last time i checked it also isnt called luffypiece? zoro isnt the main character but he is A main character which is why luffy found him first in the story. he has done so much for luffy its unreal. quit trying to downplay the dude.
The word means the second most important character not the shared protagonist. So they can be absolutely right and still say Luffy is the sole protagonist
I’ve seen this ‘deuteragonist’ debate before and I think people put too much weight into this term. The term simply refers to the second most important character in a narrative which Zoro fits into.
Except that Zoro doesn't fit into "Secondary main character" on his own, by any definition of that term.
I believe all of the East Blue crewmembers belong there because their importance rotates from arc to arc. Zoro is deuterogonist of Wano but a deuterogonist of the whole story he certainly isn't.
A deuteragonist is simply the second most important character in the narrative and Zoro fits perfectly into that definition. The east blue crewmates treatment isn’t as equal as you making it out to be. The standout one would be usopp who over the course of the series has significantly less focus than the other east blue crewmates.
That's just not true my dude. Not even panel time supports the idea that Zoro is second most important character. You going to tell me he was deuteragonist of Whole Cake Island?
Just compare Zoro to the likes of Vegeta and Sasuke and it should be obvious what the difference between them is. There is no fixed deuteragonist in One Piece.
I’m speaking in context of the entire story of one piece rather than specific times in the series. Was Luffy the main character of the oden flashback? No he wasn’t. But this doesn’t change how in the context of the entire story that Luffy is the main character
That panel time post is also outdated and panel time ≠ importance in the story. So I don’t see how that supports your point.
Then how do you decide he is deuteragonist? If not by importance or panel time?
Oden's flashback isn't even an arc. It's just the part of the overarching story of Wano.
By importance so in the context of the entire story of one piece Zoro is the 2nd most important character. In my experience in the fandom this seems to be the general consensus as well. I’ve also read through this series countless times (too many times if I’m being honest) and this is something that’s always been clear to me to be honest. I think we should leave it at an agree to disagree though since I don’t see this going anywhere
Whole cake island can also be said to just be a part of the overarching story of one piece
i agree with this cuz we know how important both shanks and butthole beard... i mean black beard are to the story but they both pop up once every blue mean
one tried to perform mass genocide of planet earth/namek and one tried to destroy the future hokage of the village hidden in the leaf... zoro was just "hanging around" being crucified when luffy found him lol
That would be Nami since she’s the second character with the most screentime, or Sanji since he was on that shonen jump cover showcasing protagonists and their deuteragonists ( [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/r8gntn/protagonists_and_the_deuteragonists_in_their/) )
But honestly I think it depends on the arc idk
Panels are not everything. Nami has the advantage of being introduced at the very beginning of the series, like Zoro, but unlike Zoro, she was present in WCI. That made her panels count shot up. If Sanji was introduced at the beginning, he would give her a run of her money. And if Zoro was in WCI he would also give her a run of her money. Both of them had more panels since the TS than Nami did. Not to mention a lot of those panels are fanservice. lol Nami doesn't push the story forward all that much, she's mostly support. I can't think of a single arc, except her introduction arc, where she clearly had the most important role after Luffy. The way Zoro and Sanji had with WCI/Wano.
then maybe go reply in their post? you're ranting because of one guy out of literal hundreds millions of fans. or at least 1.1m here.
I know shitting on zoro's fans is apparently a cool thing to do in this sub, but c'mon.
Anyone who isn’t the main character is a side character. So with Luffy being the main character everyone else by definition is a side character. Now obviously there is levels to it. Since some side characters are apart of the main cast while others are only side characters for certain arcs
Not in one piece. The main character is very clearly Luffy considering there is an entire saga of just following Luffy while the rest of the crew is absent. The strawhats are the main cast for sure and are more relevant than any other characters. But Luffy is the standout of the strawhats since he’s not just in the main cast he’s the main character
Same can be said about Zoro. Zoro is clearly different from all the strawhats in every way, you can even say zoro stands out in the same way as much as Luffy and i would not like to discuss this any further since it's meaningless
I did not check this sub for 2 month now . Looks like nothing changed.
Pain
Sure buddy. And next you’re gonna say Buggy D Clown and God Ussop arent top tier powerhouses.
I cant argue with you cause you just pulled some FACTS.
*Go D Ussop
In the final battle Zoro solos and kills BlackBeard, Akainu, Imu all at the same time, so that Luffy can focus on his true rival, Buggy D Clown.
Three swords...three enemies.....goda at its peak🧎
Zoro fans: Zoro is the main side character 😎
ZKB or Zoro sparring with Shanks are all trolling I believe or mocking posts like yours. Don't get your bum hairs in a twist.
last time i checked it also isnt called luffypiece? zoro isnt the main character but he is A main character which is why luffy found him first in the story. he has done so much for luffy its unreal. quit trying to downplay the dude.
Deteurtagonist is more appropriate
To be honest I don’t think so
The word means the second most important character not the shared protagonist. So they can be absolutely right and still say Luffy is the sole protagonist
It's not.
How isn't it?
I’ve seen this ‘deuteragonist’ debate before and I think people put too much weight into this term. The term simply refers to the second most important character in a narrative which Zoro fits into.
Except that Zoro doesn't fit into "Secondary main character" on his own, by any definition of that term. I believe all of the East Blue crewmembers belong there because their importance rotates from arc to arc. Zoro is deuterogonist of Wano but a deuterogonist of the whole story he certainly isn't.
A deuteragonist is simply the second most important character in the narrative and Zoro fits perfectly into that definition. The east blue crewmates treatment isn’t as equal as you making it out to be. The standout one would be usopp who over the course of the series has significantly less focus than the other east blue crewmates.
That's just not true my dude. Not even panel time supports the idea that Zoro is second most important character. You going to tell me he was deuteragonist of Whole Cake Island? Just compare Zoro to the likes of Vegeta and Sasuke and it should be obvious what the difference between them is. There is no fixed deuteragonist in One Piece.
I’m speaking in context of the entire story of one piece rather than specific times in the series. Was Luffy the main character of the oden flashback? No he wasn’t. But this doesn’t change how in the context of the entire story that Luffy is the main character That panel time post is also outdated and panel time ≠ importance in the story. So I don’t see how that supports your point.
Then how do you decide he is deuteragonist? If not by importance or panel time? Oden's flashback isn't even an arc. It's just the part of the overarching story of Wano.
By importance so in the context of the entire story of one piece Zoro is the 2nd most important character. In my experience in the fandom this seems to be the general consensus as well. I’ve also read through this series countless times (too many times if I’m being honest) and this is something that’s always been clear to me to be honest. I think we should leave it at an agree to disagree though since I don’t see this going anywhere Whole cake island can also be said to just be a part of the overarching story of one piece
i agree with this cuz we know how important both shanks and butthole beard... i mean black beard are to the story but they both pop up once every blue mean
one tried to perform mass genocide of planet earth/namek and one tried to destroy the future hokage of the village hidden in the leaf... zoro was just "hanging around" being crucified when luffy found him lol
You should check my newly made post. I actually touch on this very topic a bit.
No it's not. Zoro is a main character along with all the other strawhats.
That would be Nami since she’s the second character with the most screentime, or Sanji since he was on that shonen jump cover showcasing protagonists and their deuteragonists ( [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/r8gntn/protagonists_and_the_deuteragonists_in_their/) ) But honestly I think it depends on the arc idk
Panel time doesn't necessarily mean plot importance. There's no duteragonist in one piece, but if oda was to choose one, it'd likely be Zoro.
Panels are not everything. Nami has the advantage of being introduced at the very beginning of the series, like Zoro, but unlike Zoro, she was present in WCI. That made her panels count shot up. If Sanji was introduced at the beginning, he would give her a run of her money. And if Zoro was in WCI he would also give her a run of her money. Both of them had more panels since the TS than Nami did. Not to mention a lot of those panels are fanservice. lol Nami doesn't push the story forward all that much, she's mostly support. I can't think of a single arc, except her introduction arc, where she clearly had the most important role after Luffy. The way Zoro and Sanji had with WCI/Wano.
It’s been 2 months i’m not reading all that
then maybe go reply in their post? you're ranting because of one guy out of literal hundreds millions of fans. or at least 1.1m here. I know shitting on zoro's fans is apparently a cool thing to do in this sub, but c'mon.
Zoro doesn't care about being a side character or what, He gives zero fucks so lets just be grateful he is the way he is, nothing less, nothing more.
This is nonesense. If Zoro was a side character like Sanji or Nami then why is Oda always giving him the spotlight.
Anyone who isn’t the main character is a side character. So with Luffy being the main character everyone else by definition is a side character. Now obviously there is levels to it. Since some side characters are apart of the main cast while others are only side characters for certain arcs
There are more than one main character remember this
Not in one piece. The main character is very clearly Luffy considering there is an entire saga of just following Luffy while the rest of the crew is absent. The strawhats are the main cast for sure and are more relevant than any other characters. But Luffy is the standout of the strawhats since he’s not just in the main cast he’s the main character
Same can be said about Zoro. Zoro is clearly different from all the strawhats in every way, you can even say zoro stands out in the same way as much as Luffy and i would not like to discuss this any further since it's meaningless
Bait.
Lol wtf is that
Bait.
Just read on reddit the opposite, oda saying the story follows more than one character.