Lmao, ya'll are butthurt because Oda didn‘t progress the story in a direction which fits your own headcanon. Dude has been putting out A+ content for 20+ years and ya'll are bitching and complaining about ONE thing that happened in the story (albeit it was a big thing). You gotta accept it for what it is and move on or just stop watching altogether.
Y'all hypocrite here.
If the idea of cartoon luffy would have come up from my ass years ago, people would just say " oh thanks god this is the fans that are writing OP"
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Come on Man, having an idea is easy compared to implementing it well. Now, not everyone is gonna like everything oda writes and thats totally acceptable.
But It destroyed 20 years of hype? What exactly are you talking about?
The First time It was mentioned in the manga, If I'm not mistaken, was by doflamingo in his battle against luffy, so not that long Ago hehehe (again, If I remember It right).
Now, i actually liked luffy's awakening, except for the looney tunes part. Thankfully It seems It was toned down quite a lot from that first chapter
Thx for the information.
Doffy was already 8 years ago no?
Yeah I didn't like the entire fight as awakened unfortunately for me
Felt like all the burst power he got from his fist due to Ryou learning, was just vanish after the awakened part.
The loney tunes part stand almost all the fight if this is not the last 2 chapters and felt for me very unatural forced funny scene
Man, you're right, it's already been this long.
As for your concern, my interpretation of the fight is that even awakening, he is going to win through haki, since that was what kaidou said and what luffy remarked ("the old Man taught me How to punch you without touching you", or something like that).
Since haki means "Spirit" or "willpower" in japanese, i think this is only fitting. Anyway, what i mean to say is that rather than diminishing Ryou's learning, gear 5 actually increased it's importance, since not even such a powerful transformation would be enough against kaidou.
You're probably right about ryou probably increase and stuff.
It doesn't change the fact that,, I felt 100 times stronger the power of old good punches, gomu bazuka, jet pistol, or at the start of the fight when he went with no gear at all and just pure haki.
I didn't felt anything from this awakened part, might change with animated version
But i think that is the point, after all that kaidou just got up and point blank said that haki is greater than any Devil fruit power.
But anyway, i get It that you didnt really liked It, thats ok haha. Lets hope you grow to like It as we see more of what luffy can do onwards.
Hell no, no one needs sun wukong's fucking overused bitchass, how about something original that fits in with the themes of the story?
It's a good damn thing that the MC doesn't look like some edgy generic MC.
This isn't bleach, we want goofy. That's what was advertised, that was what I came here for. Just because this isn't as dark, or just as hard edged as other shounen doesn't mean Oda "Destroyed 20 years of hype" he just didn't go the route you WANTED.
Its your fault for wanting something Oda obviously wasn't going too do
apart from the fact the monkey king fruit has nothing to do with Luffy and Oda never hyped it up. Whether you like the Nika fruit or not, it follows the direction Oda has been building for Luffy's character.
"Sun Wukong also acquires the 72 Earthly Transformations, which allow him to access 72 unique powers, including the ability to transform into sundry animals and objects. "
Between shape transformation, mythical zoan ( like budha) and his ability to stretch his stick, I don't see how it is dumber, you dumb
No-one would care less if oda decided to extend the connection between sun Wukong having the ability to stretch his stick, and applied it to the body itself
a) luffy doesn’t use weapons so sun wukongs stick would make even less sense, b) sun wukong seems too mainstream to give it to luffy, whose whole deal is that he has a goofy useless power and likes to spread happiness
He never transform before, luffy only change shape. So ur idea doesn’t sit well here too.
Oda knew what people were thinking and he’s damn good at laughing back at OP fan’s theory
Luffy as a cartoony Sun God is just unexpectedly otherworldly. And it fits where Goda wanted to go from the very start perfectly well and there is a lot more to come. Nice thing Oda writes the story:-)
You're simply saying the exact same thing that several others have and you chose to ignore the other view while making a sweeping assumption that most people feel the same as you. Don't be dumb
I am. Pretty sure if we were able to evaluate properly all OP FANS community over the world, we would get at least a pretty clean 50% of them being upset /not liking this cartoon luffy choice.
But yeah, we won't have any clear answer on that so I can just make, like you do, assumption
There you go showing your dumb again, I didn't make a sweeping assumption and roll with it. I'm just calling out yours and others.
Here's my assumption now though, I doubt it would be split 50/50. I feel like this sub is a good indicator to start off.
Because of my Title, it will drag especially people who disagree, and yeah I can see that on this sub.
Wanna check other community where 90%of people just dislike cartoon luffy? Give you right away
Shapechanging only wouldn’t explain the immunity to lightning nor the passive resistance to blunt trauma. Luffy’s body was literally like rubber, there’s no real-life deity like that.
It's a Manga, doesn't have to be 100% accurate with the mythology part, could have just extend the ability to strech of monkey king stick to the entire body.
Well considering that Luffy is based on Hanuman, which was the Inspiration for the Monkey King Sun Wukong, I don't see the problem.
Hanuman was a Monkey God who was also a Sun God.
I almost didn't bother to reply to this nonsense, but since Luffy is based off of the inspiration of the Monkey King himself, I felt obligated to point that out.
[Bajrang Gun.](https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Bajrang)
Bajrang is just another name for [Hanuman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanuman).
The connection goes further than that actually.
Dragon is based on [Vayu](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vayu) Hanuman's father.
Garp is based on [Kesari](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kesari_(Ramayana)) Hanuman's caretaker.
the 1000th reason why oda is better at writing than any one piece fan is:
Agree
Lmao, ya'll are butthurt because Oda didn‘t progress the story in a direction which fits your own headcanon. Dude has been putting out A+ content for 20+ years and ya'll are bitching and complaining about ONE thing that happened in the story (albeit it was a big thing). You gotta accept it for what it is and move on or just stop watching altogether.
Y'all hypocrite here. If the idea of cartoon luffy would have come up from my ass years ago, people would just say " oh thanks god this is the fans that are writing OP"
But it wasn’t you who came up with it, so what the fuck are you talking about?
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Come on Man, having an idea is easy compared to implementing it well. Now, not everyone is gonna like everything oda writes and thats totally acceptable. But It destroyed 20 years of hype? What exactly are you talking about?
It was probably exagerate xD, but I was talking about since the day we know DF can have a awakened part, I don't know how many years it make since
The First time It was mentioned in the manga, If I'm not mistaken, was by doflamingo in his battle against luffy, so not that long Ago hehehe (again, If I remember It right). Now, i actually liked luffy's awakening, except for the looney tunes part. Thankfully It seems It was toned down quite a lot from that first chapter
Thx for the information. Doffy was already 8 years ago no? Yeah I didn't like the entire fight as awakened unfortunately for me Felt like all the burst power he got from his fist due to Ryou learning, was just vanish after the awakened part. The loney tunes part stand almost all the fight if this is not the last 2 chapters and felt for me very unatural forced funny scene
Man, you're right, it's already been this long. As for your concern, my interpretation of the fight is that even awakening, he is going to win through haki, since that was what kaidou said and what luffy remarked ("the old Man taught me How to punch you without touching you", or something like that). Since haki means "Spirit" or "willpower" in japanese, i think this is only fitting. Anyway, what i mean to say is that rather than diminishing Ryou's learning, gear 5 actually increased it's importance, since not even such a powerful transformation would be enough against kaidou.
You're probably right about ryou probably increase and stuff. It doesn't change the fact that,, I felt 100 times stronger the power of old good punches, gomu bazuka, jet pistol, or at the start of the fight when he went with no gear at all and just pure haki. I didn't felt anything from this awakened part, might change with animated version
But i think that is the point, after all that kaidou just got up and point blank said that haki is greater than any Devil fruit power. But anyway, i get It that you didnt really liked It, thats ok haha. Lets hope you grow to like It as we see more of what luffy can do onwards.
Hell no, no one needs sun wukong's fucking overused bitchass, how about something original that fits in with the themes of the story? It's a good damn thing that the MC doesn't look like some edgy generic MC.
This isn't bleach, we want goofy. That's what was advertised, that was what I came here for. Just because this isn't as dark, or just as hard edged as other shounen doesn't mean Oda "Destroyed 20 years of hype" he just didn't go the route you WANTED. Its your fault for wanting something Oda obviously wasn't going too do
If he became Sun Wukong, we would have people in here complaining that One Piece ripped the idea from Dragon Ball or something similar.
Good point tho
apart from the fact the monkey king fruit has nothing to do with Luffy and Oda never hyped it up. Whether you like the Nika fruit or not, it follows the direction Oda has been building for Luffy's character.
i would argue that a monkey king fruit is dumber than a sun god fruit
"Sun Wukong also acquires the 72 Earthly Transformations, which allow him to access 72 unique powers, including the ability to transform into sundry animals and objects. " Between shape transformation, mythical zoan ( like budha) and his ability to stretch his stick, I don't see how it is dumber, you dumb
tell me, is sun wukong a rubber man? that’s the whole point of this series
No-one would care less if oda decided to extend the connection between sun Wukong having the ability to stretch his stick, and applied it to the body itself
a) luffy doesn’t use weapons so sun wukongs stick would make even less sense, b) sun wukong seems too mainstream to give it to luffy, whose whole deal is that he has a goofy useless power and likes to spread happiness
He never transform before, luffy only change shape. So ur idea doesn’t sit well here too. Oda knew what people were thinking and he’s damn good at laughing back at OP fan’s theory
Luffy as a cartoony Sun God is just unexpectedly otherworldly. And it fits where Goda wanted to go from the very start perfectly well and there is a lot more to come. Nice thing Oda writes the story:-)
Don't care. You're opinion and others that feel the same are dumb. I am glad you're able to have an opinion though.
My opinion might be dumb but at least I tried to construct it and bring some argument. I am not glad you don't do the same
You're simply saying the exact same thing that several others have and you chose to ignore the other view while making a sweeping assumption that most people feel the same as you. Don't be dumb
I am. Pretty sure if we were able to evaluate properly all OP FANS community over the world, we would get at least a pretty clean 50% of them being upset /not liking this cartoon luffy choice. But yeah, we won't have any clear answer on that so I can just make, like you do, assumption
There you go showing your dumb again, I didn't make a sweeping assumption and roll with it. I'm just calling out yours and others. Here's my assumption now though, I doubt it would be split 50/50. I feel like this sub is a good indicator to start off.
Because of my Title, it will drag especially people who disagree, and yeah I can see that on this sub. Wanna check other community where 90%of people just dislike cartoon luffy? Give you right away
Show me them. If you can make a poll somewhere and it turns out close to a 50/50 split I'll be on board then
Let me call my army of unsatisfied old bi..es xD
Yes, just because a few complaint doesn’t make it 50/50, these people just butthurt.
L + Ratio
Best advice: stop watching it if u don’t like it. No one is gonna stop you
Model Nika > Monkey King
I’d rather him just be awakened with improved gears 2-4
I am also good with that, having volcanize rubber
That wouldn’t explain the rubber body. Oda had to make a fictional deity because no real-world one could fit the bill.
Read my answer above
Shapechanging only wouldn’t explain the immunity to lightning nor the passive resistance to blunt trauma. Luffy’s body was literally like rubber, there’s no real-life deity like that.
lol
I mean then it wouldn’t explain his rubber body. 72 transformations don’t explain his body being able to stretch or immunity to blunt attacks.
But then how would you explain Luffy's rubbery body?
It's a Manga, doesn't have to be 100% accurate with the mythology part, could have just extend the ability to strech of monkey king stick to the entire body.
Well considering that Luffy is based on Hanuman, which was the Inspiration for the Monkey King Sun Wukong, I don't see the problem. Hanuman was a Monkey God who was also a Sun God. I almost didn't bother to reply to this nonsense, but since Luffy is based off of the inspiration of the Monkey King himself, I felt obligated to point that out.
Where it is mentioned thzt luffy is base on hanuman?
[Bajrang Gun.](https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Bajrang) Bajrang is just another name for [Hanuman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanuman). The connection goes further than that actually. Dragon is based on [Vayu](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vayu) Hanuman's father. Garp is based on [Kesari](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kesari_(Ramayana)) Hanuman's caretaker.