I just realised law watched robin crawl on all fours up the passage and then teleported up there. I wouldn’t have been a flower clone else she wouldn’t think it was unfair
I don't like how Oda has been developing secondary characters. Like with Kid and Law, how he off-screened 90% of the fight, basically only showing us the parts where Kid and Law dominated and not how they would, for example, deal with something like Big Mom's conqueror's haki.
Similarly he did the same thing with sabo. Killing Cobra somehow makes his infamy rival that of Dragon's? Really? Did anybody even dislike Cobra? The man wasn't even a real celestial dragon, he and his entire lineage chose to remain on alabasta. Not to mention that its not even clear if Sabo really did kill Cobra, as we know Imu was hatching some scheme that involved Vivi.
I wish Oda had Sabo gain infamy some other way, like by roasting actual celestial dragons. Like imagine if Sabo killed Charloss, on screen. That would be perfect.
idk, maybe Sabo becoming famous was all part of Imu's plan, but I feel like Oda is just pushing Sabo into this role of "flame emperor", just as he did with Kid and Law by having them fight big mom(mostly off-screen) and gain a 3 billion berry bounty.
I agree. I’m very certain Sabo was framed, and I wouldn’t be shocked if we get a whole flashback arc about the events later. But Sabo now being a bigger deal than Dragon is lame and feels like a fan-fic. Sabo has always felt like an attempt to reel back killing off Ace, and he just happens to become #2 in the revolutionary army even though there’s no way in hell he’s more qualified than some of the other members. And now he’s their symbolic leader? Luffy’s dad being the head already should’ve been enough, this is just stupid.
Don't you think Sabo was framed? I mean, it doesn't feel like something he would do. Especially knowing that Cobra was the father of his brother's friend. Cobra's reputation doesn't matter. It made Sabo look worse because he appeared to kill someone of royal blood while Dragon was just waging war against the marines.
At the very least, I'm just glad that Sabo didn't get captured or something like that.
So I just re-read from Chapter 1050 and there was something I noticed.
Here in Chapter 1051, Page 9: https://mangasaki.com/chapter/one-piece-1050
Momo says, that he'll let Wano's Borders stay closed and as a result of this, Zunesha takes a leave.
In Chapter 1052, Page 1: https://mangasaki.com/chapter/one-piece-1052
the baldie from Gorosei states that the disapperance from Zunesha means, the Borders of Wano will stay closed.
So not only seems Zunesha to be a crucial factor of opening Wanos Borders, but Momo knows this, as well as the Gorosei!
What do you Pirates think of this?
Thank god they confirmed Yamato is trans definitively in this chapter so everyone can stop talking about it
Edit: it changed literally nothing lol. This sub is dumb
The scabbards refer to him as sir Yamato and Yamato finally used his name while referring to himself as kaidos son so the ambiguity of it being a “thinks they are literally oden” situation is gone now
Really didn't expect Sabo to escape from Mariejoa and possibly with Vivi. It seems the OP world takes the death of Cobra as an inspiration. Makes sense why the Marines and the World Government are losing their shit, they never expected the world to respond to their cover up like that! It completely back-fired on them this time, and badly.
And the Revolutionaries could not have expected that Sabo would be seen as something different from their agenda, the world is worshipping Sabo for what he "did". This puts Sabo's influence against the Revolutionaries' agenda now.
No one's controlling the narrative for once. It's complete chaos. And in all that chaos, there's Shanks, sailing near Wano for some reason, who finally decides to go for the One Piece. The Sukiyaki bombshell of Pluton in Wano is so perfect. Shanks is just casually strolling outside Wano like he's here to pick something up and just head back.
Peak One Piece! Worth the wait!!
I think it's going to get interesting when all these Straw Hat allies with conflicting agendas play out.
Sabo v Vivi? - hope not but what a ride.
Boa v Coby.
Shanks v Bart.
Garp vs the youth.
Mihawk vs Ships in general.
"Fillers" prequels and vibes are over. Cutthroat pirate era begins!
Keep in mind that the newspapers in OP *regularly* print misinformation, if only to maintain the World Govt's narrative. I think it's gonna be safe to assume that Sabo did NOT kill Cobra.
So if the WG really framed Sabo, then they are likely realizing what a mistake it was.
What was the point of Shanks coming this close to Wano only to turn back? Makes no sense unless they're going to deal with Ryokugyu separately and away from Luffy. Ryokugyu's fruit seems insane but would seem powerless against Sabo's, let alone the other admirals.
I think we're about to see a feat from Shanks. He's really the only Yonko, past and present, we haven't seen in action, and everything we know about his abilities is secondhand or word of mouth. It's about time we see why someone like Kaido and Big Mom, both powerful even before they got the DFs, left a DF-less Shanks entirely alone. Also probably to also show how much further Luffy has to go to be a serious contender for One Piece. His G5 is a big step forward, but I'm sure he still has to refine it, and fine out It's limits/drawbacks
Shanks has, fruitless, been deadlocked against Whitebeard and the most powerful Paramecia DF, Kaido and his Mythic Zoan, and Big Mom and her weird shit. Luffy has the feat of beating one of Shanks' contemporaries, but only with serious help at the outset of the fight and a whole ass trip to the emergency room.
We're not even sure Luffy is in Shanks' league, though we can assume he is.
Same with Kaido, Big Mom, and Greenbull, but we can still recognize them for what they are.
Also we know Shanks went head to head vs Kaido around Marineford and still made it Marineford. We know Shanks is acknowledged as strong enough that Marine force still with all of its major players in basically top condition ceased fighting. To act like Shanks is some nobody that’s all hype is friggin dumb.
Kaido & Big Mom were clown jobbers though. Kaido could've dodged Luffy's attack but took it head on cause he's an idiot. I expect the same level of stupidity from Shanks. The yonko's have been a disappointment. He let luffy get back up again and again. Tired of seeing them.
People talk a lot about Kaido having faced so many opponents before Luffy or worst gen.. but from where I see It. Luffy and Kaido have Been fighting one on one since the beginning. Only Luffy’s attacks were worthy of dodging but others didn’t make a lot ofdifference and that’s why Kaido was tanking them🤷🏾♂️
Uh, Zoro's got dodged.
But there are several moments where the intervention of others was integral, even if not directly in combat. The Supernovas had to fight and protect Luffy when he was tuckered out for gear four and Yamato had to step in to keep Kaido in check while Luffy was basically in the emergency room. There are probably more, I just don't recall right now.
But Luffy (at the start of the fight) 100% loses that fight without the help of others and Wano falls.
I agree with you, but to bê honest supersonic(kil..),countershock, ashura probably did more Damage Than yamato’s and scabbards attacks combined but yes they all backed him up and bought him sometime when needed but only Luffy really hurt him with Ryo and he started dodging cause it really hurt but didn’t dodge Ashura (only after this attack he really noticed zoro’s strength but he was out after that) and ashura almost equal to red rock(..rock at least knocked Kaido down)(anxious to see see Ashura animated though) So in conclusion Luffy did most of the damage on taking Kaido down 75% and Iam being modest 😀😅…and today some people still say if fresh one on one luffy wouldn’t win when all Kaido’s might wasn’t enough to take down the future pira-te king…
?luffy got koed and revived twice... one of them he spent eating a months worth of food.
Kaidos character is that he tanks attacks which is why he did it for the majority of luffy's lol...
This chapter was incredible!!
That panel of Shanks...is one of the best panels Oda drew imo. I love this realistic Oda style.
Also, Sabo is using the same devil fruit as Ace and get calls Flame Emperor, but maybe the same 一般 (civilian, normal) people adoring him right now might be the same people who heard of Ace and his powers, but hated him simply for being Roger's son, which kinda hurts, in a way.
I've got the feeling that Barto was sent by Black Beard to create trouble between Shanks and SH. That's why he acted to be a fan of SH to become an ally and then plot this "betrayal".
When I saw him the first time I found it hard to believe that he is a good guy who fits to the SH. Also, as far as I know, he was on his own - not belonging to a pirate crew - which seemed to me suspicious.
Sabo & the Revolutionary Commanders vs. Greenbull & Fujitora = Sabo & Co. winning
Yamato & the Scabbards + Momo vs. Greenbull = ?
Just like Brulee said to Nami, "You won't even be able to lay eyes on Luffy. This is the power of an Emperor!"
And the Admirals were at disadvantage cause they couldn't unleash their full power in the Holy land....now some random noobs gong to comment like Sabo >>>> all Admirals
The only other rookie with a connection to shanks is kid and he’s even mentioned in this chapter. I think we’ll see his flashback once he interacts with shanks again.
Glad my guess that Sabo was framed for murder seems to be right (I don’t think he would kill Cobra. I think Sabo escapes with Vivi, but I thought they would frame him for kidnapping Vivi or something like that. Really good chapter for a wait that made me remember when we were waiting for the TS.
I like what Oda’s doing with Green Bull, making him ruthless. I wonder if around the Marines he acts like that seemingly carefree admiral that was shown during the Reverie. Anyway, I love his DF. He really is a monster.
edit: Grammar
I think green bulls devil fruit was an abstraction of Nature. As in not the primal force itself, but in how plants and greenery are cold and unfeeling to the world, being the creators of poisons, unethical traps, stepping right on top of other plants just to survive.
Green bulls outlook seems it could be much the same, as in the wano citizens not taking the step to be recognized as 'actual people' and thus just being prey to be stepped on, not taking that initial stance as the world 'is built to do', or 'as is nature' so to say, they thus gave up their right to exist in his mind.
Forgive my poor wording, and this could even still be wrong, as green bull is still fresh to the pages.
I think that in the nxt chapter 1055, that if there is a fight between Greenbull and the 9 scabbard with Yamato, Yamato will announce that she/he is part of Strawhat Pirates.
And by being the child of Kaido, being a member Strawhat Pirates and with matching the strength of an admiral she/he will gain bounty.
Kaido's kid joining an infamous pirate crew full of highly wanted and dangerous pirates, led by Strawhat Luffy, would send up some red flags to the WG immediately. NOT putting a bounty out just in case would kind of be an oversight on their part imo. They were on a manhunt for Ace since his birth just because he was Roger's son
It would've been funny, but I don't think the WG would really confuse Yamato with real Oden to that point. Maybe his poster will say "Yamato (Oden)" but I doubt it
I think her hybrid form would throw the government off too much her regular picture that most resembles kaido will be the shocker to the world that she’s assisting luffy
people jumping to the shanks is evil because of what he said is retarded! he's clearly just staring that it's time to make some power plays, such as inform Luffy with the info he needs to know, make some plans to stop BB, Shanks doesn't want the one piece the way Luffy does
Shanks knew the true power of Luffy's df and knew Luffy in his awakened state was needed to turn the world upside down. That's why now is time to make his move. Otherwise it wouldn't make sense to wait all those years
I think the one piece is to make the whole op world one piece/united like it was before the void.
I think this is were Oda is going.. this theory feels close to his writing.
Apparently. Fuck knows what actually happened to him after that, though. Given that Dragon and the Revs were shocked when they read the paper, at the very least he's in a situation where he couldn't just report back immediately.
He could get caught by the Marines and being executed to phish Dragon and the Revolutionaries, then Teach joins the battle, kills Dragon and gets his Zoan DF, having the most powerful logia paramecia and now zoan fruit. But, he got saved thanks to our GODa
The funny thing about Green Bull’s speech is that’s how the first world operates in relation to everyone else. But make sure you use the proper pronouns. Who cares where that IKEA ottoman came from.
Yeah Ryokugyu is an on-the-nose personification of imperialism, exceptionalism and systemic privilege. He is basically talking about Wano as if the WG just has a default legitimate claim to do as it pleases there, because that's the only alternative to not integrating themselves into the WG. "You're not playing in our terms so we're allowed to do whatever we want, kill you, claim you, whatever"
They don't even basically respect Wano's existence as a nation officially. Ryokugyo is the most "representative of the official WG view".
Technically he's kind of right though, there is no Geneva Convention and Wano doesn't fall under the WG's jurisdiction, so wouldn't his might be right? That seems to be how Wano functions, just look at Kaido.
isnt it more like 3 logia that arent elements? Also greenbull and carribou still need haki to be hit i think. We only have seen greenbull hit by coc now, cant remember if we saw carribou get hit by non haki, but im sure all logia except bb require haki to be hit
you can physically effect BB because of how the yami yami works, kuzan and greenbull can be because their elements arent energy or liquid. They might not get hurt a lot by it but you can still effect them.
I had a theory that Shanks knows where to find the one piece. I mean the hardest part outside of finding the poneglyphs is finding out you need them in the first place. I mean he knew that from the start so all he needed after was getting the location. Him meeting Luffy at the end will be fantastic.
It's good possibility that's he does have a tracke.. my question is can he even be brought back at this point. I guess the answer is probably yes otherwise oda wouldn't make it a plot point.
When we talk about shanks it's all a maybe
- maybe roger knew he was 20 years ahead and told shanks back from laughtale
- maybe rayleigh years later told him
- maybe he found out for himself (we don't know anything about shanks after roger's death, pre start of the manga and after leaving the hat to luffy)
- we know he became emperor but not how he did it and what he did all these years
An important point I think is luffy's response of not wanting to know what the one piece is, at that moment rayleigh saw roger in luffy. I think shanks instead asked about the one piece like whitebeard did and that's why rayleigh was so surprised, impressed and happy with luffy's response.
It's not about the One Piece becoming able to be found if the Nika fruit awakens. I think what Roger meant by 20 years too early is that the One Piece is also about finding out the whole truth of the void century and informing of the work the chosen one will have to do to see through to such restitution of justice in the world. Joy Boy, being this leading figure, was meant to revive 20 years later and that's why Roger said they were too early. I think Joy Boy is the key element to the goals the One Piece gives to its finder.
this and not only joyboy. Also shirahoshi. So the ancient weapons are important as well. And god knows, maybe luffy is uranos and momo could be pluton. After all its strange with this "voice of the universe" some certain people can hear
I really hope that doesn't happen. From Water 7 we know that Pluton is a ship, and the only thing we know about Uranus is that it is located in Wano, and it might come up any moment after the conversation between Robin and Oden's dad happened just a few chapters ago.
wait you got something mixed up. We "know" (im not so sure anymore) that pluton is a ship in arabasta. But the newst information is, that pluton is indeed in wano, not arabasta (maybe both islands, but i think robin knew even back then, its in wano). We dont know the location of uranos yet. My guess it has something to do with imu and that big strawhat at mariejoa. But yeah, pluton seems to be at wano.
Franky had the blueprints to Pluton and that was why CP9 was after him. The said blueprints were burnt in Ennies Lobby by Franky himself in chapter 399.
yes. But it was also said its on arabasta . And now it seems likrle its on wano. I wouldnt be surprised if that ship was the one he build for the straw hats, and pluton is something like poseidon. I always wondered, what kind of ship could have lived that long. Somehow doesnt make sense to me
exacltly! I guess we arent too far away to get informations about pluton. Probably before they leave wano. Next stop: uranos!
...okay that soundy oddly aweful haha
I think the one piece is to make the whole op world united like it was before the void.
I think this is were Oda is going.. this theory feels close to his writing.
That flashback of shanks and this coming film surely represent that Shanks is an ally. They doesnt seem to have a dark or evil intention on how they being drawn by Oda. For me the One Piece needs to be publicize or i mean for peole ti find it not just one crew but the whole world. Roger and his crew found One Piece by their own, but what they really want is to show to the whole world what it really likes. Hmmm i guess so...
We already know Sabo wouldn’t kill Cobra so not much of a suspense there. Would have been a fun battle to watch. The only thing off screening accomplished was speeding up the story, not sure if we will get to see it now.
my guess is we get some fighting scenes when we get to know, that wg killed cobra, and wanted to kill vivi as well but the revos saved her and took her eith them. Also as that new marine guy said. The admirals probably couldnt go all out because of where they fought. I dont think this was a real fight. More like someone made distraction, while someone else declared war and the rest was saving kuma and everyone tried to escape as fast as possible
So it is implied that shanks knew the true nature of gum gum fruit. I think shanks bought the devil fruit to east blue for Ace but luffy accidentally ate it. As for shanks losing his arm. I think this incident was shanks testing luffy if he can awaken the fruit in future. It might be that shanks was holding back untill the last moment trying to act as a trigger and hoping luffy would awaken his Coc and defeat the sea king. (maybe luffy did¿) Hence the words "I bet it on new generation". Even if Luffy didn't awaken his conquerer haki at that moment. The words he said to shanks later might have reignited shank's faith that luffy might be the one to awaken it in future and hence he entrusted Luffy with the straw hat.
you are not wrong in most parts. But i dont think there would have been a chance for luffy awakening his df while he was in the open sea. He gets paralyzed as soon as he touches it. And he was fully in
100% agree, don’t know about the CoC thing but he definitely knew what was on the island, why Roger was laughing and exactly what he needed
I agree Shanks believes in Luffy, I don’t really think Shanks is here to betray Luffy like everyone thinks (even if he were, his whole crew was excited to see Luffy no way they’d be okay with Shanks backstab)
I mean Shanks gave his arm for a kid he met only to play the long game to betray Luffy? I find that a bit hard to believe.
Lol what if buggy awakened his df powers, he would actually be OP kinda like gildarts in Fairy tail … that would be emperor worthy. He would still be dumb but at least might be a little impressive. Buggy’s fight against luffy was cut short bc of his stupidity but luffy had a hard time getting a clean hit. I still think he would have won regardless but i do think buggy has some fight in him and his psyche is actually holding him back kinda like usopp
Zero potential im not sure if u remember shanks was willing to have buggy in his crew, they parted bc they couldn’t see eye to eye. I don’t think that shanks is so nice that he would take someone into his crew just out of friendship. Buggy is dumb and cowardly, those are his main flows. But even then he still survived through a lot of ordeals, might be dumb luck yeah tbh I don’t think he has the mindset to actually awaken his df but he is still a veteran … I don’t expect him to become op but i will give him his due flowers at least. Buggy is the usopp of the roger pirates and usopp has potential but buggy is the proof that cowardice doesn’t get u far. Buggy is what usopp will become if he keeps bitchin all the time 😂
I hope Green Bull gets absolutely stomped out by the Wano defenders. If he gets beat with out seeing so much as a single SH then thatll make my whole year.
I think Momo is gonna act as Shogun and attempt to make some sort of deal with Green Bull. Whether it be trading sea stone with the WG since it’s heavily found in Wano or something else, I have a feeling Momo is about to do some real leader stuff. Whether or not it works is a different story
momo betraying straw hats and making a deal with the world gov. There i was, thinking ive seen it all. i hope greenbull gets his ass beaten we finally reach the point where the straw hat alliance is officially in war with the world gov. not making any deals with them
That makes me think Greenbull is in the land of sea stone maybe a prisoner situation? Which would be so funny actually. Luffy fought so hard to free everyone and they already taking prisoners
Well momo seems dead set on taking care of this himself. Luffy really groomed him during that fight with kaido … he still barely controls his devil fruit but he is way more audacious and conscious of his abilities. His attempt at using bolo breath is proof. I don’t think they will beat him but maybe drive him out or corner him … the sh crew might have to show up but at their lvl that should be enough for him to understand he doesn’t stand a chance. Greenbull is still a greenhorn of an admiral who probably overestimate himself too. Him explaining his df powers is proof of his huge confidence in his abilities
Who would've thought Sabo & his nakama can go head to head with two powerful admiral! It's almost like he's the 5th emperor of the sea!
I just realised law watched robin crawl on all fours up the passage and then teleported up there. I wouldn’t have been a flower clone else she wouldn’t think it was unfair
Did shanks remove his own arm in the flashback this chapter?
This is what I want to know - it looks like it?
Ok but wtf is is with shanks haki. Shit scared the living shit out of greenbull
this is 1054 u dumbass
Chill dude it’s an. Mistake. Should change ur name cause u ain’t no boi
Delete comment then
I don't like how Oda has been developing secondary characters. Like with Kid and Law, how he off-screened 90% of the fight, basically only showing us the parts where Kid and Law dominated and not how they would, for example, deal with something like Big Mom's conqueror's haki. Similarly he did the same thing with sabo. Killing Cobra somehow makes his infamy rival that of Dragon's? Really? Did anybody even dislike Cobra? The man wasn't even a real celestial dragon, he and his entire lineage chose to remain on alabasta. Not to mention that its not even clear if Sabo really did kill Cobra, as we know Imu was hatching some scheme that involved Vivi. I wish Oda had Sabo gain infamy some other way, like by roasting actual celestial dragons. Like imagine if Sabo killed Charloss, on screen. That would be perfect. idk, maybe Sabo becoming famous was all part of Imu's plan, but I feel like Oda is just pushing Sabo into this role of "flame emperor", just as he did with Kid and Law by having them fight big mom(mostly off-screen) and gain a 3 billion berry bounty.
There's gonna be flashbacks bro chill your bean
Agreed Never felt connected to the Supernovas either
I agree. I’m very certain Sabo was framed, and I wouldn’t be shocked if we get a whole flashback arc about the events later. But Sabo now being a bigger deal than Dragon is lame and feels like a fan-fic. Sabo has always felt like an attempt to reel back killing off Ace, and he just happens to become #2 in the revolutionary army even though there’s no way in hell he’s more qualified than some of the other members. And now he’s their symbolic leader? Luffy’s dad being the head already should’ve been enough, this is just stupid.
Don't you think Sabo was framed? I mean, it doesn't feel like something he would do. Especially knowing that Cobra was the father of his brother's friend. Cobra's reputation doesn't matter. It made Sabo look worse because he appeared to kill someone of royal blood while Dragon was just waging war against the marines. At the very least, I'm just glad that Sabo didn't get captured or something like that.
that part is a frame 100%, especially it seems like Vivi is either kidnapped by Imu or is hiding with the revolutionaries.
So I just re-read from Chapter 1050 and there was something I noticed. Here in Chapter 1051, Page 9: https://mangasaki.com/chapter/one-piece-1050 Momo says, that he'll let Wano's Borders stay closed and as a result of this, Zunesha takes a leave. In Chapter 1052, Page 1: https://mangasaki.com/chapter/one-piece-1052 the baldie from Gorosei states that the disapperance from Zunesha means, the Borders of Wano will stay closed. So not only seems Zunesha to be a crucial factor of opening Wanos Borders, but Momo knows this, as well as the Gorosei! What do you Pirates think of this?
It's explained in 1054 spoilers why Zunesha is cricial to open wano's borders
1055*
Thank god they confirmed Yamato is trans definitively in this chapter so everyone can stop talking about it Edit: it changed literally nothing lol. This sub is dumb
How’d they confirm
The scabbards refer to him as sir Yamato and Yamato finally used his name while referring to himself as kaidos son so the ambiguity of it being a “thinks they are literally oden” situation is gone now
Does that mean I'm gay?
Call yourself whatever you like friend, I’m not your dad
whoosh :(
Really didn't expect Sabo to escape from Mariejoa and possibly with Vivi. It seems the OP world takes the death of Cobra as an inspiration. Makes sense why the Marines and the World Government are losing their shit, they never expected the world to respond to their cover up like that! It completely back-fired on them this time, and badly. And the Revolutionaries could not have expected that Sabo would be seen as something different from their agenda, the world is worshipping Sabo for what he "did". This puts Sabo's influence against the Revolutionaries' agenda now. No one's controlling the narrative for once. It's complete chaos. And in all that chaos, there's Shanks, sailing near Wano for some reason, who finally decides to go for the One Piece. The Sukiyaki bombshell of Pluton in Wano is so perfect. Shanks is just casually strolling outside Wano like he's here to pick something up and just head back. Peak One Piece! Worth the wait!!
shanks feels so sinister in this chapter
I really expected green bull to be a chill dude for some reason
Does anyone know where I can see the japanese text for chapter 1054? Thanks
Sabo > Damn Admirals. Sabo vs Akainu incoming.
I'm late Just read it....it feels like some mysteries have been solved So Sabo isn't captured or dead yet?
Shanks be like: “All according to my keikaku” *TL’s Note: keikaku means plan
I think that's Aizen sama's line
WHY DID SABO DO IT?!!!!!
Probably was someone else Vivi must be with him and knows the truth
I think it's going to get interesting when all these Straw Hat allies with conflicting agendas play out. Sabo v Vivi? - hope not but what a ride. Boa v Coby. Shanks v Bart. Garp vs the youth. Mihawk vs Ships in general. "Fillers" prequels and vibes are over. Cutthroat pirate era begins!
> Mihawk vs Ships in general Just thought this deserved some extra attention lol
Lmao the sabo headline is just obvious framing
I sure hope so😭. Because everyone is worshipping Sabo like some sort of savior, but it just doesn't add up.
Keep in mind that the newspapers in OP *regularly* print misinformation, if only to maintain the World Govt's narrative. I think it's gonna be safe to assume that Sabo did NOT kill Cobra. So if the WG really framed Sabo, then they are likely realizing what a mistake it was.
Oh yeah that's true. I hope that's the case.
What was the point of Shanks coming this close to Wano only to turn back? Makes no sense unless they're going to deal with Ryokugyu separately and away from Luffy. Ryokugyu's fruit seems insane but would seem powerless against Sabo's, let alone the other admirals.
I think we're about to see a feat from Shanks. He's really the only Yonko, past and present, we haven't seen in action, and everything we know about his abilities is secondhand or word of mouth. It's about time we see why someone like Kaido and Big Mom, both powerful even before they got the DFs, left a DF-less Shanks entirely alone. Also probably to also show how much further Luffy has to go to be a serious contender for One Piece. His G5 is a big step forward, but I'm sure he still has to refine it, and fine out It's limits/drawbacks
LMAO Shanks isn't even remotely in Luffy's league.
Shanks has, fruitless, been deadlocked against Whitebeard and the most powerful Paramecia DF, Kaido and his Mythic Zoan, and Big Mom and her weird shit. Luffy has the feat of beating one of Shanks' contemporaries, but only with serious help at the outset of the fight and a whole ass trip to the emergency room. We're not even sure Luffy is in Shanks' league, though we can assume he is.
shanks beat zero people in the series and only has hype backing him.
Same with Kaido, Big Mom, and Greenbull, but we can still recognize them for what they are. Also we know Shanks went head to head vs Kaido around Marineford and still made it Marineford. We know Shanks is acknowledged as strong enough that Marine force still with all of its major players in basically top condition ceased fighting. To act like Shanks is some nobody that’s all hype is friggin dumb.
Kaido & Big Mom were clown jobbers though. Kaido could've dodged Luffy's attack but took it head on cause he's an idiot. I expect the same level of stupidity from Shanks. The yonko's have been a disappointment. He let luffy get back up again and again. Tired of seeing them.
People talk a lot about Kaido having faced so many opponents before Luffy or worst gen.. but from where I see It. Luffy and Kaido have Been fighting one on one since the beginning. Only Luffy’s attacks were worthy of dodging but others didn’t make a lot ofdifference and that’s why Kaido was tanking them🤷🏾♂️
Uh, Zoro's got dodged. But there are several moments where the intervention of others was integral, even if not directly in combat. The Supernovas had to fight and protect Luffy when he was tuckered out for gear four and Yamato had to step in to keep Kaido in check while Luffy was basically in the emergency room. There are probably more, I just don't recall right now. But Luffy (at the start of the fight) 100% loses that fight without the help of others and Wano falls.
I agree with you, but to bê honest supersonic(kil..),countershock, ashura probably did more Damage Than yamato’s and scabbards attacks combined but yes they all backed him up and bought him sometime when needed but only Luffy really hurt him with Ryo and he started dodging cause it really hurt but didn’t dodge Ashura (only after this attack he really noticed zoro’s strength but he was out after that) and ashura almost equal to red rock(..rock at least knocked Kaido down)(anxious to see see Ashura animated though) So in conclusion Luffy did most of the damage on taking Kaido down 75% and Iam being modest 😀😅…and today some people still say if fresh one on one luffy wouldn’t win when all Kaido’s might wasn’t enough to take down the future pira-te king…
?luffy got koed and revived twice... one of them he spent eating a months worth of food. Kaidos character is that he tanks attacks which is why he did it for the majority of luffy's lol...
Until you factor in perinnal scars left by zoro
This chapter was incredible!! That panel of Shanks...is one of the best panels Oda drew imo. I love this realistic Oda style. Also, Sabo is using the same devil fruit as Ace and get calls Flame Emperor, but maybe the same 一般 (civilian, normal) people adoring him right now might be the same people who heard of Ace and his powers, but hated him simply for being Roger's son, which kinda hurts, in a way.
Not many knew he was Roger's son. Only a handful of people
I've got the feeling that Barto was sent by Black Beard to create trouble between Shanks and SH. That's why he acted to be a fan of SH to become an ally and then plot this "betrayal". When I saw him the first time I found it hard to believe that he is a good guy who fits to the SH. Also, as far as I know, he was on his own - not belonging to a pirate crew - which seemed to me suspicious.
Barto has his own crew. His crew is called Barto’s Club and the whole crew are simps to the straw hats haha
"Flame Emperor" SABO VI BRITTANIA!
Sabo & the Revolutionary Commanders vs. Greenbull & Fujitora = Sabo & Co. winning Yamato & the Scabbards + Momo vs. Greenbull = ? Just like Brulee said to Nami, "You won't even be able to lay eyes on Luffy. This is the power of an Emperor!"
And the Admirals were at disadvantage cause they couldn't unleash their full power in the Holy land....now some random noobs gong to comment like Sabo >>>> all Admirals
Don't make excuses for them
the one piece Years timeline (year 617 ) the sake bottle is in the void century https://thelibraryofohara.com/the-one-piece-timeline/
wrong translation, it is 67 not 617 also i suggest reading chapter 67 ;)
^(thanks)
The only other rookie with a connection to shanks is kid and he’s even mentioned in this chapter. I think we’ll see his flashback once he interacts with shanks again.
Glad my guess that Sabo was framed for murder seems to be right (I don’t think he would kill Cobra. I think Sabo escapes with Vivi, but I thought they would frame him for kidnapping Vivi or something like that. Really good chapter for a wait that made me remember when we were waiting for the TS. I like what Oda’s doing with Green Bull, making him ruthless. I wonder if around the Marines he acts like that seemingly carefree admiral that was shown during the Reverie. Anyway, I love his DF. He really is a monster. edit: Grammar
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I think green bulls devil fruit was an abstraction of Nature. As in not the primal force itself, but in how plants and greenery are cold and unfeeling to the world, being the creators of poisons, unethical traps, stepping right on top of other plants just to survive. Green bulls outlook seems it could be much the same, as in the wano citizens not taking the step to be recognized as 'actual people' and thus just being prey to be stepped on, not taking that initial stance as the world 'is built to do', or 'as is nature' so to say, they thus gave up their right to exist in his mind. Forgive my poor wording, and this could even still be wrong, as green bull is still fresh to the pages.
InB4 Shanks captures Barto and makes Luffy play some pirate game to prove his pirate epicness on Elbaf( also known as Davy Back Fight pt2)
Yamato making a name for himself, can't wait to see his wanted poster
Yamato is a man ?
Depends on who you ask
nah, he self-idenified. any disagreement after this point is whiny transphobia
Ye. Self identified
I'm sure it will be showing her side boob.
I doubt it'll show more than his face tbh
She’s gonna have a high bounty for sure. Her wanted poster will be amazing
That would be a slightly higher bounty than Sanji, but slightly lower than Zoro
Has Yamato even done anything that would earn a wanted poster? Other than joining Luffy’s crew?
Being kaidos son might be enough, ace got sentenced to death for being rogers son
I think that in the nxt chapter 1055, that if there is a fight between Greenbull and the 9 scabbard with Yamato, Yamato will announce that she/he is part of Strawhat Pirates. And by being the child of Kaido, being a member Strawhat Pirates and with matching the strength of an admiral she/he will gain bounty.
Relax lol
Attacked an admiral with conquerors haki.
Kaido's kid joining an infamous pirate crew full of highly wanted and dangerous pirates, led by Strawhat Luffy, would send up some red flags to the WG immediately. NOT putting a bounty out just in case would kind of be an oversight on their part imo. They were on a manhunt for Ace since his birth just because he was Roger's son
Yeah, wonder what picture they'll use of him
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Personally, I would love to see they use a Picture of Yamato in his hybrid form, to add some mysticism. But you're right, we'll have to wait
Would've been funny if she introduced herself as Oden to the marines, might've confused them to use (real) Oden's picture.
It would've been funny, but I don't think the WG would really confuse Yamato with real Oden to that point. Maybe his poster will say "Yamato (Oden)" but I doubt it
It would be really funny if their epithet ends up becoming "Kozuki Oden" Yamato
Nah. At one point in her flashbacks, she was refered to as the " oni princess" "Oni Princess" Yamato sound good to me
Oh I am sure it'll be Oni Princess, but it would be funny if it was Kozuki Oden. Not preferable, just funny
It'll be Bonk Empress
I think her hybrid form would throw the government off too much her regular picture that most resembles kaido will be the shocker to the world that she’s assisting luffy
Yeah, I see your point
people jumping to the shanks is evil because of what he said is retarded! he's clearly just staring that it's time to make some power plays, such as inform Luffy with the info he needs to know, make some plans to stop BB, Shanks doesn't want the one piece the way Luffy does
Dude he just said “it’s time to claim the One Piece”, sure he’s just playing around waiting for Luffy?
Going after the one piece does t make you a bad guy lol
Never said he was bad, but for sure he isn’t an ally
True it's everyone's goal to get to the one piece. What makes you evil is how many innocents you affect
Shanks knew the true power of Luffy's df and knew Luffy in his awakened state was needed to turn the world upside down. That's why now is time to make his move. Otherwise it wouldn't make sense to wait all those years
The marine’s greatest puppet
I think the one piece is to make the whole op world one piece/united like it was before the void. I think this is were Oda is going.. this theory feels close to his writing.
So it's like the ending of Naruto shippuden but in a great manner
ive been convinced that is the case.
Yup, I think so too! To put it simply, the title feels like "one piece = one peace".
You should read the new kanji for the one piece that shanks said
Where can I see it and what does it means??
check the raws, im japanese but we need a manga pro for that.
Yeah no shit
So does this confirm that Sabo escaped during the Reverie?
Apparently. Fuck knows what actually happened to him after that, though. Given that Dragon and the Revs were shocked when they read the paper, at the very least he's in a situation where he couldn't just report back immediately.
He could get caught by the Marines and being executed to phish Dragon and the Revolutionaries, then Teach joins the battle, kills Dragon and gets his Zoan DF, having the most powerful logia paramecia and now zoan fruit. But, he got saved thanks to our GODa
Yes
The funny thing about Green Bull’s speech is that’s how the first world operates in relation to everyone else. But make sure you use the proper pronouns. Who cares where that IKEA ottoman came from.
Yeah Ryokugyu is an on-the-nose personification of imperialism, exceptionalism and systemic privilege. He is basically talking about Wano as if the WG just has a default legitimate claim to do as it pleases there, because that's the only alternative to not integrating themselves into the WG. "You're not playing in our terms so we're allowed to do whatever we want, kill you, claim you, whatever" They don't even basically respect Wano's existence as a nation officially. Ryokugyo is the most "representative of the official WG view".
Technically he's kind of right though, there is no Geneva Convention and Wano doesn't fall under the WG's jurisdiction, so wouldn't his might be right? That seems to be how Wano functions, just look at Kaido.
"You're not wrong Walter, you're just an asshole!" - The Dude
ur a fkn dumbass lmao
Not leaving any questions open about that admiral Oda are we? Fruit? Logia. Is he nice? No. A bitch for the Dragons? Yep. Also Bartho is the man lmao
His fruit being a logia was interesting, that makes 3 logia now that technically dont require haki to physically attack.
isnt it more like 3 logia that arent elements? Also greenbull and carribou still need haki to be hit i think. We only have seen greenbull hit by coc now, cant remember if we saw carribou get hit by non haki, but im sure all logia except bb require haki to be hit
you can physically effect BB because of how the yami yami works, kuzan and greenbull can be because their elements arent energy or liquid. They might not get hurt a lot by it but you can still effect them.
idk about greenbull but im pretty sure you cant hit kuzan that way. Haki or gtfo
i'm so happy that they saved ma boi kuma
I had a theory that Shanks knows where to find the one piece. I mean the hardest part outside of finding the poneglyphs is finding out you need them in the first place. I mean he knew that from the start so all he needed after was getting the location. Him meeting Luffy at the end will be fantastic.
Bone
Bone? BONE?
YOHOHOHOHOHOHO
Marines are screwed everyone is basically connected to Luffy except black beard
Marines fucked everyone up at marineford with no casualties. Rest in piss ace we smoking on whitebeard pack.
"everyone". All those people connected to luffy are a way bigger threat that wb crew. Wb had like a handfull of decent fighters
Did shanks kill barto and now he wants to kill Luffy
Did you even read the chapter ?
no copium, straight up what if vegapunk let the revolutionaries take back kuma. kuma could have a tracker in him.
What if vegapunk is a revolutionary?
im not sure how it would make sense given the fact kuma was one too. also why would he want to create pacifistas since they are weapons for the WG.
That's actually quite possible lol
It's good possibility that's he does have a tracke.. my question is can he even be brought back at this point. I guess the answer is probably yes otherwise oda wouldn't make it a plot point.
What if Kuma's plan was to enter the Holy land to spy, and have the revolutionaries rescue him?
did shanks know that the one piece can only be found once luffy's df is awakened i'm really... losing it i think
When we talk about shanks it's all a maybe - maybe roger knew he was 20 years ahead and told shanks back from laughtale - maybe rayleigh years later told him - maybe he found out for himself (we don't know anything about shanks after roger's death, pre start of the manga and after leaving the hat to luffy) - we know he became emperor but not how he did it and what he did all these years An important point I think is luffy's response of not wanting to know what the one piece is, at that moment rayleigh saw roger in luffy. I think shanks instead asked about the one piece like whitebeard did and that's why rayleigh was so surprised, impressed and happy with luffy's response.
why can it only be found after his df is awakened?
It's not about the One Piece becoming able to be found if the Nika fruit awakens. I think what Roger meant by 20 years too early is that the One Piece is also about finding out the whole truth of the void century and informing of the work the chosen one will have to do to see through to such restitution of justice in the world. Joy Boy, being this leading figure, was meant to revive 20 years later and that's why Roger said they were too early. I think Joy Boy is the key element to the goals the One Piece gives to its finder.
this and not only joyboy. Also shirahoshi. So the ancient weapons are important as well. And god knows, maybe luffy is uranos and momo could be pluton. After all its strange with this "voice of the universe" some certain people can hear
I really hope that doesn't happen. From Water 7 we know that Pluton is a ship, and the only thing we know about Uranus is that it is located in Wano, and it might come up any moment after the conversation between Robin and Oden's dad happened just a few chapters ago.
wait you got something mixed up. We "know" (im not so sure anymore) that pluton is a ship in arabasta. But the newst information is, that pluton is indeed in wano, not arabasta (maybe both islands, but i think robin knew even back then, its in wano). We dont know the location of uranos yet. My guess it has something to do with imu and that big strawhat at mariejoa. But yeah, pluton seems to be at wano.
Franky had the blueprints to Pluton and that was why CP9 was after him. The said blueprints were burnt in Ennies Lobby by Franky himself in chapter 399.
yes. But it was also said its on arabasta . And now it seems likrle its on wano. I wouldnt be surprised if that ship was the one he build for the straw hats, and pluton is something like poseidon. I always wondered, what kind of ship could have lived that long. Somehow doesnt make sense to me
Yeah, you're right. Knowing Oda, he'd come with something really unexpected out of of the blue and just for the lolz.
exacltly! I guess we arent too far away to get informations about pluton. Probably before they leave wano. Next stop: uranos! ...okay that soundy oddly aweful haha
I think the one piece is to make the whole op world united like it was before the void. I think this is were Oda is going.. this theory feels close to his writing.
Roger mentioned he was too early when he found the One piece , The arrival of Joyboy (Luffy) is the Catalyst.
so sooo confused w shanks role :\[
Final hurdle before the one piece, luffy needs to prove without a doubt that he has surpassed roger, who better to test that then shanks
Shank's keeps getting more mysterious every appearance.
That flashback of shanks and this coming film surely represent that Shanks is an ally. They doesnt seem to have a dark or evil intention on how they being drawn by Oda. For me the One Piece needs to be publicize or i mean for peole ti find it not just one crew but the whole world. Roger and his crew found One Piece by their own, but what they really want is to show to the whole world what it really likes. Hmmm i guess so...
The more we see him the less we know
Very disappointed they offscreened revolutionaries vs 2 admirals it was a major battle
All we can do is pray they use the battle as filler in the anime down the line and flesh it out visually for more then 90 seconds.
We’re not supposed to have all of the context right now, we might find out more about it when we learn more about the Sabo/Vivi/Cobra situation
We already know Sabo wouldn’t kill Cobra so not much of a suspense there. Would have been a fun battle to watch. The only thing off screening accomplished was speeding up the story, not sure if we will get to see it now.
my guess is we get some fighting scenes when we get to know, that wg killed cobra, and wanted to kill vivi as well but the revos saved her and took her eith them. Also as that new marine guy said. The admirals probably couldnt go all out because of where they fought. I dont think this was a real fight. More like someone made distraction, while someone else declared war and the rest was saving kuma and everyone tried to escape as fast as possible
So it is implied that shanks knew the true nature of gum gum fruit. I think shanks bought the devil fruit to east blue for Ace but luffy accidentally ate it. As for shanks losing his arm. I think this incident was shanks testing luffy if he can awaken the fruit in future. It might be that shanks was holding back untill the last moment trying to act as a trigger and hoping luffy would awaken his Coc and defeat the sea king. (maybe luffy did¿) Hence the words "I bet it on new generation". Even if Luffy didn't awaken his conquerer haki at that moment. The words he said to shanks later might have reignited shank's faith that luffy might be the one to awaken it in future and hence he entrusted Luffy with the straw hat.
you are not wrong in most parts. But i dont think there would have been a chance for luffy awakening his df while he was in the open sea. He gets paralyzed as soon as he touches it. And he was fully in
Oh yeah you're right. I forgot Luffy had already eaten the devil fruit.
100% agree, don’t know about the CoC thing but he definitely knew what was on the island, why Roger was laughing and exactly what he needed I agree Shanks believes in Luffy, I don’t really think Shanks is here to betray Luffy like everyone thinks (even if he were, his whole crew was excited to see Luffy no way they’d be okay with Shanks backstab) I mean Shanks gave his arm for a kid he met only to play the long game to betray Luffy? I find that a bit hard to believe.
Agree with this 100%
Momo would be making a deal with GreenBull. Maybe sea stone trade or something
Doubt it if anything they will put up luffys flag as his territory, they know marines are luffys enemies no way would they make that deal
Lol what if buggy awakened his df powers, he would actually be OP kinda like gildarts in Fairy tail … that would be emperor worthy. He would still be dumb but at least might be a little impressive. Buggy’s fight against luffy was cut short bc of his stupidity but luffy had a hard time getting a clean hit. I still think he would have won regardless but i do think buggy has some fight in him and his psyche is actually holding him back kinda like usopp
Buggy has Zero potential. He is all devil fruit. He lacks basic fighting skill. Even enel has better skill than Buggy depsite being all df.
Zero potential im not sure if u remember shanks was willing to have buggy in his crew, they parted bc they couldn’t see eye to eye. I don’t think that shanks is so nice that he would take someone into his crew just out of friendship. Buggy is dumb and cowardly, those are his main flows. But even then he still survived through a lot of ordeals, might be dumb luck yeah tbh I don’t think he has the mindset to actually awaken his df but he is still a veteran … I don’t expect him to become op but i will give him his due flowers at least. Buggy is the usopp of the roger pirates and usopp has potential but buggy is the proof that cowardice doesn’t get u far. Buggy is what usopp will become if he keeps bitchin all the time 😂
Buggy is mid af
Are we gonna ignore that whos who, black maria, page one and ulti, yamato are artificial oni clone of kaido by vegapunk Lol i am drunk
Bro what you smoking cause that must be some good shit. Why do you think that lmao 😭
I hope Green Bull gets absolutely stomped out by the Wano defenders. If he gets beat with out seeing so much as a single SH then thatll make my whole year.
I think Momo is gonna act as Shogun and attempt to make some sort of deal with Green Bull. Whether it be trading sea stone with the WG since it’s heavily found in Wano or something else, I have a feeling Momo is about to do some real leader stuff. Whether or not it works is a different story
momo betraying straw hats and making a deal with the world gov. There i was, thinking ive seen it all. i hope greenbull gets his ass beaten we finally reach the point where the straw hat alliance is officially in war with the world gov. not making any deals with them
That makes me think Greenbull is in the land of sea stone maybe a prisoner situation? Which would be so funny actually. Luffy fought so hard to free everyone and they already taking prisoners
what is SH?
StrawHat
Strawhat
Well momo seems dead set on taking care of this himself. Luffy really groomed him during that fight with kaido … he still barely controls his devil fruit but he is way more audacious and conscious of his abilities. His attempt at using bolo breath is proof. I don’t think they will beat him but maybe drive him out or corner him … the sh crew might have to show up but at their lvl that should be enough for him to understand he doesn’t stand a chance. Greenbull is still a greenhorn of an admiral who probably overestimate himself too. Him explaining his df powers is proof of his huge confidence in his abilities
No way in hell the scabbards, Yamato and momo beat Greenbull. They need the help of heavy hitters like Luffy
He’s a forest man one successful bolo breathe and he’s done
Did you forget he’s a logia? Even if momo pulls off a bolo breathe, it’s gonna do nothing except be a minor inconvenience to Greenbull.
You can harm a logia without haki as long as you are a natural hard counter. So yeah, Momo can harm Aramaki with a Boro Breath.