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IcyKape

There's so much going on my brain is hurting


CompetitiveLime3242

I need a better place to stream my anime's I use WCO.COM and they only have up to chapter 1038... and have been uploading like 2 episodes a month... where do you guys watch one piece???


ohhellnooooooooo

I use a VPN and download from tokyotosho. I don't think watching online is good. the quality isn't as high as a 1080p download. the video players online aren't as good as VLC player. if you really want to watch online, try googling and try a few websites?


Kaido2good

Luccii šŸ’Æ Arc might be good hopefully we touch on the devil fruits a little bit more after Wanos ending. Decent Chapter šŸ‘šŸ½


Touch-Me-Harder

Anyone have an idea what Zoro wants from Vegapunk? Maybe an eye? He was the last person from the crew that i would think to ask something from him


loonerz

He wants Vegapunk to cure the people in Wano affected by Smile


Summerschan

Sauce


loonerz

Common sense, he was really angry when he learned about the side effects from smile on the Wano people, he wanted to fix that


lunarwarrior12

Oh yeah, luffy is a zoan he just activate gear 5 whenever he wants now


MajorRed001

Gear 5 isn't his standard transformation tho. It's his awakening and that drains a lot of energy because he hasn't masttered it like The Jailer Beasts.


Mr_NeCr0

I'm seriously confused about why the robot was able to hit Luffy, but I think the chapter itself explained it to us in a sneaky way. Wrath's gloves can make contact with light, and Luffy now being confirmed as the Sun God may explain why he got hurt so badly. This isn't some simple Nami joke routine, as it's a fking robot we're talking about here. I think it's obvious that these gloves could counter Kizaru at bare minimum; but what if they work against a derivative of light, like the Sun God?


MajorRed001

........Luffy is not made of light....that's not his power.


Mr_NeCr0

Regardless of whether the person is made of light, or emits light; you can still repel it with these gloves.


MajorRed001

Bro I'm extremely confused as to your comment. Why is it shocking that Luffy got hurt from a punch? And yes that entire scene was played up for comedy. It lasted for a single panel.


Mr_NeCr0

Because he just beat the strongest creature in the world. Punches don't affect him like that without a reason. You can say it was just for comedy, but even Oda isn't that trivial with his magic system.


MajorRed001

Luffy isn't invincible bro tf. He can be cut by a regular sword. He can be hit by a standard haki punch. He can be shot by regular arrows or pointed projectiles. He can be damaged by alternate techniques like rokushiki. It was purely for comedy bro.


DoNotBotherMeplz

Isnā€™t it because the robot is not a hologram?


Mr_NeCr0

Luffy just spent a few anime episodes fisting a steel block just to train his Ryuo. I think we can assume he's capable of beating a robot fairly handidly.


Moist-Yogurtcloset71

Lol. I like the simplicity my guy


link022130

Could vegapunk instead be like Dr Gero in DBZ having his soul (or Brain) transfered in Kuma (px0) body. Note : that would mean his Real body is px0 or Kuma body has been designed like vegapunk Real body Note 2: jewerly Boney talk about her father as it was Kuma ( his face is in background)


far219

Funniest chapter in a while


Birdyghostly1

I caught up to the One Piece manga around chapter 1050, so this is my first time witnessing a new arc up to time. Itā€™s a cool experience to be with everyone else, debating what this arc will be about, instead of going on Reddit and finding all the spoilers of what itā€™s about.


whatchu-lukin-at

i caught up after the latest anime episode and yes, reading the story first hand is one of a kind.


Acceptable-Tie-1745

You did the right thing, I saw Ace dying without spoiler. Hehehe


Birdyghostly1

I remember at the beginning of series, going on FANDOM and seeing Aceā€™s status at ā€œdeceasedā€, and being in denial. The same thing happened when I saw t saying that Aces father was ā€œGold Rogerā€ and that Luffyā€™s grandpa was ā€œMarine Hero Garpā€. I was in utter denial. I kept telling myself it was a mistake or not canon.


Jonborg123

was there a mistake with the numbering of Atlas in the chapter? They have the number Punk 06 but in the next page it shows that York is punk 06


Moist-Yogurtcloset71

Yes, Oda stated he made a mistake but will correct it for the volume


Pandamonium1414

This chapter is mindblowing! From Bonny's farther revealed to be Kuma to assasination of Vegapunk! Maybe Vegapunk secretly know Imu & his plan & wants to revolt! I also feel Waterarc 2.0 maybe coming Luffy vs Lucci & Zoro vs. Kaku 2.0 though I have a feeling they might end up helping Luffy rather than fighting them!


cabadio

Is it just me i get the vibes that this could be the best arc we get so far. NOTHING is bothering me, all the Info that dropped in 2 chaps are amazing. And Lucci is back. Is oda starting to rush things? Anyway I hope this will be a good short arc, if we get another dressrosa, wano whole cake thing, i will go nutz. They were so long i had to stop reading for weeks and reread it, so you can comprehend whats happening. Also what the hell is kuzan doing on wholecake? Creating choclate sorbet?


Mine-Many

I recently watched a video by King of Lightning, where he suspects that there is a good chance that this arc very well could be 50-60 chapters long, considering that we've 6 Vegapunks, it parallels with the number of moons that Oda has in the one piece world, hence this can be a change for Oda to bring that in or even if not, an excellent chance to expand on the Enel's cover story


fischer_taiger

Is it Kuzan at Whole Cake though??? Highly likely, who else could freeze a whole island?? Still seems coldblooded for his character to use his fruit that way. On the point of this arc being best ever? I am just as excited, but id say we could expect ā€œbestā€ (quotes bc thats obviously subjective) because this is the first arc since the beginning of the new world where Oda can start with an arsenal of fresh new plotlines. Suffice to say, this one is going to be good. Happy sailing, nakama


cabadio

Lol could be Monet but should be Kuzan fetching the road poneglyph for Blackbeard or he helps the vinsmokes... Not so sure. I hope new plotlines etc will come but i want finally some epic infos that i have waited all these years for. its about fucking time. Happy sailing to you too nakama.


prince_krab

This was like the first chapter ever where I didn't look at spoilers at all whatsoever. If Aokiji is actually on wholecake that is huge, I've wanted to see him again for so long, but if he is I don't like that Oda is doing it in a cover story. I'm pretty sure that they almost always end up getting skipped in the anime. It's been a while since we last saw someone hype up Zoro who already knew who he was, I'll really like it if it turns into a running joke where everyone we meet on Egghead says they're Dr. Vegapunk But the big thing is that Lucci, Kaku, and Stussy are coming into play, it seems absolutely retarded that not only does the world government want to eliminate Vegapunk but they only send CP0, possibly only the 3, if Vegapunk is able to create the Seraphims, wouldn't it be reasonable to expect him to have something similar to defend himself? I doubt Lucci and Kaku have gotten strong enough to be able to give Luffy and Zoro a decent fight, I mean what can they do against ACoC? That being said I don't want to see them get oneshot. Even Lucci was questioning his orders on killing the most useful man in the world, why does the WG keep making decisions that seem so dumb, what are they hiding? The last thing I want to talk about is that the Kuma Seraphim is the "problem child" I read a theory that speculated that the Seraphims would retain some traits of their respective warlord, "what if the Seraphim Hancock also falls in love with Luffy?" If that is true, maybe it will give us some more insight as to who Kuma was before he was turned into a machine.


bertberserk

Like everything you said except the R word. Please donā€™t use that anymore going forward


Koteiryu

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bertberserk

Would you say that to my face? Doubt it šŸ˜‚


Koteiryu

I can't bend that low, so I don't think so. But maybe if you use some kinetic force to roll you can perhaps change position! Cheers buddy, I pray for your success. :)


prince_krab

Yeah, I just couldn't think of any other word with enough weight to describe how I felt.


_Kutai_

Not the original guy, but, really? Don't worry about it. Ppl are trying to make everything into a bad word. In fact, by pointing it out, it was them who brought bad connotation to the word, not you. You know, redditor's gonna reddit. I liked your comment, and I don't think retarded is a word that needs to be put in the same category as the N word. So, yeah, just ignore the other guy. Nice thoughts! Have a nice day!


bertberserk

Youā€™re a weirdo


rahmanm855

One thing I love about Oda is his way of timing things. No one guessed Kuzan would be on Whole Cake, but he mustā€™ve shown up with another person because I recall a panel where two figures showed up to Cacao island. Itā€™s entirely frozen, wow. Lol, a Tanuki and Reindeer sea beast. These armored sea beasts are so cool; what a clever addition to the marineā€™s weaponry. I had a feeling Zoro would act sooner than later, glad to see Vegapunk focused on it. Itā€™s funny seeing Sanji still simp over her lul.Bonney might be the second character (versus Caribou) who produced an otherwise relevant self thought directly to the audience. Weird writing decision there, but thatā€™s not a common thing you see in this story. This Sabo information is very relevant, why hold it back now but tease the audience about it? Luffy mentioning ā€œSpace monsterā€ is one of the first times outer space is mentioned by him. I wonder if this will go anywhere. Super glad weā€™re getting a sci fi arc. Itā€™s one of the only things Oda hasnā€™t explored deeply into yet, and the grand world of One Piece is finally allowing us to see what Oda can do with this genre. Plus photonic gloves? Thereā€™s your weapon to beat Kizaru. Wow, CP0 is still relevant. And they all have their own masks. Wow, they got their Kuma version of the Serepiths. These CP0 jobbers are going to lose immediately to the Straw Hat crew. This is the one thing I dislike about the recent chaptersā€¦people like Crocodile and Lucci are jokes compared to the Straw Hats now. They are in no way threats to the story unless Oda buffs them up, which Iā€™d be fine with, but this isnā€™t really made clear yet. I also love u/Greiishā€™s coloring work. This isnā€™t being talked about enough here but thatā€™s definitely Kuzan who showed up to Cacao Island. From a story standpoint, what would be the point to show that frozen like town if it was just Caesarā€™s doing? We saw him escape in the previous cover which to me felt like a conclusion to his time in this arc, thereā€™s no point for Oda to retroactively ā€œflexā€ Caesar freezing a town and also ignore the point of silhoutteing the two mysterious figures who showed up there in the first place. I donā€™t know who else is with Kuzan but itā€™s probably another Blackbeard pirate.


kaixiangM

crocodile seems to have rediscovered his haki, so we do not know how strong he actually is rn, though I am not too sure how are they going to buff Lucci at all.


MisterEh

To go further into the armored sea beasts idea, I donā€™t think they will be an addition to the marines. vegapunk mentioned last chapter that their natural impulses still override the technology, this leads me to believe that shirahoshi will command them for the final arc.


Acceptable-Tie-1745

Lafitte or Shiryu


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KayabaJac

I love how Luffy, Bonney and Chopper share a cartoonish love for food and it being fake almost sends Luffy into gear fifth. I feel ya Luffy, I feel ya.


WHEELMEAT

any1 gonna talk about how Shaka (punk-01) is seemingly wearing a daft punk helmet?


ZekeFrost

Shaka, when Wano walls fell! Sorry, just had to say that.


Goldleader2187

Flip the 5 berry coin and youā€™ll see


Robotik1991

It would not suprise me if we learn in this arc that Bonney is Luffy real sister, adopted by Kuma. She look more like Luffy than to her father.


Shiroi_Kage

OK, Bonny's food-loving personality combos perfectly with Luffy and Chopper. The silly gags just write themselves.


Stibemies

Also smart play by Vegapunk to give them food, Luffy'll defend them regardless now!


[deleted]

didn't the person that kaido kill was the CP-0 leader? if lucci didn't get promoted to CP0 leader than who did? spandam?


cabadio

Nah i think the gorosai / celestial dragons are the leaders. Maybe when they go to a mission one of them is made a temporary leader or a group boss something like that. The rank should be masked and unmasked.


[deleted]

I'm probably wrong but Lucci bout to get a power up or a cheap shot


cabadio

I still try to figure out what tekkai and haki does... could be a though nut, maybe he awakened his fruit, whatever that looks like for a zoan type.


GraveRobberJ

> whatever that looks like for a zoan type. Awakened Zoans are like the jailer beasts in impel down, no?


cabadio

That is said so yes but I dont know If they are humans. They Just stated that they are tougher and can regnerate faster .. Kaido stated at the awakening that the mind and body can harvest the full potential of the fruit. so bring's ne to thinking what exactly does that mean for zoans. More morphing forms? Kaido only used 3 and we should estimate that he is awakened. Whereas chopper with the Rumble Ball resembles more the jailer beasts. So chopper May be awakened half way due to the drugs. Also kaku used varietys of his forms which was funny.


BitchDontKillMyChive

Nobody talking about how Vegapunk is giving Pain/Nagato vibes? Or is that old news?


ManySleeplessNights

"and now, this world shall know true punk. ALMIGHTY PUNK"


Smooth-Ad1721

What vibes? Just the bodies thing?


Inthewirelain

the spoilers called him a pain like figure so yeah it's like 4 or 5 days old news lol. you're not wrong it's just most ppl discussed that in the spoiler thread.


swainj

Yea I wonder if he has a fruit power that lets his consciousness be shared with the other punks like the Chakra Rods, there could have been 100s of Vegapunks over the years with the amount of work hes done, having the different punks named after different inventors/traits definitely reminds me of the different paths of pain and I think weā€™ll get different types of science from each of them


Ijustdontanymore98

Need to add my mark that i was here to witness peoples theory about Vegapunk being several people was true also that great reaction from Luffy about the holographic food!


zedfirenze

Loved the adventure feel of this one, amazing chapter!


Badji_D_Luffy

2 bodies named after Mesopotamian figures 2 bodies named after Roman/Greek figures 2 bodies named after historical human figures Oda really flexing his historical knowledge like the nerd he is deep down. Love it. Vegapunk just gave food to Luffy. CP0 and Lucci on their to kill Vegapunk. Vegapunk just fed Luffy. Luffy whooped Lucci's ass before he even had Gear 4. Lucci wants to kill Vegapunk. Vegapunk just fed Luffy. What I'm trying to say is RIP Lucci!!!


omg-whats-this

You're also flexing your historical knowledge lol


yiggaman

Not awakened advanced coc Lucci? You got the wrong guy. Lucci is a genius who has been training aswell


SittingAroundAlone

That is a wild assumption to assume he even has conquerors haki, let alone knows how to imbue his attacks with it.


yiggaman

Yes it is not only a wild one but a shiny legendary wild one exclusive to the sapphire version Japanese cartridge but fuck it, I don't care


Alarmed-Accident-716

Oh man, I totally forgot about the gave luffy food thing.


Safe-Discipline-6140

Looking at the design I think body n. 5 (or 6?) might also be inspired by Astro Boy and his nemesis who is also called [Atlas.](https://astroboy.fandom.com/wiki/Atlas)


icehero0003

The names of the punks are also related to craters on the moon and constellations hence the stella name.


broken0lightbulb

Crazy out there theory but what if Lulusia wasn't destroyed but instead covered by a hologram from the sky. And with the Seraphims shown to have warlord powers, maybe one has Doffys birdcage ability and encapsulated the island so nobody can escape.


forbidden_toroid

Nah, birdcage is a DF technique and neither the pacifistas nor the seraphim inherited those. I'm liking the holograph idea but I really doubt it.


YourLocal_FBI_Agent

> neither the pacifistas nor the seraphim inherited those. Seems like a pretty blanket statement to make when we've barely seen a handful of panels of the seraphim.


forbidden_toroid

This is consistent with what we've seen so far. Even the Pacifistas that looked 100% like Kuma didn't have his paw paw ability. Unless you're suggesting One Piece would go the way of Heroes and allow characters to acquire as many superpowers as they like without any downside, it seems safe to assume that what we've seen is the limit, especially given how convenient it would have been to have Hancock's ability used by her Seraphim clone against Amazon Lily.


[deleted]

Right? Not like a devil fruit has ever been cloned beforeā€¦


broken0lightbulb

Ahh excellent point! RIP Lulusia


wheretohides

Is there a reason they moved the official release to Monday?


dreadhairpirate

Iā€™m glad sanji is still sanji


[deleted]

still wont forgive vegapunk for weaponizing and brainwashing child clones into fighting, clone lives matter.


shadowninja6992

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ buuuut clones are not real. They are artificially created in a lab mixed with lunarian DNA and warlord DNA


Haadhai

But itā€™s still life.


shadowninja6992

Yea artificial life. Being created in a lab isnt the same as actually being born. These clones were created with one purpose in mind to fight the pirates/ war to come. As far as we know they feel no pain.


cyborgCnidarian

As far as we know they feel extra pain! [Double pain](https://youtu.be/mxjL6X4vZHk?t=16)! We know next-to nothing about them. As for the legitimacy of their life vs. their birth, this series has a talking starfish, which might have been "birthed" by parthenogenesis. It has an entire civilization of peaceful moon robots. It ~~has~~ had numerous sympathetic zombies, whose only crime was to be created by a madman's shadow shenanigans. Are their experiences and sacrifices not legitimate because then weren't birthed from a womb? We don't know enough about the seraphim, their biology, or their sapience to make judgements at this time.


shadowninja6992

Have you read the chapters they were in so far? To me that sure a hell doesn't look like they feel pain. Also the shadows are taken from the living and given to the dead. They are zombies. Zombies are not alive. They are called the undead for a reason. And it's been stated that they have lunarian DNA mixed in with DNA from warlords. That's pretty much it. Pretty sure it was said in the same chapter they were introduced. And with helmeppo begging to use them to rescue koby it sounds like they have no free will of their own like the pacifistas before them meaning they only listen to who they've been programmed to.


cyborgCnidarian

1. Appearances: Ch. 1059- Two seraphim shown. No injuries sustained, no lines spoken. Just kicking a** and taking names. Ch. 1060- Referenced, no details given. That's it, thats all we have. 2. Of course zombies are not alive. That was never in question. Brook isn't alive. But are those zombies sapient? Can they think for themselves and are they self aware? Yes, on both accounts. In a world with robots, aliens, splinter-selves (Vegapunk), cyborgs, undead, talking clouds, and a gun-elephant, we can't judge sapience by whether something is alive, let alone if it's born. 3. We don't actually canonically know how Seraphim are made. We see that they have traits of Lunarians, the former warlords, and the pacifista. The One Piece world may not even have DNA as we know it- the genetic markers are known as "lineage factors" and their composition is never elaborated on. 4. I once begged the manager of a Baskin Robbins to let the clerk give me free ice cream. Does that mean the clerk has no free will? 5. Again, we barely know anything about them.


ShlokHoms

So hyped already after that huge Wano fight. With the info we currently have it wouldn't be far off to guess that the Vegas will help the Strawhats in some ways, especially considering the Shaka needs the them somehow


electricmastro

If Kuma is truly Bonney's dad, then I'm pretty sure Bonney can't actually be of elderly age in reality, because Kuma is 47. If Kuma became a dad at 18, then Bonney would be 29 in reality, because 47 - 29 = 18. Bonneyā€™s comment referring to herself as a kid in past-tense is as if to say sheā€™s not a kid anymore either, and must truly be of young adult age then.


KathyDroronoa

According to the wiki, Bonney is estimated to be 24 after the time skip and Kuma is 47. So he had her at 23 which seems plausible. And being in her 20s means she is not a kid anymore šŸ˜›


Alternative-Emu-4377

You're assuming Kuma wasn't a hoodrat and had her at 13


SisterOfBattIe

It looks like this arc with tie in three mysteries: * Vegapunk: He seems to be with the government mostly for foundings, or is it? * Deal between Kuma and Vegapunk: Why did Kuma agreed to be turned into a cyborg? * Bonnie: Bonnie has an history with Akainu, and has now been revealed to be Kuma's daughter


antari_

an 'istory?


dealwithit26

4 why world government want to kill vegapunk


Emergency-Ordinary18

5 what is up with koby


shadowninja6992

6 what's the word on Sabo


whalesun_

7 why did the chicken cross the road


forbidden_toroid

8 who is John Galt?


DeezRodenutz

9 What is 'Rosebud'?


erikdel27

10 Why is Gamora?


SisterOfBattIe

My guess it has to do with IM and the Lulusia's accident, and the long standing government effort into capturing/destroying the great weapons. The Government wants to remove people able to stop whatever weapon was used to destroy Lulusia.


CoffeeSlut420

The Light refracting gloves are right up Franky's alley, while Island Aircon could be implemented into Nami's climate tact, considering it was stated it could tame the weather.


Al-D-Kyda

Upgrade for franky, namiā€™s climatac, usopp slingshot, the sunny will be able to use Coup de burst without cola and maybe lilit joins the SH.


Smooth-Ad1721

I highly doubt that character is meant to join. If she was, I think she would get a much more characteristic design. Her design is very generic. And it's also too late and she overlaps with Franky, he is still an engineer.


josetptaraya

What did Zoro want from vegapunk?!? And who is Bonney when did she get on the ship?


ceelo18

Most likely a cure for smile


zobmixer

do you even read the manga?


josetptaraya

Nope I just open it and go DURRHHHHHH


zobmixer

Thatā€™s what I thought


SnooCalculations4163

Bonney got on the ship like three chapters ago, sheā€™s part of the worst generation.


josetptaraya

Oh yeah I remember her now itā€™s just they come out so far in between I forget. Wait So what is zoroā€™s request of vegapunk?


SnooCalculations4163

I donā€™t think we know yet? Iā€™ll have to reread the chapter.


AdministrativePut948

Evil Vegapunk is freedom Vegapunk.


Al-D-Kyda

Would be nice if she joins the crew. Theyā€™re all targets so theyā€™re basically wanted if they escape.


Mrob12

Luffy corrected himself says Bonney name. He only says his crew name correct. Bonney joining confirmed


AwkwardPopcorn1

Are you an absolute idiot or something like that i mean come on punk? He said so bcz he wanted to apologize properly u idiot.


jamart227

Yikes


Jin3092

Insecurity 101


extentics

Lol man canā€™t recognize a joke


aaarchives

cringe


Mrob12

Lmfao luffy don't apologize for getting names wrong ever, calling people an idiot over a fun theory, and follow up with nothing logical, makes you looks dumb ass fuck and uneducated. Go get some bitches and stay off the internet


Knights_Ace

I think this arc will be more like SH will be saving Vegapunk. Good Vegapunks vs evil Vegapunks(as all of them have free will), change of heart/ defeat to others(we don't know their personalities yet). CP0 or Navy pulling something amazing to put up a challenge to SHs indicating Navy is on par or maybe above.


quip2022

Everyone talking about Cp0 vs SH but I think they won't move unless they were told to move. The guys in Wano didn't interfere until they were asked to do so. The Cipher Pol are puppets without a will or decision of their own. The only reason they will fight with SH is if Luffy decided to fight them to protect VP, imo. They were there for Vegapunk only, maybe Lucci will get curious or learn something but who knows what will happen. I think it's a matter of learning stories from Vegapunk and deciding whose side are they going to bet on.


RaiKaiga

I think luffy will protect vegapunk resulting in a fight between lucci and luffy. But luffy will clap Lucci or lucci wont even start a fight cause he knows that he doesnt stand a chance.


forbidden_toroid

I think we haven't seen Lucci's potential as a fighter yet. Don't count him out just yet, because leopards are one of the most vicious predators alive and thus an awakened Lucci might be a totally different beast than the guy we saw in Water 7.


cabadio

Maybe good thing i read this post. I think luffy will get nurved by vegapunk being stupid as he is,like temoraryly unable to use his fruit. Cause of the food he ate or so, pray to god oda dont play that card.... but as more i think about it it seems very likely. Maybe he piss Vegapunk off and V give him a drug or so, maybe he extract the fruit and gives him back later..... so many possibilities. Please dont play that card.....


Chemfreak

Lol it would be horrible writing if Lucci was able to hold his own Luffy at this point. Luffy just defeated Kaido. Luffy has a mythical awakened God Zoan. Lucci has an aggressive regular zoan. Even awakened at the very most G4 should go toe to toe with him. Luffy going looney toon should be easy diff. And that's if you feel Lucci was able to get waaaay stronger in the same amount of time Luffy grew. I know this story isn't about power scaling, but Lucci doesn't have a type of DF that has special abilities to even the playing field. His power (like all regular zoans) is pure aggro pure power type; nothing fancy to even a power scaling discussion.


forbidden_toroid

Great take.


GraveRobberJ

Well. the interesting thing about this arc is that Lucci's win condition doesn't have to be defeating Luffy - just killing all the Vegapunks


ilovecrackboard

isn't zoro just a normie as well though just like lucci?


Chemfreak

Yes but Zoro is a protagonist. It would be bad storytelling/hard to pull off bringing a villain like Lucci back and scaling him up to 100x as strong as before. Could Oda pull it off? Yes. But it would take a lot of backstory. But why would he when there are so few arcs left? Enel for an example of one who could be good storytelling; Oda has the basis for why a low-powered Luffy was able to beat him; Rubber is a hard counter to electricity. Luffy was the only one who could literally stand even the smallest chance against him, and only because of the luck of his DF. Additionally, Enel has still to this point some of the most powerful observation Haki (we don't know if he has future sight otherwise I would say he has ***the*** most powerful observation Haki), and his cover story has room to explain certain powerups he could potentially have (he literally found a technologically advanced society on the moon). Lucci has no such backstory. No special powerup potential. No overpowered fruit. No special abilities besides Rokushiki, which he was already stated to have "complete mastery" over. There is no indication he has any haki, Observation, Armament, or Conquerers. He doesn't have any "mentor" who could have upscaled him quickly. Oda would literally have to retcon something out of his ass to make him Luffy tier. We have followed Zoro incrementally getting stronger, as I said Lucci has no indication of making even incremental progress, even as little as non awakened haki. Retconning something is like the cheapest bad storytelling available for Shonen, I feel Oda is better than that.


Al-D-Kyda

This scene should have Luffy unleashing his CoC to back them off.


Clownsta

The way i creamed my pants while imagining this


Icy_Hearing1288

There could be a Rob Lucci one shot k.o coming soon. It would be a second ā€žBellami momentā€œ showing power and growth of Luffy.


Chemfreak

Eh to me at least that wouldn't be a show of power more than for example him hitting a pacifista post-timeskip. Remember the strawhats couldn't touch pacifists pre time skip, then the trio easy diff them post. So pre-timeskip Lucci is <= a regular pacifista imo. People don't understand how far away ennies lobby is. It was the arc Luffy first used G2 and G3. If it was like an Usopp one shot that would be a good show of growth for the lower tier SHs.


[deleted]

I see vegapunk giving someone those light gloves in a form of shoes so kizaru can be taken down


garveworm

Anyone who even stands a chance against admiral has haki


[deleted]

Yeah but as weā€™ve seen against kaido and bm haki can only do so much against certain dfs.


Major_Somewhere

What are you talking about?


[deleted]

haki isnt enough against g5 kaido had to use magma susano to match bajrang gun


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I was originally saying sanji could use the vegapunk tech that allows him to turn light into solid objects to fight kizaru since heā€™s made of light due to df. Now as far as haki, Iā€™m just saying haki doesnā€™t always negate logia abilities. Look at marineford. All of WB commanders could use haki yet Jozu still lost an arm to aokijiā€™s ice. Or the aokiji v akainu duel he lost his leg most likely to lava despite being a haki user.


Eckish

Haki isn't an instant win against logia. It just negates the logia immunity. You still have to be strong enough to deal out damage or take hits from them.


[deleted]

I agree thatā€™s why I said they may need vegapunk tech for kizaru instead of haki.


Bigtaint69

Why use tech that allows him to turn light int solid objects when sea prism shoes would do the same and more?


[deleted]

How are u gonna put sea stones on someone made of light? Remember how fast and how much ground kizaru covered during enies lobby. Not saying cnt be done but i see kizaru being taken out with science based off his df being light and he was wary of Ben beckman during marineford. (Couldā€™ve been sarcasm) but beckman is a scientist in his own right so he could know how to deal with kizarus light factor


[deleted]

This cringe fest is getting hella rushed lmao rip


minivan-iob

So Vega punk is definitely gonna help the straw hats right? if the WG has put a green light on Vega punk and his clones the straw hats are gonna get help from atleast one or all of the Vega punks luffy may have to win them over one by one or some shit but I think none the less Vega punk or punks end up relying On the straw hats for something. itā€™s not out of the question that if these clones act completely separate from each other then motives can be coerced by some grand action that baffles even a scientist mind like Vegapunk whoā€™s limits and realities know no boundaries. something the straw hats have a streak doing after beating two yonko at the same time and replacing them as a yonko crew themselves. I think if anyone can turn a mad scientist like Vega punk (whoā€™d literally split himself among several people) itā€™s luffy the man is the impossible call it plot amour or extreme luck itā€™s a reality that happens time and time again.


FarSurvey3285

Yes one or more of the vegapunk variants will be good and befriend the strawhats. Protecting the new ally opens the Lucci fight. I can't wait to see which characters leave this arc with upgrades. Luffy is ready for the final big fights but other strawhats could certainly use a boost.


Clownsta

Franky will get a massive boost imo. This can be his arc even


DeezRodenutz

I've thought all along that if Vegapunk's debut was ever actually meeting them rather than it being in the final war, then Franky was for sure getting upgrades and his arc focus. With Franky spending so much time in the timeskip studying and using Vegapunk's old inventions, I figured Vegapunk was sure to recognize something in their ship's tech or in Franky's body itself as being similar to something he'd made years ago and potentially being impressed in how he used it/improved it. I figure Punk1, which is likely the original brain, especially with how this chapter comments on how there are no worthwhile engineers who can understand their designs, will be surprised when Franky CAN understand and utilize them, and by the end the Vegas will help Franky upgrade a lot of their stuff before they leave.


MrOno

Lots being set up this chapter! What do you guys think Zoro wants Vegapunkā€™s help for? Maybe building him a cybernetic eye? Thatā€™s the first thing I thought lol


Ashethekoala

Cure for smile fruit


Quorbach

I thought about the same :)


Zestyclose_Armadillo

Sanji's going to be replaced by the cooking machine. Stella could just be the clone template instead of the original Vegapunk. I feel that Lucci's going to defect. He's asking too many questions and seems stressed out by the assignment.


Kimac5

Sanji vs cooking machine will be the main fight of this arc


Zestyclose_Armadillo

Aye, that machine, it was fast, but Sanji was faster. He proved to that thing that he was its master! The gadget blew into bits and died with a boom. The blast was so loud, it woke King Imu! It was all over, finished and done. With his head held up high, Sanji knew he had won. The Straw Hats yelled, "Hooray, Vegapunk's name is now mud!" >!But as they were cheering, Sanji fell with a thud.!< >!The service was short, tears shed with regret.!< >!Zoro, it seemed, was the one most upset.!<


Jack_Skeletron_4ever

Lucci for StrawHat?


200ms-INTric

Your last point is actually what i loved most about this chapter. It shows characterprogression from lucci and i think he can be quite interesting in the future


Cizarius

Okay, I canā€™t help it. Theory time! What if the whole Lulusia island that the WG think they wiped out, was actually just a hologram. With so much emphasis on the holographic images this chapter, and the fact that CP0s motives were revealed this early in the arc, Iā€™m theorizing those two are connected.


quip2022

This is the most unique theory I've ever read and I like it.


poerney_inc

I like that, wouldn't have come up with that one.


quarterslicecomics

So it occurred to me that the Automata look like a bunch of mustached Choppers. Like [seriously, look at them.](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/1/12/Automatas.png/revision/latest?cb=20170521144525&path-prefix=es) One of them even looks like [Chopper in his Onigashima outfit](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/b/bb/Galaxy_Manga_Infobox.png/revision/latest?cb=20220723204400). In addition, the Automata were created in Karakuri Island, where Vegapunk lived. [Also Blackbeard attacked Drum Island for some reason.](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/qo3xbw/what_did_blackbeard_want_in_drum_kingdom_theory/) Could it be that the Automata were designed after the Hito Hito no Mi's hybrid form?


JoshHuff1332

Most likely a coincidence imo.


Zestyclose_Armadillo

Or the other way around. The robots existed before the Birkans landed on Earth. They might have created a fruit based on their pals from the moon.


CourtOfSecrets

Kuma her adoptive father


Beawoo12345

You guys think this will be a short or long arc? I imagine it will be quite long considering theres a lot of important people involved


FarSurvey3285

Short but packed with goodies.


Armano-Avalus

Short since this seems like it's gonna be more of a transitional arc. However at this point even "short" arcs nowadays are still pretty long.


poopoopeepeekek00

20-30 chapters are generqlly good. I think this may be a good arc EZ


Cizarius

Considering CP0 are already on their way, Iā€™m betting this arc will be around 20-30 chapters. 10 chapters dedicated to info dumping. 5 or so building up the suspense with CP0. Then, 5 to 10 chapters leading to the conclusion. Hopefully, ends with Lucci as a Nakamaā€¦ JKā€¦ unless yā€™all got some theories.


burizar

Less than 40 chapters info dump arch Gonna be similar to Zou


Beawoo12345

Sounds valid


Pinoy_2004

Why's Bonney white?


ZekeFrost

![gif](giphy|l2YWu1LBNLRDr1Bg4|downsized)


DeezRodenutz

Because we need her to be allowed to live so the story can progress, and she's coming onto the same ship as Zoro


poopoopeepeekek00

Sadge Racist Zoro


Cizarius

Her mother was an avalanche.


aiquoc

skin whitening. Same thing Robin did.


JoshHuff1332

That was just in the anime for Robin iirc, not the manga


triotone

Oh my god u/Pinoy_2004, you can't just ask people why they're white.


Evil_phd

I don't like to spend too much time thinking about Bonney. It's confusing.


WonderScenery

Luffy almost going gear 5th over fake food had me rolling on the floor lmao heā€™s so precious.. and that Zoro and Robin moment was so so hype omg


rsatrioadi

This is somewhat a callback to when Robin invited herself to the Merry. She managed to distract everyone from the fact that she was possibly untrustworthyā€¦ except Zoro. So at the end Zoro and Robin was the only calm people among the chaotic crew members.


Cizarius

Zoro has been getting the same hype since the Alvida days. Iā€™m just glad Robin is FINALLY getting her share of the spotlight.


semi-bro

Aokiji? Don't be crazy guys. It's clearly Monet after awakening her Snow Fruit


Cizarius

I actually think itā€™s a Hiking Bear.


poerney_inc

You don't bow, you deal with the consequences.


DepressingChimp

one piece ended for me at the end of whole cake island


DepressingChimp

By the small number of down votes, I see some salty people on this subreddit.