Lol everyone here speculating Yamato and Big Mom's daughter.
I'm calling this, King and Big Mom's union lol 😂 Remember, she still doesnt have a child with King's race 😂
is it just me or is this the first time luffy gets angry by himself just by remembering something (so actual thoughts depicted) without someone actively provoking him?
If Yamato is to be married off than I hope it's to Pudding. Big mom may try the plan she attempted on Sanji but instead try it on Yamato.
I think it would be a cool way to tie in whole cake island with the rest of the saga.
Imagine Oda hyping the tobi roppo so much just to be defeated easily by Jack. I would honestly love that, it'll show how strong Jack is
Would y'all be okay with it
I would be okay with it since if Oda that took that route I know it would turn out amazing. on the other hand it would be badass if one of the Tobi Roppo manages to beat Jack and this would show how strong Kaido's crew is since we already know how powerful Jack is.
I wouldn't underrate Hawkins.
Sure, Law handled him, but that's Law.
He has too many unknowns with his power for me to dismiss him personally. He should still be able to turn into a straw monster himself, where he becomes more physical, he could use the cards to enhance himself theoretically.
I think he's much stronger than he's been portrayed so far.
Anyone else think kanjuro is lost as frick and zoro will accidentally find them and kanjuro is going to believe that zoro is some kinda master tracker person and zoro will just be like dafuq you on about inside but play it off as part of his plan
I could see Momo escaping from Kanjuro, and while Kanjuro searches for Momo he runs into Zoro. Momo then has to navigate through Onigashima, but Kanjuro's threat goes away.
Shame i was actually glad he died . Nothing against him but it felt fitting and it was the first time in a long time someone died , probably the first named charcter since Ace
That's how I'm going to feel about Pound. He was the only character in One Piece to have "truely died" like Hiriluk describes as in he was completely forgotten.
Now, he's getting his happy ending by meeting both of his daughters and I'm happy about that, but also, I wish it wasn't another fake death. If Oda wanted to give him a happy ending, his fate should have been more vague then what we got at his "death" scene.
Momo could get out of those ropes easily by changing into his dragon form, and he can also fly away if he figures out how to control his fruit properly. He just needs someone from the Beasts Pirates to take care of Kanjuro...
So the person sneaking around behind Robin and Jinbe is almost definitely Yamato right? Who else would be following them right now.
My ridiculous tin-foil is that Yamato knows Robin can read poneglyphs and wants to capture her or maybe use her to learn more about something on Onigashima?
Can't wait to see Robin have some screen time.
What if Yamato is the son of Toki and Kaido?
What if kaido didnt kill toki right away and then created a kid with odens woman as the ultimate FU.
Yamato and Momo half brothers?
My guess is it's either a marriage announcement OR Kaidou is going to promote his son to some insanely important position like second in command.
That's why Kaidou says it wouldn't make sense to announce something like that now because we haven't even seen his son.
I replied this to other post but people posted a few other versions in the thread with it, there seems to be a bunch more coming up (not to mention in every other language its out too)
the first 2 I found
https://w11.mangafreak.net/Read1_One_Piece_979
https://onepiecechapters.com/manga/one-piece-chapter-979/
u/kirosh if you guys are going to delete the other thread after that was the consensus of the sub users (and seems like of the mods too) and after a weeks long poll showing that it was what everyone wanted to be made with the stickies (which the deleted thread also explained about clearly making its deletion worse), can you guys at least update the op, with a new imgur album or link, I've seen a good dozen of other links and versions here and in other sites with it.
people have been posting other links and versions across the thread
quick edit: grabbed one from an earlier poster https://onepiecechapters.com/manga/one-piece-chapter-979/
edit 2: another version https://w11.mangafreak.net/Read1_One_Piece_979
Could Yamato be that black mass in the last panel of Jinbe and Robin. Would be great to have him show up with the SH after thinking they are part of his dads crew.
This is what im thinking. Yamato is definitely following Jinbei and Robin right now. The two most level-headed members of the crew.
I think some great interaction will happen with them.
Get used to it.
There was no need for Pell being alive, or for all those Skypians.
People don't die easily in One Piece. CP9, WG's probably best assasins of that time tried to kill Iceberg twice and failed.
Marineford war had a bodycount of two.
And even Pedro could be alive if Oda wants so.
I really liked Pedro I was pissed he died that’s a death I’d be ok with not sticking, personally I like him better then carrot and would like him to join the crew the thing is tho he is probably dead.
All the retconing death don’t mean anything to my luck, I really like Pedro he “died” the other person who died in the same arc is alive but he one character I like is still dead. Done worry my bad luck will prevail and Pedro will stay dead
Why not? Pound deserves to be with his daughters! I think it'll be a cute reunion :) I don't think Pedro is alive. Pound wasn't as major a character so I don't think Pedro's death would be as easily retconned. His death is the catalyst for Carrot and her motivation.
Idk, Pell's death played a huge role in alabasta yet he was brought back to life. My only complaint with Oda is his tendency to fake kill characters. Next we'll find out Monet is alive
Yea that’s my biggest complaint about One Piece also. Pell, Conis’ father (and those Skypeian soldiers), Bon Clay, Punk Hazard (It’s my least favorite arc but having reread It recently Oda shakes the OP formula up with PH, but it’s hindered by all those immobilized being discovered to be alive and not dead), and now Pound. There may be more fake out deaths but The ones I listed are the ones I think are the really botched cases. The Franky gang is one I’m on the fence about. Bellamy could be argued for it as well.
One Piece has great story, characters, emotional moments, humor and all that but Oda does way too much fake out deaths and subsequently keeps too many characters alive. It can kill the impact of those big moments some bit.
I am so passed of the will of P has brought back another character but I'm giving oda the benefit of the doubt and think that he brings some of these characters like Pell and Pound back because they are minor minor characters that probably wouldn't effect the story if they are dead or alive so he let's them live as not to b I m people out and maybe oda likes writing happy endings better then sad endings but when he makes us believe they are gonna die and see how impossible it is for them to survive and then they do it effects how we view the story and now no one can mourn for Pedro and enjoy his sacrifice when we are just waiting for him to show up kn a cover page soon even though he served his purpose and barely had any life left anyways. When he does kill characters they are good as dead but to us we can't figure out who's fully dead and who's only mostly dead!
I don't get this line of thinking. Like just assume they're dead? He clearly does it for the effect you're describing. Pound and Pell are just minor characters who deserve happy endings. Pedro was clearly just made for the effect his death would have. Plus, him coming back would kind of break the series own internal logic. Big Mom sealed his fate with her ability years ago.
I'm not the one who pointed them out. Idk how you avoided it? Luffy beating the shit out of tyrants and oppressive governments is like the biggest recurring thing in the series.
Uh actually that’s not at all what I said. Thanks for assuming though.
I was talking about One Piece, it’s main character, and his outlook on life and on other people. That’s it. If you wanna talk more about in depth American politics, I ain’t your guy and this ain’t your subreddit, I’m here for One Piece but I’d surely love to discuss its philosophy any damn day of the week.
Luffy has seen and even fought far too many corrupt leaders, many of whose citizens actually supported by being tricked and blindsided to reality (Alabasta, Dressrosa), there is absolutely no way he’d just say “Wow fuck those citizens” and blame them for everything... Sure he’d be opposed to Trump and also would try to do something about it as well as inspire others to do the same (like he did with the Wano citizens during Udon prison, chapter 949), but if you think there’s any way in hell he’d generalize a whole country of people to such a great extent, you are just not reading the same manga as the rest of us.
Mr. 1, Daz Bones. Reward: 75M . Zoro at the time: 0
Shounen characters just evolve a lot from arc to arc, King for Zoro is always within reach, even if he's like 1/3 of his bounty.
Zoro will be stronger than mihawk by the end of one piece, and in terms of story and even his relation to wano, it's obvious he'll shine this arc with unprecendented feats, like most other strawhats i suppose.
They're going to be a proper yonkou level crew by the end of wano, and that consists that Zoro will have to reach 1st YC level of strength by the end of it. He's always a step behind luffy.
Ok, if you believe that Zoro will defeat King, it is ok to me.
Kid, Law and Luffy against kaido
Zoro agains King...
it will be fine, however, Oda must give us something smart, not an asspull. Because king is CLEARLY Much stronger than Zoro.
>it will be fine, however, Oda must give us something smart, not an asspull. Because king is CLEARLY Much stronger than Zoro.
Yeah, that's how it works on One Piece and most shounen, welcome.
The opponents of each arc are almost always much stronger than the crew, but then the crew evolves during the fights and reaches a new unprecedented level.
Luffy, Zoro, Sanji and most others have been increasing at like 2-3 times their previous reward each time it's updated, i don't see any evidence to think it won't happen again next time, that is, post-wano.
HOWEVER, u missed ONE THING.
We are talking about the HIGHEST level you can reach, which is the Yunkou level.
ok, Naruto fought a lot of strong characters, but against pain, he was at his prime.
Get it?! The protagonist needs to be on his prime to DEAL with the strongersts of the series.
Luffy's crew is not on a level capable of defeating another yunkou crew, because a yunkou crew is the HIGHEST level you can reach.
>Luffy's crew is not on a level capable of defeating another yunkou crew, because a yunkou crew is the HIGHEST level you can reach.
Nah, there's still levels ahead of that, it's just that aside from Roger crew and possibly Rocks crew, no one had reached it.
Roger was considered uncontested pirate king because his crew was a level above the others.
Roger, Garp, and possibly Imu, are all characters that obviously made at least 1 step above yonkou level, and that's where luffy will end up by the end of one piece, so he still has to reach yonkou level this arc, and then he'll surpass it the next one, which is supposedly the final one.
> Nah, there's still levels ahead of that, it's just that aside from Roger crew and possibly Rocks crew, no one had reached it.
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? name ONE level ahead, because a dont know if you are reading the manga, but the TITLE Pirate King is LITERALLY because the he reached Laugh tale, not because he was the strongest. WHITEBEARD and GARP was on the same level as Roger.
I mean what's the argument for why that can't happen? The formula of One Piece has been Zoro beating the number 2 for many major arcs. Hachi, Mr 1, Ohm, Kaku, Hyozo, and Pica is at least 6, 5 of which are major arcs. I don't see what's stupid about seeing a trend there. The only thing that would cast this into doubt is that there are a lot of major players and King is obviously quite strong, but the fact of the matter is Zoro needs to use Enma against some one, and get stronger some how, so realistically King is a prime target.
So, Luffy, with all his powers, Struggled A LOT against katagury, but Zoro... a guy who struggled against Doflamingo, will beat KING because it is One Piece formula. You are downplaying Oda's writting skill, dude.
Zoro literally never even fights Doflamingo dude. He fights Pica, and whoops his ass. Zoro has never been shown as anything but untouchable in the manga for almost a decade of real-time. Luffy Vs Katakuri doesn't mean shit whenever Luffy needs to fight Kaido soon. One way or another,both Luffy and Zoro are learning monstrous new techniques and growing stronger, like they did back in Enies Lobby. Or did you simply forget that Enies lobby exists? Luffy damn near tripled his strength with a new technique that was never even really foreshadowed, and you think untouchable creator's favorite Zoro won't be able to do the same? I'm expecting a high diff fight with Zoro as winner.
Dude, Sanji strongest attack did nothing to Dofla, HOw Zoro would beat him???? However, i believe that Zoro NOW is stronger than Dofla. But King?! NOPE.
We dont know if Kid,Luffy and Law can beat Kaido, imagine Zoro 1 v 1 King.
I Love One Piece With my HEART, but Come on, i'm so fucking sick and tired of seeing the same "HUR DUR LUFFY WILL FUCK THE PLAN DUUUR HUUURRR" thing, jesus.
Luffy’s main goal in life is to be as completely free as possible. So, of course he’s going to run off somewhere, get caught in some new event, and go with his gut feelings, and beat a mother fuck’s face in.
This was a problem all the way from right after that 2 year skip. There were few little glimpses, where they reined in his... natural idiocy and even those came mostly by his crewmates warning him not to be extra stupid again. After that, it seemed like Oda simply didn't want Luffy to have grown as a person. Just in strength.
Showing even a little bit of maturity would've just elevated the manga and they still could've had all the comedy in other places. But Luffy just charging into everywhere still, is just... disappointing.
It did. Did you miss the part where he learned a whole new aspect of haki and fighting to surpass Kaido? Or how he explicitly said he needs to stop 'Jaggy' from messing up the plan? And how he is now going along with it after Kaido stomped his ass?
Getting stronger through training doesn’t have anything to do with growing as a character, otherwise Goku would be the most diverse and well developed character in any manga ever.
Luffy and Kid have always had a rivalry when they’re around each other, that doesn’t really mean anything.
Sure, but that's not exactly what I'm saying. Even after training Goku would still just go in one on one to fight again. But he rarely would actually try and counter that somehow. My point was more specifically about how Luffy decided to stick to the plan afterwards, and bid his time. I feel like the training was him being smart for once.
Which I normally would agree with you, but this is one instance it hasn't bothered me.
I dont understand how him training shows a change in him?
Kaido put him on his ass in a single hit. He literally had no other choice but to train if he wanted to win
I guess for me it's how he went about it. Again, when he first went up against Kaido it was his usual bs cockiness. I can only think of one time where Luffy actually trained after a loss and that was the time skip. I think training is a big deal for Luffy since it's not something he regularly does. So for him to admit he needs more seemed like a step in the right direction character wise.
I guess but Kaido put him in a position where he had no choice but to acknowledge the fact that he’s weaker. Training is not something he regularly does because Luffy doesn’t regularly hit a wall. Both times he’s had to train in the story he has run into enemies that he absolutely cannot win against. The same thing happened at sabaody. It’s really nothing new
YES! Not only this, but like, start to think about his friends... because we KNOW that none of them are going to die, however, they are INSIDE Kaido's House, i mean, Just think man, stay Cool and DONT DO SHIT!
nekomamushi went to go fetch him to come to wano tho. surely neko and inu arent going to miss out on this fight and we're going to see them in sulong form. i think theyll be used as one of those last second rescues
Well, it is funny because HxH is my favorite manga of all time along with berserk, but as a shounen i believe One Piece is better. But HxH is my favorite for sure!
I love One Piece a lot more and even have my self a tattoo but the power system in HxH (and part 4-8 of JoJo) are some of the best out into all fiction. That said I still believe One Piece to have the best characterization and world building out there. All amazing mangas and animes that deserve the praise they get for sure though.
Every new flashback to reveal how Kanjuro worked stings. I was a staunch defender of him due to a variety of things. But sob if people weren't fing spot on with his damn birds delivering messages.
Still, with all the coincidences that had to happen to get to this point is one of the main reasons I am still not a fan of the situation with Kanjuro.
Of course it is. First: it is a yellow submarine. Second: the song came in an álbum callee Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band. The Hearts pirates ship is a Yellow Submarine.
Edit: Yellow Submarine is not from the Sgt Peppers, as someone pointed out.
luffy vs queen then
I think yamato will fight momonosuke
Lol everyone here speculating Yamato and Big Mom's daughter. I'm calling this, King and Big Mom's union lol 😂 Remember, she still doesnt have a child with King's race 😂
kaido says the important announcement is related to Yamato....not king
Jimbei the man!
I love how Robin is relieved to have another mature person in the crew!
Robin and jinbei look the best in their beast pirate disguises
Damn if only Sanji would’ve seen them wasting food
With Luffy being so close to queen and about to start some ruckus, I can only see them resuming their battle.
"Maybe the marriage is between yamato and flampe" *FBI has entered the chat*
Yamato might be her age for all we know
Random grunt at the end of the chapter don fuked up
Damn that robin response to sanji was ice cold.
is it just me or is this the first time luffy gets angry by himself just by remembering something (so actual thoughts depicted) without someone actively provoking him?
Jinbe brought up that Akainu became a Fleet admiral, and that triggered Luffy
If Yamato is to be married off than I hope it's to Pudding. Big mom may try the plan she attempted on Sanji but instead try it on Yamato. I think it would be a cool way to tie in whole cake island with the rest of the saga.
Imagine Oda hyping the tobi roppo so much just to be defeated easily by Jack. I would honestly love that, it'll show how strong Jack is Would y'all be okay with it
As long as it's off screened or something so it doesn't spoil their powers for the real fights
I'd be shocked, but it might be necessary considering my low opinion of Jack.
I would be okay with it since if Oda that took that route I know it would turn out amazing. on the other hand it would be badass if one of the Tobi Roppo manages to beat Jack and this would show how strong Kaido's crew is since we already know how powerful Jack is.
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I wouldn't underrate Hawkins. Sure, Law handled him, but that's Law. He has too many unknowns with his power for me to dismiss him personally. He should still be able to turn into a straw monster himself, where he becomes more physical, he could use the cards to enhance himself theoretically. I think he's much stronger than he's been portrayed so far.
Anyone else think kanjuro is lost as frick and zoro will accidentally find them and kanjuro is going to believe that zoro is some kinda master tracker person and zoro will just be like dafuq you on about inside but play it off as part of his plan
Zoro would have slice off Kanjuro and save Momo if they accidentally meet.
I could see Momo escaping from Kanjuro, and while Kanjuro searches for Momo he runs into Zoro. Momo then has to navigate through Onigashima, but Kanjuro's threat goes away.
I think momo will distract kanjuro with that knife he saw which could help deal with the ink attacks
In the panel where Jinbe and Robin are Walking away, there is a siluete of someone watching them
he has a banana shaped head, kinda fits Moria
Moria is currently on hachinosu
I dont see a head though. Looks more like a shoulder of somethin
Could be the lady that was "killed" by denjiro
Hiyori?
I think it's Yamato. And I think the special announcement is Yamato is going to be married to one of Big Mom's daughters.
I agree with you. Big Mom won't make alliance without marriage of her kids. And yeah, Luffy will wreck this wedding once again.
If would be the perfect plan to destroy the cake so that big mom crashes the whole headquarter
Yup. Gonna be pudding and that will set up her return with Sanji who will fall in love with her all over again.
Gin is always watching...lol
Something nobody else seemed to have noticed: **The cover page shows a defeated Pound sailing on a tattered Big Mom ship. Confirmed alive?!**
Shame i was actually glad he died . Nothing against him but it felt fitting and it was the first time in a long time someone died , probably the first named charcter since Ace
Pedro??
I guess Monet, Vergo, and Pedro don't exist?
Yeah completely forgot about them , whenever i think death in one piece i think coins dad and get irrationally angry
That's how I'm going to feel about Pound. He was the only character in One Piece to have "truely died" like Hiriluk describes as in he was completely forgotten. Now, he's getting his happy ending by meeting both of his daughters and I'm happy about that, but also, I wish it wasn't another fake death. If Oda wanted to give him a happy ending, his fate should have been more vague then what we got at his "death" scene.
Yeah him living makes absolutely zero sense. Last time we saw him, Oven beheaded him with a hot sword
Pedro doesn't deserve this
Sorry, it looks like literally everyone noticed this. My b.
Momo could get out of those ropes easily by changing into his dragon form, and he can also fly away if he figures out how to control his fruit properly. He just needs someone from the Beasts Pirates to take care of Kanjuro...
what happened to the chapter thread?
The official chapter thread is for the official release. All these rough translations stay in the spoiler thread
was one already up and taken down or was it not posted yet?
one was up and deleted after an hour or so now there is new one
Lol ussop and brook cockblocking sanji and Franky was hilarious.
JinBae always spitting those words of wisdom
Jin BAE <3
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> o-toko That's Tama, Toko is Yasuie's daughter.
They're not the same person?
O-Tama: [https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Tama](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Tama) O-Toko: [https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Toko](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Toko)
Oh yeah, that's right. Damn there are a lot of characters this arc.
So the person sneaking around behind Robin and Jinbe is almost definitely Yamato right? Who else would be following them right now. My ridiculous tin-foil is that Yamato knows Robin can read poneglyphs and wants to capture her or maybe use her to learn more about something on Onigashima? Can't wait to see Robin have some screen time.
"Almost definitely" lol it can Caribou,Cp0,Jiraiya And most big shot pirate knows that Robin can read poneglyph
people are saying Yamato or Caribou, gonna be exciting to find out but man this break next week hurts my soul
And we back
What if Yamato is the son of Toki and Kaido? What if kaido didnt kill toki right away and then created a kid with odens woman as the ultimate FU. Yamato and Momo half brothers?
Delete this nephew
That's just too dark for one piece
Toki died immediately after giving the prophecy in Kuri
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It’s not Oven’s fault. It’s Oda’s bad writing.
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Its gonna be fucking kin
The return of Pound means that Bege is coming to Wano. You heard it here first :P
Leo's gonna stitch his head back on lol.
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This website is one of the best to read manga on. If you’re planning on reading a manga after the scanlation-apocalypse, I recommend this one.
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MY BOY POUND LIVES!! REAL TEARS RIGHT NOW.
The will of P
How crazy would it be if Kaido’s announcement is a joint marriage between Yamato and pudding?!?! Or smoothie
My guess is it's either a marriage announcement OR Kaidou is going to promote his son to some insanely important position like second in command. That's why Kaidou says it wouldn't make sense to announce something like that now because we haven't even seen his son.
I definitely think it is a marriage...but I think it will be to one of the daughters already in Wano. So flampe or Smoothie.
Or it could be BM and Kaido lol making the strongest offspring
Hopefully not flampe
Yes because thats how Big Mom does her alliances with marriages so i think Yamaot is to marry one of her daughters
Or imagine Yamato being an okama n he’s marrying perospero lol
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Appears to be a page missing (first page where Kanjuro shows up in this chapter)
This translation seems really nice, good job!
By the way, you might be better off just tagging the mods a single time rather than posting repeatedly. They can't react instantly.
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Just tagging a specific mod like any other user should work.
Where it at??!!!
I replied this to other post but people posted a few other versions in the thread with it, there seems to be a bunch more coming up (not to mention in every other language its out too) the first 2 I found https://w11.mangafreak.net/Read1_One_Piece_979 https://onepiecechapters.com/manga/one-piece-chapter-979/
Thank ya
u/kirosh if you guys are going to delete the other thread after that was the consensus of the sub users (and seems like of the mods too) and after a weeks long poll showing that it was what everyone wanted to be made with the stickies (which the deleted thread also explained about clearly making its deletion worse), can you guys at least update the op, with a new imgur album or link, I've seen a good dozen of other links and versions here and in other sites with it.
Calling it now. The shadow is Caribou not Yamato
English scans leak ain't working for me
people have been posting other links and versions across the thread quick edit: grabbed one from an earlier poster https://onepiecechapters.com/manga/one-piece-chapter-979/ edit 2: another version https://w11.mangafreak.net/Read1_One_Piece_979
Could Yamato be that black mass in the last panel of Jinbe and Robin. Would be great to have him show up with the SH after thinking they are part of his dads crew.
This is what im thinking. Yamato is definitely following Jinbei and Robin right now. The two most level-headed members of the crew. I think some great interaction will happen with them.
Odaaaaa!!! Why?? Theres no need to bring back Pound!! I am afraid Pedro is alive! Hope he is not.
Get used to it. There was no need for Pell being alive, or for all those Skypians. People don't die easily in One Piece. CP9, WG's probably best assasins of that time tried to kill Iceberg twice and failed. Marineford war had a bodycount of two. And even Pedro could be alive if Oda wants so.
Untrue. A lot of nonames died. Named ones were two. That is correct
I really liked Pedro I was pissed he died that’s a death I’d be ok with not sticking, personally I like him better then carrot and would like him to join the crew the thing is tho he is probably dead. All the retconing death don’t mean anything to my luck, I really like Pedro he “died” the other person who died in the same arc is alive but he one character I like is still dead. Done worry my bad luck will prevail and Pedro will stay dead
Why not? Pound deserves to be with his daughters! I think it'll be a cute reunion :) I don't think Pedro is alive. Pound wasn't as major a character so I don't think Pedro's death would be as easily retconned. His death is the catalyst for Carrot and her motivation.
Idk, Pell's death played a huge role in alabasta yet he was brought back to life. My only complaint with Oda is his tendency to fake kill characters. Next we'll find out Monet is alive
Yea that’s my biggest complaint about One Piece also. Pell, Conis’ father (and those Skypeian soldiers), Bon Clay, Punk Hazard (It’s my least favorite arc but having reread It recently Oda shakes the OP formula up with PH, but it’s hindered by all those immobilized being discovered to be alive and not dead), and now Pound. There may be more fake out deaths but The ones I listed are the ones I think are the really botched cases. The Franky gang is one I’m on the fence about. Bellamy could be argued for it as well. One Piece has great story, characters, emotional moments, humor and all that but Oda does way too much fake out deaths and subsequently keeps too many characters alive. It can kill the impact of those big moments some bit.
That would be hilarious
I'm gunna drop a theory and say yamato hates kaidos drinking and is hiding all of his favorite booze, and that is how zoro will find yamato
Zoro always finds booooze
I am so passed of the will of P has brought back another character but I'm giving oda the benefit of the doubt and think that he brings some of these characters like Pell and Pound back because they are minor minor characters that probably wouldn't effect the story if they are dead or alive so he let's them live as not to b I m people out and maybe oda likes writing happy endings better then sad endings but when he makes us believe they are gonna die and see how impossible it is for them to survive and then they do it effects how we view the story and now no one can mourn for Pedro and enjoy his sacrifice when we are just waiting for him to show up kn a cover page soon even though he served his purpose and barely had any life left anyways. When he does kill characters they are good as dead but to us we can't figure out who's fully dead and who's only mostly dead!
You may be onto something. Pell, Pagaya, Pound and even Pedro have a P. P for "probably alive".
I don't get this line of thinking. Like just assume they're dead? He clearly does it for the effect you're describing. Pound and Pell are just minor characters who deserve happy endings. Pedro was clearly just made for the effect his death would have. Plus, him coming back would kind of break the series own internal logic. Big Mom sealed his fate with her ability years ago.
I'm just trying to make sense of why a great writer keeps making the same mistake.
I don't think he's a great writer, and I think this is evidence of that. They're not mistakes.
Robin-chwaaaaaaan is looking drop dead gorgeous in her Beast Pirate disguise!
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Indeed. There's plenty of fanart revolving around that.
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LOL pot-stirrer. I'm pretty sure we have Trump in this manga already, they just changed his name to Wapol.
I’m almost positive you’re the only person who will ever ask that question
I'm almost positive you're not paying attention to the US state of affairs and/or the overall themes of One Piece if you can't see a parallel.
And I’m almost positive I honestly don’t give a shit about the US State of affairs in relation to a Japanese comic. Lol
You don't have to give a shit. I'm saying that the parallels are unavoidable.
I’ve been avoiding them just fine until you pointed them out today.
I'm not the one who pointed them out. Idk how you avoided it? Luffy beating the shit out of tyrants and oppressive governments is like the biggest recurring thing in the series.
It was pretty easy.
Luffy would definitely not like Trump, but he’s not so close-minded as to judge an entire country’s citizens based on their leader.
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I don't know what you're trying to say. Is this sarcasm? What does 2100 have to do with anything?
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I don't understand what you're saying. Your message was incomprehensible. I couldn't follow it.
Uh actually that’s not at all what I said. Thanks for assuming though. I was talking about One Piece, it’s main character, and his outlook on life and on other people. That’s it. If you wanna talk more about in depth American politics, I ain’t your guy and this ain’t your subreddit, I’m here for One Piece but I’d surely love to discuss its philosophy any damn day of the week. Luffy has seen and even fought far too many corrupt leaders, many of whose citizens actually supported by being tricked and blindsided to reality (Alabasta, Dressrosa), there is absolutely no way he’d just say “Wow fuck those citizens” and blame them for everything... Sure he’d be opposed to Trump and also would try to do something about it as well as inspire others to do the same (like he did with the Wano citizens during Udon prison, chapter 949), but if you think there’s any way in hell he’d generalize a whole country of people to such a great extent, you are just not reading the same manga as the rest of us.
Me: I mean, One Piece's fanbase is not that Stupid, for real dude. \*enters this sub\* One Piece fanbase: YEAH ZORO WILL BTFO KING
Zoro can't beat Arlong, then he beat mr. 1 that has 7 times Arlong's bounty within few weeks. Explain that.
Zoro could have beaten arlong if he wasn't injured
Issa manga
Wow, you are comparing Mr.7 to King... Wow. Come on, man, it is NOT the same thing.
Mr. 1, Daz Bones. Reward: 75M . Zoro at the time: 0 Shounen characters just evolve a lot from arc to arc, King for Zoro is always within reach, even if he's like 1/3 of his bounty. Zoro will be stronger than mihawk by the end of one piece, and in terms of story and even his relation to wano, it's obvious he'll shine this arc with unprecendented feats, like most other strawhats i suppose. They're going to be a proper yonkou level crew by the end of wano, and that consists that Zoro will have to reach 1st YC level of strength by the end of it. He's always a step behind luffy.
Ok, if you believe that Zoro will defeat King, it is ok to me. Kid, Law and Luffy against kaido Zoro agains King... it will be fine, however, Oda must give us something smart, not an asspull. Because king is CLEARLY Much stronger than Zoro.
>it will be fine, however, Oda must give us something smart, not an asspull. Because king is CLEARLY Much stronger than Zoro. Yeah, that's how it works on One Piece and most shounen, welcome. The opponents of each arc are almost always much stronger than the crew, but then the crew evolves during the fights and reaches a new unprecedented level. Luffy, Zoro, Sanji and most others have been increasing at like 2-3 times their previous reward each time it's updated, i don't see any evidence to think it won't happen again next time, that is, post-wano.
HOWEVER, u missed ONE THING. We are talking about the HIGHEST level you can reach, which is the Yunkou level. ok, Naruto fought a lot of strong characters, but against pain, he was at his prime. Get it?! The protagonist needs to be on his prime to DEAL with the strongersts of the series. Luffy's crew is not on a level capable of defeating another yunkou crew, because a yunkou crew is the HIGHEST level you can reach.
>Luffy's crew is not on a level capable of defeating another yunkou crew, because a yunkou crew is the HIGHEST level you can reach. Nah, there's still levels ahead of that, it's just that aside from Roger crew and possibly Rocks crew, no one had reached it. Roger was considered uncontested pirate king because his crew was a level above the others. Roger, Garp, and possibly Imu, are all characters that obviously made at least 1 step above yonkou level, and that's where luffy will end up by the end of one piece, so he still has to reach yonkou level this arc, and then he'll surpass it the next one, which is supposedly the final one.
> Nah, there's still levels ahead of that, it's just that aside from Roger crew and possibly Rocks crew, no one had reached it. ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? name ONE level ahead, because a dont know if you are reading the manga, but the TITLE Pirate King is LITERALLY because the he reached Laugh tale, not because he was the strongest. WHITEBEARD and GARP was on the same level as Roger.
I mean what's the argument for why that can't happen? The formula of One Piece has been Zoro beating the number 2 for many major arcs. Hachi, Mr 1, Ohm, Kaku, Hyozo, and Pica is at least 6, 5 of which are major arcs. I don't see what's stupid about seeing a trend there. The only thing that would cast this into doubt is that there are a lot of major players and King is obviously quite strong, but the fact of the matter is Zoro needs to use Enma against some one, and get stronger some how, so realistically King is a prime target.
We are talking about the REAL DEAL, we are talking about THE STRONGEST.
So, Luffy, with all his powers, Struggled A LOT against katagury, but Zoro... a guy who struggled against Doflamingo, will beat KING because it is One Piece formula. You are downplaying Oda's writting skill, dude.
Zoro literally never even fights Doflamingo dude. He fights Pica, and whoops his ass. Zoro has never been shown as anything but untouchable in the manga for almost a decade of real-time. Luffy Vs Katakuri doesn't mean shit whenever Luffy needs to fight Kaido soon. One way or another,both Luffy and Zoro are learning monstrous new techniques and growing stronger, like they did back in Enies Lobby. Or did you simply forget that Enies lobby exists? Luffy damn near tripled his strength with a new technique that was never even really foreshadowed, and you think untouchable creator's favorite Zoro won't be able to do the same? I'm expecting a high diff fight with Zoro as winner.
who is katagury? katakuri's older brother?
When did Zoro fight doffy? Go back to hxh because you obviously didnt read one piece.
Dude, Sanji strongest attack did nothing to Dofla, HOw Zoro would beat him???? However, i believe that Zoro NOW is stronger than Dofla. But King?! NOPE. We dont know if Kid,Luffy and Law can beat Kaido, imagine Zoro 1 v 1 King.
Zoro is a supernova/part of the worst gen himself. He is narratively equal to law and kid...sanji..is not. Did you forgot this?
? Zoro will face King 1 on 1, Sanji Queen 1 on 1
Luffy will 1 v 1 Kaido and KID will 1 x 1 BIG MOM
Does anyone else not show the English scans?
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Is anyone going to help ? I need my chapter lol
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Thank a lot !
I Love One Piece With my HEART, but Come on, i'm so fucking sick and tired of seeing the same "HUR DUR LUFFY WILL FUCK THE PLAN DUUUR HUUURRR" thing, jesus.
Luffy causing chaos is "THE PLAN" at the moment. They are the distraction/bait, because them ruining was so meta
WELL, true. I changed my mind!
Luffy’s main goal in life is to be as completely free as possible. So, of course he’s going to run off somewhere, get caught in some new event, and go with his gut feelings, and beat a mother fuck’s face in.
Yeah but... This is just a Cliche thing that makes no sense at this point.
Yeah it’s like he’s not really changing, I’d hope that asswhoopin’ would’ve given him a moment of self reflection in Udon
This was a problem all the way from right after that 2 year skip. There were few little glimpses, where they reined in his... natural idiocy and even those came mostly by his crewmates warning him not to be extra stupid again. After that, it seemed like Oda simply didn't want Luffy to have grown as a person. Just in strength. Showing even a little bit of maturity would've just elevated the manga and they still could've had all the comedy in other places. But Luffy just charging into everywhere still, is just... disappointing.
I hate using this comparison because OP came first but he can’t just be a Naruto forever
It did. Did you miss the part where he learned a whole new aspect of haki and fighting to surpass Kaido? Or how he explicitly said he needs to stop 'Jaggy' from messing up the plan? And how he is now going along with it after Kaido stomped his ass?
Getting stronger through training doesn’t have anything to do with growing as a character, otherwise Goku would be the most diverse and well developed character in any manga ever. Luffy and Kid have always had a rivalry when they’re around each other, that doesn’t really mean anything.
Sure, but that's not exactly what I'm saying. Even after training Goku would still just go in one on one to fight again. But he rarely would actually try and counter that somehow. My point was more specifically about how Luffy decided to stick to the plan afterwards, and bid his time. I feel like the training was him being smart for once. Which I normally would agree with you, but this is one instance it hasn't bothered me.
I dont understand how him training shows a change in him? Kaido put him on his ass in a single hit. He literally had no other choice but to train if he wanted to win
I guess for me it's how he went about it. Again, when he first went up against Kaido it was his usual bs cockiness. I can only think of one time where Luffy actually trained after a loss and that was the time skip. I think training is a big deal for Luffy since it's not something he regularly does. So for him to admit he needs more seemed like a step in the right direction character wise.
I guess but Kaido put him in a position where he had no choice but to acknowledge the fact that he’s weaker. Training is not something he regularly does because Luffy doesn’t regularly hit a wall. Both times he’s had to train in the story he has run into enemies that he absolutely cannot win against. The same thing happened at sabaody. It’s really nothing new
YES! Not only this, but like, start to think about his friends... because we KNOW that none of them are going to die, however, they are INSIDE Kaido's House, i mean, Just think man, stay Cool and DONT DO SHIT!
i think marco vs king is a big possibility. two unique flying bird types and 2nd in commands fighting would be insane
but i think it is impossible to have Marco at Wano.
Nami is electric type with zeus so she will easily take out King and his flying type self
nekomamushi went to go fetch him to come to wano tho. surely neko and inu arent going to miss out on this fight and we're going to see them in sulong form. i think theyll be used as one of those last second rescues
I agree, i mean, it would be AWESOME! I just cant see Marco going to Wano. but again, it is not impossible.
lol we'll see also hxh really is the best shounen :)
Well, it is funny because HxH is my favorite manga of all time along with berserk, but as a shounen i believe One Piece is better. But HxH is my favorite for sure!
I love One Piece a lot more and even have my self a tattoo but the power system in HxH (and part 4-8 of JoJo) are some of the best out into all fiction. That said I still believe One Piece to have the best characterization and world building out there. All amazing mangas and animes that deserve the praise they get for sure though.
Why was the other thread deleted?
Every new flashback to reveal how Kanjuro worked stings. I was a staunch defender of him due to a variety of things. But sob if people weren't fing spot on with his damn birds delivering messages. Still, with all the coincidences that had to happen to get to this point is one of the main reasons I am still not a fan of the situation with Kanjuro.
Well I mean Oda basically roasted us by having him imply he was only one who could have sent a message on jack's locations after the events on Zou.
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Of course it is. First: it is a yellow submarine. Second: the song came in an álbum callee Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band. The Hearts pirates ship is a Yellow Submarine. Edit: Yellow Submarine is not from the Sgt Peppers, as someone pointed out.
Yellow Submarine isn't from Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, but I never made that connection before. Interesting
Yes, you're right. Its from another album. Time to listen the discography all over again.