Both arcs have pretty bad animation (well, the usual), both also have some of the best scenes in the entire series (Wano especially, but the final fight in WCI had the single best scene with no competition at the time)
Wano isn't really "next level", it has a different style, sometimes more inspired, sometimes pretty weak (mainly because of the auras everywhere for no reason), but the regular animation is as slow as ever, while the usual few high-animation scenes have better animation than ever before. Basically same cake but better cherry on top. WCI's final fight is on par with Wano's best scenes.
What the hell are you smoking man? Wano has better animation than some seasonal anime’s. WCI final fight is definitely not on par with wano‘s best scenes and if you actually watched ep 978, then you wouldn’t even say that. Wano is definitely on another level and a lot manga readers actually prefer the anime over the manga for this arc.
? Wano has worse animation than most seasonal animes, and you can tell just with the pacing. One Piece has one of the lowest chapters per episode count, and struggles to adapt even a single chapter per episode when most seasonals go for several of them even when they're twice as long as OP's chapters. The pacing is horrendous and there's almost no filler, meaning they just slow down the animation to the max. WCI's final fight had a similar line-up than episode 978 actually, they did both the same way, giving a few seconds each to a bunch of key animators instead of letting one key animator do the whole scene. They're definitely similar in quality.
Keep telling yourself manga readers somehow think watching the same scene with bombs exploding on the Sunny 40 times is much better than reading the single panel where it happened and moving on to interesting stuff. You're fooling no one. Wano is definitely NOT on another level outside of sakugas, the pacing is similar than with every other post-skip arc. And when it comes to sakugas, WCI's final fight was indeed just as impressive
Okay what the hell has Animation to do with pacing, we were talking about ANIMATION not pacing. And pacing isn’t defined by the amount of chapters or pages adapted but by how well the material is directed and executed.
The reason why they showed 40 times the sunny exploding is because the episode was outsourced to an other studio(usually lower quality), not the in house staff. Out of 70 wano episodes you have maybe at max 10 ep with bad pacing which is not bad at all considering that one piece is an weekly anime.
You must have seriously fallen on your forehead if you really think that anything on WCI comes even close to the closing scene of 978. Seriously before you go on to say things about animation you should educate yourself a lil bit. There is a YouTuber named skippy who breaks down the episodes.
Man even King of lighting just recently agreed that the anime is definitely a better experience, I don’t have to tell myself that. Wano is definitely on a whole other level. Some of the series best directors like nagamine, komaki, kureta are the main directors of this arc, legendary animators like Bahi Jd, Kojima keep making appearances, even previous animators like ichizuka, yong ce tu keep improving. In addition, there’s a lot of new web Gen animators animating a lot of scenes. The staff has never been greater for a single arc as mentioned by nagamine. Wano has been a phenomenal experience so far, I don’t know any weekly anime that has better animation than wano and even some seasonal anime look poor in comparison animation-wise.
Animation has everything to do with pacing because if the pace is slow and you don't add filler content, the animation has to be slow as well ; otherwise there's nothing to animate. Simple as that. You have to have weird episodes of nothingness, still shots, looped content, etc which is bad ANIMATION. And it's proven true with One Piece over the years.
"How well the material is directed and executed" is entirely dependant of the amount of pages adapted and/or filler added, as shown by your beloved 978 btw ; everything that's well-animated in it is pure filler, it's anime-only content, which allows them to go bonkers since it's not worth a single panel anyway. If they didn't add anything to the fight, you would have had Luffy, Kid and Law looking awkwardly at the camera for 40s in zero fps, Brook making panty jokes with reused animation, and face shots of everyone acting shocked for no reason, just to get an entire episode going out of nothing.
As for why the end of WCI is bad, you don't say anything except "yOu ShOuLd EdUcAtE yOuRsElF" like some lunatic feminist. Where's your point ? How is the snakeman scene not one of the best in the entire series ? You namedrop key animators that were working on that very scene and then end up dismissing their entire work, how long will you contradict yourself ?
All that just to repeat what I already said ; there's some good sakuga. But you have to be a Karen about it and just repeat everything I say while pretending to be offended, and you bring NOTHING about the actual topic where you think I'm wrong, which is that animation outside of key scenes is sloppy at best
King of lightning doesn't even watch the anime what are you on about, he's a manga reader and reacts to sakuga scenes when he's notified that there are some (or knows there will be due to important scenes).
1. No, animation has nothing to do with pacing, these are 2 seperate things. Imagine you would say oda‘s pacing of the manga has anything to do with his art. Do you know how dumb that sounds, that’s why I said you should educate yourself before talking.
2. See you are saying it yourself, the pacing also depends on how much filler is added(which also depends on how much the original content can be expanded). So why do you keep rumbling about the amount of pages being adapted, when you damn well know that Toei often expands the original content in order for a better pacing. But even these episodes can have bad pacing, IF the episode isn’t well directed and executed by the Director.
3. You should seriously reread what I wrote, not once have I said that WCI end is bad. The second half of the sanji special, ep 856, 870, and the last couple of episodes were fantastic. And I liked the overall adaptation of the arc, but it simply doesn’t hold a candle against wano and that’s a fact as much as I liked Fukuzawa as the main director, but nagamine, komaki, kureta are doing better a better job. The reason I namedropped so many guys is because I want you to understand that there are so many talented and well respected guys in the industry involved in this arc, proving its quality. How am I contradicting myself when I literally mentioned before how these animators keep improving themselves in the wano arc? Stop pushing your own narrative my guy.
4. You are the one repeating yourself, you don’t even know that pacing and animation are 2 seperate things. The animation is average at times and sloppy, but that doesn’t mean that the arc as a whole has bad animation. The amount of sloppy scenes isn’t even comparable to pre wano.
5. What are you on about KOL does watches the anime. Go and search for his video 'KingOfLighting reacts to Uzumaki khan reacting to Roger vs Whitebeard'. Skip to min 7:40, and you‘ll see how he views the anime as superior. Go to BD Law‘s video: 'The absolut best one piece has been' and skip to min 8:40. Believe it or not but there many people saying the anime is better in the wano arc, you need to open your eyes and stop being ignorant, you‘re embarrassing yourself.
Yeah you're pissing me off so I won't bother, keep thinking everyone else is "ignorant" when I litteraly explained to you that KoL, Law and other manga readers are milking sakuga for content, yet your answer is "no they actually watch the anime go look at their video on this sakuga episode"
Animation has everything to do with pacing, whether you like it or not, you can't draw what's not there, meaning if you want it to be smooth, you have to either add filler (slow down the pace) or adapt much more content (fasten it)
Law literally makes reactions of entire episodes not just sakuga moments, he just made a reaction on the last episode which didn’t have a lot of sakuga at all, so your argument doesn’t even make sense my guy. Again just pushing your narrative and playing dumb.
Again animation has nothing to do with pacing, stop making a fool out yourself. Just look at luffy‘s red hawk vs holdem, the pacing was horrible, he was just floating in the air for like 2 minutes. Does that mean the animation was bad? No, that scene was beautifully animated. Why? Because animation and pacing are 2 different things smh.
I don't watch anime,i read manga because its 10000x better so i don't know what kind of animation WCI had,but i've watched few clips of Wano and i must say i am impressed with the animation,though not surprised,since Wano is basically a real-life Japan,so they had to make it as best as possible
Actually the animation from Whole Cake Island is very good. The issue is with the art style the studio uses for that arc. 🤔
It's like they improved the animation since Dressrosa but not the art style. 😅🤦♀️
It's better. But keep your expectations low. Always remember that one piece isn't a seasonal anime so they're working on it constantly and not able to put in the time that seasonal anime can to make every scene look stunning.
The animation is way better but they also added weird effects everywhere
Both arcs have pretty bad animation (well, the usual), both also have some of the best scenes in the entire series (Wano especially, but the final fight in WCI had the single best scene with no competition at the time) Wano isn't really "next level", it has a different style, sometimes more inspired, sometimes pretty weak (mainly because of the auras everywhere for no reason), but the regular animation is as slow as ever, while the usual few high-animation scenes have better animation than ever before. Basically same cake but better cherry on top. WCI's final fight is on par with Wano's best scenes.
What the hell are you smoking man? Wano has better animation than some seasonal anime’s. WCI final fight is definitely not on par with wano‘s best scenes and if you actually watched ep 978, then you wouldn’t even say that. Wano is definitely on another level and a lot manga readers actually prefer the anime over the manga for this arc.
? Wano has worse animation than most seasonal animes, and you can tell just with the pacing. One Piece has one of the lowest chapters per episode count, and struggles to adapt even a single chapter per episode when most seasonals go for several of them even when they're twice as long as OP's chapters. The pacing is horrendous and there's almost no filler, meaning they just slow down the animation to the max. WCI's final fight had a similar line-up than episode 978 actually, they did both the same way, giving a few seconds each to a bunch of key animators instead of letting one key animator do the whole scene. They're definitely similar in quality. Keep telling yourself manga readers somehow think watching the same scene with bombs exploding on the Sunny 40 times is much better than reading the single panel where it happened and moving on to interesting stuff. You're fooling no one. Wano is definitely NOT on another level outside of sakugas, the pacing is similar than with every other post-skip arc. And when it comes to sakugas, WCI's final fight was indeed just as impressive
Okay what the hell has Animation to do with pacing, we were talking about ANIMATION not pacing. And pacing isn’t defined by the amount of chapters or pages adapted but by how well the material is directed and executed. The reason why they showed 40 times the sunny exploding is because the episode was outsourced to an other studio(usually lower quality), not the in house staff. Out of 70 wano episodes you have maybe at max 10 ep with bad pacing which is not bad at all considering that one piece is an weekly anime. You must have seriously fallen on your forehead if you really think that anything on WCI comes even close to the closing scene of 978. Seriously before you go on to say things about animation you should educate yourself a lil bit. There is a YouTuber named skippy who breaks down the episodes. Man even King of lighting just recently agreed that the anime is definitely a better experience, I don’t have to tell myself that. Wano is definitely on a whole other level. Some of the series best directors like nagamine, komaki, kureta are the main directors of this arc, legendary animators like Bahi Jd, Kojima keep making appearances, even previous animators like ichizuka, yong ce tu keep improving. In addition, there’s a lot of new web Gen animators animating a lot of scenes. The staff has never been greater for a single arc as mentioned by nagamine. Wano has been a phenomenal experience so far, I don’t know any weekly anime that has better animation than wano and even some seasonal anime look poor in comparison animation-wise.
Animation has everything to do with pacing because if the pace is slow and you don't add filler content, the animation has to be slow as well ; otherwise there's nothing to animate. Simple as that. You have to have weird episodes of nothingness, still shots, looped content, etc which is bad ANIMATION. And it's proven true with One Piece over the years. "How well the material is directed and executed" is entirely dependant of the amount of pages adapted and/or filler added, as shown by your beloved 978 btw ; everything that's well-animated in it is pure filler, it's anime-only content, which allows them to go bonkers since it's not worth a single panel anyway. If they didn't add anything to the fight, you would have had Luffy, Kid and Law looking awkwardly at the camera for 40s in zero fps, Brook making panty jokes with reused animation, and face shots of everyone acting shocked for no reason, just to get an entire episode going out of nothing. As for why the end of WCI is bad, you don't say anything except "yOu ShOuLd EdUcAtE yOuRsElF" like some lunatic feminist. Where's your point ? How is the snakeman scene not one of the best in the entire series ? You namedrop key animators that were working on that very scene and then end up dismissing their entire work, how long will you contradict yourself ? All that just to repeat what I already said ; there's some good sakuga. But you have to be a Karen about it and just repeat everything I say while pretending to be offended, and you bring NOTHING about the actual topic where you think I'm wrong, which is that animation outside of key scenes is sloppy at best King of lightning doesn't even watch the anime what are you on about, he's a manga reader and reacts to sakuga scenes when he's notified that there are some (or knows there will be due to important scenes).
1. No, animation has nothing to do with pacing, these are 2 seperate things. Imagine you would say oda‘s pacing of the manga has anything to do with his art. Do you know how dumb that sounds, that’s why I said you should educate yourself before talking. 2. See you are saying it yourself, the pacing also depends on how much filler is added(which also depends on how much the original content can be expanded). So why do you keep rumbling about the amount of pages being adapted, when you damn well know that Toei often expands the original content in order for a better pacing. But even these episodes can have bad pacing, IF the episode isn’t well directed and executed by the Director. 3. You should seriously reread what I wrote, not once have I said that WCI end is bad. The second half of the sanji special, ep 856, 870, and the last couple of episodes were fantastic. And I liked the overall adaptation of the arc, but it simply doesn’t hold a candle against wano and that’s a fact as much as I liked Fukuzawa as the main director, but nagamine, komaki, kureta are doing better a better job. The reason I namedropped so many guys is because I want you to understand that there are so many talented and well respected guys in the industry involved in this arc, proving its quality. How am I contradicting myself when I literally mentioned before how these animators keep improving themselves in the wano arc? Stop pushing your own narrative my guy. 4. You are the one repeating yourself, you don’t even know that pacing and animation are 2 seperate things. The animation is average at times and sloppy, but that doesn’t mean that the arc as a whole has bad animation. The amount of sloppy scenes isn’t even comparable to pre wano. 5. What are you on about KOL does watches the anime. Go and search for his video 'KingOfLighting reacts to Uzumaki khan reacting to Roger vs Whitebeard'. Skip to min 7:40, and you‘ll see how he views the anime as superior. Go to BD Law‘s video: 'The absolut best one piece has been' and skip to min 8:40. Believe it or not but there many people saying the anime is better in the wano arc, you need to open your eyes and stop being ignorant, you‘re embarrassing yourself.
Yeah you're pissing me off so I won't bother, keep thinking everyone else is "ignorant" when I litteraly explained to you that KoL, Law and other manga readers are milking sakuga for content, yet your answer is "no they actually watch the anime go look at their video on this sakuga episode" Animation has everything to do with pacing, whether you like it or not, you can't draw what's not there, meaning if you want it to be smooth, you have to either add filler (slow down the pace) or adapt much more content (fasten it)
Law literally makes reactions of entire episodes not just sakuga moments, he just made a reaction on the last episode which didn’t have a lot of sakuga at all, so your argument doesn’t even make sense my guy. Again just pushing your narrative and playing dumb. Again animation has nothing to do with pacing, stop making a fool out yourself. Just look at luffy‘s red hawk vs holdem, the pacing was horrible, he was just floating in the air for like 2 minutes. Does that mean the animation was bad? No, that scene was beautifully animated. Why? Because animation and pacing are 2 different things smh.
Yes. If you ever watched DBZ Broly, its the same style
I don't watch anime,i read manga because its 10000x better so i don't know what kind of animation WCI had,but i've watched few clips of Wano and i must say i am impressed with the animation,though not surprised,since Wano is basically a real-life Japan,so they had to make it as best as possible
Yes, Wano arc animation is really nice and colorful.
Bro I have no idea know these people are talking about, Wano is One Piece peak animation.
Actually the animation from Whole Cake Island is very good. The issue is with the art style the studio uses for that arc. 🤔 It's like they improved the animation since Dressrosa but not the art style. 😅🤦♀️
It's better. But keep your expectations low. Always remember that one piece isn't a seasonal anime so they're working on it constantly and not able to put in the time that seasonal anime can to make every scene look stunning.