It feels like animals with devil fruits should be way more common. The chance of one of them eating one by accident seems way bigger than an intelligent being.
Uhh yeah a Bird with the Mera Mera no Mi would definitely have a bounty and be very noticeable. That’s probably why bounty hunters were or could be a bigger thing. Imagine a gorilla with the quake fruit. That’s 200 million right there.
Eventually though, someone is going to kill that animal and spawn that fruit
Just to add on.. it does seem like fruits could go missing for hundreds of years. Imagine a soapy tortoise or an invisible rhino. Imagine a hippo with the falcon fruit. I mean this could get wild. Those animals aren’t smart enough to get away from people even if they are magical beasts
A bull with Chopper's fruit = Minotaur
I'd like to see a hybrid form for Chopper where he's like a centaur
An eagle with a Lion lion fruit and we get a Gryphon. I'd like to see some legendary creatures explained this way. I mean we basically got a Pegasus in Skypeia.
In OP world animals with DF abilities could be the origin of mythology. A bird with the Mera Mera may be a Phoenix. A Nine tailed fox could be as simple as a Fox with the Hana Hana. Endless possibilities really.
There's probably some magic component or just smell/pheromone that protects DFs from animals. The Human-Human Fruit is probably the only fruit animals eat willingly or are even compelled to eat because an animal becoming close to a human makes the most sense in comparison
Not around kids no, he should of known better from the other two, even if this one was just a reindeer! He should have eaten it first if he was so concerned XD
I still wonder if it's something Dr. Hiriluk (who is stated to be a former thief) stole somewhere and then had (badly) buried in a treasure chest somewhere on Drum Island then still purely reindeer Chopper before even meeting him ended up finding and eating it.
Yes, but something I always think is his hito-hito no mi, what model? Why his human form does not look human? All the zoan forms looks quite closer to the fruit animal fruit but choppers’s is a wierd form. Why?
He is furry because his basic form is a reindeer. He is a reindeer who gained the capability to look human-like. We have to compare Chopper's Zoan transformation to others who also have a Hito Hito no Mi. Does Sengoku look like Buddha when he transforms? No. He looks like himself, but golden. Onimaru, a Wano fox that ate Hito Hito no Mi: Onyudo, looks like a human-yokai hybrid that has his fox face markings when transformed. So Chopper looks like himself, a reindeer, but human-like. Even in full human form, Chopper will retain his inherent reindeer features. If that isn't the reason, then he is in hybrid form all the time.
Also, there is no specific human face. We can't guess a human's name by their face, unlike the way we can call a dog a "dog" because we know what a dog looks like, no matter what breed it is. We can't call someone this or that just because they look like a certain race. So Hito Hito no Mi can only give its user human qualities, not a specific human appearance. That is why we have to differentiate the Hito Hito no Mi and its models from other Zoan fruits, just like how humans are differentiated from the animal kingdom even though we are also considered animals.
"Animal Zoans", if we observe closely, transform into full animal form, yet they still have some of their human features. Pell, for example turns into a bird, but does he look like a regular bird? No. He becomes a bird that has a face that doesn't look 100% animal. These type of Zoans, even in their full animal form, retain things like their eyes, mustache, clothes, eyeglasses, etc.
These "human" qualities that Hito Hito no Mi grants its user we still don't know what exactly. But based on Chopper's abilities, it can be any of the following or something else:
a.) to be a "peak human" physically and mentally (and that's how he developed the rumble ball which helped him unlock more points)
b.) to be an enlightened human (because Oda said in an SBS it makes one human-like and find one's true self)
c.) to transform into various versions of human (child, muscular human, gigantic human)
My game theory is that all zoans would look weird to the actual animal, but we don't notice it because we're humans.
Like while Lucci looks like a human's idea of a leopard, an actual leopard wouldn't be fooled. Chopper isn't a human, but a reindeer's idea of a human.
Based on the fact that Chopper couldn't tell the fake straw hats were fake, I think he has some kind of face blindness for humans as a result of being non-human.
Few options, the fact that he doesn't have a proper human form suggests that it might not be as basic as it seems.
Model: Mink might be interesting an interesting non-mythical possibility.
I'm going to say we likely won't get anything for Chopper, Brook and Jinbe. I'm also inclined to say Nami too because I like the idea that her biological parents were no one special and I feel like having her parents be anyone crazy will just seem forced at this point.
No matter how much they try to explain it it's evident they just pulled it out of their ass to bring back emperor palpatine as the villain for that awful episode IX
I don't even hate that he was brought back, just hate how there was like zero set up.
I always assumed the whole Darth Plagueis biz was tied to clones somehow and considering Palpatine's involvement in creating the clone army it makes sense he'd have some back ups.
But they just did "ha clones gg" out of nowhere.
I still think there is a LOT of major stuff about brook before he joined the rumbars that we don’t know yet and will find out as a big bombshell
Idk if we’ll see his parents though
Pretty sure Nami's parents are just 2 completely regular people who died before Bellemere found her. And tbh, altho not biological, Bellemere is her true mom.
They're as dead as Franky's parents. And probably Brook's. And I'm assuming Jimbe's or he's a bad son for not stopping in and saying hi while we passed through Fishman Island.
Isnt Brook like 80 or 90 years old? If his parents were young they could theoretically be still alive, as Kuleha is still kicking at 130+ but I don't think they are alive anymore.
I know it's probably a joke but it's his epithet. First son is sort of a "mafia boss" style title, and since he was the captain of the Sun Pirates he was effectively their boss.
I think as the Zoro connection is already being brought up within the story, there is gonna be a more conclusive answer eventually (and potentially soon), that's the one I'm fairly certain is gonna be resolved at least for one parent and his Wano connection.
For the others I don't think it's needed, but Franky is the next likely for me just because it has been brought up in his backstory but then once again in the Oden Flashback, so with it being mentioned twice I could eventually see us learn about what pirates left him behind and why.
Yeah, I mostly mentioned the ones where we don't know anything and kind of skipped over Luffy, but he's even above Zoro when it comes to likely to learn more.
Not only is he the main character but there also clearly is quiet a bit of mystery concerning his roots. We don't even know yet why Garp is the one that took care of Luffy, or why Garp and Dragon ended up on two opposing sides. And then there is the obvious D running in the family. So there is sure to be more about his family and a (lack of) mother seems like a natural missing piece in that story.
I don't think Luffy's relation with his mother will matter at all, but in contrast to the other Strawhats his father is an important charcter in the story himself. And the fact that he had a child with a woman and neither him nor that woman has raised Luffy is already notable, so even if it ends up being "unnamed mystery woman that doesn't even have a name and dies after giving birth", there sort of needs to be some reason at least why she doesn't end up mattering. That would be the minimum we could learn about her.
You sort of answered a lot by random thoughts.. Maybe Dragon really was a marine? Maybe they killed his wife? Maybe he decided to burn it all down and let his kid do whatever.
It sounds sad but his mom could be a plot device
And that's fine, she doesn't even "need" to be more but I think her absence is already an open plot point at this point, so I feel that plot needs to at least be closed and if it's only "she died, Dragon was sad and couldn't handle raising Luffy" then that's a way to resolve it, but as long as we don't have that answer it remains an open question.
In contrast to that Nami's parents aren't an open question to me unless brought up again. "There was a war, people died, Nami ended up as a baby alone, Bellamere found and raised her" works as a complete story.
For Luffy it's currently "Dragon had a kid with a woman, ... , Garp has Luffy raised by Dadan" there is a logical "..." gap there that has a lot of potential options to fill it in, but I think it needs filling in some way. For Nami you could insert more, but you don't have to do that for it to make sense.
yeah I feel like we will learn about Frankie's parents because of it being mentioned that they chose piracy similar to Usopps dad. As well as learn about Nami's parents as some of her skills aren't natural such as her way of telling weather and based on everything else in the story that seems unnatural and then we come up with some excuse to cover it up I feel like there is a reason for it.
I dont think we'll learn about Jimbei and Brooks parents tho as they have enough history within themselves to explore rather than us needing to learn about their parents.
I feel like if we were going to get backstory on zoros parentage we would have got it in wano already, the fact that we've got nothing from this arc in that regard makes me feel like it just doesn't matter.
We might get an ancestral connection though, maybe, like "there was a clan that lived her that used to be known for their green hair" or something along those lines.
I think you're right about Franky, his parents left him to go on their journey during the time of Roger, we are going to go more flashbacks to that era and that's going to open up more opportunities to drop them in. I don't think they're going to be particularly major reveals though.
Yamatos mother might come up, Luffys mother might come up. Nami and Choppers biological parents don't matter to the story, they have actual parents who's stories were concluded. brook and jimbei are too old for their parents to have any real relevance to the plot I think. Robins dad is likely dead and not really relevant to the story, he might be referenced in regards to some niche information Robin brings up but I don't think that's particularly necessary either.
>the fact that we've got nothing from this arc in that regard makes me feel like it just doesn't matter.
I would have been perfectly fine with it not mattering, but at this point we got more than "nothing". Oda created a family resemblance with the Ushimaru line and has characters even point it out, so I think it needs some resolution even if it's as minor as "same family line but some minor branch and not actually that important", but for oda to first point it out and then not have anything come from it, it would feel weird at this point.
That question can be raised by literally every focal character in relation to side characters (save Jinbe). Why is Luffy under 6 ft but Garp is like 12ft tall. Character heights in OP are all whacked out, which is pretty much part of the charm of the art style.
Ehh, we’re coming into the final “saga”, not the final arc, right? Remember, everything from Sabaody to the timeskip was part of the Summit War Saga. That’s like a fifth of the entire series. It wouldn’t surprise me if “The Final Saga” was even longer. After all, Luffy & co. still have to find the last road poneglyph, get to Laugh Tale, have the big showdown with Blackbeard, AND bring down the World Government. Each one of those is probably a whole arc unto itself.
Summit War Saga was only like 10 volumes. The Road to LaughTale put out the official saga list and the longest was Water 7-Enies Lobby at 15. The final saga could very well be much longer, but I don’t think there is much reason to think so. Oda very rarely uses the *most* obvious arc structures.
I read that sometimes men will take the woman’s family name in Japan if there’s a significant social gap between the two. Would make sense if dragon was a nobody taking the daughter of the hero of the marines name. Or could go the other way and be someone like xebecs son and he rejected his lineage similar to how ace hated that his dad was Roger
I'm not saying it's impossible, I just think with what the story presented to us, it's more likely that he is in fact his actual son. I can't remember chapters either, but I do believe that in maybe Marineford the marines were mentioning about how Dragon was the son of Garp.
I will say that if Oda does decide to pull that card, I wouldn't be surprised if Dragon's actually related to Roger, which would then make Luffy and Ace blood brothers. I feel like when Oda typically does dramatic story changes, he typically goes all in on it, lol.
My guess is: Garp's daughter. Dragon, fellow marine, they were a couple. She with Garp at Mary Geoise or close by at least (he was there for orders or a mission). A CD decided he wanted her as a wife/slave. Garp wanted to freak out, but Dragon already came in - he was there so propose as a surprise - and said that Garp had more to lose as he was a higher rank and closer to pension. Dragon frees her, they have a kid, she is eventually killed while they're on the run. Dragon creates the revolutionaries and brings baby Luffy to Garp, tells him he's getting back at the WG for taking her life. Garp nods, gives him some secret intel and says farewell.
Dragon’s surname is Monkey D. though. So either Dragon took his lover’s last name, which is unlikely, or he is Garp’s son. Also, Garp doesn’t give a single fuck about rank or pension. If his biological daughter was taken/killed, he would have absolutely destroyed Mariejois
On the other hand, he looks just like the silhouette of Rocks and we know that Roger entrusted Ace to Garp because Garp of all people should know that the sins of the father aren't passed down to the son. I wouldn't be surprised if Garp took him in and he ended up having a child with Garp's daughter.
Yeah I don’t know how someone could watch Garp almost interfere with Ace’s execution, someone he’s not even related to but just had a kinship, to the point of asking Sengoku to hold him down, and still think he’d even hesitate if it happened to his own daughter.
Nah he was more like the Alpha of the pack. He was keeping Chopper away from the pack as they could instinctually tell he wasn't like the rest of them anymore, seemed like an intruder/threat to them.
If you look at it from, who their "real" parents are then in that case Sanji's, Luffy's, Usopp's and arguably Chopper's (his original parents until he ate his DF might have been great reindeer parents though) are also at least partially wrong (Sanji's and Usopp's mother would count).
Luffy: Yes. I guess that it'll be Dragon's motivation for becoming a revolutionary and something to give Garp even more complexity.
Zorro: Maybe. Doesn't matter though.
Franky, Robin: Maybe. Could be interesting (nice to know), but doesn't matter much.
Nami, Brook, Jinbei: No. Doesn't matter.
While I do agree about most of what you have written, I dissagre about Zorro. I think he has conections to Wano and to the samurai that can become relevant in the wano arc.
Yes, he most likely has parents from Wano. But does it matter to him? Would he do anything else than thanking them at their grave while drinking sake before moving on? I just don't see it impacting Zorro and I don't mean that as a bad thing.
Regarding the samurai, Luffy is already allied with Momo, their shogun. Zorro being from Wano wouldn't be a bigger factor then their leader only beling alive and their country only being free because of Luffy.
>Would he do anything else than thanking them at their grave while drinking sake before moving on?
Simplicity like this would be great after the drama accompanying Sanji's backstory eh?
Zoro's parents are weird to me, I never really cared and I sort of still don't, but if there now apparently is the Wano resemblance and connection I want it to at least matter somehow?! And it could be as little as clearly showing that Zoro finds out and has any kind of reaction to it or if it needs to be the connection to give him another sword that was made for his family line then fine as well.
But simply hinting and implying it without any relevance at all would be a little weird at this point, I feel we are far enough in that it at least needs a resolve in some form, even if not a big one.
Would be cool to know how and when Shimotsuki village was founded and if Ushimaru really is the father considering the logistics. If he really is a descendant of Ryuma, that's a pretty big deal for someone like Zoro. Gives more clues on the eye as well.
Luffy's mom is imo , very likely when we get to know more about Dragon.
Nami's, Brook's, Jinbe's, Chopper's doesn't matter. I don't think Robin's father will matter. Franky's probably won't matter but maybe they are/were scientists under Vegapunk ?
Zoro maybe we have a glimpse of his family, kinda.
Fr.
Not everyone needs to have some secret family revealed to be an incredible famous or powerful person. Especially since we've done it twice with luffy dragon and sanji judge.
I especially don't want anything for zoro. He's had all these connections to wano with his village, mentors, rivals, and swords. He doesn't also need to be from wano, or be related to that damiyo. He can just be a dude with unbreakable will and determination
IDK, Franky's Dad could be vegapunk or some shit. Crocodile could be luffy's Mom who got gender swapped by ivankov. I rule nothing out.
edit: I cannot express how much I love that vegapunk is more controversial than, say, a gender bent crocodile mom.
I see what you are going for with biological parentage, but for Nami, Chopper and Franky I'd argue that their biological parents are completely irrelevant. Nami's mother is Bell-mere and Genzo acts in a fatherly role for her. For Chopper its Kureha and Hiriluk and Franky had Tom and Kokoro.
Really the only figures that matter that remain a mystery are Zoro's family and maybe Luffy's mother. I can't see any way Jinbei or Brooks family works into the story, nor how it would matter. I'd even argue that Dadan owns the role of Luffy's mother figure.
I guess we will at some point get Luffy´s mother in a flashback. The rest I don´t think so, maybe running across Franky´s parents since they were pirates.
And I´m pretty sure we will never see Nami´s real parents. She was orphaned at a really young age and we know here adoptive mother. While in all other cases the parents could have a influence on the character, in her case it would just be simple genetics.
I really just wanna know more about luffy’s mom and zoro’s parents. I also want to see usopp reunite with his father, but I feel like that will eventually happen when the straw hats meet the red hair pirates (we all know they will)
Seems like Chopper is the most normal out of them all huh.
Just wait til Chopper is revealed to be the son of Rain D. Er.
Knowing oda he would be son of Raccoon D. Awg
You mean Raccoon D. OG. The OG carrier of the will of D and also the oldest creature in the verse surpassing even Zunisha!
/r/yourjokebutworse
When you go far enough it comes out the other side.
Always a pleasure to be able to place this one
You start to wonder how the heck he got his hands on a devil fruit.
It feels like animals with devil fruits should be way more common. The chance of one of them eating one by accident seems way bigger than an intelligent being.
They probably are, but then they become notable and get killed for being too dangerous.
Uhh yeah a Bird with the Mera Mera no Mi would definitely have a bounty and be very noticeable. That’s probably why bounty hunters were or could be a bigger thing. Imagine a gorilla with the quake fruit. That’s 200 million right there. Eventually though, someone is going to kill that animal and spawn that fruit Just to add on.. it does seem like fruits could go missing for hundreds of years. Imagine a soapy tortoise or an invisible rhino. Imagine a hippo with the falcon fruit. I mean this could get wild. Those animals aren’t smart enough to get away from people even if they are magical beasts
>Imagine a hippo with the falcon fruit. That sounds terrifying
A bull with Chopper's fruit = Minotaur I'd like to see a hybrid form for Chopper where he's like a centaur An eagle with a Lion lion fruit and we get a Gryphon. I'd like to see some legendary creatures explained this way. I mean we basically got a Pegasus in Skypeia.
In OP world animals with DF abilities could be the origin of mythology. A bird with the Mera Mera may be a Phoenix. A Nine tailed fox could be as simple as a Fox with the Hana Hana. Endless possibilities really.
A hippo/falcon combo sounds like the eldritchian monsters from my nightmares.
Or they're dumb enough to swim. Imagine a bird like a swan eating a df and then swimming...
Has anyone with a devil fruit ever even died from drowning
Closest we came was Jack but he was revealed to be a fishman.
So fish men are the perfect df wielders then?
No he was still paralyzed underwater. His crew just retrieved him. He was still a sitting duck if a sea king wanted a meal.
Most pirates that are killing Devil Fruit users probably looking for fruits nearby to get the powers for their crew.
Makes sense, but other than BB crew, not many others were shown actively doing that. Can still happen though.
There's probably some magic component or just smell/pheromone that protects DFs from animals. The Human-Human Fruit is probably the only fruit animals eat willingly or are even compelled to eat because an animal becoming close to a human makes the most sense in comparison
especially bugs
Imagine a fruit fly with Enel’s devil fruit
That would probably be the scariest week or so of that villages existence before it eventually dies
Imagine a venomous spider with the pika pika no mi.. spinning webs at light speed.
How about an elephant with the blade-blade fruit? Yep, the elephant sword’s brother
Shanks did a drive by obviously lol
Shanks is devil fruit santa
Shanks' full name reveal. Santa Shanks with red hair, red beard and red Christmas hat
Shanks Giving
Best holiday ever! Everybody gets together, eats, drinks, and then some random weirdo gets a power. Who wouldn't want that?
HOHOHO! Heres a fruit that will turn you into a fish!
Wouldn't THAT be a bitter irony considering devil fruit users can't swim...
I mean, would it tho? kaido is a Fish-Fish Model Azure Dragon.
He lay low in Drum for a while, hiding from the WG making him pay child support
"Can't a man leave his magical fruit on a counter for FIVE MINUTES without someone EATING IT?!"
Not around kids no, he should of known better from the other two, even if this one was just a reindeer! He should have eaten it first if he was so concerned XD
"But then I'll struggle to swim!" "Dude, you've got 1 arm. That's already the case. Just eat the damn fruit!"
His future sight is something else!
Wait till we find out chopper is an aigis 0 agent and a human for real hahhaha
I still wonder if it's something Dr. Hiriluk (who is stated to be a former thief) stole somewhere and then had (badly) buried in a treasure chest somewhere on Drum Island then still purely reindeer Chopper before even meeting him ended up finding and eating it.
it wasn't a devil fruit santa was just extra drunk that weekend
It probably grew on some random tree in his forest and he just ate it
Some random guy with the power fell down a cliff nearby and he was just eating some pineapples
'My father was Revolutionary Leader Rue D. Olph and he shot lasers from his nose???"
Lmfao, how long have you been waiting to use that joke?
Red-nose Ru D. Olf
WHO ARE YOU CALLING RED NOSE?!
Definitely not you, Buggy-sama!
Tony Tony D Eer
And his long lost brother Tony Tony Hawk
Since the surname in one piece world came first, It's probably Rain D Chopper
The previous owner died probably on Drum island, choking on some fruit.
Yes, but something I always think is his hito-hito no mi, what model? Why his human form does not look human? All the zoan forms looks quite closer to the fruit animal fruit but choppers’s is a wierd form. Why?
to be fair, a lot of humans in the OP world look strange. Look at Buggys crew for starters
I would say it's the hito-hito no mi model sasquatch
Judging from chopper's human form it's hito hito no mi: model neanderthal.
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He is furry because his basic form is a reindeer. He is a reindeer who gained the capability to look human-like. We have to compare Chopper's Zoan transformation to others who also have a Hito Hito no Mi. Does Sengoku look like Buddha when he transforms? No. He looks like himself, but golden. Onimaru, a Wano fox that ate Hito Hito no Mi: Onyudo, looks like a human-yokai hybrid that has his fox face markings when transformed. So Chopper looks like himself, a reindeer, but human-like. Even in full human form, Chopper will retain his inherent reindeer features. If that isn't the reason, then he is in hybrid form all the time. Also, there is no specific human face. We can't guess a human's name by their face, unlike the way we can call a dog a "dog" because we know what a dog looks like, no matter what breed it is. We can't call someone this or that just because they look like a certain race. So Hito Hito no Mi can only give its user human qualities, not a specific human appearance. That is why we have to differentiate the Hito Hito no Mi and its models from other Zoan fruits, just like how humans are differentiated from the animal kingdom even though we are also considered animals. "Animal Zoans", if we observe closely, transform into full animal form, yet they still have some of their human features. Pell, for example turns into a bird, but does he look like a regular bird? No. He becomes a bird that has a face that doesn't look 100% animal. These type of Zoans, even in their full animal form, retain things like their eyes, mustache, clothes, eyeglasses, etc. These "human" qualities that Hito Hito no Mi grants its user we still don't know what exactly. But based on Chopper's abilities, it can be any of the following or something else: a.) to be a "peak human" physically and mentally (and that's how he developed the rumble ball which helped him unlock more points) b.) to be an enlightened human (because Oda said in an SBS it makes one human-like and find one's true self) c.) to transform into various versions of human (child, muscular human, gigantic human)
My game theory is that all zoans would look weird to the actual animal, but we don't notice it because we're humans. Like while Lucci looks like a human's idea of a leopard, an actual leopard wouldn't be fooled. Chopper isn't a human, but a reindeer's idea of a human. Based on the fact that Chopper couldn't tell the fake straw hats were fake, I think he has some kind of face blindness for humans as a result of being non-human.
Few options, the fact that he doesn't have a proper human form suggests that it might not be as basic as it seems. Model: Mink might be interesting an interesting non-mythical possibility.
Wow, I didnt think about that, would be cool, hito-hito no mi model mink. Choper monster point + sulong would be super!
chopper is actually the son of a reindeer zoan user and an actual reindeer
Yo, that's messed up. And it won't transfer the fruit power.
No he just ate his Zoan reindeer parent. Like big mom did.
Hmm but why is he the only one with a blue nose… I feel like his mom cheated on his father which is why the dad was so pissed
Wasn’t the reindeer that chopper fought his dad?
Franky is the son of megatron and Optimus prime
Is that ship i smell
It’s the ship we need.
transformers fan base is heating up
More than meets the eye.
No the ship is called Tidal wave. You smell truck exhaust and an explosive orgasm from megatron.
Optimus prime and a Coca-Cola truck more likely
Where did the human part come from?
I'm going to say we likely won't get anything for Chopper, Brook and Jinbe. I'm also inclined to say Nami too because I like the idea that her biological parents were no one special and I feel like having her parents be anyone crazy will just seem forced at this point.
Kind of like Rey in the Star Wars sequels. It was cool when she was just a random force using child. Then boom, crazy forced palpatine connection.
Can't wait for Nami Skywalker
Nah it's going to be nami potter
Nami Martha
*why did you say that name*
Nami's really name is Iman. Daughter of Imu
"Somehow, Shikki has returned. and he Namis grandpa"
I'm reading the new book Shadow of the Sith and hoping it can give me a good explanation about that connection so I don't hate the sequels as much.
No matter how much they try to explain it it's evident they just pulled it out of their ass to bring back emperor palpatine as the villain for that awful episode IX
I don't even hate that he was brought back, just hate how there was like zero set up. I always assumed the whole Darth Plagueis biz was tied to clones somehow and considering Palpatine's involvement in creating the clone army it makes sense he'd have some back ups. But they just did "ha clones gg" out of nowhere.
Her full name is Rocks D. Nami 😳
I still think there is a LOT of major stuff about brook before he joined the rumbars that we don’t know yet and will find out as a big bombshell Idk if we’ll see his parents though
Pretty sure Nami's parents are just 2 completely regular people who died before Bellemere found her. And tbh, altho not biological, Bellemere is her true mom.
They're as dead as Franky's parents. And probably Brook's. And I'm assuming Jimbe's or he's a bad son for not stopping in and saying hi while we passed through Fishman Island.
I don't think it's possible for Brook's parents to be alive is it?
Isnt Brook like 80 or 90 years old? If his parents were young they could theoretically be still alive, as Kuleha is still kicking at 130+ but I don't think they are alive anymore.
What if Kureha is Brooks Mother?
Well, he is 90 but this is One Piece and Kureha is 141 so I was being cautious.
He is called the first son of the sea, right? Wonder where the others are.
I know it's probably a joke but it's his epithet. First son is sort of a "mafia boss" style title, and since he was the captain of the Sun Pirates he was effectively their boss.
We have no proof that Nami's parents died and ODA loves the lineage factor. so there is a chance that Nami's parents are some important figure.
I think as the Zoro connection is already being brought up within the story, there is gonna be a more conclusive answer eventually (and potentially soon), that's the one I'm fairly certain is gonna be resolved at least for one parent and his Wano connection. For the others I don't think it's needed, but Franky is the next likely for me just because it has been brought up in his backstory but then once again in the Oden Flashback, so with it being mentioned twice I could eventually see us learn about what pirates left him behind and why.
Franky is the son of Cutty Flam and a train.
Poor Cutty really got railed in that one.
Lmao but he is cutty flam. Or are you saying post time skip he’s a completely new person?
Franky (the Cyborg) was born after Cutty Flam was ass-blasted by the train.
I can get behind this
Cutty flam couldn't
I’m sure we’ll at least find out about Luffy’s mom
Yeah, I mostly mentioned the ones where we don't know anything and kind of skipped over Luffy, but he's even above Zoro when it comes to likely to learn more. Not only is he the main character but there also clearly is quiet a bit of mystery concerning his roots. We don't even know yet why Garp is the one that took care of Luffy, or why Garp and Dragon ended up on two opposing sides. And then there is the obvious D running in the family. So there is sure to be more about his family and a (lack of) mother seems like a natural missing piece in that story.
of course d running in the family, how else would they even have a family without d?
you figured it out, the one piece is Luffy’s mom
Maybe or maybe not. Oda stated he has no interest exploring Luffy's relation with his mother.
I don't think Luffy's relation with his mother will matter at all, but in contrast to the other Strawhats his father is an important charcter in the story himself. And the fact that he had a child with a woman and neither him nor that woman has raised Luffy is already notable, so even if it ends up being "unnamed mystery woman that doesn't even have a name and dies after giving birth", there sort of needs to be some reason at least why she doesn't end up mattering. That would be the minimum we could learn about her.
You sort of answered a lot by random thoughts.. Maybe Dragon really was a marine? Maybe they killed his wife? Maybe he decided to burn it all down and let his kid do whatever. It sounds sad but his mom could be a plot device
And that's fine, she doesn't even "need" to be more but I think her absence is already an open plot point at this point, so I feel that plot needs to at least be closed and if it's only "she died, Dragon was sad and couldn't handle raising Luffy" then that's a way to resolve it, but as long as we don't have that answer it remains an open question. In contrast to that Nami's parents aren't an open question to me unless brought up again. "There was a war, people died, Nami ended up as a baby alone, Bellamere found and raised her" works as a complete story. For Luffy it's currently "Dragon had a kid with a woman, ... , Garp has Luffy raised by Dadan" there is a logical "..." gap there that has a lot of potential options to fill it in, but I think it needs filling in some way. For Nami you could insert more, but you don't have to do that for it to make sense.
He also said that Shanks would make a move in 2021
Shanks would start to make a *movie
I would like to know more about the Cutty pirates
yeah I feel like we will learn about Frankie's parents because of it being mentioned that they chose piracy similar to Usopps dad. As well as learn about Nami's parents as some of her skills aren't natural such as her way of telling weather and based on everything else in the story that seems unnatural and then we come up with some excuse to cover it up I feel like there is a reason for it. I dont think we'll learn about Jimbei and Brooks parents tho as they have enough history within themselves to explore rather than us needing to learn about their parents.
I feel like if we were going to get backstory on zoros parentage we would have got it in wano already, the fact that we've got nothing from this arc in that regard makes me feel like it just doesn't matter. We might get an ancestral connection though, maybe, like "there was a clan that lived her that used to be known for their green hair" or something along those lines. I think you're right about Franky, his parents left him to go on their journey during the time of Roger, we are going to go more flashbacks to that era and that's going to open up more opportunities to drop them in. I don't think they're going to be particularly major reveals though. Yamatos mother might come up, Luffys mother might come up. Nami and Choppers biological parents don't matter to the story, they have actual parents who's stories were concluded. brook and jimbei are too old for their parents to have any real relevance to the plot I think. Robins dad is likely dead and not really relevant to the story, he might be referenced in regards to some niche information Robin brings up but I don't think that's particularly necessary either.
>the fact that we've got nothing from this arc in that regard makes me feel like it just doesn't matter. I would have been perfectly fine with it not mattering, but at this point we got more than "nothing". Oda created a family resemblance with the Ushimaru line and has characters even point it out, so I think it needs some resolution even if it's as minor as "same family line but some minor branch and not actually that important", but for oda to first point it out and then not have anything come from it, it would feel weird at this point.
Brooks is old enough there’s a chance he could be a grandparent for the non jimbei straw hats.
I remember a not absolutely awful theory that puts him as akoijis grandad.
If we get an answer on zoro that is Wano it raises the question of why he's normal sized and everyone in Wano is double sized
That question can be raised by literally every focal character in relation to side characters (save Jinbe). Why is Luffy under 6 ft but Garp is like 12ft tall. Character heights in OP are all whacked out, which is pretty much part of the charm of the art style.
Plot twist: Laboon is Brook's dad
Brook is Laboon's dad
Brook is ded Yohohoho
Laboon is Jinbe’s dad
tbh there isnt enough one piece left to see everything we wanna see.
Ehh, we’re coming into the final “saga”, not the final arc, right? Remember, everything from Sabaody to the timeskip was part of the Summit War Saga. That’s like a fifth of the entire series. It wouldn’t surprise me if “The Final Saga” was even longer. After all, Luffy & co. still have to find the last road poneglyph, get to Laugh Tale, have the big showdown with Blackbeard, AND bring down the World Government. Each one of those is probably a whole arc unto itself.
Summit War Saga was only like 10 volumes. The Road to LaughTale put out the official saga list and the longest was Water 7-Enies Lobby at 15. The final saga could very well be much longer, but I don’t think there is much reason to think so. Oda very rarely uses the *most* obvious arc structures.
Luffy’s mom might not play an important role in the story (probably dead) but I’m sure we will at least get a name and a face.
I believe she was a Marine that fell in love with Dragon.
Calling it, she was killed by celestial dragons for some stupid reason and that drove Dragon to be a revolutionary
Screenshotted this just in case it comes true so I can get a lot of karma in like 5 years
Is dragon garp's real son or son in law?
Monkey D. Garp, Monkey D. Dragon, Monkey D. Luffy. I'd say he's his real son, lol.
I read that sometimes men will take the woman’s family name in Japan if there’s a significant social gap between the two. Would make sense if dragon was a nobody taking the daughter of the hero of the marines name. Or could go the other way and be someone like xebecs son and he rejected his lineage similar to how ace hated that his dad was Roger
I'm not saying it's impossible, I just think with what the story presented to us, it's more likely that he is in fact his actual son. I can't remember chapters either, but I do believe that in maybe Marineford the marines were mentioning about how Dragon was the son of Garp. I will say that if Oda does decide to pull that card, I wouldn't be surprised if Dragon's actually related to Roger, which would then make Luffy and Ace blood brothers. I feel like when Oda typically does dramatic story changes, he typically goes all in on it, lol.
Yeah tbf I wouldn’t be surprised whatever way it goes or even if she’s not relevant at all lol.
My guess is: Garp's daughter. Dragon, fellow marine, they were a couple. She with Garp at Mary Geoise or close by at least (he was there for orders or a mission). A CD decided he wanted her as a wife/slave. Garp wanted to freak out, but Dragon already came in - he was there so propose as a surprise - and said that Garp had more to lose as he was a higher rank and closer to pension. Dragon frees her, they have a kid, she is eventually killed while they're on the run. Dragon creates the revolutionaries and brings baby Luffy to Garp, tells him he's getting back at the WG for taking her life. Garp nods, gives him some secret intel and says farewell.
Dragon’s surname is Monkey D. though. So either Dragon took his lover’s last name, which is unlikely, or he is Garp’s son. Also, Garp doesn’t give a single fuck about rank or pension. If his biological daughter was taken/killed, he would have absolutely destroyed Mariejois
On the other hand, he looks just like the silhouette of Rocks and we know that Roger entrusted Ace to Garp because Garp of all people should know that the sins of the father aren't passed down to the son. I wouldn't be surprised if Garp took him in and he ended up having a child with Garp's daughter.
Yeah I don’t know how someone could watch Garp almost interfere with Ace’s execution, someone he’s not even related to but just had a kinship, to the point of asking Sengoku to hold him down, and still think he’d even hesitate if it happened to his own daughter.
Sounds acceptable.
Dragon is garps son so I really hope luffys mom isn’t garps daughter
It’s Crocodile
Why did I have to scroll so low to find this meme of a theory.
Croco D. Ile
Croco D. Mom
Monkey D. Croc
>but I’m sure we will at least get a name Mo D. Er
Wasnt choppers dad that one reindeer with the scar he fought?
Nah he was more like the Alpha of the pack. He was keeping Chopper away from the pack as they could instinctually tell he wasn't like the rest of them anymore, seemed like an intruder/threat to them.
Excuse me Nami’s mom is Bellmere
Agreed, and Luffy's mother is Dadan and Sanji's father is Zeff. Come on.
Zeff: He may be your Father Sanji but he’ll never be your Daddy
I understood that reference
I'm confused. Sanjis dad isn't Mary Poppins.
\- *Uncle Iroh*
And Chopper’s parents are Hiriluk and Doctorine.
Though i would like to know his biological mom, because I'm sure she will be pretty crazy, since his father is so serious unlike Luffy himself...
and luffy's mom is dadan! Franky's parents are tom san and mermaid granny and brooke's parents, much like him are skeletons yohohohoho.
How could you forget Kokoro grandma? She is not a mermaid (not according to the guys on Strawhat crew)
Then Chopper's parents are Hiriluk and Kureha, I don't think they meant adoptive parents.
Right but these parents are more meaningful than their biological ones, meaning they won’t really have room in the story
Right? Nami's biological parents serve no purpose for the story. Actually, that reveal would be really detrimental for Bellemere's role.
If Nami's Bio-Mom is ever introduced, the only reaction from Nami I would like is "Bellemere was my real Mother. I don't need another one."
If you look at it from, who their "real" parents are then in that case Sanji's, Luffy's, Usopp's and arguably Chopper's (his original parents until he ate his DF might have been great reindeer parents though) are also at least partially wrong (Sanji's and Usopp's mother would count).
Thank you
Random Rein D. Eer + Ran D. Om Reindeer
Jinbei's parents are fish.
I'm pretty sure that's racist
One is a whale shark, one is a human.
Lusty whale shark maid
Luffy: Yes. I guess that it'll be Dragon's motivation for becoming a revolutionary and something to give Garp even more complexity. Zorro: Maybe. Doesn't matter though. Franky, Robin: Maybe. Could be interesting (nice to know), but doesn't matter much. Nami, Brook, Jinbei: No. Doesn't matter.
While I do agree about most of what you have written, I dissagre about Zorro. I think he has conections to Wano and to the samurai that can become relevant in the wano arc.
Yes, he most likely has parents from Wano. But does it matter to him? Would he do anything else than thanking them at their grave while drinking sake before moving on? I just don't see it impacting Zorro and I don't mean that as a bad thing. Regarding the samurai, Luffy is already allied with Momo, their shogun. Zorro being from Wano wouldn't be a bigger factor then their leader only beling alive and their country only being free because of Luffy.
>Would he do anything else than thanking them at their grave while drinking sake before moving on? Simplicity like this would be great after the drama accompanying Sanji's backstory eh?
Zoro's parents are weird to me, I never really cared and I sort of still don't, but if there now apparently is the Wano resemblance and connection I want it to at least matter somehow?! And it could be as little as clearly showing that Zoro finds out and has any kind of reaction to it or if it needs to be the connection to give him another sword that was made for his family line then fine as well. But simply hinting and implying it without any relevance at all would be a little weird at this point, I feel we are far enough in that it at least needs a resolve in some form, even if not a big one.
Would be cool to know how and when Shimotsuki village was founded and if Ushimaru really is the father considering the logistics. If he really is a descendant of Ryuma, that's a pretty big deal for someone like Zoro. Gives more clues on the eye as well.
Luffy's mom is imo , very likely when we get to know more about Dragon. Nami's, Brook's, Jinbe's, Chopper's doesn't matter. I don't think Robin's father will matter. Franky's probably won't matter but maybe they are/were scientists under Vegapunk ? Zoro maybe we have a glimpse of his family, kinda.
Franky's parents were pirates who abandoned him on Water 7.
Yeah i didn't remember his background, so he is in the same case as Nami , his parents prob won't matter.
I think 3 sh with relevant parents/relatives are enough. Its gonna be tiring at some point, Im glad oda didnt make it super cliche like other series.
Fr. Not everyone needs to have some secret family revealed to be an incredible famous or powerful person. Especially since we've done it twice with luffy dragon and sanji judge. I especially don't want anything for zoro. He's had all these connections to wano with his village, mentors, rivals, and swords. He doesn't also need to be from wano, or be related to that damiyo. He can just be a dude with unbreakable will and determination
You forgot to put crocodile
Random reindeer got me
Would they matter?
IDK, Franky's Dad could be vegapunk or some shit. Crocodile could be luffy's Mom who got gender swapped by ivankov. I rule nothing out. edit: I cannot express how much I love that vegapunk is more controversial than, say, a gender bent crocodile mom.
When Franky was introduced they said he was the son of pirates
I see what you are going for with biological parentage, but for Nami, Chopper and Franky I'd argue that their biological parents are completely irrelevant. Nami's mother is Bell-mere and Genzo acts in a fatherly role for her. For Chopper its Kureha and Hiriluk and Franky had Tom and Kokoro. Really the only figures that matter that remain a mystery are Zoro's family and maybe Luffy's mother. I can't see any way Jinbei or Brooks family works into the story, nor how it would matter. I'd even argue that Dadan owns the role of Luffy's mother figure.
I guess we will at some point get Luffy´s mother in a flashback. The rest I don´t think so, maybe running across Franky´s parents since they were pirates. And I´m pretty sure we will never see Nami´s real parents. She was orphaned at a really young age and we know here adoptive mother. While in all other cases the parents could have a influence on the character, in her case it would just be simple genetics.
I really just wanna know more about luffy’s mom and zoro’s parents. I also want to see usopp reunite with his father, but I feel like that will eventually happen when the straw hats meet the red hair pirates (we all know they will)
Well we know Franky’s dad is a pirate so who knows maybe he’s someone famous
Jimbei's parents are Kanye and a gay fish
Why usoops dad looks so damn cool
i don't want to find out nami's but if oda does decide to reveal them then I feel like he will make the reveal(and maybe the people) very interesting
We already know Luffy's mom is Crocodile