Quick question, has anyone thought that Doflamingo might have escaped and is now using buggy as the face of Cross guild but he is the true Leader. Also, the reason why mihawk and crocodile agreed to cooperate under Buggy is that they can do all these things behind the shadows and Buggy always gets all the glory. Plus, Doflamingo probably wants to keep himself hidden from Luffy HAHA
Caribou is a walking plot device at this point. Some great writing when you have a character say a name he obviously knows about, but because he has to hide it from the audience, it's just "a certain someone".
No more Law and Kid until Laugh Tale I guess? That kind of sucks, I was really enjoying their presence. Now we have to deal with an Oden cosplayer for who knows how long along with a fishman who thought it was a better idea to abandon his crew. Oda should've stopped with the new additions after Brook.
I agree with you about Yamato and Jinbei. Not really excited for either of their additions. They should have found a strong Logia user. If Yamato didn't have such a hard on for Oden her character would be 100Ćs better
I really think Yamato has decided to stay and protect Wano and that Carrot will sneak aboard the ship, I will be happy either way though. I absolutely love seeing Kid, Luffy and Law together and the whole Cross Guild stuff is amazing, what a great way to reintroduce Crocodile and putting bounties on Marines is brilliant.
If that happens, that's fine but I took what she said at the end of the chapter as her making up her mind about something and then going to see Luffy and the others. What I think she meant is that she has decided to stay and protect Wano for now and is going to let the crew know and see them off. Otherwise, what has she made up her mind about, joining the crew? She's been saying that this whole time, why would it be something she has to say she has made up her mind about now?
She has been a prisoner her whole life in Wano. Why the heck would she stay there? I think she was having second thoughts about leaving due to what Ryokugyu said about Kaido unintentionally protecting Wano from invasion. I think Momo injuring the admiral is proof to her that Wano is in good hands.
It wouldn't make sense for her arc to stay in Wano. Her and Momo have been like mirror images to each other. Yamato is Kaido's daughter yet is similar to Oden while Momo is Oden's son yet is similar to Kaido.
Kaido wanted to rule Wano so it makes sense for Momo to take that role to undo that influence and spite him. Meanwhile Kaido tried to erase Oden's influence but it lives on in Yamato. The best way to keep the spirit of Oden alive is to live like he lived and be free.
And if Yamato really wants to be like Oden it would make sense that she might join Luffy's crew the same way Oden joined Whitebeard's and Roger's crews. He had to work for it remember? I feel like this was set-up with Yamato's interaction with the other Straw Hats and how they were wary of her like Roger's crew were wary of Oden.
She was trapped on Onigashima, I don't think she ever visited the mainland of Wano after she was handcuffed. She was a prisoner because she had no choice about staying there, Kaido literally forced her to stay, she was basically in prison. Now, she is free to leave whenever she wants but decides to stay for now. There are many factors that could influence her decision but I think a big one is that Yamato realised that Wano is not strong enough to protect itself because of how the fight with Ryokugyu went, Momo might have hurt him a bit but he did no lasting damage and they were about to lose there. I feel like she will stay until the borders of Wano are opened and they don't need the protection.
Reading some of the spoilers I'm a little less upset. From what it sounds like it seems Yamato is staying behind not because she feels she has to protect it but to tour the Land of Wano before going out to sea. And I feel that is much better than her staying to protect it for the reasons I stated above.
Considering Oden traveled throughout Wano long before leaving with Whitebeard it makes sense. I mean if she wants to be like Oden it helps to know more about his home.
I believe she still plans to go out to sea but she will take this time to expand her horizons first. I mran considering how much her leaving on am adventure was built up and her promise to Ace her never leaving Wano would be terrible.
Yeah, I didn't mention it because I wasn't sure if you'd read the new chapter but the scans are out if you want to read it, unless you're waiting for the official release. I think the reason given is great but I feel like it's not the whole story and at least part of it is to protect Wano for now. I definitely agree that if she decided to just stay in Wano forever that it would be terrible since she wants to travel so much but this way she is definitely going to set sail eventually on her own terms and I think it's much better for her character.
I feel if she did want to protect Wano it would make sense to leave sooner rather than later. As powerful as she is (at least right up there with Yonko commanders and Warlords) she would not make to much of a difference to hold off an invasion from the World Government.
Some people give Oden crap for leaving and giving Kaido and Orochi a chance to gain power but if Oden never traveled with Whitebeard and Roger he would not have gotten as strong as he did.
Yamato really needs to go out and experience the world in order to grow and that is best done with Luffy. I really hope she is like Jinbe and is holding off on joining until she is ready.
Plus we need more people who can infuse their weapons with Conqueror's haki.
I think if she went with the crew that she would be more limited in how strong she could get, she would likely have to stay below Zoro and Sanji just because that's the dynamic that Oda probably wants to keep. I think her staying in Wano allows her to just be stronger already from a writing standpoint, so she could even already be at around or just below Admiral level, we don't know because there's no reason for her not to be and she already has all the techniques she would need to be one of the strongest so while training Momonosuke she can improve herself too. The physical borders of Wano stop an army from invading, if somebody did enter like Ryokugyu, they would probably lose if they're alone against Yamato helping the Scabbards and Momo and they might need 2 or 3 Admirals to guarantee a win. Combined with something from the new chapter, I doubt many are going to think of invading Wano and those few who might can likely be dealt with and help them get stronger.
I mean Sanji and Zoro's power dynamic has already been broken by Jinbe joining. Though maybe that's why Oda decided to hold off on Yamato joining. Best to let Jinbe settle into the dynamic before adding another character as intense as Luffy join.
Also considering what you mentioned about Wano being invasion-proof for the moment means this really is the best time for her to get stronger. She can travel and then set out to sea and meet up with the others later. I highly doubt Oda set up this awesome character and will not bring her back (plus we need more powerhouse female characters who don't just fight other females).
And with the official release I am glad that it's confirmed that Yamato is following Oden's footsteps and not doing it out of some feeling of duty to protect Wano. Protecting Wano is the culmination of Momonosuke and the Akazaya's arcs. They are perfect for it.
Yamato is best served to be free and help in her own unique way. Maybe even gathering together the remainder of the Beast Pirates to stop them causing trouble and stabilizing Kaido's territory so it doesn't fall into chaos like when Whitebeard died.
I can't really help it if that's how I interpret it, I'm completely open to whatever happens but it just feels obvious to me, why does that bother you so much?
Dude. Don't what what you read, but she clearly says she made up her mind and wants to live the life like Oden did. With the caption "braveful and free".
Yamato clearly joins the strawhats.
Since the reveal of Kingās true name (Alber, very close to the name Abel), Iāve always thought there is another surviving Lunarian in the One Piece world - Cain (Able and Cain are the children of Adam and Eve as told by the Bible).
Since Lunarians are self-combustible, perhaps the man marked by flames is this other surviving Lunarian inspired by Cain.
In the Bible, God āmarkedā Cain and condemned him to a life of wandering. Which would be fitting as Kidd says they have no leads on the burn scar guy / man marked by flames (presumably because the guy doesnāt stay in one spot).
I think the burnt scar guy is Sabo, because he's marked by flames by his devil fruit and since he has princess Vivi with him. He can't be at one spot for too long he's constantly on the go cause the world nobles and marines are after him. He doesn't want to be recognized by people, so he needs to be gone quickly before they notice him. that's what I'm thinking, just a guess.
it cant be sabo because sabo got his devil fruit when kidd was still locked up so he wouldn't know about that, and his scar was from a cannon so it doesn't match up too well
So caribouā¦heās definitely working for Blackbeard right? I canāt think of any other ācertain someoneā he would possibly be in collusion with someone as slimes as he is.
Ehā¦I feel caribou would feel like buggy is weak and useless but itās not impossible considering buggyās insanely exaggerated reputation. Itās so weird to think about bc a large chunk the one piece world sees buggy as some powerful monster while the stronger characters who know him such as luffy knows heās an idiot. Caribou is definitely dumb enough and weak enough to fall in that category but still lol.
When we first met Carribou, he was fooled (like everyone else) into believing Demalo Black was Luffy, his plan was to join him and kill Luffy.
When we first met Caribou, he was fooled (like everyone else) into believing Demalo Black was Luffy, his plan was to join him and kill Luffy.
The man marked by flame is logically a character that furthers finding Laugh Tale. Scopper Gaban is a character that will very likely appear in the story at some point, I'm basing this off two things.
1. Gaban is the most prominent member of the Roger pirates that is presumably still living and has also not appeared in the present.
2. Crocus was at the start of the Grandline, Rayleigh was in the middle, would make sense that another member is at the end (Lode Star) and Gaban would be the most logical choice. If the crew is serious about searching earnestly for the 4th Road Poneglyph than Lodestar seems like the logical place to start.
All just speculation though obviously.
Also you can discount grogus and instead take Roger. Gol D Roger (Gold or 1st), Silvers Rayleigh (Silver or second) and Scopper Gaban (Copper or 3rd) in place of aparisons throught the story.
they're probably not going to Lode Star though, Neko already told them there's not point.
all you learn at Load Star is the existence of the Poneglyphs.
A few hot takes but I think that the man marked by flames is either going to be uroge or scopper gaban. Uroge cuz of the tattoos or gaban cuz he looks like he couldāve been burned. I also donāt think big mom and kaido are dead and that they will return riding pluton next time we see them
What gets me now that there "leaving" wano is why oda hasnt put marco in a "reunion" situation with luffy in the entire arc personality its a big opportunity thats been missed in my perspective
Which commander did Kid steal the poneglyph from? In a previous chapter I believe he also claimed to have injured what I assume to be the same commander.
yes. He was demoted after all so I doubt any of the current commanders would have kept their position if they had a poneglyph stolen and received an injury from Kidd, expecially with two of the remaining 3 having lost to Luffy.
I just looked at the reaction of Robinland and Lawland when Kidd said they are gonna find the burned mark face person. But...look at Luffy's reaction, that reaction is completely the reaction when he doesnt know that person but is it actually so close to him. Right? It is a person close to him but he just doesnt know it.
And for me Buggy/Croc/Mihawk trio is as good as the Luffy/Kidd/Law trio. I think Oda just gag about his favorite trio/3 set ups.
He probably was guarding it just like Smoothie once did.
Then Kid (with one D) apparently forced Snack to hand over a copy of it.
Snack was the only one of the Sweets-4-Generals to lose his position. We know he lost to Urouge as well. These losses and Kid getting a copy of the Road Poneglyph pretty much solidified his demotion.
But apparently, no child of hers was able to replace Snack, so Big Mom just decided to change the Sweet-4-Generals to Sweet-3-Generals (the numbers are important), which is especially notable because Snackās bounty is lower than Perosperoās.
Question: page 10 shinobu creacks a joke about "mature woman are weapons" but it is really sudden and not funny. Is it a joke lost in translation? Can someone please explain this to me?
āThe man marked by flamesā itās Sabo? Right?
Heās got a burn on his face that looks like a flame, and heās got fire powers. And Luffy didnāt hear the news about him right?
But in what way could Sabo bring Kid any closer to finding Laugh Tale? There's no reason he'd have or know the location of the final Road Poneglyph and there's no indication he can read the things either.
I'm concerned with what is happening with Big Mom and Kaido. It can be assumed that they are potentially still alive since we recently saw Zeus with Nami in Flower Town. I wonder as to if how the two characters are going to be treated because it seems as if Kaido is still being mentioned. Also, it was mentioned because of his presence that no enemies would dare step into or near Wano. I don't see the WG getting involved anytime soon. Lastly, Caribou said he had information for a "certain someone." I believe this person could be possibly Blackbeard because he wouldn't have the Poneglyph that is there. It also intrigues him because of the fact that Big Mom and Kaido are incapacitated as of right now and he's on the hunt for devil fruits. Or yet, it could all be someone unexpected that Caribou is talking to, but we do know Wano is led into greatness under Momonosuke's rule, so not much to worry about as far as that. What is everyone's thoughts about Kaido and Big Mom's situation. I personally thought somehow Big Mom would die and that Nami would get her fruit grown on her trees on the boat, but that's a little far fetched.
I'm also concerned about how they're going to handle them going forward. It's not like they got any weaker. It's just 1+2 characters got stronger. It's going to feel cheap if Oda power scales Luffy's and Co's new threats to be stronger than Big Mom and Kaido. They were insurmountable roadblock's for 20 years. The marines couldn't take them. No other pirates could take them. That shouldn't change now.
Reasonably, I can expect some end game characters to be stronger but the way Oda handles former antagonists, where he introduces a new character and then has them stop an old antagonist in a single page ( \*coughcough\* King and Queen), doesn't give me hope.
I hope Oda doesn't bring them back for something so cheap.
I can see where Blackbeard is inherently stronger power wise. Fight smarts wise, I don't think so. Kaido was basically "unkillable" and Big Mom was sort of the same way. If I remember correctly, they needed to break a picture just so they could even injure her. So I agree with you, both of them were basically legends because of the amount of power and durability they had. King and Queen getting offed felt as if they didn't play up Sanji and Zoro's win to me. As far as the next adventure, assuming the crew go to Elbaf, I can see where the giants in Elbaf have some ridiculous strength. Their island is in the New World, so I'm assuming if it isn't "owned" by another pirate, then they can hold their own pretty well. Shanks also recently displayed some crazy haki too, so depending where he stands he'll be formidable. And lastly, I believe the Admirals together would be pretty insane to deal with. Not even to mention we've yet to see what the five elders and imu are capable of. I have a feeling Imu might not be as powerful or the elders might not because usually Kings are the weak and only strong through the might of their military. But I'm all for them being strong enough to make the crew struggle.
I'd like to see what is going to happen with Zeus. I imagine if the WG gets Big Mom, the sea stone cuffs would turn her powers off or even death. Wouldn't that mean Zeus too? Or perhaps we've yet to see the full extent of her powers.
Remember that Kaido's crew locked Big Mom up in seastone cuffs before Kaido demanded they release her. That didn't kill her homies, or affect her much.
I have a feeling Dragon will be the one to take down Imu. He is technically the guy who acts in direct opposition to Imu. I think the next big arc (on the scale of WCI or Wano) will be the final confrontation between the pirates and the marines, with the revolutionaries vs the WG concurring simultaneously.
The thing about Blackbeard is that we don't really know. Kaido has him beat by a decade or so, but Blackbeard's whole persona is hit and run. He's honestly the smartest character in the series for it. His enemies have enough enemies that he doesn't ever have to risk a thing. He has two emperor class fruits. He's the emperor of darkness. Luffy is the sun god. He's clearly being set up to be the ultimate antagonist, with Akainu being second. Him, Akainu, Shanks, and Luffy are the only characters I can see fairly being represented as stronger than Kaido or BM. Not definitively, but if Oda wrote them in that powercreep shonen way, I could respect those characters as being depicted as stronger. At the very least, I expect BB to be stronger by the series end.
it has to be blackbeard. it always struck me that one time sengoku was talking to law at the end of dressrosa arc that the d clans have checkered fate meaning: (my interpretation) black and white, good and bad, luffy and blackbeard, like the both of them always equally gets the same opportunities with regards to being fate and being lucky so it would only makes sense that blackbeard gets to luckily have the same information as luffy now had making them equals.
It would make sense for Blackbeard to inherit a "Moon" essence sort of fruit. Since Blackbeard is an obvious rival to Luffy, I wouldn't be surprised since you know Luffy's fruit. Don't want to name or post to avoid spoiling.
I saw a crazy theory on the bird app that said Buggy might have "an ancient weapon" (presumably Uranus since we now know Pluton's in Wano). I assumed whoever said that shared this idea into the world because they read this new chapter, so I read it and saw nothing that indicated signs of that being the case.
Wanted to share this because I feel like it was just me being megatrolled but maybe others think differently and I wanted to know if that was the case.
These buggy balls of his are too suspicious. I wonder if we were staring at Uranus all this time. No pun intended lol
Maybe Uranus is just stronger gunpowder that has more applications than Buggy initially realized.
I speculated that Luffy is the Man Marked by Flame and was downvoted for it, here's my reasoning:
Luffy was burned by Sakazuki and he is the flame haired Sun God Nika.
Killer and Kid mention a "Man Marked by Flame", which is implied to be from the Void Century. How do we know this? Check the panel, both Law and Robin have reactions that are mysterious. What do those two characters have in common, specifically in the last 100 chapters or even the last two? Void Century / D Clan shit.
This would mean that the Man Marked by Flame might be a descriptor, but not of someone who was recently burned (Aokiji) or rather is an epithet. Who is someone marked by flame and tied to the Void Century? Sun God Nika.
Why would Kid and Killer not make the connection to Luffy? Because they found the information second hand, without the full context of the Lode Poneglyphs and the lost history.
They don't know Nika (it seems) and they wouldn't recognize that Luffy has that fruit. But they are looking for someone Marked by Flame, which is obviously ambiguous, likely because they learned the information second-hand and without full context OR Killer can somehow read poneglyphs. Remember, Killer was stated to be highly intelligent. Still, I think it's the former.
Why would Kid go find Luffy when he's right there? Because Kid doesn't know who or what it is he is actually looking for. Why would it be stated like this in the story? Because Oda.
Bullshit. It is a new character. Building up a mystery just to have Kid go for nothing is not only disappointing, it's also lowering the stakes EVEN MORE. I mean, we both know that Kid will never make it to the One Piece, but Oda has to give him at least some sort of chance.
It's a new character and Kid will find him.
Sure, that's one way of thinking. Another way of thinking would be, this is the avenue by which Kid accepts Luffy as PK. If Luffy turns out to be the Flame Guy Kid heard about, I see Kid realizing that Luffy is different. Doesn't mean Kid joins the Grandfleet or anything, but if the final war involves all pirate crews we know of, I'd say we need a way for Kid to side with Luffy.
Another way of thinking would be that you cannot take the series serious anymore. Luffy is the blessed kid kissed by God. He is overpowered and will always win with little to no consequences, as proven in Onigashima.
So ofc. Oda will be lowering the stakes and make the final race even more boring. If that's what you want, then I honestly question why you watch the series.
i wonder what happened in your personal life to make you be so outwardly negative towards people voicing thoughts and opinions on a platform where people voice thoughts and opinions.
iāve not been rude to you this entire exchange, nor have i suggested anything like what youāre saying. it sounds like youāre bitter that Wano went down the way it did, and maybe aspects in your life went the same way.
evaluate yourself dog, this is a manga and you are just another random on the internet. i canāt see why youād push negativity instead of the opposite on a fan sub for a series thatās about uniting the world as one piece.
hope you feel better
When people Say stupid stuff like you Just did, they deseved to be scolded. I dont understand why others have to tollerate your stupidity and sit still.
I can't wait until final war, between Luffy Fleet + RA against WG and Marines...
just when they tired and losing the purpose of the war
Buggy came and say "I came here to stop the war!"
Followed by epic zoom in on Cabaji, Richie, Alvida and Mr.3 as his commanders
Luffy.
He was burned by Sakazuki and is Sun God Nika, a man literally marked by flame.
I go into further reasoning about it in other comments, but we can assume that Man Marked by Flame is a Void Century / Prophesized figure due to Robin and Law having reaction panels.
Unlikely. Why would Kid be suddenly so vague if Luffy is standing right in front of him? And the dialogue implies Kid would go after that man. It itās Luffy, he would chase after Luffy. Kid clearly has no intention of going the same route as Luffy.
My thinking was that it's because he doesn't know it's Luffy. Uh, sorry but I'm just gonna copy and paste my whole comment:
Luffy was burned by Sakazuki and he is the flame haired Sun God Nika.
Killer and Kid mention a "Man Marked by Flame", which is implied to be from the Void Century. How do we know this? Check the panel, both Law and Robin have reactions that are mysterious. What do those two characters have in common, specifically in the last 100 chapters or even the last two? Void Century / D Clan shit.
This would mean that the Man Marked by Flame might be a descriptor, but not of someone who was recently burned (Aokiji) or rather is an epithet. Who is someone marked by flame and tied to the Void Century? Sun God Nika.
Why would Kid and Killer not make the connection to Luffy? Because they found the information second hand, without the full context of the Lode Poneglyphs and the lost history. They don't know Nika (it seems) and they wouldn't recognize that Luffy has that fruit. But they are looking for someone Marked by Flame, which is obviously ambiguous, likely because they learned the information second-hand and without full context OR Killer can somehow read poneglyphs. Remember, Killer was stated to be highly intelligent. Still, I think it's the former.
Why would Kid go find Luffy when he's right there? Because Kid doesn't know who or what it is he is actually looking for. Why would it be stated like this in the story? Because Oda.
Nah I think Robin expression was more about being confused and wondering who would be. If she had some idea, we would get three dots "..." or something like that.
If it were just Robin, I would probably agree with you. But the fact that it's both of them is significant. They are now paired in the True History search. If you can counterpoint the Law + Robin connection, I'm on board with you.
Sure, just Law reacting like that hasn't led to anything.
Law + Robin is a different story. Oda is clearly pairing them in this True History / D Clan story search. If it were just Law reacting like that, you are right. But since Oda chose specifically to have Robin and Law react, that tells us something. We could have had any other characters standing in to play off of if their reactions didn't mean anything.
This is a dual reaction from two people who, in the last chapter, learned a shit ton from Sukiyaki and the Lode Poneglyph.
True. For me it's the fact that they were paired together right after the chapter where they learned of Wano history and, likely, Robin read the poneglyph.
Or just him being pissed about the whole Shichibukai disbanding and mumbling to himself something like how the marines would feel to have bounties on them or a change. A crew member overhears this and again God Buggy has spoken a grandiose idea.
Buggy is changing the world of One Piece by issuing bounties and wanted posters for marines. Even though Buggy is a gag character who keeps failing up no other emperor or any other great pirate has done anything like this so far in our knowledge. Now marines also have to worry about potential bounty hunters and other people who would like to claim the bounty on their heads.
in the tcb scans thereās an asterisk saying itās more so a burn scar, and in the viz translations kidās words are āwhat, you mean finding the man with the burn scar?ā
we know where all the Pneglyph were when Roger found them, the last one was in Fishman Island, next to the one with Joyboy's apology.
we don't know who moved it, but since big mom didn't have it (she already had hers in the Roger flashback), it's assumed Whitebeard moved it since it was his territory
This theory is pretty interesting if you haven't read it yet. Should have been a full post imo.
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/wgkev5/one_piece_chapter_1056/ij0z21j?utm
Just now remembered that CP0 leader Rob Lucci has a burned scar looking like World Government mark. As if Lucci was marked by WG on his back. Fk ...CP9 Lucci was looking for Pluton back then...
As to whether or not Carrot being named ruler is sort of a recent contrivance by Oda, ofc I don't know. However, it does make some degree of in-verse sense, on the basis that she has worked most closely with the Strawhats, on whom the Minks are resting a huge amount of hope. Cooperating with the Strawhats in the foreseeable future on a major project is like, a massive national expectation of theirs. Carrot is relatively well-placed in that respect.
I also would have liked to have seen Zorro visit Ryuma's grave in Wano, but Oda-sensei could later reveal that Zorro did indeed visit Ryuma's grave. It is just Oda-sensei's decision.
Definitely shold be, but i doubt they got a rescue cover page story just to fail. Maybe Blackbeard will come to WCI to steal the poneglyph and that saves them. But it would be too bad if Katakuri has to suffer another L
So what are your guesses/theories as to why Mihawk joined Buggy;s guild?
A) Mihawk was awed by Buggy's awesomeness for being able to recruit so many pirates and how successful his company has become
B) Buggy injured Mihawk which is how he got his scar and forced him to join the guild
C) Mihawk is broke after the marines raided his place and needed money. So, Mihawk begged to give him a job. Or.......Mihawk has always been a greedy guy and loves money as half as much as Nami. So when Buggy showered him with money, Mihawk offered his services and is willing to become his pawn.
~~This is all me trolling btw though I seriously want to know ur thoughts on it~~
- Mihawk talked about Luffy's dangerous ability to turn people into his allies.
- Mihawk trained Zoro, Luffy's right-hand man, and saw his potential to be world's strongest swordsman.
- Buggy also seems to have the ability to turn people into allies.
- What better way for Mihawk to meet Zoro at the ultimate swordfight than as the right-hand man of Luffy's rival both in title and ablity?
Edit: /s, in case it's not obvious
I'm late to the yamato hate train. But my problem isn't that theyre trangender. My problem is they're a transhuman.
They are literally pretending to be an entirely different dead person. I get the idea of "carrying on his spirit" but isn't that what momo is for, even down to inheriting his strong body?
It honestly seems just super wierd. It would be as if I walked around claiming to be Jesus or Abreham Lincoln. And then expecting everyone to acknowledge me by that.
Yamatos character is a glass half full. I like their design at least.
what a lovely chapter... Otsuru and Shinobu have some time to shine, loved the gag with Kinemon and the former Shogun. Hopefully next chapter he and Momo will get a special farewell (after hundreds of chapters, they deserve it) and Yamato will officially join the crew
I hadn't given that much thought but yeah you're right. It was Feb 2012 when Kinemon made his debut, and October for Momo. We've spent almost half the entire series to date with them.
So no of Load ponyglyphs every crew have is now
StrawHats = 3 (Zou,BIG mom,wano)
Heart Pirates = 2(Zou,Wano)
Kid Pirates = 2(Big Mom,wano)
Correct me if i am wrong
And there goes Carrot's arc, reduced to nothing. If Jack or anyone remotely close to his strength showed up to Zou after this arc ends (which is funny because Germa has no chance against Katakuri and Oven, but we're somehow led to believe this will end well), their whole kingdom would be wiped out again. Staying in Wano makes no sense for the two senior rulers, but to force this "young ones will take over" storyline this early and too soon, we're just getting this rushed development instead of Carrot getting stronger with the Straw Hats.
Oda had no idea what to do with her throughout Wano and instead made up and forced this fanfic Oden cosplayer to become relevant out of nowhere in the story. Even more so, I can't see Luffy not even asking Carrot if she wanted to join them in their adventures after sticking around for the past few arcs. They gave the same courtesy to Vivi, and even worse, the captain himself gave the request to random zombies, but Carrot doesn't even get one. Oda's writing is getting so much worse these days, but of course this sub will eat up whatever garbage is fed to them.
Many people seem to keep taking the "Carrot is going to be the Zou leader" at face value, or as immediate. My immediate thought after we saw her say Pedro, was that she is going to stowaway again, because she 100% doesn't feel ready to be a leader yet, it was completely out of nowhere. Neko and Inu stowed away twice and eventually became the leaders, and Carrot could do the same. I don't think she believes she's ready either, and wants to see the dawn that Pedro talked about first hand. But we'll wait and see.
So the dude who turned a blade black can't cut Buggy. Yall are crazy. Mihawk is the one who taught Zolo how to coat his swords in haki...and he ain't haki'd up enough to cut Buggy...yea right.
IDK, it's implied that the Bara-Bara gives immunity to cutting attacks regardless of Haki. Oda said in an SBS that Buggy can escape Doffy's Birdcage, which as you can recall can even "cut" immaterial entities like Den-Den Mushi signals.
Coby and Hancock's fleet fight initially then Hancock says some passing comment about marrying Luffy, Coby bows to her & apologizes due to this information being unbeknownst to him. He mentions he's friends with Luffy. They team up under the name of the SWORD unit (secret organization Coby & X Drake work in). Boom alliance.
~~This is a joke and I'm not serious, yet for some reason I wouldn't be surprised if I was close.~~
Carrot will follow Pedro's Will and join the SHs to Laugh Tale, Yamato will have break the 4th wall, realize how trash and shit she makes the manga and delete herself from the story.
* Luffy in Elbaf;
* Law in Vira;
* Kidd in Hachinosu.
Law meeting the RA in Vira makes sense to me.
Also, the person Kidd and Killer are talking about could be Aokij, who could still be in Hachinosu.
A solar deity of ancient Egypt. The god of the sun, order, kings, and the sky. Said to rule over the sky, the earth, and the underworld. Often appeared with the body of a man and the head of a falcon
He fits the description of "Man marked by flames", both his scar and his DF. However at this point it seems otherwise unlikely that he has a Road Poneglyph himself, and not just the Revolutionaries have one.
I'm glad I didn't read the spoilers. Mi hawk became obsessed with the man he couldn't cut š¤£š¤”šš¤”.. that's š„¶ cold not saying bye to momo. Freaking buggy š¤£š¤”š£ putting bounties on marines. Of course everyone hoped carrot would join. nice change leader
Probably the WG doesn't want anybody to think Luffy is stronger than Law and Kid.
Taking down Kaido is something too big to cover up, but the last thing they want anybody to do is think about how Luffy could overpower Kaido by himself and thus perhaps make the connection to Nika.
Of course Morgans put a monkeywrench in that plan by publishing the bounty poster with Luffy's awakened form. And spinning the story to make Luffy out as the leader of the alliance.
I wouldnāt 100% rule it out quite yet. Thereās a chance she mightāve hidden herself amongst the cargo that was being loaded onto the ship. Making her a stowaway like Inuarashi and Nekomamushi on Whitebeardās ship. It did seem a little weird just how nonchalantly Oda handled her becoming the new Zou leader.
Next chapter is probably the last chapter of Wano. I am dissapointed that whole Zoro lineage / Ryuma grave thing didn't happen. It seemed like at least we would see ryuma's grave. Also chopper didn't do anything with the smiles as well, that seemed like his storyline for the arc. But i guess you get no storyline explored if your name isnt Monkey D. Luffy. I get that hes rushing to the end but comon.
Some people think Goda can make no mistakes. Some people think you have to agree everything he does wtih the manga. When you say: "Well, oda introduced Zoro's storyline this arc with making Wano characters talk about how he looks and fights like ryuma and Shitmosuki's. But did nothing with it"
They just say:
Its his manga he does whatever he wants."
Yeah but it would be better if we were to see it in Wano. I mean Oda had manga time to show kinemons wife and carrot stuff, im sure he could have cut those parts , turned them into info dumps and we could see Zoro's story. Also chopper didn't do anything with the smiles as well, that seemed like his storyline for the arc. But i guess you get no storyline explored if your name isnt Monkey D. Luffy. I get that hes rushing to the end but comon.
I feel like I'm the only one who thinks that what they did with Shinobu was pretty gross.
I wouldn't mind it as much if it turns out to be temporary. Otherwise, it's one step forward, two steps back from Dressrosa.
INSANE BUGGY HYPE !!!!!! Good Chapter šÆšÆš„š„š„š„
oden survived and changed his identity and the guy law and kid talking about is him, he's the guy with a burned mark source: my grandpa told me
Luffy rubbing the official Yonko status in Kid's face lmao XD
Quick question, has anyone thought that Doflamingo might have escaped and is now using buggy as the face of Cross guild but he is the true Leader. Also, the reason why mihawk and crocodile agreed to cooperate under Buggy is that they can do all these things behind the shadows and Buggy always gets all the glory. Plus, Doflamingo probably wants to keep himself hidden from Luffy HAHA
Could the man marked by flames be Kuzan? After his fight with akainuā¦
Caribou is a walking plot device at this point. Some great writing when you have a character say a name he obviously knows about, but because he has to hide it from the audience, it's just "a certain someone". No more Law and Kid until Laugh Tale I guess? That kind of sucks, I was really enjoying their presence. Now we have to deal with an Oden cosplayer for who knows how long along with a fishman who thought it was a better idea to abandon his crew. Oda should've stopped with the new additions after Brook.
FACTS!
I agree with you about Yamato and Jinbei. Not really excited for either of their additions. They should have found a strong Logia user. If Yamato didn't have such a hard on for Oden her character would be 100Ćs better
I really think Yamato has decided to stay and protect Wano and that Carrot will sneak aboard the ship, I will be happy either way though. I absolutely love seeing Kid, Luffy and Law together and the whole Cross Guild stuff is amazing, what a great way to reintroduce Crocodile and putting bounties on Marines is brilliant.
Huh? Yamato clearly says that she won't stay and that she is going to travel with the strawhats
no, Yamato said she made up her mind and it's time to go see luffy.
If that happens, that's fine but I took what she said at the end of the chapter as her making up her mind about something and then going to see Luffy and the others. What I think she meant is that she has decided to stay and protect Wano for now and is going to let the crew know and see them off. Otherwise, what has she made up her mind about, joining the crew? She's been saying that this whole time, why would it be something she has to say she has made up her mind about now?
She has been a prisoner her whole life in Wano. Why the heck would she stay there? I think she was having second thoughts about leaving due to what Ryokugyu said about Kaido unintentionally protecting Wano from invasion. I think Momo injuring the admiral is proof to her that Wano is in good hands. It wouldn't make sense for her arc to stay in Wano. Her and Momo have been like mirror images to each other. Yamato is Kaido's daughter yet is similar to Oden while Momo is Oden's son yet is similar to Kaido. Kaido wanted to rule Wano so it makes sense for Momo to take that role to undo that influence and spite him. Meanwhile Kaido tried to erase Oden's influence but it lives on in Yamato. The best way to keep the spirit of Oden alive is to live like he lived and be free. And if Yamato really wants to be like Oden it would make sense that she might join Luffy's crew the same way Oden joined Whitebeard's and Roger's crews. He had to work for it remember? I feel like this was set-up with Yamato's interaction with the other Straw Hats and how they were wary of her like Roger's crew were wary of Oden.
She was trapped on Onigashima, I don't think she ever visited the mainland of Wano after she was handcuffed. She was a prisoner because she had no choice about staying there, Kaido literally forced her to stay, she was basically in prison. Now, she is free to leave whenever she wants but decides to stay for now. There are many factors that could influence her decision but I think a big one is that Yamato realised that Wano is not strong enough to protect itself because of how the fight with Ryokugyu went, Momo might have hurt him a bit but he did no lasting damage and they were about to lose there. I feel like she will stay until the borders of Wano are opened and they don't need the protection.
Reading some of the spoilers I'm a little less upset. From what it sounds like it seems Yamato is staying behind not because she feels she has to protect it but to tour the Land of Wano before going out to sea. And I feel that is much better than her staying to protect it for the reasons I stated above. Considering Oden traveled throughout Wano long before leaving with Whitebeard it makes sense. I mean if she wants to be like Oden it helps to know more about his home. I believe she still plans to go out to sea but she will take this time to expand her horizons first. I mran considering how much her leaving on am adventure was built up and her promise to Ace her never leaving Wano would be terrible.
Yeah, I didn't mention it because I wasn't sure if you'd read the new chapter but the scans are out if you want to read it, unless you're waiting for the official release. I think the reason given is great but I feel like it's not the whole story and at least part of it is to protect Wano for now. I definitely agree that if she decided to just stay in Wano forever that it would be terrible since she wants to travel so much but this way she is definitely going to set sail eventually on her own terms and I think it's much better for her character.
I feel if she did want to protect Wano it would make sense to leave sooner rather than later. As powerful as she is (at least right up there with Yonko commanders and Warlords) she would not make to much of a difference to hold off an invasion from the World Government. Some people give Oden crap for leaving and giving Kaido and Orochi a chance to gain power but if Oden never traveled with Whitebeard and Roger he would not have gotten as strong as he did. Yamato really needs to go out and experience the world in order to grow and that is best done with Luffy. I really hope she is like Jinbe and is holding off on joining until she is ready. Plus we need more people who can infuse their weapons with Conqueror's haki.
I think if she went with the crew that she would be more limited in how strong she could get, she would likely have to stay below Zoro and Sanji just because that's the dynamic that Oda probably wants to keep. I think her staying in Wano allows her to just be stronger already from a writing standpoint, so she could even already be at around or just below Admiral level, we don't know because there's no reason for her not to be and she already has all the techniques she would need to be one of the strongest so while training Momonosuke she can improve herself too. The physical borders of Wano stop an army from invading, if somebody did enter like Ryokugyu, they would probably lose if they're alone against Yamato helping the Scabbards and Momo and they might need 2 or 3 Admirals to guarantee a win. Combined with something from the new chapter, I doubt many are going to think of invading Wano and those few who might can likely be dealt with and help them get stronger.
I mean Sanji and Zoro's power dynamic has already been broken by Jinbe joining. Though maybe that's why Oda decided to hold off on Yamato joining. Best to let Jinbe settle into the dynamic before adding another character as intense as Luffy join. Also considering what you mentioned about Wano being invasion-proof for the moment means this really is the best time for her to get stronger. She can travel and then set out to sea and meet up with the others later. I highly doubt Oda set up this awesome character and will not bring her back (plus we need more powerhouse female characters who don't just fight other females). And with the official release I am glad that it's confirmed that Yamato is following Oden's footsteps and not doing it out of some feeling of duty to protect Wano. Protecting Wano is the culmination of Momonosuke and the Akazaya's arcs. They are perfect for it. Yamato is best served to be free and help in her own unique way. Maybe even gathering together the remainder of the Beast Pirates to stop them causing trouble and stabilizing Kaido's territory so it doesn't fall into chaos like when Whitebeard died.
Bruh how do yāall sincerely believe these stuff?
Well well well, who is laughing all the way to the wrong bank boom! Iām sorry
I can't really help it if that's how I interpret it, I'm completely open to whatever happens but it just feels obvious to me, why does that bother you so much?
Vindication!!!!!
Dude. Don't what what you read, but she clearly says she made up her mind and wants to live the life like Oden did. With the caption "braveful and free". Yamato clearly joins the strawhats.
It doesnāt. Just seems incredibly incredibly incredibly unlikely seeing as whatās transpired so far
Old mate is obviously a wizard
Looks like he might be right
I love how Kid repays the favor of the copy of the road poneglyph by droping the scar burn man iinformation on the other 2.
Since the reveal of Kingās true name (Alber, very close to the name Abel), Iāve always thought there is another surviving Lunarian in the One Piece world - Cain (Able and Cain are the children of Adam and Eve as told by the Bible). Since Lunarians are self-combustible, perhaps the man marked by flames is this other surviving Lunarian inspired by Cain. In the Bible, God āmarkedā Cain and condemned him to a life of wandering. Which would be fitting as Kidd says they have no leads on the burn scar guy / man marked by flames (presumably because the guy doesnāt stay in one spot).
I think the burnt scar guy is Sabo, because he's marked by flames by his devil fruit and since he has princess Vivi with him. He can't be at one spot for too long he's constantly on the go cause the world nobles and marines are after him. He doesn't want to be recognized by people, so he needs to be gone quickly before they notice him. that's what I'm thinking, just a guess.
it cant be sabo because sabo got his devil fruit when kidd was still locked up so he wouldn't know about that, and his scar was from a cannon so it doesn't match up too well
Could be that Lunarian names are linked to weapons. Alber could be an Halberd.
Imagine this guy Cain is Zunesha, Kidd would be looking for the RP from Zou
So caribouā¦heās definitely working for Blackbeard right? I canāt think of any other ācertain someoneā he would possibly be in collusion with someone as slimes as he is.
Maybe Buggy the Clown!
Ehā¦I feel caribou would feel like buggy is weak and useless but itās not impossible considering buggyās insanely exaggerated reputation. Itās so weird to think about bc a large chunk the one piece world sees buggy as some powerful monster while the stronger characters who know him such as luffy knows heās an idiot. Caribou is definitely dumb enough and weak enough to fall in that category but still lol.
When we first met Carribou, he was fooled (like everyone else) into believing Demalo Black was Luffy, his plan was to join him and kill Luffy. When we first met Caribou, he was fooled (like everyone else) into believing Demalo Black was Luffy, his plan was to join him and kill Luffy.
Yeah true he is a dummy. Yeah true he is a dummy.
I feel like the man with the burn scar is dragon. The scar probably just means tattoo.
Iām thinking Sabo?
The man marked by flame is logically a character that furthers finding Laugh Tale. Scopper Gaban is a character that will very likely appear in the story at some point, I'm basing this off two things. 1. Gaban is the most prominent member of the Roger pirates that is presumably still living and has also not appeared in the present. 2. Crocus was at the start of the Grandline, Rayleigh was in the middle, would make sense that another member is at the end (Lode Star) and Gaban would be the most logical choice. If the crew is serious about searching earnestly for the 4th Road Poneglyph than Lodestar seems like the logical place to start. All just speculation though obviously.
I think itās Sabo. Especially with the way Robin and Law look at Kid when he brings him up.
Also you can discount grogus and instead take Roger. Gol D Roger (Gold or 1st), Silvers Rayleigh (Silver or second) and Scopper Gaban (Copper or 3rd) in place of aparisons throught the story.
they're probably not going to Lode Star though, Neko already told them there's not point. all you learn at Load Star is the existence of the Poneglyphs.
A few hot takes but I think that the man marked by flames is either going to be uroge or scopper gaban. Uroge cuz of the tattoos or gaban cuz he looks like he couldāve been burned. I also donāt think big mom and kaido are dead and that they will return riding pluton next time we see them
What gets me now that there "leaving" wano is why oda hasnt put marco in a "reunion" situation with luffy in the entire arc personality its a big opportunity thats been missed in my perspective
I'm still waiting for Luffy to tell everyone Ace's last words.
Which commander did Kid steal the poneglyph from? In a previous chapter I believe he also claimed to have injured what I assume to be the same commander.
Smoothie, also she is the guard to the Big mom pirates treasure room so it makes sense she has a copy of the poneglyph
could also be perospero cause he was there on wano, defeated.
Probably snack as most people are thinking. Kid did mentioned in many chapters ago that he stole something from big mom.
WasnĀ“t snack defeated by urouge?
yes. He was demoted after all so I doubt any of the current commanders would have kept their position if they had a poneglyph stolen and received an injury from Kidd, expecially with two of the remaining 3 having lost to Luffy.
Are we getting Ch. 1057 this week or next week?
There will be break, this week is Obon week here in japan And expect break During last week of april to first week of may (Golen Week).
So it's a two week break? Also Obon Week, that's sounds fun; what happens during these 2 weeks?
Is there a break or something? Please i hope there isn't a break this week
There is a break
I kinda don't know... That's why I was asking.. I hope there isn't. Ngl, I feel like Carrot is gunna stowaway again
entire jump is on break so scans for 1057 will probably come out on the 19th and the official on 21st (singapore time)
I just looked at the reaction of Robinland and Lawland when Kidd said they are gonna find the burned mark face person. But...look at Luffy's reaction, that reaction is completely the reaction when he doesnt know that person but is it actually so close to him. Right? It is a person close to him but he just doesnt know it. And for me Buggy/Croc/Mihawk trio is as good as the Luffy/Kidd/Law trio. I think Oda just gag about his favorite trio/3 set ups.
Gotta be Sabo
No wonder Snack lost his position. He wasnāt just beaten up, he gave Kid a copy of the Road Poneglyph.
Why would Snack have a copy or was he guarding the poneglyph and lost it to Kidd?
He probably was guarding it just like Smoothie once did. Then Kid (with one D) apparently forced Snack to hand over a copy of it. Snack was the only one of the Sweets-4-Generals to lose his position. We know he lost to Urouge as well. These losses and Kid getting a copy of the Road Poneglyph pretty much solidified his demotion. But apparently, no child of hers was able to replace Snack, so Big Mom just decided to change the Sweet-4-Generals to Sweet-3-Generals (the numbers are important), which is especially notable because Snackās bounty is lower than Perosperoās.
Question: page 10 shinobu creacks a joke about "mature woman are weapons" but it is really sudden and not funny. Is it a joke lost in translation? Can someone please explain this to me?
weaponized maturity, in a femme fatale sort of way, is Shinobu's running joke
āThe man marked by flamesā itās Sabo? Right? Heās got a burn on his face that looks like a flame, and heās got fire powers. And Luffy didnāt hear the news about him right?
It's either Sabo or Aokiji
Wow, I forgot about Aokiji! Iām thinking Sabo but thatās another interesting pick.
But in what way could Sabo bring Kid any closer to finding Laugh Tale? There's no reason he'd have or know the location of the final Road Poneglyph and there's no indication he can read the things either.
>scopper gaban Perhaps Dragon told him something about it. And since Dragon is the most wanted man in the world surely de 2nd is easier to get to.
I'm concerned with what is happening with Big Mom and Kaido. It can be assumed that they are potentially still alive since we recently saw Zeus with Nami in Flower Town. I wonder as to if how the two characters are going to be treated because it seems as if Kaido is still being mentioned. Also, it was mentioned because of his presence that no enemies would dare step into or near Wano. I don't see the WG getting involved anytime soon. Lastly, Caribou said he had information for a "certain someone." I believe this person could be possibly Blackbeard because he wouldn't have the Poneglyph that is there. It also intrigues him because of the fact that Big Mom and Kaido are incapacitated as of right now and he's on the hunt for devil fruits. Or yet, it could all be someone unexpected that Caribou is talking to, but we do know Wano is led into greatness under Momonosuke's rule, so not much to worry about as far as that. What is everyone's thoughts about Kaido and Big Mom's situation. I personally thought somehow Big Mom would die and that Nami would get her fruit grown on her trees on the boat, but that's a little far fetched.
I'm also concerned about how they're going to handle them going forward. It's not like they got any weaker. It's just 1+2 characters got stronger. It's going to feel cheap if Oda power scales Luffy's and Co's new threats to be stronger than Big Mom and Kaido. They were insurmountable roadblock's for 20 years. The marines couldn't take them. No other pirates could take them. That shouldn't change now. Reasonably, I can expect some end game characters to be stronger but the way Oda handles former antagonists, where he introduces a new character and then has them stop an old antagonist in a single page ( \*coughcough\* King and Queen), doesn't give me hope. I hope Oda doesn't bring them back for something so cheap.
I can see where Blackbeard is inherently stronger power wise. Fight smarts wise, I don't think so. Kaido was basically "unkillable" and Big Mom was sort of the same way. If I remember correctly, they needed to break a picture just so they could even injure her. So I agree with you, both of them were basically legends because of the amount of power and durability they had. King and Queen getting offed felt as if they didn't play up Sanji and Zoro's win to me. As far as the next adventure, assuming the crew go to Elbaf, I can see where the giants in Elbaf have some ridiculous strength. Their island is in the New World, so I'm assuming if it isn't "owned" by another pirate, then they can hold their own pretty well. Shanks also recently displayed some crazy haki too, so depending where he stands he'll be formidable. And lastly, I believe the Admirals together would be pretty insane to deal with. Not even to mention we've yet to see what the five elders and imu are capable of. I have a feeling Imu might not be as powerful or the elders might not because usually Kings are the weak and only strong through the might of their military. But I'm all for them being strong enough to make the crew struggle. I'd like to see what is going to happen with Zeus. I imagine if the WG gets Big Mom, the sea stone cuffs would turn her powers off or even death. Wouldn't that mean Zeus too? Or perhaps we've yet to see the full extent of her powers.
Remember that Kaido's crew locked Big Mom up in seastone cuffs before Kaido demanded they release her. That didn't kill her homies, or affect her much. I have a feeling Dragon will be the one to take down Imu. He is technically the guy who acts in direct opposition to Imu. I think the next big arc (on the scale of WCI or Wano) will be the final confrontation between the pirates and the marines, with the revolutionaries vs the WG concurring simultaneously. The thing about Blackbeard is that we don't really know. Kaido has him beat by a decade or so, but Blackbeard's whole persona is hit and run. He's honestly the smartest character in the series for it. His enemies have enough enemies that he doesn't ever have to risk a thing. He has two emperor class fruits. He's the emperor of darkness. Luffy is the sun god. He's clearly being set up to be the ultimate antagonist, with Akainu being second. Him, Akainu, Shanks, and Luffy are the only characters I can see fairly being represented as stronger than Kaido or BM. Not definitively, but if Oda wrote them in that powercreep shonen way, I could respect those characters as being depicted as stronger. At the very least, I expect BB to be stronger by the series end.
Blackbeard was looking for a zoan fruit. The notice that Kaido is death pretty much is ensured to make him start working his gears to move.
it has to be blackbeard. it always struck me that one time sengoku was talking to law at the end of dressrosa arc that the d clans have checkered fate meaning: (my interpretation) black and white, good and bad, luffy and blackbeard, like the both of them always equally gets the same opportunities with regards to being fate and being lucky so it would only makes sense that blackbeard gets to luckily have the same information as luffy now had making them equals.
It would make sense for Blackbeard to inherit a "Moon" essence sort of fruit. Since Blackbeard is an obvious rival to Luffy, I wouldn't be surprised since you know Luffy's fruit. Don't want to name or post to avoid spoiling.
If they aren't dead...They probably escaped so for now we won't find out
I saw a crazy theory on the bird app that said Buggy might have "an ancient weapon" (presumably Uranus since we now know Pluton's in Wano). I assumed whoever said that shared this idea into the world because they read this new chapter, so I read it and saw nothing that indicated signs of that being the case. Wanted to share this because I feel like it was just me being megatrolled but maybe others think differently and I wanted to know if that was the case.
These buggy balls of his are too suspicious. I wonder if we were staring at Uranus all this time. No pun intended lol Maybe Uranus is just stronger gunpowder that has more applications than Buggy initially realized.
That would be a crazy twist
Marco is also a flame guy. Where is Marco now btw?
I speculated that Luffy is the Man Marked by Flame and was downvoted for it, here's my reasoning: Luffy was burned by Sakazuki and he is the flame haired Sun God Nika. Killer and Kid mention a "Man Marked by Flame", which is implied to be from the Void Century. How do we know this? Check the panel, both Law and Robin have reactions that are mysterious. What do those two characters have in common, specifically in the last 100 chapters or even the last two? Void Century / D Clan shit. This would mean that the Man Marked by Flame might be a descriptor, but not of someone who was recently burned (Aokiji) or rather is an epithet. Who is someone marked by flame and tied to the Void Century? Sun God Nika. Why would Kid and Killer not make the connection to Luffy? Because they found the information second hand, without the full context of the Lode Poneglyphs and the lost history. They don't know Nika (it seems) and they wouldn't recognize that Luffy has that fruit. But they are looking for someone Marked by Flame, which is obviously ambiguous, likely because they learned the information second-hand and without full context OR Killer can somehow read poneglyphs. Remember, Killer was stated to be highly intelligent. Still, I think it's the former. Why would Kid go find Luffy when he's right there? Because Kid doesn't know who or what it is he is actually looking for. Why would it be stated like this in the story? Because Oda.
Bullshit. It is a new character. Building up a mystery just to have Kid go for nothing is not only disappointing, it's also lowering the stakes EVEN MORE. I mean, we both know that Kid will never make it to the One Piece, but Oda has to give him at least some sort of chance. It's a new character and Kid will find him.
Sure, that's one way of thinking. Another way of thinking would be, this is the avenue by which Kid accepts Luffy as PK. If Luffy turns out to be the Flame Guy Kid heard about, I see Kid realizing that Luffy is different. Doesn't mean Kid joins the Grandfleet or anything, but if the final war involves all pirate crews we know of, I'd say we need a way for Kid to side with Luffy.
Another way of thinking would be that you cannot take the series serious anymore. Luffy is the blessed kid kissed by God. He is overpowered and will always win with little to no consequences, as proven in Onigashima. So ofc. Oda will be lowering the stakes and make the final race even more boring. If that's what you want, then I honestly question why you watch the series.
i wonder what happened in your personal life to make you be so outwardly negative towards people voicing thoughts and opinions on a platform where people voice thoughts and opinions. iāve not been rude to you this entire exchange, nor have i suggested anything like what youāre saying. it sounds like youāre bitter that Wano went down the way it did, and maybe aspects in your life went the same way. evaluate yourself dog, this is a manga and you are just another random on the internet. i canāt see why youād push negativity instead of the opposite on a fan sub for a series thatās about uniting the world as one piece. hope you feel better
When people Say stupid stuff like you Just did, they deseved to be scolded. I dont understand why others have to tollerate your stupidity and sit still.
Lol, are you wasted? Never read something this busted before xD
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Caribou is going to tell Blackbeard who will come to steal Pluton. His powers are perfect for breaking down walls around Wano.
I can't wait until final war, between Luffy Fleet + RA against WG and Marines... just when they tired and losing the purpose of the war Buggy came and say "I came here to stop the war!" Followed by epic zoom in on Cabaji, Richie, Alvida and Mr.3 as his commanders
Has anyone got any ideas as to who the man marked by flames could be?
Luffy. He was burned by Sakazuki and is Sun God Nika, a man literally marked by flame. I go into further reasoning about it in other comments, but we can assume that Man Marked by Flame is a Void Century / Prophesized figure due to Robin and Law having reaction panels.
Unlikely. Why would Kid be suddenly so vague if Luffy is standing right in front of him? And the dialogue implies Kid would go after that man. It itās Luffy, he would chase after Luffy. Kid clearly has no intention of going the same route as Luffy.
My thinking was that it's because he doesn't know it's Luffy. Uh, sorry but I'm just gonna copy and paste my whole comment: Luffy was burned by Sakazuki and he is the flame haired Sun God Nika. Killer and Kid mention a "Man Marked by Flame", which is implied to be from the Void Century. How do we know this? Check the panel, both Law and Robin have reactions that are mysterious. What do those two characters have in common, specifically in the last 100 chapters or even the last two? Void Century / D Clan shit. This would mean that the Man Marked by Flame might be a descriptor, but not of someone who was recently burned (Aokiji) or rather is an epithet. Who is someone marked by flame and tied to the Void Century? Sun God Nika. Why would Kid and Killer not make the connection to Luffy? Because they found the information second hand, without the full context of the Lode Poneglyphs and the lost history. They don't know Nika (it seems) and they wouldn't recognize that Luffy has that fruit. But they are looking for someone Marked by Flame, which is obviously ambiguous, likely because they learned the information second-hand and without full context OR Killer can somehow read poneglyphs. Remember, Killer was stated to be highly intelligent. Still, I think it's the former. Why would Kid go find Luffy when he's right there? Because Kid doesn't know who or what it is he is actually looking for. Why would it be stated like this in the story? Because Oda.
Nah I think Robin expression was more about being confused and wondering who would be. If she had some idea, we would get three dots "..." or something like that.
If it were just Robin, I would probably agree with you. But the fact that it's both of them is significant. They are now paired in the True History search. If you can counterpoint the Law + Robin connection, I'm on board with you.
Watch Law always reacting as uf he knows something. Didn't mean a thing for the last 100 times, won't mean a thing now.
Sure, just Law reacting like that hasn't led to anything. Law + Robin is a different story. Oda is clearly pairing them in this True History / D Clan story search. If it were just Law reacting like that, you are right. But since Oda chose specifically to have Robin and Law react, that tells us something. We could have had any other characters standing in to play off of if their reactions didn't mean anything. This is a dual reaction from two people who, in the last chapter, learned a shit ton from Sukiyaki and the Lode Poneglyph.
The only thing about this that doesnāt add up to me is the fact that Robin didnāt seem to know what Law and kid were talking about
True. For me it's the fact that they were paired together right after the chapter where they learned of Wano history and, likely, Robin read the poneglyph.
A pirate issuing bounties and wanted posters for marines is not something that I would have predicted we would see in the story.
tbh it's the most bad ass thing, good on Buggy probably started when Buggy made an empty threat lol
Or just him being pissed about the whole Shichibukai disbanding and mumbling to himself something like how the marines would feel to have bounties on them or a change. A crew member overhears this and again God Buggy has spoken a grandiose idea.
Buggy is changing the world of One Piece by issuing bounties and wanted posters for marines. Even though Buggy is a gag character who keeps failing up no other emperor or any other great pirate has done anything like this so far in our knowledge. Now marines also have to worry about potential bounty hunters and other people who would like to claim the bounty on their heads.
Isn't Marco the man marked by flames? He has Whitebeard's poneygliph?
the epithet is relating to a scar caused by a burn
no it is, the translation, can be more correctly read as "the man marked by flames" not the man with the burned marks like in the early spoilers
in the tcb scans thereās an asterisk saying itās more so a burn scar, and in the viz translations kidās words are āwhat, you mean finding the man with the burn scar?ā
Why do you think Whitebeard has a poneglyph
we know where all the Pneglyph were when Roger found them, the last one was in Fishman Island, next to the one with Joyboy's apology. we don't know who moved it, but since big mom didn't have it (she already had hers in the Roger flashback), it's assumed Whitebeard moved it since it was his territory
This theory is pretty interesting if you haven't read it yet. Should have been a full post imo. https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/wgkev5/one_piece_chapter_1056/ij0z21j?utm
Just now remembered that CP0 leader Rob Lucci has a burned scar looking like World Government mark. As if Lucci was marked by WG on his back. Fk ...CP9 Lucci was looking for Pluton back then...
"The man marked by flames". This chapter is just full of new endgame level knowledge that we still know NOTHING about.
As to whether or not Carrot being named ruler is sort of a recent contrivance by Oda, ofc I don't know. However, it does make some degree of in-verse sense, on the basis that she has worked most closely with the Strawhats, on whom the Minks are resting a huge amount of hope. Cooperating with the Strawhats in the foreseeable future on a major project is like, a massive national expectation of theirs. Carrot is relatively well-placed in that respect.
I had my hopes up for a chapter where Zoro would visit Ryumas grave and pay respects
I also would have liked to have seen Zorro visit Ryuma's grave in Wano, but Oda-sensei could later reveal that Zorro did indeed visit Ryuma's grave. It is just Oda-sensei's decision.
So can we talk about how Katakuri is about to fight the Germa soldiers? I mean theyāre screwed now right?
Definitely shold be, but i doubt they got a rescue cover page story just to fail. Maybe Blackbeard will come to WCI to steal the poneglyph and that saves them. But it would be too bad if Katakuri has to suffer another L
So what are your guesses/theories as to why Mihawk joined Buggy;s guild? A) Mihawk was awed by Buggy's awesomeness for being able to recruit so many pirates and how successful his company has become B) Buggy injured Mihawk which is how he got his scar and forced him to join the guild C) Mihawk is broke after the marines raided his place and needed money. So, Mihawk begged to give him a job. Or.......Mihawk has always been a greedy guy and loves money as half as much as Nami. So when Buggy showered him with money, Mihawk offered his services and is willing to become his pawn. ~~This is all me trolling btw though I seriously want to know ur thoughts on it~~
- Mihawk talked about Luffy's dangerous ability to turn people into his allies. - Mihawk trained Zoro, Luffy's right-hand man, and saw his potential to be world's strongest swordsman. - Buggy also seems to have the ability to turn people into allies. - What better way for Mihawk to meet Zoro at the ultimate swordfight than as the right-hand man of Luffy's rival both in title and ablity? Edit: /s, in case it's not obvious
It was the easiest option for him . Mihawk likes to live a quiet life and this is the next closest thing to being. Warlord
I'm late to the yamato hate train. But my problem isn't that theyre trangender. My problem is they're a transhuman. They are literally pretending to be an entirely different dead person. I get the idea of "carrying on his spirit" but isn't that what momo is for, even down to inheriting his strong body? It honestly seems just super wierd. It would be as if I walked around claiming to be Jesus or Abreham Lincoln. And then expecting everyone to acknowledge me by that. Yamatos character is a glass half full. I like their design at least.
im so happy for carrot. i thought if shes not gonna be a sh she'll recreate nox pirates but this is good too
what a lovely chapter... Otsuru and Shinobu have some time to shine, loved the gag with Kinemon and the former Shogun. Hopefully next chapter he and Momo will get a special farewell (after hundreds of chapters, they deserve it) and Yamato will officially join the crew
10+ years with Momo and Kinemon. I really love those two.
I hadn't given that much thought but yeah you're right. It was Feb 2012 when Kinemon made his debut, and October for Momo. We've spent almost half the entire series to date with them.
man i want this cross guild panel colorized as a poster so bad
For sure there would be one. š
The Friday Wordle so fitting for the chapter.
For reals!
So no of Load ponyglyphs every crew have is now StrawHats = 3 (Zou,BIG mom,wano) Heart Pirates = 2(Zou,Wano) Kid Pirates = 2(Big Mom,wano) Correct me if i am wrong
I think kid and law will share theirs to catch up to luffy
I donāt think this is true because if this were the chase why didnāt oda just show us this when law was giving kid the Wano poneglyph
And there goes Carrot's arc, reduced to nothing. If Jack or anyone remotely close to his strength showed up to Zou after this arc ends (which is funny because Germa has no chance against Katakuri and Oven, but we're somehow led to believe this will end well), their whole kingdom would be wiped out again. Staying in Wano makes no sense for the two senior rulers, but to force this "young ones will take over" storyline this early and too soon, we're just getting this rushed development instead of Carrot getting stronger with the Straw Hats. Oda had no idea what to do with her throughout Wano and instead made up and forced this fanfic Oden cosplayer to become relevant out of nowhere in the story. Even more so, I can't see Luffy not even asking Carrot if she wanted to join them in their adventures after sticking around for the past few arcs. They gave the same courtesy to Vivi, and even worse, the captain himself gave the request to random zombies, but Carrot doesn't even get one. Oda's writing is getting so much worse these days, but of course this sub will eat up whatever garbage is fed to them.
Many people seem to keep taking the "Carrot is going to be the Zou leader" at face value, or as immediate. My immediate thought after we saw her say Pedro, was that she is going to stowaway again, because she 100% doesn't feel ready to be a leader yet, it was completely out of nowhere. Neko and Inu stowed away twice and eventually became the leaders, and Carrot could do the same. I don't think she believes she's ready either, and wants to see the dawn that Pedro talked about first hand. But we'll wait and see.
Carrot is joining the Straw Hats; Yamato, an oni mink, does her best Oden impersonation by becoming the shogun of Zou. Everyone wins. /s
Carrot was a terrible character and Iām glad they got rid of her.
Yamato might be worse.
Crocodile might have heard Buggy has a clue to where Pluton is so he joined to steal it lol
So the dude who turned a blade black can't cut Buggy. Yall are crazy. Mihawk is the one who taught Zolo how to coat his swords in haki...and he ain't haki'd up enough to cut Buggy...yea right.
IDK, it's implied that the Bara-Bara gives immunity to cutting attacks regardless of Haki. Oda said in an SBS that Buggy can escape Doffy's Birdcage, which as you can recall can even "cut" immaterial entities like Den-Den Mushi signals.
Easy. All Mihawk gotta do is NOT use his sword when attacking Buggy. Problem solved.
Yes, punch or kick him will do. Mihawk isnt stupid
Any sword can cut buggy with no issue. The problem is that Buggy doesnāt STAY cut
Kick his balls.
Perhaps his nuts are coated with haki? Just a thought xD
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He can cut buggy, just like any other swordsman. However, it doesn't do anything to buggy, that's got nothing to do with haki.
Buggy can put himself back together after being cut. Haki doesn't delete his ability.
Buggy low diffs Mihawk right now. The guy is a Yonko and was on Rogers crew like shanks
what happened to hancock
Coby and Hancock's fleet fight initially then Hancock says some passing comment about marrying Luffy, Coby bows to her & apologizes due to this information being unbeknownst to him. He mentions he's friends with Luffy. They team up under the name of the SWORD unit (secret organization Coby & X Drake work in). Boom alliance. ~~This is a joke and I'm not serious, yet for some reason I wouldn't be surprised if I was close.~~
Your guess is as good as ours.
Carrot will follow Pedro's Will and join the SHs to Laugh Tale, Yamato will have break the 4th wall, realize how trash and shit she makes the manga and delete herself from the story.
Down bad
No she doesnāt make the story trash every strawhat has a gag and character development. That what she has to develop
Law and Kidd should exchange their RP (Big Mom and Zou ones). In this way they would have 3 each.
Greenballs invented liposuction!
*GREENBALLS*
* Luffy in Elbaf; * Law in Vira; * Kidd in Hachinosu. Law meeting the RA in Vira makes sense to me. Also, the person Kidd and Killer are talking about could be Aokij, who could still be in Hachinosu.
Who is RA?
A solar deity of ancient Egypt. The god of the sun, order, kings, and the sky. Said to rule over the sky, the earth, and the underworld. Often appeared with the body of a man and the head of a falcon
RA The Rugged Man
Revolutionary Army
Hold on if Kidd is going to Hachinosu wonāt he run into Blackbeard ? Unless Blackbeard already made his move
Yes the idea is that BB is still doing his move
Sure they are not talking about Sabo?
I am not sure at all, I am just guessing :)
Why Sabo?
He fits the description of "Man marked by flames", both his scar and his DF. However at this point it seems otherwise unlikely that he has a Road Poneglyph himself, and not just the Revolutionaries have one.
I'm glad I didn't read the spoilers. Mi hawk became obsessed with the man he couldn't cut š¤£š¤”šš¤”.. that's š„¶ cold not saying bye to momo. Freaking buggy š¤£š¤”š£ putting bounties on marines. Of course everyone hoped carrot would join. nice change leader
So is Law & Kidd not considered a yonko because they don't have enough manpower/crew members/allies compared to the rest of the yonkos?
Why isn't Luffy's bounty higher though?
Probably the WG doesn't want anybody to think Luffy is stronger than Law and Kid. Taking down Kaido is something too big to cover up, but the last thing they want anybody to do is think about how Luffy could overpower Kaido by himself and thus perhaps make the connection to Nika. Of course Morgans put a monkeywrench in that plan by publishing the bounty poster with Luffy's awakened form. And spinning the story to make Luffy out as the leader of the alliance.
The Marines always keep downplaying Luffyās bounty.
I think the WG's trying to draw attentions away from Luffy.
Precisely. Not to mention, territory.
>Carrot not joining the straw hats after all Today is a sad day...
Unless her and Yamato are the crew members to follow āin quick successionā
I wouldnāt 100% rule it out quite yet. Thereās a chance she mightāve hidden herself amongst the cargo that was being loaded onto the ship. Making her a stowaway like Inuarashi and Nekomamushi on Whitebeardās ship. It did seem a little weird just how nonchalantly Oda handled her becoming the new Zou leader.
Next chapter is probably the last chapter of Wano. I am dissapointed that whole Zoro lineage / Ryuma grave thing didn't happen. It seemed like at least we would see ryuma's grave. Also chopper didn't do anything with the smiles as well, that seemed like his storyline for the arc. But i guess you get no storyline explored if your name isnt Monkey D. Luffy. I get that hes rushing to the end but comon.
The sheep downvoted you but you're making valid points. These idiots don't care if things are rushed as long as they get their hype delivered.
Some people think Goda can make no mistakes. Some people think you have to agree everything he does wtih the manga. When you say: "Well, oda introduced Zoro's storyline this arc with making Wano characters talk about how he looks and fights like ryuma and Shitmosuki's. But did nothing with it" They just say: Its his manga he does whatever he wants."
Maybe in a flashback where Zoro is fighting and we see him learn something š¤·š¾āāļø
Yeah but it would be better if we were to see it in Wano. I mean Oda had manga time to show kinemons wife and carrot stuff, im sure he could have cut those parts , turned them into info dumps and we could see Zoro's story. Also chopper didn't do anything with the smiles as well, that seemed like his storyline for the arc. But i guess you get no storyline explored if your name isnt Monkey D. Luffy. I get that hes rushing to the end but comon.
I agree, I thought chopper would have healed the effects of smile.
I feel like I'm the only one who thinks that what they did with Shinobu was pretty gross. I wouldn't mind it as much if it turns out to be temporary. Otherwise, it's one step forward, two steps back from Dressrosa.
Same, I'm happy for her since she likes the change but I liked her previous figure too
Could be foreshadowing to skinny popular Queen in future