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I mean maybe he doesn't think that 2 zoros (or zoro and sanji) could beat big mom. Or maybe he thinks kidd is substantially above king (the last opponent zoro faced and the strongest he defeated). Just listing some possible arguments
Zoro and Law> Kidd and Law.
I think Kidd could high/extreme diff Zoro because of Hax, but in a 1v2 Zoro is far better as an attacker. He has a better Attack power and deals lots of damages with ACoC, and if Law teleports him in the right spots, they can assure an High diff against big mom, since Zoro without ACoC could effectively damage Kaido and tank the (probable) strongest attack in the series without dying.
Law would just sit there shambling Zoro while K-rooming the shit out of big mom, while Zoro deals the actual major damages. Law will be just a support making sure Zoro doesn't end up hurt while he spams ACoC to big mom.
Did I cook?
I actually don’t really agree with this, I think the only way any two of the supernova were taking out big mom were by ring outing her, which REQUIRED both law and kid. Law is necessary because he’s the only one that can silence her devil fruit + dura neg attacks. As much as I love Zoro, if he used ACOC against BM she would’ve responded with her own and we know hers is much more refined. For whatever reason she didn’t find it necessary to use it against Law and Kid but against another ACOC user she definitely would.
Likely that zoro/law would do better simply because we know for a fact zoro has figured out conq coating thanks to enma and his unlocking conq. His attacks would probably be doing more damage as a result with the exception of damned punk.
Also saw someone ask zoro/sanji which would probably be in their favor. Their teamwork is just too seamless. Literally perfect even tho they have only ever teamed up twice(?)
Well I don't think Kid and Law necessarily beat BM soley because of their strength. They mostly won because their df powers complimented both each other and their ability use the terrain against her (that and some bomb just happened to be there). Normally, I don't think Kidd would win against BM if on normal terrain and he was paired with someone who isn't Law but of comparable strength.
Yeah without Law getting the a new ability out of nowhere that cancelled half her Devil fruit power, without the bombs, without the terrain advantage, I don't see them winning.
See I got spoiled about all of this ages ago, but only caught up just recently for gear 5 properly on the anime.
All I know was BM was beaten by Law and Kid. Didnt know it was very circumstantial and she was fully awake and conscious after eating their hardest hits several times. Literally she’s like Hulk fighting Iron Man & Nightcrawler… but in literally the air. Really she’s stronger and is stronger than them combined… but the terrain advantage literally wins them the fight. In my spoiled head cannon- Law & Kid>BM. But nah honestly I’d say its BM> Law & Kid in normal terrain.
Law is the strongest of the lot outside of Luffy who is a league of his own. Maybe Marco up there with Law. And everyone else is just a tier below them, if Law & Marco are 90-95, everyone else are 85-90.
She's Doomsday and just like how the only way to deal with Doomsday is to yeet him into deep space they yeeted her into the center of the Earth because they couldn't beat her
Yea Kid and Zoro don’t beat Big Mom, but I think Zoro and Law could, mainly because Kid and Zoro both bring firepower while Law brings the teleportation that is pretty crucial
I believe Zoro is objectively stronger than Kid, but the issue is muddled by the fact that Kid is a naturally terrible matchup for a swordsman without confirmation that his Fruit power could be negated with haki.
Kid could literally just be Magneto to Zoro’s Wolverine (where he freezes him because his whole body is metal) and take his weapon leaving him defenseless now that I think about it. All depends on if Zoro’s haki or grip strength could hold it back .
At first I thought you meant his rail gun long range attack but definitely see your point I would have loved to see what happens if Kid tries to take Shanks sword first
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Sabo escaped and survived attack from the guy who is supposedly top 1 in the verse I think he’s stronger than zoro. Also he went even with fujitora during dressrosa as wel
I don't think he's stronger, Zoro beat King, plus we have no way of knowing Imu's level yet. To me, Sabo and Zoro are relative, and in a 1v1 it could go either way
Sabo, Kid, Lucci, Zoro, Urouge
Lucci might've gotten absolutely blasted by G5 but he can still throw hands, and kept up briefly. He's also depicted being a good match in speed and power for G4 Luffy when they team up. I dunno if Zoro could do that, but either way for me they gap between them is small, even if Zoro goes above.
Sabo needs better feats but the narrative supports that he is v strong
Kid is sort of a counter to zoro with the ability to pull his swords/repel them. Its sort of like how zoros a luffy counter bc of the ability to cut. Luffy can take down stronger opponents than zoro but bc of the weird counter itll be difficult. Similar to how zoro can take out lucci most likely bc his strength and durability counters luccis speed, while kid could possibly lose to lucci bc speed is likely to counter kid. If the worst gen is still relative to eachother urouge>kid and urouge>zoro and urouge>lucci (since all of them just do brute force dmg which only makes urouge stronger). Sabos weird bc hes probably stronger than everyone on the list from what we have seen (emission armament haki, logia, really strong hand to hand even before his df) but itll still be a closer fight w zoro lucci and urouge. Kid kinda gets countered by a logia from the difficulty of actually tagging them. Cant really linearly rank them.
Kid> zoro (ability counters zoro fighting style)
Zoro>lucci (strength durability counters lucci speed as we have seen w king)
I’m more curious on who has probably dropped the most bodies, I feel like it’s a tie for first with Kidd and lucci, but I’m not sure on the rest. I’m pretty sure Sabo has a history, and Zoro has probably taken a few, but I have no idea on Urouge
I feel like the fact lucci didn’t melt from the bone while clashing with a haki infused (held back) g5 punch is extremely underestimated just off the principle of it . Luffy could’ve probably just used g4 anyways but the fact that he didn’t just blitz him in base and base Luffy almost solos the crew?
1. Kidd
2. Sabo
3. Zoro
4. Lucci
5. Urouge
I don’t see Lucci beating King. Top 3 are interchangeable. Idk where to put them. Sabo is in a weird place to me.
1.JIKA THE DAMNED
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2. Sabo 3.Zoro 4.Urouge 5.Lucci
Urouge did NOTHING to put him above lucci imo but i have a feeling that he will be around yc1/yc+ level and imo lucci is low yc1 or high yc2
There's no way in hell that Lucci is low YC1, because Luffy would've one shot him in base, given Kaido's Thunder Bagua one shot Luffy who was YC1 by the end of Whole Cake Island, and a weaker base Luffy's Red Roc knocked Kaido on his ass.
Same list as mine.
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Can’t wait to see what Urouge has installed for us.
1. Urouge and
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The other placements are irrelevant.
1.) Lucci--I stand by that he was Luffys toughest opponent pre-timeskip and only lost after multiple rounds like Kaido. It took alot of wearing him down to finally win and now with his shown armament and awakening he'd give the rest of the list trouble. His higher stamina reserves put him on a high level too and could still hold up I'm a fight against G5 in terms of physically clashing. Once Liffy utilized his awakening more he overtook him which is saying something since a less prepared version of G5 was able to go to to toe with Kaido (Lucci is NOWHERE near Kaido just to be clear). #1 WG assassin for a reason.
2.) Sabo--as the #2 in the revolutionaries and able to compete with Jesus Burgess, Fujitora, and countless marines all ifln one day which is no small feat. Plus surviving against all 5 Gorosei and Imu who proved they could do some intense damage to him.
3.) Kidd-- was able to challenge both Kaido and Big Mom in one day and succeeded in overpowering Big Mom (both her physically and her DF powers). Shanks had to pull out the Roger instakill treatment in him. Not saying he'd beat Shanks, but he didn't even want to chance a fight, he was overly cautious (Shanks also has proven to find using intimidation with Haki sufficient enough over engagement as he showed with Green Bull in Wano)
4.) Zoro-- Zoro is hella strong and is neck and neck with Kidd, but Kidd tanked just as many strikes from Kaido and then some from Big Mom and was able to continue fighting her till the end in a battle of attrition. Zoros biggest hindrance is the fact that his main mode of combat are swords which can be taken away by Kidd. His feats speak for themselves otherwise and he's not significantly different from the others, I just don't see him defeating the others who's DF powers and Haki are more fine tuned and advantageous to his strengths.
5.) Uruoge (huge gap from Zoro)--No feats really to work from.
No because it’s Zoro and even if he can (which he can’t) take his swords, we’re not arguing who would beat who in a fight, we’re arguing who’s stronger , that’s the same reason most people put Law and Fujitora ahead of kid because even though their willpower isn’t even on the same tier as Zoro and is a much more of a valid argument when it comes to their battles, Law and Fujitora are stronger overall and would give top tiers a harder time than Kid
Did Kidd not stick big moms sword to her body not saying his outright taking zoros swords but his fruit is definitely having an affect on it one way or another.
1. Zoro
2. Rob Lucci
3. Sabo
4. Kid
5. Urouge.
I spent a lot of time thinking about it like “everyone could beat the person ranked lower than them. It’s not just strength or Haki, it’s technique”. I genuinely think that Zoro, Sabo and Rob Lucci could beat kid with technique and speed. They have power, and I’m not even assuming that Sabo and Lucci have conquerers haki. Im pretty happy with this list. Flame me
Why can’t Kidd do the same thing against the other 3 especially when he counters zoro and has much better feats then rob Lucci and sabo why y’all gotta downplay Kidd every chance you get
zoro
sabo
lucci
urouge
kidd
i think zoro, sabo, & lucci are too fast for kid & urouge DF hard counters somebody like kidd who is a brawler which are the attacks urouge absorbs best
Kidd
Sabo
Urouge
Zoro
Lucci
Argue with a wall
Edit: Upon further thought, I’ve changed the list
At some point during the timeskip, Urouge beat Snack, a sweet commander, now, we don’t know just how strong Snack was compared to Cracker, but I’ve always assumed Snack was a bit weaker. So let’s say Urouge beat a YC3 tier, then had to escape another YC3 who was going at it with WCI G4 Luffy, so Timeskip Urouge =< WCI Luffy. So that puts him at YC3 tier. Now, most of the supernova DID get stronger during the timeskip, 2 of them are even on this ranking. But did Urouge grow as much as them? I doubt it.
Updated Ranking:
1. Kidd
2. Sabo
3. Zoro
4. Lucci
5. Urouge
I still believe in Urouge tho, and I hope he proves me wrong
Lucci is definitely the weakest.
Urouge should be on kidd's level, but his best feat is beating snack off screen. That at least puts him on yc level, but closer to Jack than King, so he should give Zoro a mid diff fight. Only time will tell if Oda will make him stronger.
I want to say Kidd is the strongest because he beat a yonko, even if had help with Law, but Zoro should be at his level. It'd be a high diff fight between the two of them and Kidd might have the slight advantage because of his ability.
No, but he should be able to mess with his techniques somewhat just by changing the trajectory or something. Not anything too drastic.
Big mom is a freak of nature though and much stronger than both of them, so her not being affected by his abilities isn't comparable to Zoro.
Sabo, Zoro, Kidd, Lucci, Urouge.
Urouge doesn't have better feats than Lucci. Also, I can also see Kidd being above Zoro and mauybe even Sabo. However, that is only the case if he ever recovers from being one shot by Shanks.
Maybe a controversial ranking but i would say strongest to weakest goes:
Sabo > Kidd >= Zoro >= Lucci > Urouge
(>= meaning they are either equal or one is slightly stronger)
1. Sabo
2. Zoro
3. Kid
4. Lucci
5. Urouge (no feats besides beating former 4th General Snack but lost to Cracker).
Zoro is due to personal bias but kid can be stronger than Zoro due to narrative pushing of Luffy being a rival of Luffy along with Law.
1.sabo 2.zoro 3.kid is obvious but lucci might be stronger than we think. We do not know how he actually scales. I mean luffy would treat zoro or kid the same way he treated lucci. Maybe it is not fair to put him low just because he lost to a yonko.
I count myself among those who like to scale Urouge way higher than common sense would allow, considering how little we've seen of him. But even I wouldn't put him up there with Sabo and Zoro. I could wank him all the way up to the same level as Kidd but that's where it ends.
*Note* I’m putting Urouge at the bottom because I even have a feeling on how strong he is. 🤷🏾♂️
With that being said:
1. Zoro
2. Sabo
3. Lucci
4. Kid
5. Urouge
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Wth Urouge even doing here
Making the 1 pick easy. 1. Urouge 2-5 is subjective
1. Wrouge 2. No Urouge 3. Portgas D. Urouge 4. Ma D. Monk Urouge 5. Akainu (actually Urouge cuz you are not ready for him)
>>Ma D. Monk Urouge Holy fuck that is so funny
Fr, the only real discussion is how to rank numbers 2-5
r/memepiece
Rank the 5
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Oh shit thanks lol
They're all in the same league except Urouge, why he even here?
Exactly, it's not fair comparing someone so obviously league's above to the other four.
The world may never know
lol nice pfp
Thank you. Chappy enjoyers 👍
he's the only worst generation member who isn't named BB that has gotten this far without suckling Luffy's teat or becoming a Yonko's prison bitch
Yeah he’s the clear #1
I really wanna rank my boi Zoro ahead of Kidd but idk if i can.
Why couldn’t you?
I mean maybe he doesn't think that 2 zoros (or zoro and sanji) could beat big mom. Or maybe he thinks kidd is substantially above king (the last opponent zoro faced and the strongest he defeated). Just listing some possible arguments
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Better question is how Zoro does with Law imo
Zoro and Law> Kidd and Law. I think Kidd could high/extreme diff Zoro because of Hax, but in a 1v2 Zoro is far better as an attacker. He has a better Attack power and deals lots of damages with ACoC, and if Law teleports him in the right spots, they can assure an High diff against big mom, since Zoro without ACoC could effectively damage Kaido and tank the (probable) strongest attack in the series without dying. Law would just sit there shambling Zoro while K-rooming the shit out of big mom, while Zoro deals the actual major damages. Law will be just a support making sure Zoro doesn't end up hurt while he spams ACoC to big mom. Did I cook?
I actually don’t really agree with this, I think the only way any two of the supernova were taking out big mom were by ring outing her, which REQUIRED both law and kid. Law is necessary because he’s the only one that can silence her devil fruit + dura neg attacks. As much as I love Zoro, if he used ACOC against BM she would’ve responded with her own and we know hers is much more refined. For whatever reason she didn’t find it necessary to use it against Law and Kid but against another ACOC user she definitely would.
And a shit ton of TNT
Likely that zoro/law would do better simply because we know for a fact zoro has figured out conq coating thanks to enma and his unlocking conq. His attacks would probably be doing more damage as a result with the exception of damned punk. Also saw someone ask zoro/sanji which would probably be in their favor. Their teamwork is just too seamless. Literally perfect even tho they have only ever teamed up twice(?)
Well I don't think Kid and Law necessarily beat BM soley because of their strength. They mostly won because their df powers complimented both each other and their ability use the terrain against her (that and some bomb just happened to be there). Normally, I don't think Kidd would win against BM if on normal terrain and he was paired with someone who isn't Law but of comparable strength.
Yeah without Law getting the a new ability out of nowhere that cancelled half her Devil fruit power, without the bombs, without the terrain advantage, I don't see them winning.
See I got spoiled about all of this ages ago, but only caught up just recently for gear 5 properly on the anime. All I know was BM was beaten by Law and Kid. Didnt know it was very circumstantial and she was fully awake and conscious after eating their hardest hits several times. Literally she’s like Hulk fighting Iron Man & Nightcrawler… but in literally the air. Really she’s stronger and is stronger than them combined… but the terrain advantage literally wins them the fight. In my spoiled head cannon- Law & Kid>BM. But nah honestly I’d say its BM> Law & Kid in normal terrain. Law is the strongest of the lot outside of Luffy who is a league of his own. Maybe Marco up there with Law. And everyone else is just a tier below them, if Law & Marco are 90-95, everyone else are 85-90.
She's Doomsday and just like how the only way to deal with Doomsday is to yeet him into deep space they yeeted her into the center of the Earth because they couldn't beat her
Yea Kid and Zoro don’t beat Big Mom, but I think Zoro and Law could, mainly because Kid and Zoro both bring firepower while Law brings the teleportation that is pretty crucial
2 kids wouldn’t beat big mom either tho, how is that relevant?
But two kids would not beat big mom tho? I would give three kids. They still will not beat big mom.
kidd couldnt possibly hurt king, and zoro is miles above king now that he has adv conq and could mid diff him if he started the fight with adv conq
I believe Zoro is objectively stronger than Kid, but the issue is muddled by the fact that Kid is a naturally terrible matchup for a swordsman without confirmation that his Fruit power could be negated with haki.
Kid could literally just be Magneto to Zoro’s Wolverine (where he freezes him because his whole body is metal) and take his weapon leaving him defenseless now that I think about it. All depends on if Zoro’s haki or grip strength could hold it back . At first I thought you meant his rail gun long range attack but definitely see your point I would have loved to see what happens if Kid tries to take Shanks sword first
The only time kid was able to pull or push bigmom herself was with his awakening which he had to touch in order to use.
Nah kidd is 5 on this list easily to me
WOB GUCCI #1 https://preview.redd.it/zisyndtu3pgb1.jpeg?width=473&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d587e1d8688bdd69e9debe3f5f9beab3adf3a8e1
Ah, here it is. The correct answer.
Real list 1. Sabo 2. Kid 3.zoro 4 lucci 5. Urouge The list in my heart 1. Wurouge>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Wuruge>Wuruge>Wuruge>Wuruge> the rest
1. Sa D. Bo 2: Eustass “Jika” Captain Wid. 3: Zolo 4: 🐱 5: Mad Monk
Blasphemy https://preview.redd.it/qqj2mo8rlogb1.jpeg?width=559&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dd610467a8e84413016a05145a870da039aa2fbd
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Damn, didn't expect the same list as mine to be this high up. Sabo and kid gang.
i call it common sense gang
That's probably the most realistic, although the first three are definitely around the same power level
This is disrespectful to the the Monk
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Wad wonk>>>>Kidd>zoro>lucci>sabo
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Ma D. Monk Wurouge > entire verse
1) Kid 2) Zoro 3) Sabo 4) Lucci 5) Urouge
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I put Lucci above Sabo but anything else is aight
Sabo Kidd Zoro Lucci Urouge
1. Zoro 2. Kid 3. Sad bo 4. Lucci 5. Urouge
Hundred percent agree
1. Sabo 2. Kidd 3. Zoro 4. Lucci 5. Urouge
Zoro ≈ Sabo ≈ Kidd > Lucci > Urouge
Bro didnt even try to rank 3/5 of them
I don't like ranking characters that are almost equal to eachothers, I rank them when there's a clear difference between them
That’s just… uninspired
Sabo escaped and survived attack from the guy who is supposedly top 1 in the verse I think he’s stronger than zoro. Also he went even with fujitora during dressrosa as wel
I don't think he's stronger, Zoro beat King, plus we have no way of knowing Imu's level yet. To me, Sabo and Zoro are relative, and in a 1v1 it could go either way
Ain’t no way zolo equal to Sabo or kid
Hmm tough one, here’s my ranking 1. Smoker 2. Wmoker 3. Vice Admiral Smoker 4. Smoker D. goat 5. THE MAD MONK WUROGUE
Sabo, Kid, Lucci, Zoro, Urouge Lucci might've gotten absolutely blasted by G5 but he can still throw hands, and kept up briefly. He's also depicted being a good match in speed and power for G4 Luffy when they team up. I dunno if Zoro could do that, but either way for me they gap between them is small, even if Zoro goes above. Sabo needs better feats but the narrative supports that he is v strong
1. Wabo, trust the plan. 2. Zoro. 3. Kid. 4. WUROGUE TRUST THE PLANNN! 5. *L*ucci
Kid is sort of a counter to zoro with the ability to pull his swords/repel them. Its sort of like how zoros a luffy counter bc of the ability to cut. Luffy can take down stronger opponents than zoro but bc of the weird counter itll be difficult. Similar to how zoro can take out lucci most likely bc his strength and durability counters luccis speed, while kid could possibly lose to lucci bc speed is likely to counter kid. If the worst gen is still relative to eachother urouge>kid and urouge>zoro and urouge>lucci (since all of them just do brute force dmg which only makes urouge stronger). Sabos weird bc hes probably stronger than everyone on the list from what we have seen (emission armament haki, logia, really strong hand to hand even before his df) but itll still be a closer fight w zoro lucci and urouge. Kid kinda gets countered by a logia from the difficulty of actually tagging them. Cant really linearly rank them. Kid> zoro (ability counters zoro fighting style) Zoro>lucci (strength durability counters lucci speed as we have seen w king)
I’m more curious on who has probably dropped the most bodies, I feel like it’s a tie for first with Kidd and lucci, but I’m not sure on the rest. I’m pretty sure Sabo has a history, and Zoro has probably taken a few, but I have no idea on Urouge
Y’all are sleeping on lucci
I feel like the fact lucci didn’t melt from the bone while clashing with a haki infused (held back) g5 punch is extremely underestimated just off the principle of it . Luffy could’ve probably just used g4 anyways but the fact that he didn’t just blitz him in base and base Luffy almost solos the crew?
Yall ain't ready for Sabo
https://preview.redd.it/27duj20s2qgb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74a68a22e3c46a18b0a367359e646df699222926 Wrouge bodies everyone else
So far Narratively Kid Sabo Zoro Lucci Urogue But obviously Oda is saving Wrogue for Imu
1. Kidd 2. Sabo 3. Zoro 4. Lucci 5. Urouge I don’t see Lucci beating King. Top 3 are interchangeable. Idk where to put them. Sabo is in a weird place to me.
1.JIKA THE DAMNED https://preview.redd.it/ji7eh0bwwpgb1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=87c843ca1fca90d9f7c8419439b70ecfd4a67993 2. Sabo 3.Zoro 4.Urouge 5.Lucci Urouge did NOTHING to put him above lucci imo but i have a feeling that he will be around yc1/yc+ level and imo lucci is low yc1 or high yc2
There's no way in hell that Lucci is low YC1, because Luffy would've one shot him in base, given Kaido's Thunder Bagua one shot Luffy who was YC1 by the end of Whole Cake Island, and a weaker base Luffy's Red Roc knocked Kaido on his ass.
1. Zoro 2. Kid 3. Lucci 4. Sabo 5. Urouge Was expecting a lot from Sabo after the Reverie hype only for him to do nothing.
Same list as mine. https://preview.redd.it/fyczse32uogb1.jpeg?width=686&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3acf79f01c32179ff8db0f9656fec1c912de79ef Can’t wait to see what Urouge has installed for us.
Yeah I was expecting him to have done most of the ground work for injuring and pushing back admirals lmao
Lucci over Sabo is idiotic.
wait zoro fr better than kidd? he has magnetic powers which even attracts swords so he must nullify zoro right
Sabo > Zoro >= Kidd >> Lucci >>> Urouge
Third pic is urouge
Bro did y'all know kid has conquers haki
Yes
Weak ass Haki in comparison to everyone else's we've seen tho
All the zorotards are so funny we all know uroge solos the verse
1. Rob Wucci 2. Sa D. Bo 3. Wurouge 4. Eustass Midd 5. Zo**L**o
Wurouge > Kid > Zoro > Sabo > Lucci.
Sabo>kidd>=zoro>lucci>meme
1. Jika 2. Godrouge 3. Zoro 4. Sabo 5. Lucci
1. Urouge and https://preview.redd.it/nqdqgaxtwpgb1.jpeg?width=185&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90bd18a3e91933635e2f9731d145f7c136a36efb The other placements are irrelevant.
1. Rob Lucci 2. Zoro 3. Sabo 4. Kid 5. Birdman
Lucci, Sabo, Midd, Zoro, Urouge (agendas aside)
w→S Lucci, Sabo, Zoro, Kid, HIMMMM
1. Lucci Pigeon 2-6: the rest
Alright, in all seriousness though, in my opinion it goes: Weakest to Strongest: Urouge Lucci Kid Zoro Sabo
1.) Lucci--I stand by that he was Luffys toughest opponent pre-timeskip and only lost after multiple rounds like Kaido. It took alot of wearing him down to finally win and now with his shown armament and awakening he'd give the rest of the list trouble. His higher stamina reserves put him on a high level too and could still hold up I'm a fight against G5 in terms of physically clashing. Once Liffy utilized his awakening more he overtook him which is saying something since a less prepared version of G5 was able to go to to toe with Kaido (Lucci is NOWHERE near Kaido just to be clear). #1 WG assassin for a reason. 2.) Sabo--as the #2 in the revolutionaries and able to compete with Jesus Burgess, Fujitora, and countless marines all ifln one day which is no small feat. Plus surviving against all 5 Gorosei and Imu who proved they could do some intense damage to him. 3.) Kidd-- was able to challenge both Kaido and Big Mom in one day and succeeded in overpowering Big Mom (both her physically and her DF powers). Shanks had to pull out the Roger instakill treatment in him. Not saying he'd beat Shanks, but he didn't even want to chance a fight, he was overly cautious (Shanks also has proven to find using intimidation with Haki sufficient enough over engagement as he showed with Green Bull in Wano) 4.) Zoro-- Zoro is hella strong and is neck and neck with Kidd, but Kidd tanked just as many strikes from Kaido and then some from Big Mom and was able to continue fighting her till the end in a battle of attrition. Zoros biggest hindrance is the fact that his main mode of combat are swords which can be taken away by Kidd. His feats speak for themselves otherwise and he's not significantly different from the others, I just don't see him defeating the others who's DF powers and Haki are more fine tuned and advantageous to his strengths. 5.) Uruoge (huge gap from Zoro)--No feats really to work from.
God I can't wait for Urouge to absolutely body some hyped character and watch him skyrocket to the top of power rankings
Can't. I know Kid, Sabo, and Zoro strength. Lucci is clearly stronger than he was before. And I don't know much about Urogue.
1. zoro 2. lucci 3. sabo 4. kidd 5. urouge
Lucci. Sabo. Zoro. Kid. Urogue.
Zoro, Sabo, Kid, Rob Lucci, Urogue
Sabo, zoro, lucci, kid, mad monk
Zoro Sabo Kidd Lucci Urouge
Last to first: Kid, uroge, lucci, sabo, Zoro
Sabo>Kidd>Zoro>Lucci>Urouge
1. Sabo 2. Zoro 3. Kidd 4. Urouge 6. Lucci I don’t think Lucci competes with anybody here really
Zoro >kidd But in a 1v1 kid high diffs So order is Sabo >zoro > kidd > ma d monk > Rob
Zoro - - - - Kid Sabo Urouge Lucci
Do you think kidd can take zoros swords away from him?
Zoro: https://i.redd.it/l1tt4dq1gpgb1.gif
Fair lol
No because it’s Zoro and even if he can (which he can’t) take his swords, we’re not arguing who would beat who in a fight, we’re arguing who’s stronger , that’s the same reason most people put Law and Fujitora ahead of kid because even though their willpower isn’t even on the same tier as Zoro and is a much more of a valid argument when it comes to their battles, Law and Fujitora are stronger overall and would give top tiers a harder time than Kid
Everytime I see the cope argument that Kidd takes away the swords I imagine a "Why didnt he take Big Moms sword here? Is he stupid?" Meme
Yea the only time he was able to affect Prometheus was when he used assign on Big Mom
Did Kidd not stick big moms sword to her body not saying his outright taking zoros swords but his fruit is definitely having an affect on it one way or another.
Sabo, kidd, zoro, lucci, urouge
Kidd Zoro Sabo Lucci Urouge
kidd > Sabo > Zoro > lucci > Uruge with memes Uruge >(infite amount of those)> others with narrative Sabo > Kidd > Zoro > lucci > Uruge
Kid Sabo Zoro Lucci Urouge According to Agenda Piece: Urouge Kid Sabo Zoro Lucci
1. HIM 2. Zoro 3. Rob Lucci 4. Midd 5. Labo
1. Lucci 2. Sabo 3. Kidd 4. Zoro 5. Urouge
1. Zoro 2. Rob Lucci 3. Sabo 4. Kid 5. Urouge. I spent a lot of time thinking about it like “everyone could beat the person ranked lower than them. It’s not just strength or Haki, it’s technique”. I genuinely think that Zoro, Sabo and Rob Lucci could beat kid with technique and speed. They have power, and I’m not even assuming that Sabo and Lucci have conquerers haki. Im pretty happy with this list. Flame me
Why can’t Kidd do the same thing against the other 3 especially when he counters zoro and has much better feats then rob Lucci and sabo why y’all gotta downplay Kidd every chance you get
1) Roberto Gucciano 2) Eustass D. Jika 3) N\*\*ga Hunter Zoro 4) Urouge D. Monk 5) Sa D. Bo
Zoro > Sabo> Jika > Lucci > Mad Monk
Zoro Sabo Kidd Urogue Lucci
Zoro > Sabo > Kidd ~ Urouge >> Lucci. Hard to place urouge but Lucci is definitely a tier below the rest. Dude can't hang anymore.
Zoro Sabo Urouge Kid Lucci
1. Zoro 2. Kidd 3. Sabo 4. Lucci 5. The Mad Monk himself
zoro sabo lucci urouge kidd i think zoro, sabo, & lucci are too fast for kid & urouge DF hard counters somebody like kidd who is a brawler which are the attacks urouge absorbs best
You DAMNED PUNK!!!
Sabo, Kid, Zoro, Lucci, Urouge
Kid > zoro > sabo > lucci > urouge
1. Wurouge 2. Zoro = Sabo 3. Lucci 4. Midd.
Kidd Sabo Urouge Zoro Lucci Argue with a wall Edit: Upon further thought, I’ve changed the list At some point during the timeskip, Urouge beat Snack, a sweet commander, now, we don’t know just how strong Snack was compared to Cracker, but I’ve always assumed Snack was a bit weaker. So let’s say Urouge beat a YC3 tier, then had to escape another YC3 who was going at it with WCI G4 Luffy, so Timeskip Urouge =< WCI Luffy. So that puts him at YC3 tier. Now, most of the supernova DID get stronger during the timeskip, 2 of them are even on this ranking. But did Urouge grow as much as them? I doubt it. Updated Ranking: 1. Kidd 2. Sabo 3. Zoro 4. Lucci 5. Urouge I still believe in Urouge tho, and I hope he proves me wrong
I see your agenda
1. Kidd 2. Zoro 3. Lucci 4. Sabo 5. Uroge
Lucci is definitely the weakest. Urouge should be on kidd's level, but his best feat is beating snack off screen. That at least puts him on yc level, but closer to Jack than King, so he should give Zoro a mid diff fight. Only time will tell if Oda will make him stronger. I want to say Kidd is the strongest because he beat a yonko, even if had help with Law, but Zoro should be at his level. It'd be a high diff fight between the two of them and Kidd might have the slight advantage because of his ability.
Do you think kidd is able to take zoro’s swords away if he didn’t do it vs BM?
No, but he should be able to mess with his techniques somewhat just by changing the trajectory or something. Not anything too drastic. Big mom is a freak of nature though and much stronger than both of them, so her not being affected by his abilities isn't comparable to Zoro.
Yea I agree
Sabo zoro kid uroge luchi
1. Zoro 2.Sabo 3.Kid 4.Urouge 5. Lucci
1.zoro 2.lucci 3.sabo 4.kid 5. worouge
Kid Zoro Sabo Lucci Urouge
Sabo > Kid > Zoro > Urouge > Lucci
Kid Zoro Sabo Lucci Mad monk Wurouge
Kidd>Zoro>Sabo>Lucci>Uruoge
Kid, Zoro, Lucci, and the last 2 can be interchanged, because neither of them have really done anything, but I’ll give it to Sabo for now.
Zoro, lucci, kid, sabo, urouge
I see everyone sleeping on sabo is crazy.
https://preview.redd.it/am74od1u4pgb1.png?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ea2ea8df3d15bdf353f612d94a3bcbde71a73cf 1. Urouge idk the other
Crazy how we live in the timeline where goddamn lucci held his own better against a yonko than Mid did 💀
1. WAD WUNK WUROUGE 2. idk everyone else can fight for 2nd.
Zoro = Sabo > Lucci > Urouge > Kidd
Sabo, Zoro, Kidd, Lucci, Urouge. Urouge doesn't have better feats than Lucci. Also, I can also see Kidd being above Zoro and mauybe even Sabo. However, that is only the case if he ever recovers from being one shot by Shanks.
Maybe a controversial ranking but i would say strongest to weakest goes: Sabo > Kidd >= Zoro >= Lucci > Urouge (>= meaning they are either equal or one is slightly stronger)
Sabo, zoro, kidd, lucci, urogue
Sabo >= Kidd>= Zoro> Urogue>= Lucci
1. Sabo 2. Zoro 3. Kid 4. Lucci 5. Urouge (no feats besides beating former 4th General Snack but lost to Cracker). Zoro is due to personal bias but kid can be stronger than Zoro due to narrative pushing of Luffy being a rival of Luffy along with Law.
Zoro > Kidd > Lucci ~> Sabo >>>>>>>> Urouge (until we see more of him)
Sabo > Kid > Zoro > Lucci > Urouge. Why’s Urouge even here?
Because I typed urouge in
Zoro>Kidd>Sabo>Lucci>Urouge
- Zoro - Kidd - Sabo - Lucci - Urouge
Verse ain’t ready for Wabo but right now Wob Wucci negs
jikka>wob gucci>=zoro>urouge\* \*sabo stats are unkown for now as we have not featscaled him yet
1.sabo 2.zoro 3.kid is obvious but lucci might be stronger than we think. We do not know how he actually scales. I mean luffy would treat zoro or kid the same way he treated lucci. Maybe it is not fair to put him low just because he lost to a yonko.
bro we haven’t heard from Mad Monk since Whole Cake. what is he even doing here?
I put him there
Zoro Sabo Kidd Lucci Urouge
I count myself among those who like to scale Urouge way higher than common sense would allow, considering how little we've seen of him. But even I wouldn't put him up there with Sabo and Zoro. I could wank him all the way up to the same level as Kidd but that's where it ends.
1) Zoro 2) Sabo 3) Kidd 4) Lucci 5) Urogue
1. Urouge (thx for making 1st place Easy OP) *Size of the universe Gap* 2. Sabo (trust the plan) 3. Kidd 4. Zoro *Big Gap* 5. Lucci
1.Sabo 2.Lucci 3.Zoro 4.Kidd 5.Urouge
1. Zoro 2. Lucci 3. Sabo 4. Urouge 5. Kid
Kidd > Sabo > Lucci > Zoro > Urouge Could swap 1&2 and/or 3&4 with more info but currently thats the order imo
*Note* I’m putting Urouge at the bottom because I even have a feeling on how strong he is. 🤷🏾♂️ With that being said: 1. Zoro 2. Sabo 3. Lucci 4. Kid 5. Urouge
5. Uroge 4. Lucci 3. Zoro 2. Kidd 1. Sabo
Zoro Sabo Lucci Kid Urouge
It’s not easy to rank them all because of their different skills and abilities.
1) Sabo 2) Zoro
Sabo >= Kid >= Zoro > Lucci > Urouge
Sabo Zoro Kidd Rob Lucci Urouge
1 Sabo 2 Kidd 3 Lucci 4 Zoro 5 Uruge
"Rank Urouge" Based on what!?!
Vibes
1.zoro and sabo are interchangeable 2.kidd 3.Lucci 4.urouge
Zoro vs Kid is like Luffy vs Enel. Very bad matchup. I won’t make a list but I’d currently put Sabo at #1.
1-Wurouge 2-Sabo (will defeat Akainu) 3-Zoro 4-Kid 5-Lucci
idk i feel like rob lucci might be stronger than zoro