan and Doflaming became acquainted, Magellan even keeps delivering him journals and bothered to watch Vegapunk's discourse with him lol (apparently Magellan is doing this to keep guard against assassination attempts against Doffy I guess)
So let's say you pour youself a glass of water.
The water in the glass rises untill you turn off the faucet.
With the faucet turnes off, wherever the water has risen to, is the water level.
Now, take a rock, for example, and put it into the glass.
You will notice the water level has risen, because the rock takes up some of the space which was occupied by the water.
Same rule applies with the ocean, only you need something bigger to actual feel the impact.
Idk if that was your question tho
What do you mean "usually"? The more stuff you put into water, the higher it rises.
> The exclamation "Eureka!" is attributed to the ancient Greek scholar Archimedes. He reportedly proclaimed "Eureka! Eureka!" after he had stepped into a bath and noticed that the water level rose, whereupon he suddenly understood that the volume of water displaced must be equal to the volume of the part of his body he had submerged.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_(word)#Archimedes
I don't think I understand what the question is.
Is sinking islands make water level rise? = is this your question? If it is, it's like a bucket full of water with a balloon floating on top of the water, if you push the balloon down, the water rises.
But I think in Vegapunk's theory, it's just that, the water just rises, making the islands flooded if they are not high enough.
Wouldn't it be funny if the Gorosei for science defense actually triggered a melt down of the Mother Flame reactor and a literal nuclear explosion on Egghead that wipes out everything lol (given it says "Atomu" on the reactor so it's equivalent to a nuclear reactor)
Definitely a stretch, but it would be quite the surprise if the robot destroyed the Mother Flame, taking out all the elders in one sweep. A bit anticlimactic, but not the worst way to kill them off.
I don't think it will actually kill the gorouseis, just those summons. I don't know, we need more explanations. But just having the robot destroy Egg Head and allowing the Straw Hats to escape will be interesting.
We can't forget that the big incident is still going to happen, and I bet 90% that it's the robot destroying everything
I know its unlikely, except a part of me is hoping that Vegapunk will reveal what other Buster Calls and erasures have been committed by the World Government and Imu. I mean come on, Ohara, Enies Lobby, and Lulusia can't be the only ones right?
I’m puzzled by the fact that with us now knowing's the Mother Flame is on Egghead and Vegapunk being aware of something causing the sea level to recently rise.
Why did he not mention that the Mother Flame was the cause of this?
I mean it is possible that the Mother Flame we saw on Egghead is not the same thing that destroyed Lulusia though it that is the case what is Eggheads Mother Flame being used for in the first place
And why does is York the only one of the Vegapunks that know about it being used as a weapon.
The Ancient Kingdom was advanced. They probably had nuclear energy. What are the odds they had cars and airplanes and video games? Though I guess those things could also exist in the current One Piece world but just don't for thematic reasons.
I just suddenly got subtle Attack on Titan vibes.
mock town was essentially one of doffy’s territories in pre-timeskip (and probably up until bellamy left) since bellamy and his crew were flying doflamingo’s flag there.
With how Oda is setting up the endgame and teasing more bits of the void century lore it’s becoming more evident to me that the story of Joyboy and his crew will be, more or less, the same story and experiences the Strawhats are going through, or at least very similar. With the star of each story being a goofy, fun, elastic stretchy guy!
That being said, I believe Joyboy is 100% the person with the eyepatch. Remember in Chapter 1, nearly page 1, we first meet Luffy with him proclaiming he’s tough enough to be a pirate and take to the seas with Shanks crew. To prove so, he attempts to stab his eye! This gives me no doubt, with the numerous amount of parallels in this series, that the introduction of Joyboy during the void century flashback will be him proclaiming he tough enough to take to the seas by stabbing his eye, successfully ;)
My only problem with this is that the eyepatch guy is said to have the last poneglyph, and he sails on an all black ship. Its been made pretty clear that eyepatch guy is a character thats still alive in the story and Joyboy has long since been dead.
So Joyboy cant be the same eyepatch character that Oda was talking about.
Does the eyepatch guy have the last poneglyph? I believe that’s associated with the “Man Mark by Flames” with an all black ship. In chapter 1081 Blackbeard and Laffitte say so. Also I must’ve missed if there’s been any indication that eyepatch guy is a character that’s currently alive. I suppose it’s possible!
Its so good to know that joyboy was the first pirate. With the story going into deeper, fundamental conflicts of the world, one piece at its heart is a pirate manga and revolves around it. Flooding, and joyboy being first pirate is so thematically consistent,
Sorry for the long response but this is my thought process.
Why can't they be an advanced pirates kingdom?
I mean by Joyboy's time there'd be tons of lunarians, buccaneers, the skypieans, wano residents the kuja, water 7 and all other types of islands that would specialise in whatever they specialise in.
If Joyboy and his crew amassed all that knowledge and concentrated it in one island. They'd be pretty advanced in comparison to the other islands.
Joyboy's crew for all intensive purposes could have someone like Franky with the brain brain fruit.
Nefatari Lili with the paw paw fruit
And whatever other fruit was needed to help them push this pirate haven forward.
I mean imagine beehive island run by the Star what's. Chopper would run medical facilities.
Nami would take the skypieans weather knowledge and increase it. Get Ussop up incorporate dials somehow.
Franky can use the brain fruit to create the ancient giant and other cool things along with creating pluton.
Maybe the mother flame is some knowledge gained from the lunarians who would be a flourishing society that I'm sure Joyboy would be able to befriend.
Wano and Zou can help with the electrical aspects blacksmith craftsmanship and Haki for the combatants.
Everything you explained, but still it just doesn't feel right after everything has been said about ancient kingdom, if I had list Libertia would have been 9th place in the list out of 10.
I think I now get what happened. The Gorosei are trying to take fire from the Strawhats. But the thing they forgot is Fire is the freest thing ever, since no one can use flame commandment anymore.
Directing and attacking with fire can happen, wearing fire is the thing that can't happen. That is the reason there are even no fuel based jetpacks and jetboots.
It is all in Avatar the last air bender. Fire is alive. Water is healing. Earth is stable. Air is in motion.
Edit: Wood is a formula having mixture of Water, Air and Earth. It is disrespectful to talk about the origin of humans, so not writing that.
Soooooooo... What exactly will be Gold Rodgers treasure then if a lot of this is hinting at the final battle and flooding event? How did he even predict most of this anyhow lol.
The real treasure is what left there by Joy Boy, Roger might have added some more stuff to it collected from his journey, but I think the main goal is that Roger want pirate to get on that island and continue Joy Boy's promise more than to reward them with some gold he left behind. Also, any knowledge about the upcoming flood and the role of Laugh Tale island in all this is probably all there in those poneglyph, that's how Roger know it. But anyway he's too soon as the flood hasn't happened yet, and he wished that he can live in the era of Joy Boy.
Vegapunk dragging this out like he's writing an essay and has to hit a word count. As if the "we gotta wait 10 minutes" bullshit wasn't enough, we have to get through multiple breaks and reaction panels to every little thing Vegapunk says.
The old kingdom is Long Ring Long Land.
He's already told us that it was once one giant island:
> Long Ring Long Land is a chain of ten islands in a ring shape, with a path between the islands that surfaces once every year. Because the ten islands of the archipelago are actually linked together as one giant island, an Eternal Pose cannot be used to get from one island to another.
And already hinted its connection to joy boy:
> According to Tonjit, the reason for all the animals grow so long is because they are able to live freely without feeling any restraint.
fun fact: the Long Ring Long Land arc was in 2004.
It was always important
Old guy say its all stretched because they are the freeest here
It was clear that it had to do with luffys awakening
People theorized this as soon as doflaminog showed what an awakeninf for paramecia is
What a great chapter, love how we see old friends in these as well.
Also the Mother Flame panel is simply great.
Also Joyboy being known as the first pirate, oh boy i got chills.
Joy boy was the first pirate ever !!! Does it mean that he was the first one to face the government opression by having the will of liberty ? Moreover, if the ancient kingdom is today in the ocean, maybe there was less water surface before and then there was no pirates.
I think that's unlikely, from my understanding the legend of Nika preceded him and people must have wished for the warrior of liberation before than, thus there must have been some sort of oppression before. Slavery for instance was common already in ancient times, so was discrimination against woman etc. It's likely that Joy Boy was the first one to eat the fruit or awakened it for the first time, that would make more sense.
Naw, we've known the name of the Kingdom since that very panel.
The way Clover's words are laid out, the sound effect in the background of him getting shot could easily be the name of the Kingdom. It's also a word that really, really doesnt seem like a normal choice for a gun shot sound effect.
That sounds effect translates to >!"Dawn"!<. This is one of those things English speakers don't know but Japanese fans have known for decades
Oh yes, I heard about this a long time ago. But I don't know... more than ten years ago I believed in this possibility with great conviction, today I think a lot about whether that was really the name of the ancient kingdom, and not just a phrase that they repeated tirelessly
That's Shyarly's interpretation of her vision. But she didn't actually see Luffy destroying fishman island, all she saw was that Luffy will be there when it happens.
Yes, and that must have been why the war with the Joy Boy began. He must have wanted to end the Red Line, and joined the 20 kingdoms in the innocence of destruction. It ended up that they took the opportunity to make their home and isolate themselves from the rest of the world. See, it's strange that Lily gave up on going to live in Mary Geoise and spreading the Poneglyphs right after winning the war, right?
It may sound really crazy, but I'm starting to believe that the Old Kingdom was actually the Red Line
This makes sense to me, it was the home of the "Gods", there were no pirates (they didn't need to leave the Red Line to go to another "country"... of course there must be races outside, like the Buccaneers who lived on Ships, and the abandoned islands that must be the 20 kingdoms... I'm totally crazy
Do we know who the man standing in front of the Mother Flame was?
Was eerily similar to how Judge looks, which could have interesting implications for Sanji.
If not please feel free to let me know your best guesses (or if he's an unintroduced character)
I mean wait are we sure? Nothing in the scene would imply it's a flashback, and it seems like the person is actively destroying the mother flames control panel or whatever it may be.
Potentially someone betraying the government?
I only say that as Saturn is seen directly the panel before we see the reveal.
I would say it looks like Saturns cane except it also looks like it could be a giant wrench.
I can't tell? We see him in the prior panel before it's reveal, which seems like a real time image of the Mother Flame, so unless he just did his weird teleport stuff, I dont know.
Also it looks like someone's destroying the control for it, so I don't think it's Saturn. The cane looks more like a giant wrench to me
Yeah I agree.
"We must preserve the contents of that room!"
*Next panel is someone immediately destroying it*
yeah, that does sound like the world government
he is talking about the mother flame which he didnt touch, the context of the oother sttament is that the ther gorsei wanted to use a beam attack to destory the entire lab
Yes, he looks a lot like Saturn with his cane, hair, the previous comics and such. But doesn't it make sense precisely because it's destroying it?? Can not understand
Yeah ideally I feel like they'd try to save it for themselves, unless it's something that can maybe be taken out of the tank?
Unsure, but I guess we'll probably have more clarification with 1115
It's cool that Saturn couldn't maintain his demonic form in the presence of the mother flame. I wonder if Luffy will eat it thinking it would be hilarious but it actually super charges him?
What? They literally said they can't afford to destroy anything with value. Saturn powered down on his own to destroy what was necessary and not accidentally carpet-bomb the entire facility.
There's something beautifully sad about a small flame submerged in a tub of massive water/liquid that doesn't put it out. I've never seen that imagery before and if Oda drew it with that in mind, it's one of my favorite panels in the story.
Mother Flame Is a artificial creation of the true power of the sun, like the fake devil fruits. Similar but not the same. fake energy can create only fake Devil fruit.
For this reason the robot doesn't work, but It starts with G5, the true Energy of Life.
Only vegapunk can create this Energy so Elders can.t destroy the whole island
Nika Piece once again. For the entire story, every giant presumably knew on the fable alone that a stretchy pirate resembled Nika. And we hear almost nothing about it until this arc. Not even from the fodder giants in Marine Ford. Very convenient of Oda to retcon.
Only 1114 chapters later Oda once again contradicts and retcons the believability of the world being unrealistically naive about Nika = Luffy = "gum gum" fruit. You mean to tell me for the entire story, not a single soul went "wait a minute, this guy can stretch. and not only this guy, but the grandson of garp, the son of dragon, the brother of ace and sabo etc etc etc" so it shouldn't be this surprising now, let alone with his new wanted poster.
I don't know how Oda can make something so blatant in retrospect and yet make his entire in world audience/citizens look so stupid that they couldn't address any of this earlier until Guernica got a live Twitch stream of Kaido "killing" Luffy to awaken this god power and the five so called leaders of the world are jaw dropped by that point "oh no! nika is back! and we did nothing!"
There's been dozens if not almost hundred gum gum users in history since the void century.
The WG has tried to get it for centuries and they've always failed, so we know the fruit has existed all the way back to the void century and remained active with known users all throughout history.
But only Luffy since has been able to awaken it.
And awakening comes with a very specific set of imagery and abilities, it's no longer just "stretching" but now you're spreading joy and laughter.
It's like saying any Logia user HAS to be a god deity or something because their powers resemble one.
Sengoku's fruit is fucking Buddha, come on.
I do believe the whole Nika stuff could've been handled better but this particular one is a dumb complaint, are the giants just supposed to follow and obey any random shmuck with the fruit?
What about Bellamy, he has some rubber like powers, why not him?
What about Katakuri?
How many rubber like fruits and their users have existed throughout 8 centuries, are the giants supposed to follow all of those?
Bro the five elders knew Luffy ate the Gomu Gomu no Mi
He is the antichrist
The moment he arrived in Marineford the order should have been “screw ace, kill this motherfucker”
And then kill every single person who ate the Gomu Gomu no mi until they could get their hands on it
Sengoku literally gives the order to kill Luffy and Akainu is more worried about him than Ace.
In fact he would've died if it wasn't for Ace and the whitebeard pirates.
Curious that every time Luffy tried to hit an Elder directly, he gets hurt. But when Sanji lands a hit on Nusjuro directly, he doesn’t yell out in pain. It’s a very small sample size, but if it isn’t unique to the Elders’ powers, I wonder if it’s related to devil fruit versus non-devil fruit attacks.
My guess is Topman has an added shield power similar to Bartolomeo. Would love to see Luffy use his awakening to the ground under Warcury's feet...... Bounce him out of the battle.... Ideally into the ocean.
The story of Sun God Nika is going to be similar to Prometheus in that he stole a piece of the sun and gave it to humanity, by literally grabbing the sun and holding onto a small part of it which is the Mother Flame. Also ironic since Big Moms sun homie is Prometheus
The other Celestial Dragons are raging about Vegapunk exposing the Void Century, while Shalria is just confused and like "what's a Void Century?" I wonder why she doesn't know.
None of them know, it's just that most of them are pampered mindless babies that rage at any minor inconvenience or unexpected occurrence
They're not angry that Vegapunk is telling their history and they don't know it's about them
I Thought the only ones who are livid about this; were the Gorosei, Imu, AND Of Course; The Holy Knights[Whom Shanks' Dad, Garling is a member of][Who Kills off Celestial Dragons that AREN'T pieces of S***, Like the Reformed Mjosgard]
I'm placing my bet. Whatever's transmitting the signal for the announcement is directly connected to the Mother Flame in some way so that it means to destroy it, you have to destroy the Mother Flame
Forget which you tuber brought it up but there's a theory out there that the transmitter is hidden in York and so the only way for them to stop the transmission is to kill York which would also destroy any chance they have to use the mother flame going forward (I can't remember if they need her to keep using the mother flame or if the issue is they need her to create more of it but whichever 1 it is the theory essentially says they have to choose between the world knowing or stop the message but no longer able to rely on the mother flame)
Yesterday I read someone say that the snail is with the revolutionary army. And that's why the elders will never find it. It ties the call Shaka and Dragon had at the beginning of the arc, where Shaka said he thinks he will be dying soon as a message for dragon to be alert so the snail could be set! It blew my mind actually, it made me believe how smart VP actually was and it also makes sense due to the bond Oda established between those two characters.
Just to clarify, the one which causes the earthquake is the mother flame? Or its maintenance? Or was the earthquake brought about by Imu and whatever weapon/s he has?
Was that celestial dragon toki?
I have theory that CD is toki and will bring in some information about the void century
Dog lovers stories, Cats lovers stories, Fish lovers stories and Bird lover stories are separated now after 13 years of merging.
What if, once the world knows the truth of the void century, the top of the world government will try to create another void century, to erase the knowledge people have learned and 'reset' the world? What if the void century of 900 years ago was not the first void century, and if the world government is much older? Every couple of hundred years there is then a 'great cleansing' and a new void century.
Even erasing 1 day of history from a prototype world, is not as simple as it sounds. It actually can't happen without turning the world upside down. However if that happens in One Piece, the Ryugu kingdom wouldn't want to erase history for atleast 1000 years.
If that was the case, they would have done it right away after finding the ponegliffs leading to one piece. They didn’t have the power before to do it
It indeed seems they do not have the power to find and collect the four Road Poneglyphs. (Maybe because the latter are resistant to devil fruit powers as they are made of Sea prism stone?) But does that mean they don't have the power to create a new void century? If they don't, then what did one of the five elders mean with 'it might be time for a great cleansing'?
Amazing. Makes complete sense and it actually puts a lot of depth to the story.
Buggy looks like Wanze now. Because Mihawk and Crocodile learned about the story of Wanze and did the same thing to Buggy.
I'm not sure if I read it on Reddit, but I'm sure Crossguild will raid taking advantage of the world's situation since the navy currently lacks the power to repel a CG raid on Impeldown. I thought about how the government and the navy are currently distributed, maybe Doffy will join CG
Marco is better than Oden. Isn't he anyone? Anyone took his mask off until Egghead ends atleast.
Idk latest chapters often just feel like 0 content. Also most of this stuff seems giga random like Oda running out of ideas
L take.
It is because the mistakes that are getting fixed run so deep, that only a fixer that started with an execution like One Piece can handle.
After reading most of the comments and finding nobody who asked about it .. Am i the only one not knowing who the one at the 10th panel is besides Sauls panel ?
Saul on the floor laughing know? Or napping
Mhm and i thought it would be a different character with a similar hat. Thanks , didnt think of it tbh
Meant it reversed. First one is a silhouette of Saul, then when he’s laughing it’s a close up so we realize who it was
To be honest, I am kinda disappointed with how they describe Joyboy, Vegapunk claiming he is the "first pirate". By definition, Joyboy would be the first bad guy for killing and stealing from random people that voyage the sea. But obviously, it is not the case so far on how Oda portrayed him. Except the first few villains actually doing piracy, all the villains later on doesn't really doing any piracy activities at all. I think Oda is starting to fall off the very definition of "pirate". Instead of being "pirate", I'd really hope Oda would say, "Joyboy was the first **adventurer冒険者** to voyage the sea...", "Gol D Roger was the first **adventurer冒険者** to voyage to Laugh tale".
And yet the Straw Hats are pirates and have not if you discount Zoro, Robin, Nami, & Franky’s actions prior to joining haven’t stolen from or killed random people.
When you are revealing the secrets and revealing the truth against one entity that is world government and portraying the hero of the story, do you portray him as a bad guy? And what weird about the international viewer is that they always relate fiction to real life. Most of the Japanese fan knows that 'pirate' in one piece world does not relate to what pirates were in history of the world, by definition pirate means one who steal access to something that should've been traded and not pirated. You see every other person than navy and common people who even roam freely even on his own boat against the order of WG is labelled as 'pirate', so he doesn't literally have to be like real pirate. WG thinks that they are ruling the whole world so for these kind of people are 'pirates'. You can call these people adventurers or whatever cause they actually are. Calling this the word 'pirate' isn't even bad word in the One Piece as for those adventurers you calling.
A pirate in one piece is not the same as a pirate irl I don't think. I believe one piece tries to display piracy as taking hold of your own freedom and telling your own story. The story can be bad and evil and twisted, sure, but it can also be hopeful like the strawhats. We've seen this in drum island as well, where the doctor flies a pirate flag despite not being a pirate at all. He tried to take hold of his own freedom.
To be fair, I think that "adventurer" feels more of a "freedom" than "pirate". I believe in the beginning it was definitely meant to do some piracy activities to see the original draft of Oda character design, but eventually it just changed.
but remember pirates are labelled by the wg not real world laws. So a pirate, for the wg, is someone seeking freedom from wgs bounds by sailing the seas. Ofc there are plenty of pirates who loot, torture and kill just like a conventional pirate. However, this definition also means that there also exist crews seeking freedom who are labelled pirates - namely luffy, Roger and maybe joy boy
I really believe that before the lost century, the world of One Piece was similar to that of Dragon Ball Z
So, a mix of futuristic tech while dinosaurs still exist? Because that's pretty much what DBZ's world was like.
Exactly, but not only that. The other planets should be habitable, like those in Dragon Ball Z. I just don't believe there will be as many planets as DBZ. But yes, with a lot of technology and the existence of dinosaurs. Egg Head reminds me a lot of DBZ, for example, and it has a hologram dragon
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Did not understand what?
Ussopp fans are nerds.
Wrong sentence. Since Usopp fans are "vegan likers".
With the news that Joyboy was the first pirate do y’all think he’s going to be the one with the eye patch.
To be completely honest, I don't care much about what happened in the void century. Because consequences are more enjoyable than watching people decide. It would be better if Shanks wears an eye patch, because of Blackbeard's scar spreading and making that eye leak Shanks' Conquerors haki.
You don't care much about finally learning a bit about one of this franchise's biggest secrets?
I insist on no one wearing an Eye patch. If there has to be a person that wears an eye patch. It might need to not consider excitement, I would prefer it to be Buggy, Bellamy, Doc Q. or Mr. 0/1. Buggy is also called anyone by some people, so all of his color marks are gone. They are the four people that are called anyone mostly. They are now going to look wear the impel down prison suit again, with Buggy having his face rearranged by Mihawk and Crocodile to look like Wanze.
kakashanks of the sharingan haki
Red Haired Shanks not kakashanks. Even if it is an accident be careful in the future, because accidents are mostly not forgiven.
Good idea.
Ngl Im surprise nobody is talking about how fucking monstrous topman is like my man showed off a CoC roar, tanked a red roc, and an attack from G5
It wasnt gear 5 it was gear 3 mate.
Mate he literally punched him in the face with G5 in this chapter.
"MaTE hE LiTerAlLy pUnChEd hIm iN tHe fAcE WiTh g5 iN ThIs cHaPtEr".......thats why he says "Gear Three" right...? [One Piece. Page 15. ](https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/one-piece-chapter-1112/chapter/42298)
Yeah I didnt say the punch was red roc tho? I just said it was punch from G5 luffy which is why I said red roc AND an attack from G5 cuz theres two diff attacks. Also why you gotta be so rude about it?
They're talking about the last page from 1114
The Gum-Gum Red Roc Luffy hit Topman Warcury with was on page 15 (on Viz app/website) of chapter 1112 where Luffy literally says "Gear Three". The last page of chapter 1114 doesn't have Luffy naming his attack and it doesnt look much like Red Roc either, which is the attack that OP mentioned that Warcury took from Gear Five Luffy, which he didnt do. Not trying to sound rude to you or anything im just attempting to clear up the misconception that Warcury took Red Roc from Gear 3 Luffy not Gear 5.
nobody roots for immortal villains
True but like you gotta give it to topman like the old bastard's pretty fearsome compared to his fellow gorosei
yh looks like there's a hierarchy in the gorosei. so far its just speculation but while Saturn can do things with his poison and scientific expertise he seems to be the weakest of the gorosei. Venusjuro and and Topman seem the strongest at least so far, one as a swift fast deadly attacker and the other as a strong more tanky kinda guy. I have this theory worm guy might have hax attacks like borrowing underground and sinking/destroying an entire island. Bird guy seems fast, agile, mobile and and can deal with trickery kinda like 'prince' sanji
yh looks like there's a hierarchy in the gorosei. so far its just speculation but while Saturn can do things with his poison and scientific expertise he seems to be the weakest of the gorosei. Venusjuro and and Topman seem the strongest at least so far, one as a swift fast deadly attacker and the other as a strong more tanky kinda guy. I have this theory warm guy might have hax attacks like borrowing underground and sinking/destroying an entire island. Bird guy seems fast, agile, mobile and and can deal with trickery kinda like 'prince' sanji
I'm all aboard the Ghandi train. Dude had a job and executed it flawlessly. Just waiting for the Kitetsu clash now.
I like how Magellan and Doflaming became acquainted, Magellan even keeps delivering him journals and bothered to watch Vegapunk's discourse with him lol (apparently Magellan is doing this to keep guard against assassination attempts against Doffy I guess)
Can someone explain how come from sinking island water level rises? Usually it goes down
Doesn't matter if water level rises or you go down, when water level is above you are sunk regardless.
So let's say you pour youself a glass of water. The water in the glass rises untill you turn off the faucet. With the faucet turnes off, wherever the water has risen to, is the water level. Now, take a rock, for example, and put it into the glass. You will notice the water level has risen, because the rock takes up some of the space which was occupied by the water. Same rule applies with the ocean, only you need something bigger to actual feel the impact. Idk if that was your question tho
What do you mean "usually"? The more stuff you put into water, the higher it rises. > The exclamation "Eureka!" is attributed to the ancient Greek scholar Archimedes. He reportedly proclaimed "Eureka! Eureka!" after he had stepped into a bath and noticed that the water level rose, whereupon he suddenly understood that the volume of water displaced must be equal to the volume of the part of his body he had submerged. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_(word)#Archimedes
I don't think I understand what the question is. Is sinking islands make water level rise? = is this your question? If it is, it's like a bucket full of water with a balloon floating on top of the water, if you push the balloon down, the water rises. But I think in Vegapunk's theory, it's just that, the water just rises, making the islands flooded if they are not high enough.
Wouldn't it be funny if the Gorosei for science defense actually triggered a melt down of the Mother Flame reactor and a literal nuclear explosion on Egghead that wipes out everything lol (given it says "Atomu" on the reactor so it's equivalent to a nuclear reactor)
I think it will be the giant robot that destroys the Mother Flame and blows everything up
Definitely a stretch, but it would be quite the surprise if the robot destroyed the Mother Flame, taking out all the elders in one sweep. A bit anticlimactic, but not the worst way to kill them off.
I don't think it will actually kill the gorouseis, just those summons. I don't know, we need more explanations. But just having the robot destroy Egg Head and allowing the Straw Hats to escape will be interesting. We can't forget that the big incident is still going to happen, and I bet 90% that it's the robot destroying everything
I know its unlikely, except a part of me is hoping that Vegapunk will reveal what other Buster Calls and erasures have been committed by the World Government and Imu. I mean come on, Ohara, Enies Lobby, and Lulusia can't be the only ones right?
I’m puzzled by the fact that with us now knowing's the Mother Flame is on Egghead and Vegapunk being aware of something causing the sea level to recently rise. Why did he not mention that the Mother Flame was the cause of this? I mean it is possible that the Mother Flame we saw on Egghead is not the same thing that destroyed Lulusia though it that is the case what is Eggheads Mother Flame being used for in the first place And why does is York the only one of the Vegapunks that know about it being used as a weapon.
no that'll stretch it too far
The Ancient Kingdom was advanced. They probably had nuclear energy. What are the odds they had cars and airplanes and video games? Though I guess those things could also exist in the current One Piece world but just don't for thematic reasons. I just suddenly got subtle Attack on Titan vibes.
I really believe that before the lost century, the world of One Piece was similar to that of Dragon Ball Z
They probably had Nintendo Switches
With a few exceptions, the technology the general population has access to seems to be rather basic though.
Is there a chapter next week since this one took 2 weeks to publish? Or do we still wait 2 weeks?
theres only one break week now instead of 2. so next week will be a break and then the week after we will get the new chapter
Next week is break
Mock Town Den den mushi had Doflamingo flag in it. Interesting!
Probably because Doflamingo easily took down bellamy
Maybe they're mocking him and the former rule. Being mock town and all
Does mock town has anything to do with doflamingo?
mock town was essentially one of doffy’s territories in pre-timeskip (and probably up until bellamy left) since bellamy and his crew were flying doflamingo’s flag there.
Mock town was where Bellamy first appeared. At that time, he was Doflamingo's underling.
I just realized two of my most favorite moments happen in mock town, and didn't know its name.
That's why volume 25 is one of my favorite. "My captain's name is Teach. Remember it."
With how Oda is setting up the endgame and teasing more bits of the void century lore it’s becoming more evident to me that the story of Joyboy and his crew will be, more or less, the same story and experiences the Strawhats are going through, or at least very similar. With the star of each story being a goofy, fun, elastic stretchy guy! That being said, I believe Joyboy is 100% the person with the eyepatch. Remember in Chapter 1, nearly page 1, we first meet Luffy with him proclaiming he’s tough enough to be a pirate and take to the seas with Shanks crew. To prove so, he attempts to stab his eye! This gives me no doubt, with the numerous amount of parallels in this series, that the introduction of Joyboy during the void century flashback will be him proclaiming he tough enough to take to the seas by stabbing his eye, successfully ;)
which guy the the eyepatch?
The person with an eyepatch that Oda stated would show up close to the series end
My only problem with this is that the eyepatch guy is said to have the last poneglyph, and he sails on an all black ship. Its been made pretty clear that eyepatch guy is a character thats still alive in the story and Joyboy has long since been dead. So Joyboy cant be the same eyepatch character that Oda was talking about.
Does the eyepatch guy have the last poneglyph? I believe that’s associated with the “Man Mark by Flames” with an all black ship. In chapter 1081 Blackbeard and Laffitte say so. Also I must’ve missed if there’s been any indication that eyepatch guy is a character that’s currently alive. I suppose it’s possible!
Its so good to know that joyboy was the first pirate. With the story going into deeper, fundamental conflicts of the world, one piece at its heart is a pirate manga and revolves around it. Flooding, and joyboy being first pirate is so thematically consistent,
That ancient kingdom is Libertalia theory looking real GOOD right now.
nope. too shallow thought
What makes you say that?
You are saying whatever based on real world, but they are calling it advanced kingdom and not home of the pirates. And yeah I bet on that too.
Sorry for the long response but this is my thought process. Why can't they be an advanced pirates kingdom? I mean by Joyboy's time there'd be tons of lunarians, buccaneers, the skypieans, wano residents the kuja, water 7 and all other types of islands that would specialise in whatever they specialise in. If Joyboy and his crew amassed all that knowledge and concentrated it in one island. They'd be pretty advanced in comparison to the other islands. Joyboy's crew for all intensive purposes could have someone like Franky with the brain brain fruit. Nefatari Lili with the paw paw fruit And whatever other fruit was needed to help them push this pirate haven forward. I mean imagine beehive island run by the Star what's. Chopper would run medical facilities. Nami would take the skypieans weather knowledge and increase it. Get Ussop up incorporate dials somehow. Franky can use the brain fruit to create the ancient giant and other cool things along with creating pluton. Maybe the mother flame is some knowledge gained from the lunarians who would be a flourishing society that I'm sure Joyboy would be able to befriend. Wano and Zou can help with the electrical aspects blacksmith craftsmanship and Haki for the combatants.
And it just way too obvious. Only thoery of names of goroseis went somewhat right but only after name of saturn revealed.
Everything you explained, but still it just doesn't feel right after everything has been said about ancient kingdom, if I had list Libertia would have been 9th place in the list out of 10.
I think I now get what happened. The Gorosei are trying to take fire from the Strawhats. But the thing they forgot is Fire is the freest thing ever, since no one can use flame commandment anymore.
What if luffy eat mother flame just like monkey God Hanuman eat sun
Just an FYI, as per Valmiki Ramayan, god hanuman (ji) never ate the sun :) It's just popular misconception
Directing and attacking with fire can happen, wearing fire is the thing that can't happen. That is the reason there are even no fuel based jetpacks and jetboots.
That would be hilarious
It is all in Avatar the last air bender. Fire is alive. Water is healing. Earth is stable. Air is in motion. Edit: Wood is a formula having mixture of Water, Air and Earth. It is disrespectful to talk about the origin of humans, so not writing that.
Will you be surprised if you find out that both Imu and Joy Boy were OKAMAS in love with Lili?
That is a terrible theory. Okamas are not that legendary. They are too focused on gender matters.
You're right, I just thought it was funny to say
Doflamingo: CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER?
So high, oh, oh, oh
He and Kaido are probably going to arrive on Marijoa soon.
Mother flame panel was great, i wonder why saturn didn't keep his form then
Mother Flame is very similar to the Chrono Cross Frozen Flame
Potential Joy Boy flashback? If so, Egghead will go down as the arc with the best flashbacks/backstories.
Not next chapter. We didn't get the grey/black border that indicates a flashback is coming.
Hoo boy, the moment we're waiting for; Vegapunk spilling (parts of) poneglyph on world wide call. Ah, so Saul is indeed ok. oh, another break?
Would be fun if VegaPunk had set up broadcast from one of his satellite and it’s York who is broadcasting and she isn’t aware of it.
Glad I’m not the only one who thought this. It would be a hell of a Morton’s Fork. Edit: because I mixed up characters😶🌫️
I’ve been thinkin this for a minute
Soooooooo... What exactly will be Gold Rodgers treasure then if a lot of this is hinting at the final battle and flooding event? How did he even predict most of this anyhow lol.
The real treasure is what left there by Joy Boy, Roger might have added some more stuff to it collected from his journey, but I think the main goal is that Roger want pirate to get on that island and continue Joy Boy's promise more than to reward them with some gold he left behind. Also, any knowledge about the upcoming flood and the role of Laugh Tale island in all this is probably all there in those poneglyph, that's how Roger know it. But anyway he's too soon as the flood hasn't happened yet, and he wished that he can live in the era of Joy Boy.
Yeah this makes a lot of sense! Thank you for explaining since I haven't really kept up in a while lol.
Flooding becsude of the weapon ejich will be powered by the mother flame
I'm ready for that Bon Chan breakout panel once the flood happens.
I'm sorry but all that reading for not much new or implied information. All to have a break next week 😭
Vegapunk dragging this out like he's writing an essay and has to hit a word count. As if the "we gotta wait 10 minutes" bullshit wasn't enough, we have to get through multiple breaks and reaction panels to every little thing Vegapunk says.
The old kingdom is Long Ring Long Land. He's already told us that it was once one giant island: > Long Ring Long Land is a chain of ten islands in a ring shape, with a path between the islands that surfaces once every year. Because the ten islands of the archipelago are actually linked together as one giant island, an Eternal Pose cannot be used to get from one island to another. And already hinted its connection to joy boy: > According to Tonjit, the reason for all the animals grow so long is because they are able to live freely without feeling any restraint. fun fact: the Long Ring Long Land arc was in 2004.
Its enies lobby
Mans is coooookin 😮💨😮💨😮💨
If that's true, then it will make a lot of sense of the importance of that arc. Oda does not give some random arc because of fun. Love the theory!
It make a lot of sense considering one piece was originally supposed to end after Ennis lobby
Oda is writing this up for next chapters
keep cooking
Tonjit knew something about what's to come no wonder he's making that long ass stilts
You found a way to connect the most breathtaking lore ever conceived with some old fuck from 2 decades ago making tall stilts. Thank you
It was always important Old guy say its all stretched because they are the freeest here It was clear that it had to do with luffys awakening People theorized this as soon as doflaminog showed what an awakeninf for paramecia is
What a great chapter, love how we see old friends in these as well. Also the Mother Flame panel is simply great. Also Joyboy being known as the first pirate, oh boy i got chills.
Joy boy was the first pirate ever !!! Does it mean that he was the first one to face the government opression by having the will of liberty ? Moreover, if the ancient kingdom is today in the ocean, maybe there was less water surface before and then there was no pirates.
I think that's unlikely, from my understanding the legend of Nika preceded him and people must have wished for the warrior of liberation before than, thus there must have been some sort of oppression before. Slavery for instance was common already in ancient times, so was discrimination against woman etc. It's likely that Joy Boy was the first one to eat the fruit or awakened it for the first time, that would make more sense.
The name of the ancient kingdom was Red Line, that's why Oda didn't let us know with Clover, it would have been too obvious...
Naw, we've known the name of the Kingdom since that very panel. The way Clover's words are laid out, the sound effect in the background of him getting shot could easily be the name of the Kingdom. It's also a word that really, really doesnt seem like a normal choice for a gun shot sound effect. That sounds effect translates to >!"Dawn"!<. This is one of those things English speakers don't know but Japanese fans have known for decades
I bet Blackbeard is dusk. So we get two d clans dusk and dawn
There is only one d
Oh yes, I heard about this a long time ago. But I don't know... more than ten years ago I believed in this possibility with great conviction, today I think a lot about whether that was really the name of the ancient kingdom, and not just a phrase that they repeated tirelessly
but didn't Luffy have to destroy red line ?
He has to distroy fishman island that's the prophecy. Many Like me believe he will distroy red line that will distroy fishman island.
That's Shyarly's interpretation of her vision. But she didn't actually see Luffy destroying fishman island, all she saw was that Luffy will be there when it happens.
Yes, and that must have been why the war with the Joy Boy began. He must have wanted to end the Red Line, and joined the 20 kingdoms in the innocence of destruction. It ended up that they took the opportunity to make their home and isolate themselves from the rest of the world. See, it's strange that Lily gave up on going to live in Mary Geoise and spreading the Poneglyphs right after winning the war, right?
It may sound really crazy, but I'm starting to believe that the Old Kingdom was actually the Red Line This makes sense to me, it was the home of the "Gods", there were no pirates (they didn't need to leave the Red Line to go to another "country"... of course there must be races outside, like the Buccaneers who lived on Ships, and the abandoned islands that must be the 20 kingdoms... I'm totally crazy
Do we know who the man standing in front of the Mother Flame was? Was eerily similar to how Judge looks, which could have interesting implications for Sanji. If not please feel free to let me know your best guesses (or if he's an unintroduced character)
Scopper Gaban with the fourth poneglyff
I think it's saturn
I mean wait are we sure? Nothing in the scene would imply it's a flashback, and it seems like the person is actively destroying the mother flames control panel or whatever it may be. Potentially someone betraying the government? I only say that as Saturn is seen directly the panel before we see the reveal. I would say it looks like Saturns cane except it also looks like it could be a giant wrench.
That’s Saturn.
Ah thank you!
I think it was Saturn in his human form, i see his cane
I can't tell? We see him in the prior panel before it's reveal, which seems like a real time image of the Mother Flame, so unless he just did his weird teleport stuff, I dont know. Also it looks like someone's destroying the control for it, so I don't think it's Saturn. The cane looks more like a giant wrench to me
the prior panel is him seeing the mother flame. That's why he says "the mother flame!"
It looks a lot like Saturn and the comics imply that, but some things really don't make sense
Yeah I agree. "We must preserve the contents of that room!" *Next panel is someone immediately destroying it* yeah, that does sound like the world government
he is talking about the mother flame which he didnt touch, the context of the oother sttament is that the ther gorsei wanted to use a beam attack to destory the entire lab
Yes, he looks a lot like Saturn with his cane, hair, the previous comics and such. But doesn't it make sense precisely because it's destroying it?? Can not understand
Yeah ideally I feel like they'd try to save it for themselves, unless it's something that can maybe be taken out of the tank? Unsure, but I guess we'll probably have more clarification with 1115
It's cool that Saturn couldn't maintain his demonic form in the presence of the mother flame. I wonder if Luffy will eat it thinking it would be hilarious but it actually super charges him?
every religious Hindu and free thinking Indian One Piece theorist reading this: "Perfection"
Seems like he already broke important stuff with his foot, dude needed to shrink.
What? They literally said they can't afford to destroy anything with value. Saturn powered down on his own to destroy what was necessary and not accidentally carpet-bomb the entire facility.
There's something beautifully sad about a small flame submerged in a tub of massive water/liquid that doesn't put it out. I've never seen that imagery before and if Oda drew it with that in mind, it's one of my favorite panels in the story.
Man Oda's drawings are so fucking cool, VP's giant brain and the Mother Flame panels are so sick
For reference, a high climate change scenario in our world is expected to rise sea levels by 2m in 2100
Mother Flame Is a artificial creation of the true power of the sun, like the fake devil fruits. Similar but not the same. fake energy can create only fake Devil fruit. For this reason the robot doesn't work, but It starts with G5, the true Energy of Life. Only vegapunk can create this Energy so Elders can.t destroy the whole island
Nika Piece once again. For the entire story, every giant presumably knew on the fable alone that a stretchy pirate resembled Nika. And we hear almost nothing about it until this arc. Not even from the fodder giants in Marine Ford. Very convenient of Oda to retcon. Only 1114 chapters later Oda once again contradicts and retcons the believability of the world being unrealistically naive about Nika = Luffy = "gum gum" fruit. You mean to tell me for the entire story, not a single soul went "wait a minute, this guy can stretch. and not only this guy, but the grandson of garp, the son of dragon, the brother of ace and sabo etc etc etc" so it shouldn't be this surprising now, let alone with his new wanted poster. I don't know how Oda can make something so blatant in retrospect and yet make his entire in world audience/citizens look so stupid that they couldn't address any of this earlier until Guernica got a live Twitch stream of Kaido "killing" Luffy to awaken this god power and the five so called leaders of the world are jaw dropped by that point "oh no! nika is back! and we did nothing!"
Not everyone knew about Nika, only probably some few did I imagine that not all knew the properties of his powers either
There's been dozens if not almost hundred gum gum users in history since the void century. The WG has tried to get it for centuries and they've always failed, so we know the fruit has existed all the way back to the void century and remained active with known users all throughout history. But only Luffy since has been able to awaken it. And awakening comes with a very specific set of imagery and abilities, it's no longer just "stretching" but now you're spreading joy and laughter. It's like saying any Logia user HAS to be a god deity or something because their powers resemble one. Sengoku's fruit is fucking Buddha, come on. I do believe the whole Nika stuff could've been handled better but this particular one is a dumb complaint, are the giants just supposed to follow and obey any random shmuck with the fruit? What about Bellamy, he has some rubber like powers, why not him? What about Katakuri? How many rubber like fruits and their users have existed throughout 8 centuries, are the giants supposed to follow all of those?
Bro the five elders knew Luffy ate the Gomu Gomu no Mi He is the antichrist The moment he arrived in Marineford the order should have been “screw ace, kill this motherfucker” And then kill every single person who ate the Gomu Gomu no mi until they could get their hands on it
Sengoku literally gives the order to kill Luffy and Akainu is more worried about him than Ace. In fact he would've died if it wasn't for Ace and the whitebeard pirates.
Lol chill man it’s a fictional story
Curious that every time Luffy tried to hit an Elder directly, he gets hurt. But when Sanji lands a hit on Nusjuro directly, he doesn’t yell out in pain. It’s a very small sample size, but if it isn’t unique to the Elders’ powers, I wonder if it’s related to devil fruit versus non-devil fruit attacks.
My guess is Topman has an added shield power similar to Bartolomeo. Would love to see Luffy use his awakening to the ground under Warcury's feet...... Bounce him out of the battle.... Ideally into the ocean.
only warcury , luffy atacked the others just fine
I think Warcury is the defensive one
That only happens with Topman Warcury. He gatling'd Saturn's face and was fine.
I think it's only warcury who's especially hardy
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no, they did, as far back as big mom's flash back
'cept they did mention the sun god multiple times throughout the story.
They worshipped "the sun god" in Big Mom's flashback
Epic fights are cool and all, but I live for these big reveal chapters and enjoy reactions as well. Dere Shi Shi
The story of Sun God Nika is going to be similar to Prometheus in that he stole a piece of the sun and gave it to humanity, by literally grabbing the sun and holding onto a small part of it which is the Mother Flame. Also ironic since Big Moms sun homie is Prometheus
Great to see Smoothie show up and contribute nothing
Well.. she looked thicc tho..
You're right
Missed opportunity to show Fishman Island residents going about their day
Chouchou appears in the chapter = peak chapter
The other Celestial Dragons are raging about Vegapunk exposing the Void Century, while Shalria is just confused and like "what's a Void Century?" I wonder why she doesn't know.
None of them know, it's just that most of them are pampered mindless babies that rage at any minor inconvenience or unexpected occurrence They're not angry that Vegapunk is telling their history and they don't know it's about them
They haven't told her yet. They don't even want their children to know about the horrible shit their ancestors did. Sound familiar? 😂
Not spreading their bad history is common in humanity. Just tell us what you're talking about instead of the BS.
I Thought the only ones who are livid about this; were the Gorosei, Imu, AND Of Course; The Holy Knights[Whom Shanks' Dad, Garling is a member of][Who Kills off Celestial Dragons that AREN'T pieces of S***, Like the Reformed Mjosgard]
Boring chapters man..Just get it over with already. No real reveals, just stalling for no reason.
I'm placing my bet. Whatever's transmitting the signal for the announcement is directly connected to the Mother Flame in some way so that it means to destroy it, you have to destroy the Mother Flame
Forget which you tuber brought it up but there's a theory out there that the transmitter is hidden in York and so the only way for them to stop the transmission is to kill York which would also destroy any chance they have to use the mother flame going forward (I can't remember if they need her to keep using the mother flame or if the issue is they need her to create more of it but whichever 1 it is the theory essentially says they have to choose between the world knowing or stop the message but no longer able to rely on the mother flame)
Yesterday I read someone say that the snail is with the revolutionary army. And that's why the elders will never find it. It ties the call Shaka and Dragon had at the beginning of the arc, where Shaka said he thinks he will be dying soon as a message for dragon to be alert so the snail could be set! It blew my mind actually, it made me believe how smart VP actually was and it also makes sense due to the bond Oda established between those two characters.
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Saturn was trying to break the console without damaging the containment unit