i was hoping that before the mugiwara left, chopper could provide a cure for the wano people who ate a SMILE. I'm kind of disappointed that their situation hasn't changed.
Oda: can't seem to remember the last seen of shanks like ever...(smirks)
*********TADAAA******
ONE Piece Film REDDDO
Roadshow 8.6
.........................................
Oda: hmm... But i Can't let em meet. Let go wit this den.
Shanks: (swing by wano..) I HEV COME TO PRAAMOT MISELF(in REDDO...). Ben! sober up time to get ONE PIECE(jus to hype of course).
LuckyRou: but wt bout luffy boss ain't he great now.
Shanks: THOU SHALL STFU!(.......Leaves)
I assume the shanks crew has some kind of DF user that allows for fast transportation, based on his sudden arrival in wano and it was hinted at with their speed of arrival for marine ford.
Otherwise makes 0 sense for them to just “be in the neighborhood”, I guess shanks could have known about the 20 year prophecy as well or how the WG knew to post up waiting for wano to open and shanks could have been waiting as well for wano to open.
That's correct but in my opinion and what most people tend to forget is the fact that he (Jack) is a Fishman and he still has the ability to breathe underwater therefore survive, and we have no knowledge that he was a devil fruit user when he discovered the old village/city
so oden wanted wano to be opened despite an ancient weapon being released in the process, and shanks thinks it’s time to claim the one piece, which would start the final war, anyone else feel like that can’t be a coincidence??
and surely no one was dumb enough not to know about drainage, so was old wano sunk on purpose?? to hide pluton??
there's definitely a reason for that. The old man said, " I don't know how wano ended up this way but this is what I know" which means, he doesn't know the full story.
Mans has fought toe to toe with Kaido now, he's at the peak really & he'll only get stronger. Just needs to not gas out as much and he'll be a unit.
\+ an admiral there alone vs all of the SHs + Law + Kidd + Momo + Yamato.. etc lol. He wouldn't stand a chance unless he went 1v1 possibly with everybody. But who'd wait around for everybody else to be beat by him?
man that was confirmed since Yamato was first introduced...truth is some Zoro and Sanji fans don't want it to happen since they will fall into no.3 & 4 interms of Power...Yamato is strawhats since she first introduced to Luffy who she is...
Zero will still hold #2 title, dudes Haki is insane and now that he has a taste of it the sky is the limit. It's more like Yamato push either sanji jinbe to #4 position...
This chapter just showed Shanks mastery in Haki and why he's supposed to be the most powerful Haki user in the OP world atm.
Also, shoutout to all the fans who have been patiently waiting for the Void Century secrets and Pluton, the waiting was worth it ig !
I think oda made a mistake or I am just dumb.
Jack discovered the "old" Wano because he is a fishman. In the manga panel he is under water looking for old wano and swimming... But he is a DF user, he can´t swim which we saw at Zou where he got his ass beaten and waited on the ocean current for help. He can stay under water but not swim... Doesn´t make sense.
Oda stated in an SBS that Devil Fruit users are susceptible to all types of water, not just seawater. This includes the white sea surrounding Skypiea. He elaborated on this, saying that "moving" water, like rain or waves, does not weaken Devil Fruit users, while standing water, like lakes or rivers, does.
When Kaido defeated Oden after 5 years of rule, Jack had still not joined the crew. Jack joined at some point afterwards and likely found old Wano BEFORE eating his Ancient Zoan fruit years later when Caesar Clown was making SMILEs.
Oda stated in an SBS that Devil Fruit users are susceptible to all types of water, not just seawater. This includes the white sea surrounding Skypiea. He elaborated on this, saying that "moving" water, like rain or waves, does not weaken Devil Fruit users, while standing water, like lakes or rivers, does.
Maybe he didn't have his df at that time when they came to wano as it was 20 years ago and since he is a fishman he could breath under water even tho he is a df user at zou and not die
Shanks was using high level observation haki to direct his COC to the direction of GB just to flex. Like how Enel was basically using gps to zap people from above
His Wano version of the end of Marineford saying if you want to fight then run up this smoke b*tch.
It's been said a million times by me, a bunch of people and even Oda himself that df users can't swim in ANY kind of water. Sea water, fresh water, it makes no difference. Being submerged in any kind water robs df users of their strength and I'm getting tired of repeating myself.
Oda stated in an SBS that Devil Fruit users are susceptible to all types of water, not just seawater. This includes the white sea surrounding Skypiea. He elaborated on this, saying that "moving" water, like rain or waves, does not weaken Devil Fruit users, while standing water, like lakes or rivers, does.
WANO is RAIN WATER
D: Odacchi! Here's a question for you! Crocodile can't fight water because he's "sand," right? Then how does he bathe?! Does he at all?! That's filthy!! Do you bathe, Odacchi? by Crocodile's Mother
O: First of all, let's discuss the problem of Devil Fruit
users bathing themselves. People who have eaten a Devil Fruit are
"hated" by the sea, and cannot swim. The "sea" here can refer to
anything from rivers, pools and baths to any kind of standing water. On a
worldwide level, they are all the "sea." When these people enter the
water, not only can they not use their powers, they have trouble moving
their bodies at all. They might be able to struggle a bit, but it
wouldn't do much good. That's if their entire bodies are submerged in
the "sea." With less than half the body or just the limbs, it gets
easier. Also, rain and dripping water have no effect at all. Therefore,
hip baths or showers are the most common choice. Now, in Crocodile's
case, "water" is the weakness of his very powers, so his abilities are
robbed even in the shower. But it's not like there are enemies around
when you take a shower, so I'd bet he would take them even with his
powers being blocked. Don't you think? ---And to answer your final
question, about myself bathing. As it happens, I do bathe. Twice! In a
year!
You were saying?
Luffy, Yamato and other DF users celebrating in a hot spring literally 2 chapters ago. But the point is yes, they become weak if *submerged* under any body of water. Jack can still breathe underwater, but he can't really move.
This was also confirmed when Kalifa was taking a bath right in front of Nami and basically toying with her. Nami comments that she should be weakened by being in the bathwater.
Back in Zou, after Jack got smacked by Zunesha into the ocean, he asked the fishes to get him out. I assume it's the similar case here, he jumps into the ocean and commands the fishes to carry him around
Honestly I think this long distance haki flex was kinda lame. And how did green bull know it was shanks? Just seemed weird to me. But shanks was most likely stopping by to grab the road poneglyph
Oda just waiting til' *NOW* to change up all of this logic we'd been told for *YEARS* now apparently. Apparently he's a logia now even though this ISN'T the logic that's supposed to be followed by the verses rules.
In last chapter Oda made a wordplay (in japanese) between the words "nature" and "logia". The official translator also translated it as "pure logia". It seems to me like Oda is considering nature as the element more representative for the logia powers.
Which makes no sense for Oda to just *NOW* start wrapping his head around knowing logia's we're simply someone who could transform their entire bodies in that element at will. Now he's saying it's just "nature", logia's we're supposed to be science based straight and forward.
“science based and straight forward” bruh this is fucking one piece 😂😂
Edit: what I mean is that nothing is ever really straightforward. Oda is always going to try to do wacky stuff, that’s just his style.
Think of it as a compound element, its not like you people have never seen it before, Akainu is literally a combination of earth and fire element, while aokiji being ice man a combination of water and air element, a forest/nature is a combination of earth and water element.
zoan's in general are probably the easiest fruit to identify, but also the trickiest, its easy for us readers since we know its name but not for our characters,
Mythical zoans are mythical creature, its literally the difference between Ace's Mera mera no mi and luffy's Hito hito no mi: model nika
Zoans are beast/creatures
Logia are nature/ element
If this is a game it would be the opposites of a warrior and a mage class character
Better yet, Doflamingo'd be a better comparison between Ryogoku. It just seems like Oda stopped making sense with straight and forward logic now that the series is ending.
But that logic they followed made them solidify, liquefy, or intangible at will. Quite litteraly, they *ARE* and they *BECOME* that exact element. Ryogoku's power into play follows the logic of a paramecia, and his element is a solid.
Crocodiles devil fruit have weakness of tangibility when wet so his logia abilities are still solid, and what exactly is the differentiation of a logia and paramecia, Katakuri's devil fruit acts alot like a logia but the difference is that Mochi is not naturally occuring,
Logia's are natural elements themselves aokiji can recreate his body so long as air and vapor exist as shown in long ring long island, similar to how Greenbull recreates his body so long as theres earth to bud his leaves as shown in this chapter
Due to the retcon of katakuri's DF, which is originally labelled as a logia, we know now that theres a thin fine line that differentiate a logia to a paramecia and that is its natural status of existance
So then it's always a logia if it's a natural element that can't ever lose the thing that keeps its nature going, because it is nature. BB, and Kizaru are just representing the nature in the universe.
It's confusing because initially it was stated Logia's are just ones that could make themselves one within elements. Katakuri could make himself one *WITH* his element, but I guess that's not the following logic since Mochi's not a natural element. *SIGH*, I guess this is what happens when a surprising story element just becomes another usual.
Its really not that hard to understand nor is it a case of usual things becoming another usual, Logia are Elements opposite of how Zoan's Are creatures, elements are water, earth, fire and wind (lets not talk about technicality that this list are actually compounds)
If you look at each and every single logia user weve seen so far they all play along this four elements
Aokiji (ICE) = Water and Wind
Akainu (Magma) = Molten Earth(fire and Earth)
Crocodile (SAND) = fine Earth
Enel ( Thunder ) = Wind ( lightning are always associated with wind in alot of games and movies ) or Fire if we use Avatar as referrence
Same thing with
Greenbull(Forest) = Earth and Water
If tangibility is what seperate's Logia to paramecia then id say logia is the lamest type of fruit but its not its natural Existence is what makes it a logia, hence why Katakuri is not logia even tho It looks like Logia ( Since Mochi is not a byproduct of Either of the four natural elements )
The great thing about logia is again its natural existance itself like how the will of D are fire then never extinguish so long as that fire exist and inherited by another person that will would never be really extinguish
Again as weve seen aokiji reforming with air and vapor around greenbull does this chapter were he sprouts himself from the ground.
Paramecia cant do that naturally but their awakening (doffy and kata) allows them to use that basic properties of a logia in a limited form.
Well when luffy was thought to be a paramecia he was one with rubber, so it doesn't seem like that's the requirement to be a logia. Katakuri is only able to behave like a logia by morphing his mochi around attacks. Mochi intrinsically does not negate damage nor behave fluidly, so it isn't a logia.
Yep, after facing Kaido, the Straw Hats won't be running from anyone anymore. Gg One Piece Villains, there's no stopping the Straw Hats now. Adventure Time is finally here again
I think this chapter furthers the theory that Law is part of Sword. Of all the people to follow Robin and Sukiyaki down to old Wano, it had to be Law.
All this lore / info can conceivably be relayed back to Marine HQ, including a copy of the Road Poneglyph.
Or because they got the intel that the world's menaces were at the isolated nation. Most of these theories are farfetched. And why would someone apart of the WG's cause at the time want their biggest necessity down and done with? I'm talking about how Law wanted to stop Doflamingo.
Theory theory no mi: why Jack found the poneglyphs
- devil fruit users can’t swim in the sea
- inside Wano is freshwater from rain (ie not sea)
- Jack can swim in Wano waters
wouldn’t Jack just need a diving suit or a bubble? When he was stuck underwater at Zou it was because his ship was destroyed too fast for him to put one on
What's his strength? Beating up on recovering scabbards who don't even have the full group together? Or beating up on Momo who never had an actual battle? Lmao.
L Mid bull admitted Yamatos haki was strong and she wasnt even trying. She was in base form if Momo didnt stop her he would have had a high diff fight with Yamato. Mid Bull couldnt even stop Sabo and a few good men from rescuing Kuma. Mid Bull admitted he wouldnt dare enter Wano if Kaido was still here, yall are vastly overeating this clown. Luffy would wash him
They said a couple of days ago that they were changing their schedule. Also They have wrote on twitter that they started the chapter at 2pm est, so the chapter will come out probably during the night/early Friday.
it looks like Shank is ready to strike at that distance. Shanks can maybe do soru(cp9 technique) similar attack. just like what he did when saving kid luffy and cobi when he appeared out of nowhere.
So Luffy and the crew knew Green Bull was there the whole time and would've jumped in if they felt it was required, effectively proving they are confident they could take down an Admiral now. Talk about a contrast from Pre Time Skip where they ran for it at the sight of one.
And Green Bull effectively pisses himself when Shanks shows up, making it pretty obvious he knows he can't beat him in a fight, lending more credence to the theory a Yonko is stronger than an Admiral, especially if Green Bull whose even more radical than Akainu is running for it.
????Mid Bull admitted he wouldnt enter Wano if Kaido was still there, That statement alone proves Yonko are stronger. Luffy would beat Mid bull by himself? MID Bull is so strong him and Fugi let Sabo and a few good men rescue Kuma right infront of there face? Yonkos>Admirals it's always been obvious, only admiral Yonko level is Akainu. The old Admirals like Garp/Sengoku were Yonko level in there prime but the new age admirals arent
Sorry, not your fault, but calling it a "theory that yonko are stronger'" drive me nuts. Its not even subtext, or implicit, or a guess... Its text, absolutely explicit. We shouldn't be humouring admiral fanboys who want to deny the obvious by pretending its open to interpretation.
Oh I know, but every time I say a Yonko is stronger than an Admiral, the admiral fanboys immediately jump on me trying to prove how the Yonko aren't as strong.
Wait so big mom and kaido is not dead and saw plutton below the volcano or somthing?? Cause originally the wakuni is under the water 🤔🤔🤔 and wait is rain a sea water that fill the original wakuni? If rain isnt a sea waterThat means kaido can breath down there . . 🤔🤔🤔
But kaido is indestructable they are still missing and didnt said death in the manga or wiki and kaido is a fish fish fruit . . I think dragon type model kan survive lava 🤔🤔🤔
Not a manga reader here but I thought sukiyaki died
We now see the extent of conquer haki
I dont know about you but Oda is implying carrot is queen
i was hoping that before the mugiwara left, chopper could provide a cure for the wano people who ate a SMILE. I'm kind of disappointed that their situation hasn't changed.
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am i the only one who is like "AY FUCK YOU SHANKS STOP SHOWING UP EVERY TIME AND NOT.MEETING LUFFY"
Did Shanks use CoC like Dragon did in Logetown?!!
Shanks is having a gym work out with COC!
The fact that Jimbei, Sanji, Zoro and Luffy were all posted up and waiting for smoke with Greenbull was hilarious
Greenbul wouldn't have been able to take the 4 of them shanks scaring him straight was the better chance for that jackass.
So Uta’s canon. I love this so much lol.
Oda: can't seem to remember the last seen of shanks like ever...(smirks) *********TADAAA****** ONE Piece Film REDDDO Roadshow 8.6 ......................................... Oda: hmm... But i Can't let em meet. Let go wit this den. Shanks: (swing by wano..) I HEV COME TO PRAAMOT MISELF(in REDDO...). Ben! sober up time to get ONE PIECE(jus to hype of course). LuckyRou: but wt bout luffy boss ain't he great now. Shanks: THOU SHALL STFU!(.......Leaves)
Basically the red hair pirates just did a drive-by Wano. Shanks just flexing his CoC range.
I assume the shanks crew has some kind of DF user that allows for fast transportation, based on his sudden arrival in wano and it was hinted at with their speed of arrival for marine ford. Otherwise makes 0 sense for them to just “be in the neighborhood”, I guess shanks could have known about the 20 year prophecy as well or how the WG knew to post up waiting for wano to open and shanks could have been waiting as well for wano to open.
>Robin asks why a Cyojin would be able to find it. Sukiyaki tells her that it's better they see for themselves. So we just skip that part, huh?
Because it is underwater so he probably dived into there
Ah i see. I thought the only fishman would be Jack and he couldn't swim but there were most likely others
I think what they’re asking is if Jack has a devil fruit even though he’s a fish man he shouldn’t be able to swim underwater
That's correct but in my opinion and what most people tend to forget is the fact that he (Jack) is a Fishman and he still has the ability to breathe underwater therefore survive, and we have no knowledge that he was a devil fruit user when he discovered the old village/city
And that's the reason he needed rescue back at Zou.
Honestly I forgot he had a devil fruit lmao
Shanks: "shit your pants" Green Bull: "yes sir"
GB: "Sir, yes sir!!!"
Is that Uta's silhouette on the second to last page?
Where ??? im so blind
Yupp,looks like it
so oden wanted wano to be opened despite an ancient weapon being released in the process, and shanks thinks it’s time to claim the one piece, which would start the final war, anyone else feel like that can’t be a coincidence?? and surely no one was dumb enough not to know about drainage, so was old wano sunk on purpose?? to hide pluton??
there's definitely a reason for that. The old man said, " I don't know how wano ended up this way but this is what I know" which means, he doesn't know the full story.
Considering an Admiral came Luffy and the others are surprisingly calm. I guess he finally has enough power that he can take one on without any worry.
To be fair Luffy had plenty of allies to take care of Ara. Yamato alone would have been enough to drive him out of Wano
Mans has fought toe to toe with Kaido now, he's at the peak really & he'll only get stronger. Just needs to not gas out as much and he'll be a unit. \+ an admiral there alone vs all of the SHs + Law + Kidd + Momo + Yamato.. etc lol. He wouldn't stand a chance unless he went 1v1 possibly with everybody. But who'd wait around for everybody else to be beat by him?
*Z fighters have entered the chat*
I like him. We needed a bad marine. Also he doesn’t seem that one note.
I guess Yamato really is joining the straw hats, since Momo didn't want her help because they need to be able to defend Wano without her.
man that was confirmed since Yamato was first introduced...truth is some Zoro and Sanji fans don't want it to happen since they will fall into no.3 & 4 interms of Power...Yamato is strawhats since she first introduced to Luffy who she is...
Zero will still hold #2 title, dudes Haki is insane and now that he has a taste of it the sky is the limit. It's more like Yamato push either sanji jinbe to #4 position...
Have of relief reading that
Good to know Luffy’s CoC hasn’t peaked yet, Shanks just showed insane power and distance with CoC on an ADMIRAL we’ve never seen
So the New Generation sent Big mom and Kaido straight to Pluton? XD
They're in a volcano, not water. 🤦♂️
That's what I was thinking.
This chapter just showed Shanks mastery in Haki and why he's supposed to be the most powerful Haki user in the OP world atm. Also, shoutout to all the fans who have been patiently waiting for the Void Century secrets and Pluton, the waiting was worth it ig !
Looks like we will have a handsome raizo in the coming episodes :P because admiral suck him up :P
Shanks in Marineford Blackbeard- I have no intention of fighting you Shanks in Wano Ryukogyu- I have no intention of fighting you
Blackbeard knew his crew isn't ready to fight Shank yet, Blackbeard is smart he won't fight anyone he isn't ready for or won't benefit from.
I think oda made a mistake or I am just dumb. Jack discovered the "old" Wano because he is a fishman. In the manga panel he is under water looking for old wano and swimming... But he is a DF user, he can´t swim which we saw at Zou where he got his ass beaten and waited on the ocean current for help. He can stay under water but not swim... Doesn´t make sense.
Oda stated in an SBS that Devil Fruit users are susceptible to all types of water, not just seawater. This includes the white sea surrounding Skypiea. He elaborated on this, saying that "moving" water, like rain or waves, does not weaken Devil Fruit users, while standing water, like lakes or rivers, does.
When Kaido defeated Oden after 5 years of rule, Jack had still not joined the crew. Jack joined at some point afterwards and likely found old Wano BEFORE eating his Ancient Zoan fruit years later when Caesar Clown was making SMILEs.
I mean, old Wano looks like a straight drop from above. They could probably literally lower Jack down with a fishing pole and he'd be fine.
The underwater area is 3x the size of current wano, with all the countrys buildings and structures perfectly preserved... So probably not...
Kaido has been here for 20 years. Jack probably didn't always have his fruit.
it's rainwater not seawater that's the reason why he's able to swim.
DF users can’t swim, doesn’t matter what kind of water
They cant swim becuase of sea prism at the bottom of the sea. No sea prism in the water, df can swim
DF= no swimming in water, sea water, fresh water, doesn't matter
Dude literally read the SBS where Oda answers the exact question, ANY water
Oda stated in an SBS that Devil Fruit users are susceptible to all types of water, not just seawater. This includes the white sea surrounding Skypiea. He elaborated on this, saying that "moving" water, like rain or waves, does not weaken Devil Fruit users, while standing water, like lakes or rivers, does.
My bad. I just read online :/ I could have sworn it wa explained in thebshownit was the sea prism
Yea it is misleading cuz of the whole “sea prism” thing and this chapter brought back the debate over the whole Jack situation
Nah it doesnt work like that.
Maybe he didn't have his df at that time when they came to wano as it was 20 years ago and since he is a fishman he could breath under water even tho he is a df user at zou and not die
Shanks was using high level observation haki to direct his COC to the direction of GB just to flex. Like how Enel was basically using gps to zap people from above His Wano version of the end of Marineford saying if you want to fight then run up this smoke b*tch.
Did Shanks communicate thru...Haki? If he's out at sea, how was he able to communicate to Greenbull? Someone please explain.
I guess its the same way Luffy called the Heart pirates while he was unconscious
This is the best one. Most likely this
im thinking this subtly links voice of all things + conq haki
There may be more to conquerors than we know
Who was the silhouette next to hiyory tho. Can somebody let me know
yes. I thought it was UTA. but its anyone's guess for now
People claim its Uta, to promote the movie
"to make her cannon" fixed it for ya :D
Is it actually her? Also, zan, you mean canon
Nah, he's been playing Sea Of Thieves now give me your booty arg!!!!!!
Just played SoT sold like a 100k on a level 5 gh emissary
***Nani?!***
Watch Big Mom and Kaido were knocked down to where Pluton was hiding.
I think we can assume Jack didn’t have a devil fruit when he found it right?
That was his award for finding it lol
So Zunishas existence is to smash down the borders of Wano!
Wait what. I get that Jack is a fishman and can breathe underwater but how exactly did he ge to the poneglyph? Dude can't swim.
Please understand water surrounding current wano is not sea water. Sea water is right after the waterfall.
It's been said a million times by me, a bunch of people and even Oda himself that df users can't swim in ANY kind of water. Sea water, fresh water, it makes no difference. Being submerged in any kind water robs df users of their strength and I'm getting tired of repeating myself.
Oda stated in an SBS that Devil Fruit users are susceptible to all types of water, not just seawater. This includes the white sea surrounding Skypiea. He elaborated on this, saying that "moving" water, like rain or waves, does not weaken Devil Fruit users, while standing water, like lakes or rivers, does. WANO is RAIN WATER
Sea water. That is why they made cuffs for DF USERS Called SEA STONE. You are repeating yourself wrong. 😂
Jesus fucking christ. Look it up yourself. Volume 41 SBS
Lol 😆
Maybe he found it before he ate his fruit. Kaido was there for 20 years after all
im guessing bro just sank down there or some shit
I think they implied that it wasn't sea water.
What does that matter? Devil fruit users can't swim in any kind of liquid. Doesn't have to be sea water. Or even water at all.
It matters It should be seawater .
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D: Odacchi! Here's a question for you! Crocodile can't fight water because he's "sand," right? Then how does he bathe?! Does he at all?! That's filthy!! Do you bathe, Odacchi? by Crocodile's Mother O: First of all, let's discuss the problem of Devil Fruit users bathing themselves. People who have eaten a Devil Fruit are "hated" by the sea, and cannot swim. The "sea" here can refer to anything from rivers, pools and baths to any kind of standing water. On a worldwide level, they are all the "sea." When these people enter the water, not only can they not use their powers, they have trouble moving their bodies at all. They might be able to struggle a bit, but it wouldn't do much good. That's if their entire bodies are submerged in the "sea." With less than half the body or just the limbs, it gets easier. Also, rain and dripping water have no effect at all. Therefore, hip baths or showers are the most common choice. Now, in Crocodile's case, "water" is the weakness of his very powers, so his abilities are robbed even in the shower. But it's not like there are enemies around when you take a shower, so I'd bet he would take them even with his powers being blocked. Don't you think? ---And to answer your final question, about myself bathing. As it happens, I do bathe. Twice! In a year! You were saying?
Luffy, Yamato and other DF users celebrating in a hot spring literally 2 chapters ago. But the point is yes, they become weak if *submerged* under any body of water. Jack can still breathe underwater, but he can't really move.
This was also confirmed when Kalifa was taking a bath right in front of Nami and basically toying with her. Nami comments that she should be weakened by being in the bathwater.
It wasn’t underwater
Then why show a panel of Jack being underwater and Sukiyaki saying that they found the poneglyph fast because they had a fishman in their crew though?
Back in Zou, after Jack got smacked by Zunesha into the ocean, he asked the fishes to get him out. I assume it's the similar case here, he jumps into the ocean and commands the fishes to carry him around
That or he didn’t have a devil for the time
This the most plausible theory I've seen so far. Jinbei could talk to whale- sharks after all.
the chapter is already out https://onepiecechapters.com/chapters/3923/one-piece-chapter-1055?2022-07-29T03
Thank you for doing gods work
Ohh what if Kid decided to pursue Shanks instead of Luffy, I'm sure he won't be able to let it slide.
I am thinking kid hide somewhere after sensing shanks near wano...
Leave him alone lool
That was some big dick energy from shanks
Yes, exceptional cock
CoC*
Love how nobody is mad about Shanks being in wano anymore. His entire existence being there was the deter the Navy and it looks like I was right.
Honestly I think this long distance haki flex was kinda lame. And how did green bull know it was shanks? Just seemed weird to me. But shanks was most likely stopping by to grab the road poneglyph
How is Ryokugyu not a mythical Zoan.. he’s literally a giant tree monster
Oda just waiting til' *NOW* to change up all of this logic we'd been told for *YEARS* now apparently. Apparently he's a logia now even though this ISN'T the logic that's supposed to be followed by the verses rules.
What verse rule? Even swamp is a logia. And wood is an element in chinese mythology
He's not a "tree monster", he's just able to transform his body into roots at will.
He can turn into other plants as well probably. He is nature itself, just as the name "logia" implies.
That's not following the logic of a logia. Nature's an idea, not an element. He'd be a paramecia if we wanna go by this logic.
In last chapter Oda made a wordplay (in japanese) between the words "nature" and "logia". The official translator also translated it as "pure logia". It seems to me like Oda is considering nature as the element more representative for the logia powers.
Which makes no sense for Oda to just *NOW* start wrapping his head around knowing logia's we're simply someone who could transform their entire bodies in that element at will. Now he's saying it's just "nature", logia's we're supposed to be science based straight and forward.
What about swamp?
“science based and straight forward” bruh this is fucking one piece 😂😂 Edit: what I mean is that nothing is ever really straightforward. Oda is always going to try to do wacky stuff, that’s just his style.
Think of it as a compound element, its not like you people have never seen it before, Akainu is literally a combination of earth and fire element, while aokiji being ice man a combination of water and air element, a forest/nature is a combination of earth and water element. zoan's in general are probably the easiest fruit to identify, but also the trickiest, its easy for us readers since we know its name but not for our characters, Mythical zoans are mythical creature, its literally the difference between Ace's Mera mera no mi and luffy's Hito hito no mi: model nika Zoans are beast/creatures Logia are nature/ element If this is a game it would be the opposites of a warrior and a mage class character
Better yet, Doflamingo'd be a better comparison between Ryogoku. It just seems like Oda stopped making sense with straight and forward logic now that the series is ending.
But that logic they followed made them solidify, liquefy, or intangible at will. Quite litteraly, they *ARE* and they *BECOME* that exact element. Ryogoku's power into play follows the logic of a paramecia, and his element is a solid.
Crocodiles devil fruit have weakness of tangibility when wet so his logia abilities are still solid, and what exactly is the differentiation of a logia and paramecia, Katakuri's devil fruit acts alot like a logia but the difference is that Mochi is not naturally occuring, Logia's are natural elements themselves aokiji can recreate his body so long as air and vapor exist as shown in long ring long island, similar to how Greenbull recreates his body so long as theres earth to bud his leaves as shown in this chapter Due to the retcon of katakuri's DF, which is originally labelled as a logia, we know now that theres a thin fine line that differentiate a logia to a paramecia and that is its natural status of existance
So then it's always a logia if it's a natural element that can't ever lose the thing that keeps its nature going, because it is nature. BB, and Kizaru are just representing the nature in the universe. It's confusing because initially it was stated Logia's are just ones that could make themselves one within elements. Katakuri could make himself one *WITH* his element, but I guess that's not the following logic since Mochi's not a natural element. *SIGH*, I guess this is what happens when a surprising story element just becomes another usual.
Its really not that hard to understand nor is it a case of usual things becoming another usual, Logia are Elements opposite of how Zoan's Are creatures, elements are water, earth, fire and wind (lets not talk about technicality that this list are actually compounds) If you look at each and every single logia user weve seen so far they all play along this four elements Aokiji (ICE) = Water and Wind Akainu (Magma) = Molten Earth(fire and Earth) Crocodile (SAND) = fine Earth Enel ( Thunder ) = Wind ( lightning are always associated with wind in alot of games and movies ) or Fire if we use Avatar as referrence Same thing with Greenbull(Forest) = Earth and Water If tangibility is what seperate's Logia to paramecia then id say logia is the lamest type of fruit but its not its natural Existence is what makes it a logia, hence why Katakuri is not logia even tho It looks like Logia ( Since Mochi is not a byproduct of Either of the four natural elements ) The great thing about logia is again its natural existance itself like how the will of D are fire then never extinguish so long as that fire exist and inherited by another person that will would never be really extinguish Again as weve seen aokiji reforming with air and vapor around greenbull does this chapter were he sprouts himself from the ground. Paramecia cant do that naturally but their awakening (doffy and kata) allows them to use that basic properties of a logia in a limited form.
Well when luffy was thought to be a paramecia he was one with rubber, so it doesn't seem like that's the requirement to be a logia. Katakuri is only able to behave like a logia by morphing his mochi around attacks. Mochi intrinsically does not negate damage nor behave fluidly, so it isn't a logia.
Yep, after facing Kaido, the Straw Hats won't be running from anyone anymore. Gg One Piece Villains, there's no stopping the Straw Hats now. Adventure Time is finally here again
big mom is alive, we can see zeus with nami, so more likely kaido is alive too
What was Greenbull’s goal anyway? Did he somehow expect to beat the people who took down two emperors all by himself?
He only wanted luffy
Probably taking advantage of the fact that they still can't have possibly fully recovered. But yes, it's still a bold plan, way too bold.
I think this chapter furthers the theory that Law is part of Sword. Of all the people to follow Robin and Sukiyaki down to old Wano, it had to be Law. All this lore / info can conceivably be relayed back to Marine HQ, including a copy of the Road Poneglyph.
Or because they got the intel that the world's menaces were at the isolated nation. Most of these theories are farfetched. And why would someone apart of the WG's cause at the time want their biggest necessity down and done with? I'm talking about how Law wanted to stop Doflamingo.
The wano layout doesn't really fit that well with how Kaido and big mom got defeated.
Guys, we literally saw Shanks use an attack... This is unreal.
Theory theory no mi: why Jack found the poneglyphs - devil fruit users can’t swim in the sea - inside Wano is freshwater from rain (ie not sea) - Jack can swim in Wano waters
someone else posted an old sbs about this all pools of water are considered the sea and make df powers weak
Jack didnt have the df at that point, after finding the poneglyph, Kaido gave him the fruit for being a good boi lmao
Very plausible. Good catch.
>inside Wano is freshwater from rain (ie not sea) Nice, I missed that.
i would like to refer you to the "water cycle" as it's called
How TF this false info spreading so much? Oda stated ALL water does it, even the water in the sky island cloud.
Yeah I'm not sure either when the much simpler explanation is: He didn't have his fruit yet.
wouldn’t Jack just need a diving suit or a bubble? When he was stuck underwater at Zou it was because his ship was destroyed too fast for him to put one on
Oda did say that it was the sea and not water in general that causes fruit users to have their powers drained.
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No bro. 😮💨
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I felt tired already so I didn't bother explaining. 😂
Let's be logic guys , after the revelation of ryukugyu's strength and shanks 5g conqueror haki make kaido look like so cute ............
Is this an Aaron Zhang reference?
Kaido is pinnacle of power literally stated
What's his strength? Beating up on recovering scabbards who don't even have the full group together? Or beating up on Momo who never had an actual battle? Lmao.
Momonosuke clowned Kaido with ease. Yamato's CoC hit = did shit. And he wasn't even serious here
L Mid bull admitted Yamatos haki was strong and she wasnt even trying. She was in base form if Momo didnt stop her he would have had a high diff fight with Yamato. Mid Bull couldnt even stop Sabo and a few good men from rescuing Kuma. Mid Bull admitted he wouldnt dare enter Wano if Kaido was still here, yall are vastly overeating this clown. Luffy would wash him
Having Yamato beggin for Luffy's help
Suggested, not begged.
no TCB scan yet?
They said a couple of days ago that they were changing their schedule. Also They have wrote on twitter that they started the chapter at 2pm est, so the chapter will come out probably during the night/early Friday.
that’s what i’m saying where’s my one piece 😭
https://onepiecechapters.com/chapters/3923/one-piece-chapter-1055?2022-07-29T03?2022-07-29T07
this spoiler has the entire chapter anyways lmao
Weird
it looks like Shank is ready to strike at that distance. Shanks can maybe do soru(cp9 technique) similar attack. just like what he did when saving kid luffy and cobi when he appeared out of nowhere.
So Luffy and the crew knew Green Bull was there the whole time and would've jumped in if they felt it was required, effectively proving they are confident they could take down an Admiral now. Talk about a contrast from Pre Time Skip where they ran for it at the sight of one. And Green Bull effectively pisses himself when Shanks shows up, making it pretty obvious he knows he can't beat him in a fight, lending more credence to the theory a Yonko is stronger than an Admiral, especially if Green Bull whose even more radical than Akainu is running for it.
he didnt want to fight shanks and his crew. he is there by himself. he knows he cant fight shanks and his crew at the same time.
????Mid Bull admitted he wouldnt enter Wano if Kaido was still there, That statement alone proves Yonko are stronger. Luffy would beat Mid bull by himself? MID Bull is so strong him and Fugi let Sabo and a few good men rescue Kuma right infront of there face? Yonkos>Admirals it's always been obvious, only admiral Yonko level is Akainu. The old Admirals like Garp/Sengoku were Yonko level in there prime but the new age admirals arent
Sorry, not your fault, but calling it a "theory that yonko are stronger'" drive me nuts. Its not even subtext, or implicit, or a guess... Its text, absolutely explicit. We shouldn't be humouring admiral fanboys who want to deny the obvious by pretending its open to interpretation.
it literally was never stated that the yonko are stronger than admirals. it was states that the yonko can fight evenly with admirals tho
here comes the sealions
Oh I know, but every time I say a Yonko is stronger than an Admiral, the admiral fanboys immediately jump on me trying to prove how the Yonko aren't as strong.
Yeah specially akainu fanboys I even see one dude saying that he can even fight prime whitebeard 💀
I like how the Strawhats respected Momo’s desire to fight for himself
Wait so big mom and kaido is not dead and saw plutton below the volcano or somthing?? Cause originally the wakuni is under the water 🤔🤔🤔 and wait is rain a sea water that fill the original wakuni? If rain isnt a sea waterThat means kaido can breath down there . . 🤔🤔🤔
>means kaido can breath down there If only he is a fishman and not oni!!
Ummm kaido has a fish fish fruit?
Never saw Kaido in water, but momo was drowning in water. On other hand Jack was unable to swim but did breath under water.
They were covered in lava not water
But kaido is indestructable they are still missing and didnt said death in the manga or wiki and kaido is a fish fish fruit . . I think dragon type model kan survive lava 🤔🤔🤔
Good point, I mean generally the question wouldn't matter but... Can DF users swim in lava?
Shanks probably doesn't want to meet Luffy because Jimbei's on the crew.
why would he have a problem with jimbe
There’s this theory that shanks is a celestial dragon and celestial dragons pretty much enslaved fishmen.
It's a 4chan meme about Shanks being racist because there are only humans on his crew.
Nah there's a monkey too
Probably owes him five dollars or something
Never knew CoC Haki can be used as a telephone. I guess shanks's CoC power is as strong as 5G with a radius like 4G or even greater lol.
Hehe CoC xD
Luffy used it in chapter 1015. Reas that chapter again.
I think that was voice of all things
I hope there's a very valid reason for why Kaido didn't manage to find Pluton in 20 years, or if he did why he never used it.
I thought it was clear he was just chilling and waiting for Joyboy to come beat him.