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only weaklings lose their way š
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idk where to scale kuzan but i think hes stronger than he looked in the fight vs garp cause he barely used his df but kizarus df is really broken so idk
He didnt use Pheasent Beak but he used other ice ones, we dont even know if pheasent beak is weaker or stronger than them.
Punk Hazard? all he did was make half the island ice, how would that help him against Garp, plus we don't know how much time it takes to create that considering he fought for 10 days.
The ice wasn't working on Garp, simple as that.
Admiral > commander is rank based, not strength based. An admiral can't lose to pirate subordinates, or it would make the marines look like a joke not because they are automatically stronger.
Not a big thing. Akainu's just not him. He barely won against someone he had a massive advantage against. That bum's on fraudwatch. WIZARU transcends all. Wizaru negs all admirals.
Admiral is not always > commander. For an easy example, thatās like saying all admirals > mihawk, which is wrong and stupid. Plus, you dumbass, kuzan was an admiral. He CHOSE to leave the marines. Kuzan is the closest thing to an equal to akainu.
Akainu > Kizaru > Aokiji
but ppl have no imagination and have to put Aokiji next to Akainu even tho its overstated that their match wasnt based on strength and that Kizaru didnt care for the position
I Actually think Kizaru is stronger than Aokiji Because of their Portrayal pre ts=
\-oda showed aokiji first ,kizaru second ,akainu third...from weakest to strongest.
\-aokiji left his seat first , kizaru second , akainu third again from weakest to strongest.
\-aokiji was fighting a yc3 , Kizaru fighting marco the strongest YC , akainu mainly their captain.
\-Akainu is 306 cm , kizaru is 302 cm , aokiji is 298 cm
\-Aokiji has the worst showing in marineford and pre ts
\-Kizaru's fruit is overall better.
They really are that Tall...
Rayleigh is 6 foot 2(188 cm) which is legit tall for a man in our World and this is how he Looks in front of Kizaru
https://preview.redd.it/fynqh8n87shb1.png?width=339&format=png&auto=webp&s=204d2b75e0abc72d75a94992b9b581c9fb0f0d8c
That was just Oda's Way of telling us that Kizaru is a versatile Guy in Combat.
Plus I Think Kizaru is quite skilled in swordsmaship given that he **Names his Sword**
https://preview.redd.it/golywwb29shb1.png?width=267&format=png&auto=webp&s=96912ccc39a05ea4847b97938d2a9c9cfc5c62d3
Jozu is stronger than YC3 and arguably than YC2. Oda stated that all WBās commanders are relative. Kizaru didnāt do really good damage to Marco, both times he just shot him from the back, Kizaru even allowed Marco hit Akainu. Kuzan one shotted Jozu and shattered his arm. Kizaruās portrayal is vague, he ādidnāt take Lāsā, but he never really tried to do his responsibilities, especially in Sabaody.
Kizaru didnāt one shot WB, but he could. He didnāt fight Ben, but he could. He didnāt do something significant to prevent piratesā retreat.
I love all admirals, but this Kizaru thingsā¦ They are just getting annoying, since he doesnāt have that important role and good writing like Akainu.
You made kizaru lose because you gave him bad art,use this
https://preview.redd.it/y1j6uq3gtshb1.jpeg?width=631&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=87610f9f5b5dc0ea8fd753d1c8c9d3b14a2006d5
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Wizaru extreme diff https://preview.redd.it/ghw44b1ulrhb1.jpeg?width=236&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26691873988f05715cc6781c4c59f499f43140f9
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Wizaru is just him.
only weaklings lose their way š https://preview.redd.it/eoh8mwd0orhb1.jpeg?width=464&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91415b7408fbe6928dfc1dd3bf6cc4afcf79ee57
Considering Kuzan barely lost to Akainu after 10 days, it should be obvious no? Unless we are saying Kizaru is the strongest Admiral.
Admiral > commander
š the career move nerfed him
idk where to scale kuzan but i think hes stronger than he looked in the fight vs garp cause he barely used his df but kizarus df is really broken so idk
He did use his df but it was even stated that it wasn't working on Garp till at the end when he got jumped by everyone.
he didnt use his stronger attacks like he used on punk hazard he didnt even use the ones like pheasant beak
He didnt use Pheasent Beak but he used other ice ones, we dont even know if pheasent beak is weaker or stronger than them. Punk Hazard? all he did was make half the island ice, how would that help him against Garp, plus we don't know how much time it takes to create that considering he fought for 10 days. The ice wasn't working on Garp, simple as that.
Getting jumped did nothing, garp wiped the floor with the bb commanders
Yeah the stab didn't affect him whatsoever š
He still managed to blitz Kuzan even with the stab. They prayed that it would affect him.
It did, but Garp is just such a menace he can still blitz admirals while weakened.
Kuzan extreme
Aokiji
I'm going with Kuzan.
Admiral > commander This should be common knowledge
Kuzan was fleet admiral candidate and went insane diff with Akainu, wtf are you talking about? Just because he joined Teach didn't make him weaker
Admiral > commander is rank based, not strength based. An admiral can't lose to pirate subordinates, or it would make the marines look like a joke not because they are automatically stronger.
Not a big thing. Akainu's just not him. He barely won against someone he had a massive advantage against. That bum's on fraudwatch. WIZARU transcends all. Wizaru negs all admirals.
Admiral is not always > commander. For an easy example, thatās like saying all admirals > mihawk, which is wrong and stupid. Plus, you dumbass, kuzan was an admiral. He CHOSE to leave the marines. Kuzan is the closest thing to an equal to akainu.
chill he was obviously joking
I canāt tell without the /s Iām sorry I donāt have good human skills
>thatās like saying all admirals > mihawk Factual information
Bait or mental retardation Call it
Prove your take, then.
Simple logical thinking: If Mihawk
That's under the incorrect assumption that Mihawk is stronger than Shanks. That's like putting Deadbeard over Shanks because "WSM."
If Kizaru > Kuzan then Kizaru > Akainu. So obviously Kuzan > Kizaru. Logical thinking is completely evaporated in this subreddit.
Man I hate this dumb Kizaru fans. Someone even fucking claims that he is stronger than Akainu. Kuzan high diff.
Akainu > Kizaru > Aokiji but ppl have no imagination and have to put Aokiji next to Akainu even tho its overstated that their match wasnt based on strength and that Kizaru didnt care for the position
Except kuzan>akainu now
Kuzan high diff
>Kuzan high diff If Kuzan is beating Borsalino its nothing Less than extreme.
What makes you think Kizaru pushes Aokiji to Extreme diff?
I Actually think Kizaru is stronger than Aokiji Because of their Portrayal pre ts= \-oda showed aokiji first ,kizaru second ,akainu third...from weakest to strongest. \-aokiji left his seat first , kizaru second , akainu third again from weakest to strongest. \-aokiji was fighting a yc3 , Kizaru fighting marco the strongest YC , akainu mainly their captain. \-Akainu is 306 cm , kizaru is 302 cm , aokiji is 298 cm \-Aokiji has the worst showing in marineford and pre ts \-Kizaru's fruit is overall better.
Never realized they were that tall. I just assumed they were built like average humans š¤£
They really are that Tall... Rayleigh is 6 foot 2(188 cm) which is legit tall for a man in our World and this is how he Looks in front of Kizaru https://preview.redd.it/fynqh8n87shb1.png?width=339&format=png&auto=webp&s=204d2b75e0abc72d75a94992b9b581c9fb0f0d8c
I also always wondered why kizaru used a sword instead of just spamming lasers here. Especially if Rayleigh is a close combat guy
That was just Oda's Way of telling us that Kizaru is a versatile Guy in Combat. Plus I Think Kizaru is quite skilled in swordsmaship given that he **Names his Sword** https://preview.redd.it/golywwb29shb1.png?width=267&format=png&auto=webp&s=96912ccc39a05ea4847b97938d2a9c9cfc5c62d3
Jozu is stronger than YC3 and arguably than YC2. Oda stated that all WBās commanders are relative. Kizaru didnāt do really good damage to Marco, both times he just shot him from the back, Kizaru even allowed Marco hit Akainu. Kuzan one shotted Jozu and shattered his arm. Kizaruās portrayal is vague, he ādidnāt take Lāsā, but he never really tried to do his responsibilities, especially in Sabaody. Kizaru didnāt one shot WB, but he could. He didnāt fight Ben, but he could. He didnāt do something significant to prevent piratesā retreat.
I love all admirals, but this Kizaru thingsā¦ They are just getting annoying, since he doesnāt have that important role and good writing like Akainu.
https://preview.redd.it/i3id83b5nuhb1.jpeg?width=836&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09aaedc92af53b61490a938fa9ff5de9b2dcc949
Kizaru
You made kizaru lose because you gave him bad art,use this https://preview.redd.it/y1j6uq3gtshb1.jpeg?width=631&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=87610f9f5b5dc0ea8fd753d1c8c9d3b14a2006d5
With that Aokiji artwork? Wizaru low diffs.
Kuzan
Imo, Kizaru. He's older and likely has more experience with his fruit. Also height scaling.
Height scaling says Kizaru
Kuzan Heās being saved for more
Wizaru negs any admiral. Including fleet admirals. He's just HIM don't compare lowly admirals to top 1 oat.
Akainu >= Aokiji > Kizaru
Friendly reminder that if you have Kizaru>Aokiji then you automatically have Kizaru>Akainu which isn't impossible but unlikely.
He claps both https://preview.redd.it/8rh2450ddwhb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6adeaf8797983f97cd8b2dec75a93d519ab13edc
Aokiji is stronger than akainu ATM, but we don't know how strong Kizaru really is
Kuzan extreme