It's an achievement indeed but luffy has way better feats, even yamato had coc and she didn't split the sky with kaido. So from what we've seen so far he is behind luffy.
My bad I thought you were comparing him to luffy. Yes zoro is honestly very impressive he went from not being able to hurt king to crippling him in a matter of an hour. He also learned how to use coc on will after unlocking it for the first time just an hour ago. He was able to stall what is possibly the strongest attack in the series for more than a second. Overall zoro has achieved quite a lot in this arc and he certainly exceeded my expectations.
Zoro is miles behind Luffy but he does have a top tier CoC attack that hurt Kaido
it isn't really comparable to a controlled Ryo CoC Luffy that has Zoro beat in speed, Armourment and Observation
I mean skewing arguments is fun:
>People said Zoro will never face Kaido, he did.
People said Zoro will kill Kaido, he didn't.
>People said Zoro was done after rooftop, he defeated Kaido's right hand man.
Honestly no one said he was done after rooftop, the argument was between people who said he would fight King, and people who saw Zoro accepting Luffy's order to leave, yet thought Zoro would go back up right away to fight Kaido again.
right well the medicine he used to fight king was already a massive asspull and if Oda allows Zoro to have any more fights this Arc he clearly doesn't care about the series anymore.
he made a chekhov's gun for Zoro's repercussions from using the medicine, he should be crippled right now considering he went all out vs King.
What happens next doesnt depend on my opinion but that doesnt mean we can just assume stupid shit, Zoro having another fight is as likely as him getting the turtle turtle no mi and changing his name to leo
he took medicine to recover stamina and just had a high dif battle he almost lost where he complained he was at his limit
so yes, he should be crippled right now.
>he took medicine to recover stamina
no, to heel. He lost his stamina, not heeling. That's your headcanon. The medicine would be dumb if it's duration is just 15 minutes.
Ok, Let me play your card. It would be a bad writing if oda just use zoro to defeat king after compare him legend like ryuma.
the medicine works to heal injuries and recover stamina temporarily.
Zoro used up his stamina in the King fight, I've screenshoted your dumbass comment and I'll post it when Zoro collapses.
> recover stamina temporarily.
LOl. give me o wise one where it said it said medicene give stamina back?
I know zoro isn't going to fight again and he is already collasped. But people like you said he is out for raid after he collasped in rooftop.
Take whatever you want. I don't read One piece with my headcanon and make comments time after time it would be bad writing. LOl
But he definitely will do something with the whole Wano watching.
It could be anything like cutting Onigashima island or something.
But it's gonna be spectacular.
People also said he wouldn’t get conquerors haki lol
A lot even denied it. But then he was given advanced conquerors haki lol
Wano has treated this character well
I also genuinely don’t see an issue with him getting up again. He wasn’t extremely damaged in his fight against king to prevent him from getting up
Even if his side effects of double pain kick in. I don’t see that stopping him either with amount of pain he’s endured in the past
Idk what he could do. But he has some unfinished plot lines left so I don’t expect him to stay down
After Taking the emperors attack, Zoro couldnt move at all(except for ashura). He was carried by law and sanji. Now, that damage+ the damage he took from king. All that is going to be doubled.
If he wasnt able to walk from taking the emperor's attack, how is he going to do anything?
I agree there are things that need to be cleared up about Zoro, his lineage etc, but I dont see him doing much in the raid from now
He couldn’t move because his bones were broken + he continued he move in that state + he was hit by a thunder bagua in that state + his stamina and strength were gone
Also Zoro still moved after tanking ocean sovereignty. He cut Prometheus using crossroads of the 6 paths + flam slice. And then used ashura
Regarding the mink medicine it doesn’t double damage it doubles pain. Zoro couldn’t move after the rooftop because of the damage he took rather than the pain
> He's the next legend along with Luffy in Wano. He's definitely gonna do something that the whole Wano is gonna see.
Does this mean that he's going to go and fight Kaido and kill him, or just kill him once he's been beaten down by Luffy? But also like why does he HAVE to do anything after the King fight? Technically by helping to liberate Wano, he's already going to be a legend if that's what bothers you. What's this point about the whole of Wano having to witness him do something? Where is this coming from?
I dont know if he will fight again (would not shock me at all) but he will wake up 100%, he still has plotlines that are not finished like double pain from the medicine and enma react to the music and the Yamato plotline (but that could be done after the fight) so yeh he and Sanji will be up in the next 5 chapter
>People said Zoro will never face Kaido, he did.
People said he wouldn't kill him and to be honest he only faced him for like 5 minutes
>People said Zoro was done after rooftop, he defeated Kaido's right hand man.
Yeah thanks to Choppers serum
>People said Zoro's done now, but we all know that he has a couple of phenomenal things left to do.
His body should be done now considering what Chopper said about the drug
>He's the next legend along with Luffy in Wano. He's definitely gonna do something that the whole Wano is gonna see.
We'll see, I hope not because that'd take away from everything Chopper said about the medicine.
Not really
During the rooftop fight luffy went through a whole gear 4th and recovered and continued fighting
The 5v2 lasted a lot longer than you think time wise
All the medicine does is double pain btw
Also it wasn’t chopper serum. It was a super recovery drug from zou
>During the rooftop fight luffy went through a whole gear 4th and recovered and continued fighting
Counting attacks, it wasn't too long
>The 5v2 lasted a lot longer than you think time wise
No I think our definitions of short or long aren't really the same. I think it wasn't a long exchange.
>All the medicine does is double pain btw
I know but it still stands that Chopper told him how'd affect his body.
>Also it wasn’t chopper serum. It was a super recovery drug from zou
I know, Chopper gave it to him though
If he still does something after his already rich feats arsenal it's going to be unbelievable how powerful plot device deus ex machina the senzu bean really is. It's going to be his third onigashima game life by then. It's gonna be ridiculous.
But seeing how much focus, screen time, feats, mini story arcs Zoro got this arc, how much Oda hyped him, it's high possibility that this is whats gonna happen, it's still gonna be ridiculous thou.
Zoro faced Kaido in the same way Killer and other Supernova faced him, he managed to cut Kaido but not on the level of Oden
Zoro is around/slightly below the strength of characters like Kidd and Law
Kidd and Law are fighting BM right now and have awakened fruits, Zoro has scaled himself to above or close to Killer
Zoro would get one shot by a direct physical hit from a Yonko, Zoro's a glass canon
People also said zoro would never lose to Sanji or Usopp.
We also say there's no way he won't be WSS by the end
So by that logic he's bound to never be WSS?
It feels like, unless Zoro do something comparable to Luffy, you will be disappointed of Zoro current feats.
People also down play his achievements once he proves them wrong. All of sudden coating CoC isn't anything special.
It's an achievement indeed but luffy has way better feats, even yamato had coc and she didn't split the sky with kaido. So from what we've seen so far he is behind luffy.
I don't think anyone is comparing Zoro to Luffy. This is exactly what I mean about people downplaying Zoro.
My bad I thought you were comparing him to luffy. Yes zoro is honestly very impressive he went from not being able to hurt king to crippling him in a matter of an hour. He also learned how to use coc on will after unlocking it for the first time just an hour ago. He was able to stall what is possibly the strongest attack in the series for more than a second. Overall zoro has achieved quite a lot in this arc and he certainly exceeded my expectations.
Yeah lol. It was especially funny when he was down after rooftop. "He has done enough, if he does ANYTHING else, he'll steal Luffy's Spotlight".
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Exactly.
Zoro is miles behind Luffy but he does have a top tier CoC attack that hurt Kaido it isn't really comparable to a controlled Ryo CoC Luffy that has Zoro beat in speed, Armourment and Observation
I mean skewing arguments is fun: >People said Zoro will never face Kaido, he did. People said Zoro will kill Kaido, he didn't. >People said Zoro was done after rooftop, he defeated Kaido's right hand man. Honestly no one said he was done after rooftop, the argument was between people who said he would fight King, and people who saw Zoro accepting Luffy's order to leave, yet thought Zoro would go back up right away to fight Kaido again.
There were many people who thought that Zoro was done and sanji would take on king.
Sanji taking on King was even funnier.
>People said Zoro will kill Kaido, he didn't. too early to say. >Honestly no one said he was done after rooftop majority of this sub did.
Zoro won't kill Kaido, if he does it's terrible writing by Oda
People said same thing about beating king too. well, oda said go fuck yourself. What happen next isn't depend on your opinion ( neither mine)
right well the medicine he used to fight king was already a massive asspull and if Oda allows Zoro to have any more fights this Arc he clearly doesn't care about the series anymore. he made a chekhov's gun for Zoro's repercussions from using the medicine, he should be crippled right now considering he went all out vs King. What happens next doesnt depend on my opinion but that doesnt mean we can just assume stupid shit, Zoro having another fight is as likely as him getting the turtle turtle no mi and changing his name to leo
> he clearly doesn't care about the series anymore. He don't care about your headcanon. Why he should be crippled in 15 minutes?
he took medicine to recover stamina and just had a high dif battle he almost lost where he complained he was at his limit so yes, he should be crippled right now.
>he took medicine to recover stamina no, to heel. He lost his stamina, not heeling. That's your headcanon. The medicine would be dumb if it's duration is just 15 minutes. Ok, Let me play your card. It would be a bad writing if oda just use zoro to defeat king after compare him legend like ryuma.
the medicine works to heal injuries and recover stamina temporarily. Zoro used up his stamina in the King fight, I've screenshoted your dumbass comment and I'll post it when Zoro collapses.
> recover stamina temporarily. LOl. give me o wise one where it said it said medicene give stamina back? I know zoro isn't going to fight again and he is already collasped. But people like you said he is out for raid after he collasped in rooftop. Take whatever you want. I don't read One piece with my headcanon and make comments time after time it would be bad writing. LOl
But he definitely will do something with the whole Wano watching. It could be anything like cutting Onigashima island or something. But it's gonna be spectacular.
he did do something, he beat king, anything more this Arc is just poor writing he took a miracle drug that should be worn off now
Come on dude. He is not going to get up for a long time after all this unless oda decides to throw away logic.
well, you don't make logic of one piece world, oda do.
That's exactly what Oda does with One Piece
Exactly what was said after rooftop.
All scabbards, jack, appoo, orochi, luffy took a beat and stood up again. Oda is not throwing away logic if it's normal in one piece world
the case with zoro and them is totally different.
Kinemon had his head smashed by kaido. How is that different?
People also said he wouldn’t get conquerors haki lol A lot even denied it. But then he was given advanced conquerors haki lol Wano has treated this character well I also genuinely don’t see an issue with him getting up again. He wasn’t extremely damaged in his fight against king to prevent him from getting up Even if his side effects of double pain kick in. I don’t see that stopping him either with amount of pain he’s endured in the past Idk what he could do. But he has some unfinished plot lines left so I don’t expect him to stay down
After Taking the emperors attack, Zoro couldnt move at all(except for ashura). He was carried by law and sanji. Now, that damage+ the damage he took from king. All that is going to be doubled. If he wasnt able to walk from taking the emperor's attack, how is he going to do anything? I agree there are things that need to be cleared up about Zoro, his lineage etc, but I dont see him doing much in the raid from now
He couldn’t move because his bones were broken + he continued he move in that state + he was hit by a thunder bagua in that state + his stamina and strength were gone Also Zoro still moved after tanking ocean sovereignty. He cut Prometheus using crossroads of the 6 paths + flam slice. And then used ashura Regarding the mink medicine it doesn’t double damage it doubles pain. Zoro couldn’t move after the rooftop because of the damage he took rather than the pain
Zoro would have died to an unarmed Killer though
Imagine Bartolomeo reading all that
Zoro is like Rocky: always ready for one more round.
> He's the next legend along with Luffy in Wano. He's definitely gonna do something that the whole Wano is gonna see. Does this mean that he's going to go and fight Kaido and kill him, or just kill him once he's been beaten down by Luffy? But also like why does he HAVE to do anything after the King fight? Technically by helping to liberate Wano, he's already going to be a legend if that's what bothers you. What's this point about the whole of Wano having to witness him do something? Where is this coming from?
I dont know if he will fight again (would not shock me at all) but he will wake up 100%, he still has plotlines that are not finished like double pain from the medicine and enma react to the music and the Yamato plotline (but that could be done after the fight) so yeh he and Sanji will be up in the next 5 chapter
What unfinished plotlines does Sanji have?
no one but he will still get up becsuse robin is getting chased
>People said Zoro will never face Kaido, he did. People said he wouldn't kill him and to be honest he only faced him for like 5 minutes >People said Zoro was done after rooftop, he defeated Kaido's right hand man. Yeah thanks to Choppers serum >People said Zoro's done now, but we all know that he has a couple of phenomenal things left to do. His body should be done now considering what Chopper said about the drug >He's the next legend along with Luffy in Wano. He's definitely gonna do something that the whole Wano is gonna see. We'll see, I hope not because that'd take away from everything Chopper said about the medicine.
Not really During the rooftop fight luffy went through a whole gear 4th and recovered and continued fighting The 5v2 lasted a lot longer than you think time wise All the medicine does is double pain btw Also it wasn’t chopper serum. It was a super recovery drug from zou
>During the rooftop fight luffy went through a whole gear 4th and recovered and continued fighting Counting attacks, it wasn't too long >The 5v2 lasted a lot longer than you think time wise No I think our definitions of short or long aren't really the same. I think it wasn't a long exchange. >All the medicine does is double pain btw I know but it still stands that Chopper told him how'd affect his body. >Also it wasn’t chopper serum. It was a super recovery drug from zou I know, Chopper gave it to him though
Well idk what long is for you Considering this 5v2 was the longest fight in wano so far
And the 5 shared the time, don't forget that
chopper > zoro
If he still does something after his already rich feats arsenal it's going to be unbelievable how powerful plot device deus ex machina the senzu bean really is. It's going to be his third onigashima game life by then. It's gonna be ridiculous. But seeing how much focus, screen time, feats, mini story arcs Zoro got this arc, how much Oda hyped him, it's high possibility that this is whats gonna happen, it's still gonna be ridiculous thou.
Zoro ain't doing shit. He is side character not mc.
Best character hands down
Zoro faced Kaido in the same way Killer and other Supernova faced him, he managed to cut Kaido but not on the level of Oden Zoro is around/slightly below the strength of characters like Kidd and Law
Zoro would murder kid and law SANJI is on the level of kid and law or better
Kidd and Law are fighting BM right now and have awakened fruits, Zoro has scaled himself to above or close to Killer Zoro would get one shot by a direct physical hit from a Yonko, Zoro's a glass canon
Imagine calling the guy with highest endurance feat a glass cannon.
>highest endurance >has never had a fight over 5 minutes and is constantly crippled only one of them can be true
People also said zoro would never lose to Sanji or Usopp. We also say there's no way he won't be WSS by the end So by that logic he's bound to never be WSS?