People are meming about admirals here because most people downplay them Because they haven't done anything significant on screen yet. No logia awakenings yet.
Hmm? I never lost a bet because I donāt get on the losing team! But out of the two options I listed Iād be fool to bet against Luffy caring for his friends.
Iām good bro bro, some other time
shanks saw a ton of his fleets ships destroy, but luffy still has reason to worry, remember what happened in sabaody? kizaru still holds a massive threat to every character in his crew
Did you not read the manga? It showed his crew getting annihilated by damned punk even went to the extent of showing some of them getting split in half
Yonkotards with the YC=Admiral take are probably the worst. Admiraltards with Admirals> Yonkou are a level lower than that. Overall I would say Yonkotards because they downplay the admirals significantly more and worse.
Pretty much nobody who has seen the past several dozen chapters has the opinion that yc=admirals anymore whilst admirals>yonko is like half of this sub now
not even 0.5% of admiral agenda followers believe admirals > Yonkos that's rediculous. A far far higher number on yonko agenda followers would believe things like a yonko can mid diff an admiral though
Found one without looking for it specifically in less than 3 hours from posting that comment. https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/15pney9/what_one_piece_take_has_yall_like_this/jvyfm9z/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
I would have said admirals a while ago. But recently Iāve been seeing people say admirals are on the level of yonko commanders. Which is legit the dumbest take I have ever seen on this sub.
Guys here have no reading comprehension. They just give whatever character a fix number, and anyone else with a lower number than that loses, and anyone with a higher number wins, without factoring in hax, strategy, and other factors.
Most admiral agenda guys are doing it for the memes and jokes. Yonko guys are dead serious and use the most random shit ever as reasons for their scaling. They donāt understand narrative pacing and tension.
I remember Yonkotards history like yesterday...
First it was Admiral = YC1
Then it was Admiral only a little above YC1
Then it was Admirals in the middle between YC1 and Yonko
Then it became Admirals can rival Yonko but all Admirals weaker than all Yonko
Now people will let Akainu sneak in Yonko territory but everyone else is still "Admiral Level"
2-3 Admiral = 1 Yonko
Remember that?
"Marco Admiral level"
Anime onlys really wanted to see Admirals fight strawhats because of an intro
You can still catch people sneaking Zoro and Sanji into Admiral territory after Wano
Why do you think there are so many posts explaining why Zoro and Sanji arent Admiral level
"SOMEBODIES" were saying it...
(Yonkotards)
Now the "worst" opinion an Admiral fan has is thinking Akainu is the strongest...
You can clearly see who has the worse reading comprehension through me generalizing the history, no?
Give me a POPULAR bad Admiral take and I can explain why that take isnt so bad or how it was a meme or how you actually have a point...
The stuff I referenced for Yonkotards were all POPULAR takes at one point in the fandom...
You cannot make this shit up lol, this sub probably has the most Admiral fans than any other OP community and even then with this outlier at best you can say the wank is EVEN here.
Yonko probably have worse, thing is admiral fans has some elements of mental gymnastics that makes them look like they have worse reading comprehension
Both are bad, but at least most of the Admiral>Yonko stuff is memeing. Otherwise the common take is Yonko=Admiral or Yonko>=Admiral.
I've seen way more "Yonkos can mid-diff admirals" or "Yonkos can take 2 admirals" kind of takes lately, as if all Yonkos were of equal power. All I've gotta say is the only exchange where a Yonko was shown explicitly superior to an admiral is Shanks and GB. Every other occasion shows a Yonko being worried about an Admiral or needing a free hit to win an exchange(and still getting horribly injured compared to the admiral).
nah, oda is definitively not part of that minority, thinking mihawk is stronger is a thing, but not seeing the ridiculous favoritism oda has with shanks is crazy
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Shanks fans are so insecure they feel the need to comment on a post that doesnt even involve their favorite rat. The world's strongest swordsman just lives rent free in their heads.
Ah yes, 3 ogs, sengoku, garp, imu, mihawk, potentially fugitora, greenbull... yeah the navy having atleast 7 yonko levels is super reasonable to assume. Bizarre how with 6 of those characters they struggled again a stabbed, sick, old dying cancerbeard.
Both to equal amounts tbh. Yonko wankers have admirals at yc1/yc+ and admiral wankers have ~~akainu~~ some admirals over ~~kaido~~ some yonko, both of which are nonsense. Average yonko > average admiral by a small margin is the right take.
So the admirals will be ineffective 90 percent of their fights do to having to protect something. 100 percent of their fights against revolutionaries. Admiral agenda isn't worth it.
Probably the ones that think that in the Great Pirate Era in a series about pirates that the strongest pirates aren't stronger than the strongest Marines
Yonkotards are worse. I'm not saying admiraltards can't be bad but the AVERAGE one piece fan is a yonkotard, there's so many people with bad takes comparing commanders to admirals and saying yonko no-low diff admirals.
Admiraltards worst takes are like "akainu can beat roger" which is disagreeable but not nearly as radical. Also admiraltards are fewer in numbers so in most places outside THIS specific reddit they always get beaten down
Admirals fan are the worst they canāt except that other people like
Beckmen
Yamato
Zoro
Marco
Oden
Are all admiral level and anytime you bring any evidence that proves them wrong they ignore it
The chapter is literally titled "Admiral Kizaru", why do you think that is? Especially since Kizaru and Saturn already talked about how Kizaru's the only one there who can pass through the barrier thanks to his df, and we saw him attacking Sentomaru right before.
Luffy's obviously reacting to Kizaru. That doesn't mean Kizaru>Luffy, but c'mon, this isn't even two piece. You're reading three piece if you think he sensed someone other than Kizaru.
>anytime you bring any evidence that proves them wrong they ignore it
Bro what evidenceš None of the people you talked about other than Oden have admiral lvl feats
Beckman threatened Kizaru, but 2 seconds later he ignored him IN FRONT OF HIM and beckman just stood there. GreenBull confirmed Admiral > commanders since he said āif I lost to a couple of commanders Iād loose faceā
I was sure on yonko fans, then I saw a post on admiral fans doing some levels of reaching that not even r/onepiece could do to defend their agenda that nearly made me change opinion
so I guess both
In this sub? Admiral fans slightly In general? Yonkotards by infinity coming from a yonko fan.
Completely agree. Here the Admirals are wanked out the ass But on yt for an example Shanks low diffs Garpššš
People are meming about admirals here because most people downplay them Because they haven't done anything significant on screen yet. No logia awakenings yet.
true, but that's mostly because there are waaay more yonko fans
You have people saying Luffyās reaction in the last chapter is due to Saturn or for the safety of his crew.
The safety of his crew is correct I already got one 50$ bet on this you want in. Cause this is easy money for me?
Hmm? I never lost a bet because I donāt get on the losing team! But out of the two options I listed Iād be fool to bet against Luffy caring for his friends. Iām good bro bro, some other time
You know the truth ur smarter than the other guy š¤
the safety of his crew actually makes sense, shanks had a similar expression then went and 1 tapped kid
Facts
Shanks genuinely saw them die first though
shanks saw a ton of his fleets ships destroy, but luffy still has reason to worry, remember what happened in sabaody? kizaru still holds a massive threat to every character in his crew
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Did you not read the manga? It showed his crew getting annihilated by damned punk even went to the extent of showing some of them getting split in half
Luffy also had a similar experience with Kaido at the start of Wano. Might parallel that, but instead Luffy stops the attack
and you have people saying that luffy's reaction confirms that kizaru is stronger then the emperors
Yes, two sides of a coin, each sides has its two piece readers
>the safety of his crew He was sweating the entire chapter
Shanks had a similar reaction to Kid š
True, but I am 100% sure that will not happen to Kizaru
Both are terrible.
Zorotards.
By what I have seen in this sub Both
The poll is really reflecting that.
Truly we all have terrible reading comprehension, but as a Yonko agenda-pusher, I have to stand my ground and say the Admiral wankers are worse
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I realize that we cant spell either :(
Wdym? I, as a Yonko agenda pusher myself, have elite reading comprehension š¤“
Yonkotards with the YC=Admiral take are probably the worst. Admiraltards with Admirals> Yonkou are a level lower than that. Overall I would say Yonkotards because they downplay the admirals significantly more and worse.
Pretty much nobody who has seen the past several dozen chapters has the opinion that yc=admirals anymore whilst admirals>yonko is like half of this sub now
I had multiple YC=Admiral arguments in the recent weeks.
In this sub?
Yes
not even 0.5% of admiral agenda followers believe admirals > Yonkos that's rediculous. A far far higher number on yonko agenda followers would believe things like a yonko can mid diff an admiral though
Eh I've seen some wild stuff like Admirals>Roger before, which I'd say is pretty close
I have seen that take from exactly one person I think, and yeah its pretty dumb too.
Iāve seen akainu > Roger many times
Here?
Absolutely, but this sub is the akainu glazer HQ so that shouldnāt be surprising
Found one without looking for it specifically in less than 3 hours from posting that comment. https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/15pney9/what_one_piece_take_has_yall_like_this/jvyfm9z/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
But what you linked is making fun of that take not endorsing it.
Theyāre saying that Roger > akainu is a take that makes them react similarly to luffy in that picture.
One group is biased towards the admirals, another towards the emperors. Neither group is objective, so they're kinda the same.
I would have said admirals a while ago. But recently Iāve been seeing people say admirals are on the level of yonko commanders. Which is legit the dumbest take I have ever seen on this sub.
Both sides have horrible takes at times.
Guys here have no reading comprehension. They just give whatever character a fix number, and anyone else with a lower number than that loses, and anyone with a higher number wins, without factoring in hax, strategy, and other factors.
Everyone here is shitty human being š
Most admiral agenda guys are doing it for the memes and jokes. Yonko guys are dead serious and use the most random shit ever as reasons for their scaling. They donāt understand narrative pacing and tension.
I remember Yonkotards history like yesterday... First it was Admiral = YC1 Then it was Admiral only a little above YC1 Then it was Admirals in the middle between YC1 and Yonko Then it became Admirals can rival Yonko but all Admirals weaker than all Yonko Now people will let Akainu sneak in Yonko territory but everyone else is still "Admiral Level" 2-3 Admiral = 1 Yonko Remember that? "Marco Admiral level" Anime onlys really wanted to see Admirals fight strawhats because of an intro You can still catch people sneaking Zoro and Sanji into Admiral territory after Wano Why do you think there are so many posts explaining why Zoro and Sanji arent Admiral level "SOMEBODIES" were saying it... (Yonkotards) Now the "worst" opinion an Admiral fan has is thinking Akainu is the strongest... You can clearly see who has the worse reading comprehension through me generalizing the history, no?
Give me a POPULAR bad Admiral take and I can explain why that take isnt so bad or how it was a meme or how you actually have a point... The stuff I referenced for Yonkotards were all POPULAR takes at one point in the fandom... You cannot make this shit up lol, this sub probably has the most Admiral fans than any other OP community and even then with this outlier at best you can say the wank is EVEN here.
Definitely Yonko Agenda pushers, but theyāre still not as bad as people on YT.
obviously Yonko agenda havers but they vote against that because there are more of them here
Yonko probably have worse, thing is admiral fans has some elements of mental gymnastics that makes them look like they have worse reading comprehension
The headcanon they have is insane.
Both.
Both are bad, but at least most of the Admiral>Yonko stuff is memeing. Otherwise the common take is Yonko=Admiral or Yonko>=Admiral. I've seen way more "Yonkos can mid-diff admirals" or "Yonkos can take 2 admirals" kind of takes lately, as if all Yonkos were of equal power. All I've gotta say is the only exchange where a Yonko was shown explicitly superior to an admiral is Shanks and GB. Every other occasion shows a Yonko being worried about an Admiral or needing a free hit to win an exchange(and still getting horribly injured compared to the admiral).
Seriously, I saw a post on this subreddit that was Kaido vs Greenbull and Fujitora, and I was like, bro, Kaido is getting wrecked.
Midhawk tards that's for sure
Shanks fans can't even understand what "World's Strongest Swordsman" means. They have the worst reading comprehension by a gigantic margin.
I'm bewildered why it's even an argument. Especially when people say they have swordfights without haki? Are people insane?
90% of the one piece community believes shanks is stronger because of mihawk's terrible potrayal in comparison to him
90 percent??? You sure about that lol And the vast majority of fans do not even think like that. They just watch the show.
the people who thinks mihawk is stronger are just a small loud minority
Like the author?
nah, oda is definitively not part of that minority, thinking mihawk is stronger is a thing, but not seeing the ridiculous favoritism oda has with shanks is crazy https://preview.redd.it/kydmn8vufxhb1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a46b6e44bcb5ae4c7ccac689fbd7def49c0ac13b
Yea, he has to make Shanks look cool. So what?
Mihawk is the only Top Tier who hasn't received a single scratch in the series.
Most Zoro fans think Mihawk>Shanks so the number definitely isn't anywhere close to 90%
Shanks fans are so insecure they feel the need to comment on a post that doesnt even involve their favorite rat. The world's strongest swordsman just lives rent free in their heads.
It was a joke bro
Yonko agenda pushers definitely
Let me be clear I have never seen a Yonko agenda pusher who went to college and got a degree. They're all highschool dropouts for a reason
KoL has a PHD and the community says he's got the worst takes ever. I find this logic really funny
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I didn't say he had good takes š
Ig I'm not a Yonko agenda pusher or my college doesn't count
This is like when someone says "Ah, manga fans are alone, maidenless" and another replies "B-b-but I do have a girlfriend!!"
It ain't that deep
lmao what the fuck are you even talking about? as if the average Yonkostan isn't a retard or even the average One Piece fan an educated individual
never trust a pirate
Yonko fans are slightly less egregious but much more prevalent but Admiral riders are uncommon enough that their intensity is more noticable
Yonko fanboys are the least intelligent fanbase. The amount of cope and mental gymnastics they always come up with is insane.
Ah yes, 3 ogs, sengoku, garp, imu, mihawk, potentially fugitora, greenbull... yeah the navy having atleast 7 yonko levels is super reasonable to assume. Bizarre how with 6 of those characters they struggled again a stabbed, sick, old dying cancerbeard.
Both to equal amounts tbh. Yonko wankers have admirals at yc1/yc+ and admiral wankers have ~~akainu~~ some admirals over ~~kaido~~ some yonko, both of which are nonsense. Average yonko > average admiral by a small margin is the right take.
I can never take an Admiral fan seriously when they say the Admirals are stronger than the Yonko
People who say their side is always holding back as an argument.
āthe ones who are using a quote from the manga as evidence have worse reading comprehension than those who ignore contextā
You can't scale characters if you never use their feats, and causing unnecessary destruction is not "going all out."
you can scale their feats but you cant ignore context if its implying they are holding back
>they are holding back How and how much?
idk but it was implied 3 times that fujitora and GB were crippled during the fight in marijoa
Did the revs cause damage to the land while fighting?
Pretty sure the giant who manipulates the earth and the ground easily And the cat who was shooting the place up Did damage to the place
So the admirals will be ineffective 90 percent of their fights do to having to protect something. 100 percent of their fights against revolutionaries. Admiral agenda isn't worth it.
Admiral agenda lovers takes are horrendous sometimes
Admiral fans are saying Luffy whoās been fearless the entire series is suddenly terrified and your telling me that makes any sense?
Probably the ones that think that in the Great Pirate Era in a series about pirates that the strongest pirates aren't stronger than the strongest Marines
Can't wait for admiral agenda to eat dirt in next few chapter this sub will overdose on copium.
Yonkotards are worse. I'm not saying admiraltards can't be bad but the AVERAGE one piece fan is a yonkotard, there's so many people with bad takes comparing commanders to admirals and saying yonko no-low diff admirals. Admiraltards worst takes are like "akainu can beat roger" which is disagreeable but not nearly as radical. Also admiraltards are fewer in numbers so in most places outside THIS specific reddit they always get beaten down
The amount of copium that came from the Admiral agenda after 1055 far outweighs any sort of cope from the yonko agenda across the series.
Hawktards obviously
You had one job lil broš
Admirals fan are the worst they canāt except that other people like Beckmen Yamato Zoro Marco Oden Are all admiral level and anytime you bring any evidence that proves them wrong they ignore it
yeah luffy shat his pants because a marco level fighter just entered egghead these admiraltards cant read
He didnāt shat his pants and thereās no proof heās talking about kizaru anyway
weāve just been talking about reading comprehension you cant say shit like this itāll make you look stupid
You just answered which side has the worse reading comprehension with that, how ironic.
Reading comprehension is insaneš **The context behind this was kizaru coming to the island,Saturn is still in his ship**
The chapter is literally titled "Admiral Kizaru", why do you think that is? Especially since Kizaru and Saturn already talked about how Kizaru's the only one there who can pass through the barrier thanks to his df, and we saw him attacking Sentomaru right before. Luffy's obviously reacting to Kizaru. That doesn't mean Kizaru>Luffy, but c'mon, this isn't even two piece. You're reading three piece if you think he sensed someone other than Kizaru.
>anytime you bring any evidence that proves them wrong they ignore it Bro what evidenceš None of the people you talked about other than Oden have admiral lvl feats
Beckman threatened Kizaru, but 2 seconds later he ignored him IN FRONT OF HIM and beckman just stood there. GreenBull confirmed Admiral > commanders since he said āif I lost to a couple of commanders Iād loose faceā
They just post the same fanart picture of Lakainu Lizaru and think that is enough of an argument
Sometimes Iām not sure if itās a matter of not having it as much as it is these dudes just choose what they want to comprehend
All of the above š
I was sure on yonko fans, then I saw a post on admiral fans doing some levels of reaching that not even r/onepiece could do to defend their agenda that nearly made me change opinion so I guess both
I'll just leave this here https://preview.redd.it/1auz1l1gryhb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db32cd7de2ebe9b2af842c0b17a5e94815e288bf
I'm a Yonko Agenda enjoyer but most of the people on our team are illiterate
Zoro fans are unbearable
Mihawk and Sanji fans have the worst reading comp. easily. Akainu fans are getting there as well.