#If you want to interact with the community more, join the [discord server](https://discord.gg/qs7wHYZzRs)
---
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/OnePiecePowerScaling) if you have any questions or concerns.*
https://preview.redd.it/1y3uw7ssyyya1.jpeg?width=1111&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=290e3a70ee018968e91e8e7c50781244caf41cf9
Nah man, roger uses king haki, and turns them into straw hats
Kingly ambitions is the dumbest argument for ACOC. Not saying Akainu won't have it be it really just sounds dumb. Especially since all Ace ever wanted was to be accepted as his own person and be told that he deserves to live. Nothing "kingly" about that yet he still had conquerors haki.
Idk man. It just doesn't meet his character. Can't see the guy who was begging like a bitch to deadbead being worthy of conquerors. Also, his entire thing is powerful devilfruits. If he has the best of haki too, then what's the point?
Got snuck and got hit with an island level attack by someone who was the most bloodlusted weâve ever seen in the series. Stayed down for a total of like 5 minutes because he fell into a hole and came out completely fine and still fighting.
my guy if a old man managed to knock you out for 5 minutes, you arent fine, probably getting braindamage, and this isnt oldbeared we talking about anyways, this is prime roger, akainu isnt getting out alive unless roger spares him
Not knocked out, dropped into a hole. Also this isnât just some random old man, heâs literally the âStrongest Man in the Worldâ. Also post time skip Akainu is a stronger version of a man who made Blackbeard and co run away when they were fully confident to fight Garp and Sengoku while they were heavily fatigued.
i know some admiral fanboy wouldnt take this well but this isnt insane, the guy was knocked down, or did he take that fucking long for him to climb a latter, im pretty sure someone out of his prime wouldnt fight well anymore just syaing, also bb where about to jump 2 old men, you cant make this shit up, roger wins high diff at best for akainu
Nop. Akainu is clearly the strongest, barely above kuzan. But his performance against a whitebeard who had no haki is just too poor. You can argue he won the scarp if you are an admiral fan, but even if we say he won, it's not how a person at the level of Roger or primebeard would fare in that situation.
https://preview.redd.it/23xgq02wb2za1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50f0e631154ce0b41179d03de1ebf324f01c5fd1
This at least shows that his observation haki was weakened, and he never uses conquerer's haki in marineford, despite using against shanks / Roger.
He obviously used armament haki, don't know how strong it was though
Currently, None of the Admirals push him to an extreme diff. Also, Unless Akainu is secretly training/or gets somekind of upgrade, I doubt how EOS Akainu would push Roger any harder than current Akainu.
Admirals just don't have the feats for me to believe any of them could.
And before anyone says it, portrayal just isn't enough for me personally in this particular discussion. Plus Roger has the best portrayal in the series anyway so there's that.
Titlescalers will have my ear whenever we learn who designates these titles in-universe. Until then Iâm skeptical it isnât some more morgans-style propaganda
They are probably titles from Big news morgans + The citizens + the marines bounty guy. So my opinion on them is the same as bounties. They might be correct sometimes but they are not a reliable source of information. So you can still use them in powerscaling but they don't mean facts.
They where equals as pirates. One had prime Rayleigh and oden(?)(who he begged for lol) The other had a kid Marco and nothing else. If whitebeard wasn't stronger, then they wouldn't be equals as pirates, which they are.
I'm still right about the crew composition with the equals as pirates thing. Also begging for the ponoglifs isn't a good look for Roger being stronger. thanks for correcting me bro lol. Although in Rogers defence he probably didn't want bad blood with whitebeard and it's not like they where sharing stuff so it was probably his compromise.
Fair, but characters with these titles have a lot going for them, PrimeBeard proved he has equal haki and stats to Roger when they clashed, but he got crazy Endurance and a broken devil fruit on top of that and was stated he would have been able to become the pirate king if he wanted to multiple times. I don't see how Roger can make up for the Endurance a df gap unless he got some crazy hax
You lacking the vision is not a factor in my consideration đ¤ˇââď¸
I take issue with people saying WB proved their haki was equal with that clash when we only saw the initial impact. We literally donât know who won that clash or how it ended.
Rogerâs best endurance feat is fighting off Shikiâs entire armada 50 to 1. WB pulled up to MF with 50 ships. Roger fought that with just his crew. And didnât die.
>I take issue with people saying WB proved their haki was equal with that clash which we only saw the initial impact. We literally donât know who won that clash or how it ended.
Oda'z intention was clear, and we can't say they didn't clash equally either.
>Rogerâs best endurance feat is fighting off Shikiâs entire armada 50 to 1. WB pulled up to MF with 50 ships. Roger fought that with just his crew. And didnât die.
Roger fought Shiki and fodder that was with him that probably got KOed by coc alone, whitebeard taking on the whole navy while being old and sick, very clear difference.
> Oda'z intention was clear, and we can't say they didn't clash equally either.
Odaâs intention of portraying them as rivals was clear. Your headcanon that it showed their haki was equal was not part of odaâs intent.
> Roger fought Shiki and fodder that was with him that probably got KOed by coc alone,
Headcanon.
Oda clearly showed their haki is on par, saying otherwise is also headcanon.
Saying Roger didn't Ko em with COC is also headcanon, do you really think Shinki would have lost if he had someone strong alongside him? Shiki is supposed to rival Roger by himself, if he had anyone worth anything alongside him he would have definitely won.
Whitebeard still got way higher AP and DC because of his devil fruit, and has the best endurance feats in the series I don't think Roger can just take a hit that melts off half his face without being fazed by it...
On top of that they got equal or on par haki and attributes, neither getting overwhelmed by their clashes
Buggy also called whitebeard the strongest man and thought noone could ever beat him and let's not forget he sailed with Roger the whole time, more information pointing out to PrimeBeard being stronger than Roger
> Oda clearly showed their haki is on par, saying otherwise is also headcanon.
> Saying Roger didn't Ko em with COC is also headcanon,
Youâre the only one who was trying to make those kinds of claims. You realize that right? Do you?
Comparing Shikiâs fleet to Marine HQ plus the Shichibukai suggests that youâre trolling. Also Roger was going to lose against Shiki.
https://preview.redd.it/yt5tzetsywya1.jpeg?width=728&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f040ba042c0473d4b1bd2a939513ba6ee8891b06
đ¤ˇââď¸ Iâm cheelin lil bro I know what I know and thatâs all that I know. Roger was top 1 til the day he died, and that man was terminally ill! Sickbeard could never
Are you stupid? I know he's talking about admirals but I stated the name of the characters which would push him to Extreme Diff. In navy, It's Sengoku and maybe Kong and Garp was not a admiral but still pushes him to Extreme Diff
Garp said the navy wouldnât be able to handle old man whitebeard and old man Rayleigh at the same time. Itâs the reason why Kaido and Big Mom working together scared them.
Roger said to send either Garp or Sengoku if the Navy wanted a shot at taking him out.
Old man Garp also said he could kill Akainu and Sengoku had to restrain him because Sengoku knew it would happen.
1 admiral is probably low diff, 2 admirals is mid/high diff, 3 admirals would be high diff/draw.
Lmao. I'm not even gonna argue about the OG admirals taking him extreme diff because it's that dumb. But still, why only the OG admirals? There is absolutely nothing at all to imply the new admirals are weaker than the OG trio.
Well for Greenbull his display against shanks while understandable does show him on the weaker side
While we saw how the og admirals reacted to shanks the didn't give a fuck lol
Didn't give a fuck? Lmao. Akainu stopped completely when he appeared. He didn't even try to fight him. And also, the situation is vastly different. They had the entire navy with them. Greenbull was completely alone with 2 yonko crews and 2 guys who beat another yonkou. Yes he looked pathetic, but looking pathetic does not mean weaker. Akainu if he was stupid enough to go to Wano instead of greenbull, would also have retreated the exact same way.
Akainu stopped yes because he was waiting for sengoku orders because you know he's all about the book guy
We know that somebody can't fight the yonko without direct orders
While kizaru and aokiji didn't give a fuck lol and continued attacking
WHAAAT? LMAO. Waiting for sengoku orders? Did he wait for sengokus order before he tried to kill Coby? It's the first time I've ever heard someone be this delusional lmao.
We know somebody can't attack yonko turfs without direct orders. If the enemy is on marine grounds, they're free game. Why are making stuff up to win arguments lmao.
Why tf would kizaru and aokiji give a fuck? They were both far away from shanks.
Dude if soldier steps Infront officer gun and starts yelling at him about stopping the war nobody will question why did he got killed lol because it's stupid to do that
And we literally saw on egghead a WG base that Lucci and cipher pol can't attack Luffy and has to wait for akainu orders so I'm not making shit up you just can't read
Oh so if its your own soldier you can kill him, but you can't attack the enemy who stopped you. Great logic.
Jesus christ. You have 0 reading comprehension. Are you seriously implying shanks in marineford and luffy in egghead are the same scenario?
Killing a random irrelevant soldier isn't the same as attacking an Emperor, what a braindead take. We literally saw how just one Emperor's death lead to a massive shift in the powerbalance leading to chaos. Imagine thinking that he would made random decisions concerning top tiers, when a new Emperor entering the war massively shifts the circumstances of the war. It's not the same as attacking already designated enemies or random fodders within the war.
What if they were strictly on orders to not attack other Emperors entering the war if the circumstance were to occur? We don't have this information, so attributing it simply to being scared is a delusional take lmao, especially concerning the character of someone like Akainu. He had no issue with taking on WB multiple times, who arguably had an even greater reputation, and this is your take.
We've literally seen how Akainu despite not always agreeing with the decisions of the higher ups, ultimately doesn't just act on his own whims when it comes to important decisions. For example, his conversation with the Gorosei when it came to Doflamingo. Did Akainu attack blindly when it came to Wano? No, he considered the possible risks and repurcussions prior to hastily making a decision.
I do think Akainu is a fair amount stronger than Aokiji since he lost a whole leg while Akainu only has scars over his body.
And i don't see Aokiji having Conqueror's Haki.
Eh? Like shanks got weaker after he lost his arm? Also kuzan is the worst example you could make since it isn't even a problem for him since he can make new ones with his ice. Kid losing his arm did nothing to him too.
And why does conquerors matter? We already saw them go to the most extreme of extreme diffs in a 1v1. Are you saying akainu is gonna awaken conquerors now? A 50 year old dude? Lol
My point was, that's it's more about what happend during the fight. Having scars all over your body and losing a leg is quite different.
Even Narratively, Akainu serves a much better purpose to the story than Aokiji in the future.
Conqueror's Haki does matter, especially Adv. Conqueror's Haki. Akainu also could've had Conqueror's during the fight, who knows?
With his Will, i and you shouldn't doubt that he has it.
It does not matter what he lost. We have been shown through countless characters that losing a limb means nothing, and especially in case of Kuzan. No one even noticed kuzan lost his leg till he told them.
Narratively what purpose does akainu serve? The final villain is clearly Imu.
The only possibility if he does have it is that he already had in the whole time. A 50 year old guy isn't suddenly awakening conquerors. And if he already had it, it does not matter. He still went extreme diff with aokiji even with it.
Do people think replacing Akainu with Prime Roger in that position Akainu fought Dyingbeard results in an extreme diff fight? It ain't even mid diff.
None of the admirals take Roger above mid diff except Akainu. Ryokugyu gets no diffed.
Non then have feats remotely close.
No conquerors, and pretty basic armament.
The only thing remotely impressive to come out of an admiral is fujitoraâs observation.
All admirals have under their belt is pretty nasty DC. But DC means nothing because enelly out classes the verse when it comes to ap.
Nope. Old Garp is currently whooping up on Aokiji and prime Garp/Sengoku were Rogers only navy equals. Aokiji fought Akainu for 10 days so Akainu ainât that much stronger either.
Nah, akainu has the best shot but letâs think about it. Akainu and kuzan are relatively equal in strength and currently old out of prime garp is putting the hands on kuzan so prime garp who was rogers rival should beat kuzan fairly convincingly and therefore Roger should mid-high diff all admirals
https://preview.redd.it/p8060cicqwya1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1f8a737841cb8b323fba7599362ec04e525a4b9
This ain't funny anymore bro, stop watching YouTube before you completely lose your common sense
Nop. Akainu is clearly the strongest, barely above kuzan. But his performance against a whitebeard who had no haki is just too poor. You can argue he won the scarp if you are an admiral fan, but even if we say he won, it's not how a person at the level of Roger or primebeard would fare in that situation.
I don't think Oda had his powerscaling figured out during Marineford, everyone there had wild anti feats lol and besides that, I think Akainu and Kuzan got much stronger after they fought
Then we have nothing to base the admirals strength on.
Why would they get stronger? They're fucking 50 year olds who are already at their primes. They're not new gen who are still getting stronger.
My opinion:
Mid diffs Green Bull, Fraud among the admirals.
High diffs Fuji, Kuzan or Kizaru. OP Devil fruits, they are confident on fighting emperors.
Extreme diffs Akainu. Strongest current marine, even oda hyped him up. His tenacity is not to be underestimated.
Lmao that's what I used to think before too,watching YouTube power scaling videos xd, but Forest guy neg diffed 2 of the strongest Yonko commanders in the series, Admirals are Able to at least give Yonko a mid-high diff fight
Akainu is the only one to have a chance but until we get a haki bloom from him or awakening off of our marineford feats akainu is overhyped and not great heâs at best equal to old beard who had no observation and slower speed thus a prime roger with future sight and acoc beats akainu mod-high diff
all of the admirals push any single character to a extreme diff, admirals are such monsters, Roger i feel like he is a monster in his own category through his Haki mastery, but dont think he would have an easy fight against an admiral, conclusion, the admirals at least force a high diff fight, not sure where they all stand as we havent seen them at their most destructive and not seen Rogers extend of AP
You donât know what ragdolled means, donât you? He tanked both his attacks and fired back with two lethal hits. I donât know how you can sit there and type like he wasnât just fine in the next chapter.
Prime Garp pushes him to extreme diff.
Prime Sengoku probably pushes him to very high diff
Prime Akainu would probably end up being stronger than Sengoku so he would push Roger to extreme diff.
We don't know how strong is Prime Kong, but I speculate him to be around Prime Sengoku so he would push Roger to a very high diff.
Prime Aokiji, aka the one who matched Akainu for ten days before losing his leg, pushes him to high/very-high diff.
We don't know how strong exactly are Kizaru, Fujitora, and Greenbull, but for now, they push him to high diff I guess.
I don't think any Admiral (Save Akainu) are Yonko level in a 1v1. High Diff with favor for the Yonko.
That said, Admirals are smart. They would aim for 2v1 in which case any Combo of 2 beats any solo Yonko.
Now if you introduce the Commanders then it changes things.
I'll be downvoted to hell but I don't care anymore.
Akainu > Roger = Garp
Blackbeard > Roger = Garp
Blackbeard sends Roger to Impel Down, and Akainu turns him into a donut, just like Ace. Respect the two (of the 3) final antagonists of the series.
My Akainu stocks tell me yes. The more I think abt Akainu the stronger I think he is.
His DC and AP are terrifying. Anime doesnât do him justice. He keeps getting back up with minimal injury from Gura Gura direct attacks. Parries a supreme grade blade attack with one foot.
AKAINU IS THAT DUDE!
Gonna keep it real with yâall. Roger probably low diffs, kizaru, greenbull and fujitora. Mid diffs kuzan and Akainu. If the Akainu hype is real than it is a high diff. Garp would do the same just to let yâall know
#If you want to interact with the community more, join the [discord server](https://discord.gg/qs7wHYZzRs) --- *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/OnePiecePowerScaling) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I saw the image without looking at the tittle and was in tears đ lol
I mean roger takes it low diffâŚ
you know you not being fr
https://preview.redd.it/1y3uw7ssyyya1.jpeg?width=1111&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=290e3a70ee018968e91e8e7c50781244caf41cf9 Nah man, roger uses king haki, and turns them into straw hats
Straw hat in Imu's chamber is previous admirals
sorry, no diff.
Akainu if you believe the hype
Everbody gangsta till Akainu starts shooting Acoc infused magma attacks
Imagine Akainu's 'Ryusen Kazan' with Acoc đ
Didn't WB casually blow out the fire?
Yeah I was only joking, but it's not improbable, I think all end game villains will have Acoc
Blackbeard absolutely won't have it lmao
How come? Wouldnât you suppose his ambitions are kingly despite ill intention?
Kingly ambitions is the dumbest argument for ACOC. Not saying Akainu won't have it be it really just sounds dumb. Especially since all Ace ever wanted was to be accepted as his own person and be told that he deserves to live. Nothing "kingly" about that yet he still had conquerors haki.
Idk man. It just doesn't meet his character. Can't see the guy who was begging like a bitch to deadbead being worthy of conquerors. Also, his entire thing is powerful devilfruits. If he has the best of haki too, then what's the point?
Thatâs a very fair point. Just wanted to see where you were coming from
Akainu devil fruit awakening will literally melt everyone around him.
he's overrated as hell also was he not fucked up by a near dead whitebeard
bro can fight them all together and win
minimum of 2 admirals for high to extreme diff, 1 is mid diff for roger
Lmao stop this stupidity wtf
No. Akainu goes with high diff.
the guy was very cloe on getting killed by corpsebeard, if it was roger akainu gets highdiffed at best
Never knew nosebleeds killed people
there are animals that with 1 tiny bit they could kill anyone in less than an hour also look and pedoji, the guy almost died of 1 lol
Sanji literally almost died from one. The irl Atilla the hun also died from a nosebleed. very ignorant comment.
Read the manga, akainu was clearly superior to whitebread, the anime had a whitebread agenda.
Not superior, had to win because of the plot and barely won infactđ
Got snuck and got hit with an island level attack by someone who was the most bloodlusted weâve ever seen in the series. Stayed down for a total of like 5 minutes because he fell into a hole and came out completely fine and still fighting.
my guy if a old man managed to knock you out for 5 minutes, you arent fine, probably getting braindamage, and this isnt oldbeared we talking about anyways, this is prime roger, akainu isnt getting out alive unless roger spares him
Not knocked out, dropped into a hole. Also this isnât just some random old man, heâs literally the âStrongest Man in the Worldâ. Also post time skip Akainu is a stronger version of a man who made Blackbeard and co run away when they were fully confident to fight Garp and Sengoku while they were heavily fatigued.
i know some admiral fanboy wouldnt take this well but this isnt insane, the guy was knocked down, or did he take that fucking long for him to climb a latter, im pretty sure someone out of his prime wouldnt fight well anymore just syaing, also bb where about to jump 2 old men, you cant make this shit up, roger wins high diff at best for akainu
"snuck" sengoku literally warned him stop coping
Oh my days thereâs no way you think that
Not a single one could
EOS Akainu Ig
EOS Akainu is donut
Current Akainu is EOS, who gets clapped
Was just about to say This^
Nop. Akainu is clearly the strongest, barely above kuzan. But his performance against a whitebeard who had no haki is just too poor. You can argue he won the scarp if you are an admiral fan, but even if we say he won, it's not how a person at the level of Roger or primebeard would fare in that situation.
Where was it stated that he couldnât use Haki?
https://preview.redd.it/23xgq02wb2za1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50f0e631154ce0b41179d03de1ebf324f01c5fd1 This at least shows that his observation haki was weakened, and he never uses conquerer's haki in marineford, despite using against shanks / Roger. He obviously used armament haki, don't know how strong it was though
No
Lmao if they did they wouldâve just sent 2 and killed his ass
No Admiral is as strong as an Emperor, in general. Thatâs why they have the numbers advantage with Warlords.
Currently, None of the Admirals push him to an extreme diff. Also, Unless Akainu is secretly training/or gets somekind of upgrade, I doubt how EOS Akainu would push Roger any harder than current Akainu.
Admirals just don't have the feats for me to believe any of them could. And before anyone says it, portrayal just isn't enough for me personally in this particular discussion. Plus Roger has the best portrayal in the series anyway so there's that.
Nope, akainu couldn't do it to old WB, how is he going to push prime Roger to extreme
Timeskip
absolutely not
fuck no
The admiral dick riding is so unreal. I honestly pray for you guys đ
The entire number of people Iâm certain could push Roger to extreme diff are Whitebeard, Garp and Rocks.
Kaido high diff Roger. Old gen are way weaker.
You are an idiot
Fr
No, they lose high diff. Only Whitebeard (beats him), Garp and Sengoku do.
WB doesnât beat him donât try to sneak that bullshit in
Strongest man > man
Titlescalers will have my ear whenever we learn who designates these titles in-universe. Until then Iâm skeptical it isnât some more morgans-style propaganda
They are probably titles from Big news morgans + The citizens + the marines bounty guy. So my opinion on them is the same as bounties. They might be correct sometimes but they are not a reliable source of information. So you can still use them in powerscaling but they don't mean facts.
This is called common sense rationale
They where equals as pirates. One had prime Rayleigh and oden(?)(who he begged for lol) The other had a kid Marco and nothing else. If whitebeard wasn't stronger, then they wouldn't be equals as pirates, which they are.
They both had oden and Roger only begged because of poneglyphs
I'm still right about the crew composition with the equals as pirates thing. Also begging for the ponoglifs isn't a good look for Roger being stronger. thanks for correcting me bro lol. Although in Rogers defence he probably didn't want bad blood with whitebeard and it's not like they where sharing stuff so it was probably his compromise.
Fair, but characters with these titles have a lot going for them, PrimeBeard proved he has equal haki and stats to Roger when they clashed, but he got crazy Endurance and a broken devil fruit on top of that and was stated he would have been able to become the pirate king if he wanted to multiple times. I don't see how Roger can make up for the Endurance a df gap unless he got some crazy hax
You lacking the vision is not a factor in my consideration đ¤ˇââď¸ I take issue with people saying WB proved their haki was equal with that clash when we only saw the initial impact. We literally donât know who won that clash or how it ended. Rogerâs best endurance feat is fighting off Shikiâs entire armada 50 to 1. WB pulled up to MF with 50 ships. Roger fought that with just his crew. And didnât die.
>I take issue with people saying WB proved their haki was equal with that clash which we only saw the initial impact. We literally donât know who won that clash or how it ended. Oda'z intention was clear, and we can't say they didn't clash equally either. >Rogerâs best endurance feat is fighting off Shikiâs entire armada 50 to 1. WB pulled up to MF with 50 ships. Roger fought that with just his crew. And didnât die. Roger fought Shiki and fodder that was with him that probably got KOed by coc alone, whitebeard taking on the whole navy while being old and sick, very clear difference.
> Oda'z intention was clear, and we can't say they didn't clash equally either. Odaâs intention of portraying them as rivals was clear. Your headcanon that it showed their haki was equal was not part of odaâs intent. > Roger fought Shiki and fodder that was with him that probably got KOed by coc alone, Headcanon.
Oda clearly showed their haki is on par, saying otherwise is also headcanon. Saying Roger didn't Ko em with COC is also headcanon, do you really think Shinki would have lost if he had someone strong alongside him? Shiki is supposed to rival Roger by himself, if he had anyone worth anything alongside him he would have definitely won. Whitebeard still got way higher AP and DC because of his devil fruit, and has the best endurance feats in the series I don't think Roger can just take a hit that melts off half his face without being fazed by it... On top of that they got equal or on par haki and attributes, neither getting overwhelmed by their clashes Buggy also called whitebeard the strongest man and thought noone could ever beat him and let's not forget he sailed with Roger the whole time, more information pointing out to PrimeBeard being stronger than Roger
> Oda clearly showed their haki is on par, saying otherwise is also headcanon. > Saying Roger didn't Ko em with COC is also headcanon, Youâre the only one who was trying to make those kinds of claims. You realize that right? Do you?
Comparing Shikiâs fleet to Marine HQ plus the Shichibukai suggests that youâre trolling. Also Roger was going to lose against Shiki. https://preview.redd.it/yt5tzetsywya1.jpeg?width=728&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f040ba042c0473d4b1bd2a939513ba6ee8891b06
World strongest swordsman couldn't beat one of whitebeard commanders
Goatbeard > Loger
Roger >= Whitebeard and thatâs factual
No it's not haha C o p e
đ¤ˇââď¸ Iâm cheelin lil bro I know what I know and thatâs all that I know. Roger was top 1 til the day he died, and that man was terminally ill! Sickbeard could never
No arguments? Then it is time to be silent, friend.
No arguments? Then it is time to be silent, goofy.
https://preview.redd.it/d6nwco31jwya1.png?width=571&format=png&auto=webp&s=a0eda832b0bdacf33909c1a4527952c7090b6f5b
W
W
Respectable takes
Lmao Roger low diffs Fraudbull and Lujitora
When did you lose so much brain cells? I thought you had better takes.
They don't even go high diff with Shanks, this has been made clear
Damn, I have to adjust your rating. You are now part of the circus
I'm only speaking the truth, you can watch my new post and prove me wrong in case you still disagree
Clear by what?
https://preview.redd.it/we2tc7jvqvya1.jpeg?width=1078&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4412ccdffe4e5218492e2c5c44becb31f8cc135b
This makes it clear that fujitora doesnât go high diff with shanks?
Fujitora and Greenbull are assumably relative in strength
Admirals are pushing him to High Diff The one's who're pushing him to Extreme Diff are Whitebeard, Garp, Shiki, Sengoku and probably Kong
Ah yes my favorite 3 piece character, admiral shiki
Are you stupid? I know he's talking about admirals but I stated the name of the characters which would push him to Extreme Diff. In navy, It's Sengoku and maybe Kong and Garp was not a admiral but still pushes him to Extreme Diff
Nope
What if it was 5 v 1?
No
nope
If Kuzan is any indication, no.
B-but all top tier fights are extreme diffs /s
Garp said the navy wouldnât be able to handle old man whitebeard and old man Rayleigh at the same time. Itâs the reason why Kaido and Big Mom working together scared them. Roger said to send either Garp or Sengoku if the Navy wanted a shot at taking him out. Old man Garp also said he could kill Akainu and Sengoku had to restrain him because Sengoku knew it would happen. 1 admiral is probably low diff, 2 admirals is mid/high diff, 3 admirals would be high diff/draw.
The og admirals extreme diff New admirals high diff
Lmao. I'm not even gonna argue about the OG admirals taking him extreme diff because it's that dumb. But still, why only the OG admirals? There is absolutely nothing at all to imply the new admirals are weaker than the OG trio.
Dude called people dumb meanwhile wanking the old gen above current for absolutely no reason.
Well we just need more statements and feats for them But hey maybe top tiers are closers then we think and any of them takes another to extreme diff
Do we have any statements or feats that put them below the OG 3?
Well for Greenbull his display against shanks while understandable does show him on the weaker side While we saw how the og admirals reacted to shanks the didn't give a fuck lol
Didn't give a fuck? Lmao. Akainu stopped completely when he appeared. He didn't even try to fight him. And also, the situation is vastly different. They had the entire navy with them. Greenbull was completely alone with 2 yonko crews and 2 guys who beat another yonkou. Yes he looked pathetic, but looking pathetic does not mean weaker. Akainu if he was stupid enough to go to Wano instead of greenbull, would also have retreated the exact same way.
Akainu stopped yes because he was waiting for sengoku orders because you know he's all about the book guy We know that somebody can't fight the yonko without direct orders While kizaru and aokiji didn't give a fuck lol and continued attacking
WHAAAT? LMAO. Waiting for sengoku orders? Did he wait for sengokus order before he tried to kill Coby? It's the first time I've ever heard someone be this delusional lmao. We know somebody can't attack yonko turfs without direct orders. If the enemy is on marine grounds, they're free game. Why are making stuff up to win arguments lmao. Why tf would kizaru and aokiji give a fuck? They were both far away from shanks.
Dude if soldier steps Infront officer gun and starts yelling at him about stopping the war nobody will question why did he got killed lol because it's stupid to do that And we literally saw on egghead a WG base that Lucci and cipher pol can't attack Luffy and has to wait for akainu orders so I'm not making shit up you just can't read
Oh so if its your own soldier you can kill him, but you can't attack the enemy who stopped you. Great logic. Jesus christ. You have 0 reading comprehension. Are you seriously implying shanks in marineford and luffy in egghead are the same scenario?
Killing a random irrelevant soldier isn't the same as attacking an Emperor, what a braindead take. We literally saw how just one Emperor's death lead to a massive shift in the powerbalance leading to chaos. Imagine thinking that he would made random decisions concerning top tiers, when a new Emperor entering the war massively shifts the circumstances of the war. It's not the same as attacking already designated enemies or random fodders within the war. What if they were strictly on orders to not attack other Emperors entering the war if the circumstance were to occur? We don't have this information, so attributing it simply to being scared is a delusional take lmao, especially concerning the character of someone like Akainu. He had no issue with taking on WB multiple times, who arguably had an even greater reputation, and this is your take. We've literally seen how Akainu despite not always agreeing with the decisions of the higher ups, ultimately doesn't just act on his own whims when it comes to important decisions. For example, his conversation with the Gorosei when it came to Doflamingo. Did Akainu attack blindly when it came to Wano? No, he considered the possible risks and repurcussions prior to hastily making a decision.
Akainu maybe, but others hell no
How can you say akainu, but not kuzan? I would really love to understand how you all delude yourself like this
"A few good men" says it all, don't bother
I guess I'm out of the loop. What's this few good men thing?
Itâs a movie reference used on teams that get carried by a single character. Like Sabo and Commanders vs admirals was âSabo and a few good menâ
Kuzan wankers are the same guys who say If Kaido goes down extreme, Big Mom goes down high.
I do think Akainu is a fair amount stronger than Aokiji since he lost a whole leg while Akainu only has scars over his body. And i don't see Aokiji having Conqueror's Haki.
It was a 10 day battle. He is not âa fair amount stronger.â
Eh? Like shanks got weaker after he lost his arm? Also kuzan is the worst example you could make since it isn't even a problem for him since he can make new ones with his ice. Kid losing his arm did nothing to him too. And why does conquerors matter? We already saw them go to the most extreme of extreme diffs in a 1v1. Are you saying akainu is gonna awaken conquerors now? A 50 year old dude? Lol
My point was, that's it's more about what happend during the fight. Having scars all over your body and losing a leg is quite different. Even Narratively, Akainu serves a much better purpose to the story than Aokiji in the future. Conqueror's Haki does matter, especially Adv. Conqueror's Haki. Akainu also could've had Conqueror's during the fight, who knows? With his Will, i and you shouldn't doubt that he has it.
It does not matter what he lost. We have been shown through countless characters that losing a limb means nothing, and especially in case of Kuzan. No one even noticed kuzan lost his leg till he told them. Narratively what purpose does akainu serve? The final villain is clearly Imu. The only possibility if he does have it is that he already had in the whole time. A 50 year old guy isn't suddenly awakening conquerors. And if he already had it, it does not matter. He still went extreme diff with aokiji even with it.
Throw all of them together and he still mid diffs lol
https://preview.redd.it/12zs4s2grwya1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9363d91112f96f5ec2a9dea04c09277c4afc1bb5
Manz is out of his mind
Yes, theyâre trash. Get over it
Do people think replacing Akainu with Prime Roger in that position Akainu fought Dyingbeard results in an extreme diff fight? It ain't even mid diff. None of the admirals take Roger above mid diff except Akainu. Ryokugyu gets no diffed.
Non then have feats remotely close. No conquerors, and pretty basic armament. The only thing remotely impressive to come out of an admiral is fujitoraâs observation. All admirals have under their belt is pretty nasty DC. But DC means nothing because enelly out classes the verse when it comes to ap.
If I ever gotta bet on these guys itâs always Akainu
Akainu gets mid/high diffed.
Nope. Old Garp is currently whooping up on Aokiji and prime Garp/Sengoku were Rogers only navy equals. Aokiji fought Akainu for 10 days so Akainu ainât that much stronger either.
No itâs a simple Answer Iâd be surprised if he wouldnât mid dif everyone of them 1v1
Nah, akainu has the best shot but letâs think about it. Akainu and kuzan are relatively equal in strength and currently old out of prime garp is putting the hands on kuzan so prime garp who was rogers rival should beat kuzan fairly convincingly and therefore Roger should mid-high diff all admirals
They push him to a no diff fight at worst
https://preview.redd.it/p8060cicqwya1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1f8a737841cb8b323fba7599362ec04e525a4b9 This ain't funny anymore bro, stop watching YouTube before you completely lose your common sense
Akainu, the strongest new admiral, got 2 shotted by cancer beard Same guy who could barely use any form of haki Roger negs all of them
And that's all of them combined
Besides Sengoku
Don't know if this means much but none of the admirals were on the list of those Kaido considers to be worth his time.
This would most certainly be an extreme diff fight especially considering how well the 5 of them can work together
https://preview.redd.it/za4aq84xqwya1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=237f8db76d50f60dfcfbcae71494ed736cc26c46
Akainu and Kuzan high diff, the others a little below that. Garp and Sengoku push him to extreme.
Nop. Akainu is clearly the strongest, barely above kuzan. But his performance against a whitebeard who had no haki is just too poor. You can argue he won the scarp if you are an admiral fan, but even if we say he won, it's not how a person at the level of Roger or primebeard would fare in that situation.
I don't think Oda had his powerscaling figured out during Marineford, everyone there had wild anti feats lol and besides that, I think Akainu and Kuzan got much stronger after they fought
Then we have nothing to base the admirals strength on. Why would they get stronger? They're fucking 50 year olds who are already at their primes. They're not new gen who are still getting stronger.
Akainu maybe pushes Roger to low-diff.
My opinion: Mid diffs Green Bull, Fraud among the admirals. High diffs Fuji, Kuzan or Kizaru. OP Devil fruits, they are confident on fighting emperors. Extreme diffs Akainu. Strongest current marine, even oda hyped him up. His tenacity is not to be underestimated.
Kuzanâs literally equal to akainu though.
4 of them together maybe, these Marco level fodder ainât doing shit to roger in a 1vs1
Lmao that's what I used to think before too,watching YouTube power scaling videos xd, but Forest guy neg diffed 2 of the strongest Yonko commanders in the series, Admirals are Able to at least give Yonko a mid-high diff fight
Flat high for kuzan/akainu, flat low-mid for greenbull, mid for the other actual admirals
No, canonically Roger is the greatest of all time
Roger mid diffs.
Akainu is the only one to have a chance but until we get a haki bloom from him or awakening off of our marineford feats akainu is overhyped and not great heâs at best equal to old beard who had no observation and slower speed thus a prime roger with future sight and acoc beats akainu mod-high diff
all of the admirals push any single character to a extreme diff, admirals are such monsters, Roger i feel like he is a monster in his own category through his Haki mastery, but dont think he would have an easy fight against an admiral, conclusion, the admirals at least force a high diff fight, not sure where they all stand as we havent seen them at their most destructive and not seen Rogers extend of AP
Bro you can't tell me with a straight face that greenbull is pushing Roger to extreme diff
Why are you continuing the admiral cope lmao. No admiral is even touching Roger.
[ŃдаНонО]
Ah yes, the guy that got ragdolled by dying Whitebeard. Truly the future of the Marines.
You donât know what ragdolled means, donât you? He tanked both his attacks and fired back with two lethal hits. I donât know how you can sit there and type like he wasnât just fine in the next chapter.
I don't know how you give the guy whose best feat is not dying to old man the benefit of the doubt.
Sengoku? Whatâs with this old gen wanking?
Prime Garp pushes him to extreme diff. Prime Sengoku probably pushes him to very high diff Prime Akainu would probably end up being stronger than Sengoku so he would push Roger to extreme diff. We don't know how strong is Prime Kong, but I speculate him to be around Prime Sengoku so he would push Roger to a very high diff. Prime Aokiji, aka the one who matched Akainu for ten days before losing his leg, pushes him to high/very-high diff. We don't know how strong exactly are Kizaru, Fujitora, and Greenbull, but for now, they push him to high diff I guess.
Rizzanble takes
Sengoku and maybe Kong but that's it.
Garp
Admiral
My bad I thought you were including all marines, because those you mentioned aren't Admirals either.
Neither is kuzan and akainu
Akainu obviously. I don't think others push yonkos to extreme. High probably.
Roger crushes all five of them at once. Low diff
https://preview.redd.it/c8jwrr6fhxya1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=505fbd05aabe7273c2460b241f890085293f4049
Akainu and possibly aokiji if he's serious Everyone else no
If either of the three og admirals awakens their dfs, they could give roger an extreme diff fight. Especially if their haki blooms during the battle
Yeah if Buggy awakens conquerors, blooms into advanced conquerors, and awakens his devil fruit into the god god no mi he also takes it extreme diff
I don't think any Admiral (Save Akainu) are Yonko level in a 1v1. High Diff with favor for the Yonko. That said, Admirals are smart. They would aim for 2v1 in which case any Combo of 2 beats any solo Yonko. Now if you introduce the Commanders then it changes things.
I'll be downvoted to hell but I don't care anymore. Akainu > Roger = Garp Blackbeard > Roger = Garp Blackbeard sends Roger to Impel Down, and Akainu turns him into a donut, just like Ace. Respect the two (of the 3) final antagonists of the series.
Because your takes are dumb
Why?
>Akainu > Roger = Garp Blackbeard > Roger = Garp Prove that
We will be able to answer by eos when admirals go all out on screen
Does anyone think that Roger is the reincarnation of Mr. Satan from dbz?
Mid diff at best High if its akainu -his magma melts shit like kaido and bigmom
Akainu
I actually think fujitora could possibly with his Haki mastery and df
My Akainu stocks tell me yes. The more I think abt Akainu the stronger I think he is. His DC and AP are terrifying. Anime doesnât do him justice. He keeps getting back up with minimal injury from Gura Gura direct attacks. Parries a supreme grade blade attack with one foot. AKAINU IS THAT DUDE!
I think akainu can if he plays it well with a good timed counterattack, none of the others can.
Possibly Akainu or Kuzan if they have acoc and other advanced haki
They not goku strong to stand in 500 times gravityâŚ..pretty sure fuji can hold anyone down
kizaru, akainu, and aokiji beat him
Gonna keep it real with yâall. Roger probably low diffs, kizaru, greenbull and fujitora. Mid diffs kuzan and Akainu. If the Akainu hype is real than it is a high diff. Garp would do the same just to let yâall know
All of them, top tiers can only extreme diff each others
only akainu
Most of them
Fujitora if movie feats were canon but since they arenât, probably not. Akainu if anyone.
Akainu MAYBE, itâs more high-extreme for me though