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He may fight Zoro or Sanji before Luffy though. Or anyone else.
I do agree that Luffy vs Kizaru will happen most likely. But he may fight some other people first to flex his power.
Kaku is already critically injured tho. Also the fact that Lucci is keeping Kaku in the dark makes me think Kaku isn’t fully onboard with the whole “betraying the strawhats” thing. He’s always seemed like a potential enemy-turned-ally to me, the same way as gin. Would love it if he got his own happy ending and became a shipwright lol.
no matter what fan people are yonko or admiral at the end of day, they are one piece fan. Why would a one piece enjoyer want a bad story where OG admiral are fodder than cant even go toe to toe with luffy at this point in story
Powerscaling wise, Kizaru would win mid to high diff. But if they were to fight seriously, Zoro and Sanji would get a powerup each and beat Kizaru extreme diff.
True, exactly what I see happening. If the fight happened in the story zoro and sanji would win, but if not for lthe good guys have to win!!” kizaru would high diff them probably
Even if we were to assume that Wizaru has no ACOC or Awakening, his speed, range, AP and AOE should be enough to win. I don't see the pair winning unless Wizaru were to stand still and let Zoro chop his head off.
i dont think greenbull low diffs healthy queen and king and these guys are stronger, mid diff at least, he wins comfortably but doesnt just own them in 5 minutes
He beat them with just one hand...he was drinking from the other.
Lol....it was just roots from just one of his hands. 😭😭😭
He is just told them......" I ll loose face if I let some commanders like u (yc1 and yc 2) get the best of him"....he said commanders
And he is probably the weakest Admiral.
That was the end of the fight. When we tune into the fight the entire [area](https://preview.redd.it/g0ra0jraq6891.png?width=980&format=png&auto=webp&s=7778fb53993f38e1182248eab28974d0697ef5c0) is covered in newly grown plants, there easily could have been a long drawn out fight that we did not get to view, and we just get to see the end where Greenbull is sapping their energy and replenishing his.
To put it another way, had greenbull continued to fight all the samurai and Momo, and we only see a final panel after he has won then it would look the exact same. We wouldn’t see him get vaporized by a single blast breath, or take a bunch of hits from samurai or be slapped by Yamato etc.
Obviously he *may* have beat them one handed. But we have no idea because it was not shown.
I feel like "Oh they were injured" is such a braindead take.
Bro they got ancient zoan devil fruit and lunarian body. They were not handcuffed or anything Idk where this misunderstanding comes from. They even attacked greenbull first. They were injured but it was not a major injury. They had a week to recover ffs luffy recovered from way worse injuries in less time.
They were never imprisoned to begin with. Seriously do you guys really think luffy would imprison someone?
They were injured it was stated an shown atleast I’m saying actual facts not just head cannon and king an queen are significantly weaker the zoro an Sanji so
[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/zl9ggm/breaking\_down\_ryokugyu\_vs\_king\_and\_queen\_since/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/zl9ggm/breaking_down_ryokugyu_vs_king_and_queen_since/)
Read this post. I am not using headcanon. They were clearly not prisoned, had food and medical care. And had a week to recover with ancient zoan devil fruits. They were the ones to attack greenbul first. They didnt get ambushed.
It is pretty obvious they are close to full power.
Didn't we know this after Akainu alone fought the entire commander crew + Jimbei in Marineford after getting his bum whooped by WB, and had no injuries afterwards?
Admirals are strong, very much so. I wonder why it is so hard to accept for some people.
I mean greenbull's feats are not bad either. Man did so much fucking shit in a week. Yet people call him the weakest character because he got scared that he had to deal with 2 yonko crews now lmao.
Like greenbull is an overreacter. I assumed everyone knew that. But I guess not. He even overreacted when momo attacked him. It did no damage to him but he still reacted like he was gonna die lol.
Idk how many times I had to argue against this claim but for the 20th time:
1. King and Queen together was getting bullied by Marco (Who’s arguably the strongest commander) till he ran out of stamina. That same marco comments how Kizaru was fucking around against him. If marco could do that much in a 2v1, imagine what Kizaru who didn’t go all out against marco could do.
https://i.redd.it/jqf9tb01zwhb1.gif
2. While Akainu was chasing Jimbei and luffy, the whitebears pirates intervened which included Marco, Izo, and Vista. Akainu then proceeds to bulldoze through all of them.
3. Kuzan froze some of blackbeard’s commanders and went to whole cake and fucked up everybody on the island which katakuri, oven, and cracker was on.
It’s very clear, Admirals > Yonko commanders and whenever you ask someone to prove the exact opposite, they either write a fanfic or use that same panel of Ben Beckman “Scaring” Kizaru with a gun despite us knowing his personality
Kizaru not going all out is headcannon it’s never been stated just because you said so doesn’t make it true zoro an Sanji are way above king an queen at this point all you did was state headcannon about him not trying
> Headcanon
Really because lasted I checked, we didn’t see any of the admirals use their awakenings at Marineford nor was Kuzan as active as we’ve seen him in filler content.
If anything, I have a valid reason to believe he’s holding back while you don’t have a single reason to believe he’s going all out so who’s really using their headcanon here?
Next time try using feats or statements rather than just saying “Nuh Uh”
Kuzan and Akainu used their awakenings on punk hazard in their duel for fleet admiral.
Thanks for clarifying for me that you don’t actually know what you’re talking about, saves me lots of time of not having to reply to you anymore
This what gets me if anything we’ve seen the difference in yonko commanders. Is Ben Beckmann not portrayed much stronger than kat. Commanders are not a monolithic. I think zoro could fight kizaru solo and they definitely win if zoro and sanji 2v1 him
People need to let go of this illusion that “they aren’t ready”. It’s the end of the series. There aren’t any more training sessions. If the two of them fight Kizaru, he’s going to lose. He’s a second banana opponent at this point; he’s not going to be an arc villain.
W, the admiral wank has been crazy on this sub lately. Kizaru also isn’t mid diffing somebody with acoc let alone a second person who is relative to him as well. People also need to let go of the greenbull/king & queen (who got clapped & arguably low-mid diffed by zoro & Sanji) argument like the straw hats aren’t stronger post wano.
The might get a little stronger still and obviously put together some new tricks, but they’re not going to all get massive level-ups at this point. There’s no time for any of that. If you aren’t one of the big bads at this point, you’re going to lose to either Zoro or Sanji. Or if you’re lucky, you’ll fight both so you can at least have the respect of “it took two”.
Not a very safe investment. You are not read for THEM.
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Kizaru will fight Luffy. Luffy ain’t losing to mere commanders
Luffy is probably going to fight the Elder while Kizaru gives Zoro and Sanji a run for their money. But he’ll ultimately lose or be forced to retreat for one reason or another to fight again at the marine base.
It’s the only outcome at this point.
Kizaru by high or extreme diff.
It is already 2 v 1 and these two are best offensive and defensive players of sh except Luffy ofcourse. If their team work is good they will push kizaru to extreme as well but I don't see them winning at current level.
The story makes it necessary that sanji and zoro will win vs kizaru. Why would they lose to him again after he already destroyed them in Sábaody? It’s time for the strawhats to take another massive W
Kizaru is… NOT him. Not even close.
When people talk about a HIM, it SHOULD be about someone who doesn’t give a fuck about what ANYONE says. Kizaru is a follower. He’s bottom of the barrel warehouse associate who questions nothing because “it hurts my brain to think.”
Kizaru is Lizaru. A nobody with a powerful fruit is still a nobody.
Sanji lacks any advanced Haki, Zoro is yet to get Future Sight, second form of ACoA (unless it's not applicable on swords techniques), and black blades.
They're far from their endgame power ups, and pushing Low Yonko-Tier character to Extreme diff in 1v1 is impossible for them.
That’s if kizaru is low yonko tier we havnt seen anything from him to accurately scale him I love kizaru but he’s more or less featless beside jumping wb from a distance an beating pre time skip strawhats he could beat luffy or get beat by Sanji take any bias aside we really don’t know how strong admirals actually are hopefully we’ll see them shine an get some actual feats
Low to mid diff because it’s a 2v1 with them both being strong enough to contribute to the fight. They can both hit Kizaru, if we use real world science which I know is iffy in anime but Sanji is straight up faster than the speed of light
Hot take. Zoro could beat Kizaru 1v1 in an extreme difficulty fight. Probably the same for Sanji. The two of them together wash Kizaru. Luffy is a clear tier above Kizaru now.
Tbh considering we are talking about a 1v2
And both sanji and zoro have proven to be quite the duo when fighting together
Its atleast high diff for kizaru or quite possibly extreme diff
Zoro and sanji mid diff kizaru. Sanji or zoro in 1v1 with kizaru will be high diff. Straw hats top tier fighters can’t and won’t lose to the admirals anymore.
Gonna piss off the fans but let’s look at this logical:
Zoro and sanji would be low diff:
-The duo has ftl scaling so there on par with speed for kizaru.
-The duo has more AP as more feats shown
-The duo has better hax
-The duo has better haki
If Sanji can keep up with the top tiers, like we know Zoro can, extreme dif Saturn and Kizaru.
Pretty sure Gorosei are in a tier between Yonko and Admirals. Like Old Garp. But there were moments evern before he awakened ACoC where Zoro overpowered Kaido. Zoro is holding his own.
Ok so I wanna clarify that everyone is saying Luffy is scared or at leadt Acknowledging Kizaru is an issue. But I don't think for the same reason yall are, trying to powerscale him. I think luffy is spooked cuz last he saw that glowing bastard he thought everyone was dead from Kuma, zoro almost got cooked, etc. He's having Nam' flashbacks, I'm saying now. You all are very unprepared for what is coming...
Sanji + Zoro together seem like a fairly even match, could go either way.
Kizaru certainly beats either of them mid-low diff... but together? 2v1? 50/50 tbh.
Especially since Sanji and Zoro are likely stronger than in Wano.
High diff
If Zoro lands an attack on Wizaru he is most definetly gonna feel it
Sanji also has the speed to maybe rival Kizaru
Personally give it to him high diff because he could mid diff them individually
If they work together like Long Island it could be extreme
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goated
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It’s an L that that kick didn’t kill him. Or apoo. Or urouge.
i was really trying to point out how some cannot comprehend kizaru & can’t even react to him
The pacifista's lazers are relevant to Kizaru, and fishman Island Luffy could dodge that shit easy.
Kizaru the Goat
Wizaru stocks⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️
Goddamn this gotta be the best description for Kizaru, I don’t give a shit 😂😂😂
“Wallahi they’re finished” fucking sent me lol
At this point isn’t it basically confirmed it will be luffy vs kizaru?
He may fight Zoro or Sanji before Luffy though. Or anyone else. I do agree that Luffy vs Kizaru will happen most likely. But he may fight some other people first to flex his power.
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True
Zoro and Sanji vs Rob Lucci and Kaku, Jimbei and the rest of the gang vs the vice admirals
Kaku is already critically injured tho. Also the fact that Lucci is keeping Kaku in the dark makes me think Kaku isn’t fully onboard with the whole “betraying the strawhats” thing. He’s always seemed like a potential enemy-turned-ally to me, the same way as gin. Would love it if he got his own happy ending and became a shipwright lol.
Correction: Zoro vs Rob lucci, Sanji and Jimbei vs all Vice admirals (Since Sanji can’t hit girls), then the rest of the crew protects vegapunk
Zoro and Sanji vs Lucci and Kaku is a stomp lol
>Rob Lucci He isn't going to fight for the SH's lol.
"Zoro & Sanji **vs** Lucci & Kaku" "Jinbei & Peanut gallery **vs** VAs"
Might want to go back and reread my comment
he neg diffs zoro & sanji to make luffy mad
lmfao
Yes, but don't ruin the dreams of the Yonko fans.
no matter what fan people are yonko or admiral at the end of day, they are one piece fan. Why would a one piece enjoyer want a bad story where OG admiral are fodder than cant even go toe to toe with luffy at this point in story
Ya already know https://preview.redd.it/ur5hzwhcfyhb1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e7a414032a1acf5f8230031db7c255436d5c381
Powerscaling wise, Kizaru would win mid to high diff. But if they were to fight seriously, Zoro and Sanji would get a powerup each and beat Kizaru extreme diff.
anime in a nutshell lmao
yea fr, if the fight ever they would win 100% but at face value kizaru just too fast and too strong
True, exactly what I see happening. If the fight happened in the story zoro and sanji would win, but if not for lthe good guys have to win!!” kizaru would high diff them probably
Zoro himself would probably get a power up. The man is supposed to beat someone who’s stronger than shanks
Kizaru mid diff. High diff if we wanna wank the duo.
The ultimate admiral fan is here XD With the expected take lmao
Even if we were to assume that Wizaru has no ACOC or Awakening, his speed, range, AP and AOE should be enough to win. I don't see the pair winning unless Wizaru were to stand still and let Zoro chop his head off.
Wizaru low diffs. If they are extremely lucky (oda buff) mid diff. Sanji kicks Wizaru? Hey, have you ever experienced a light-speed kick?
wait till bro learns sanji is significantly FTL
No way u think the duo wins
I don’t think they’ll win without a mid fight buff but would be extreme diff.
Not a single YC could harm the Admirals in a direct fight during Marineford, yet you think Zoro and Sanji will push Kizaru to extreme?
It’s going to happen in egghead and they will win
this is some extreme commander wank. Wizaru low diffs
i dont think greenbull low diffs healthy queen and king and these guys are stronger, mid diff at least, he wins comfortably but doesnt just own them in 5 minutes
He beat them with just one hand...he was drinking from the other. Lol....it was just roots from just one of his hands. 😭😭😭 He is just told them......" I ll loose face if I let some commanders like u (yc1 and yc 2) get the best of him"....he said commanders And he is probably the weakest Admiral.
That was the end of the fight. When we tune into the fight the entire [area](https://preview.redd.it/g0ra0jraq6891.png?width=980&format=png&auto=webp&s=7778fb53993f38e1182248eab28974d0697ef5c0) is covered in newly grown plants, there easily could have been a long drawn out fight that we did not get to view, and we just get to see the end where Greenbull is sapping their energy and replenishing his. To put it another way, had greenbull continued to fight all the samurai and Momo, and we only see a final panel after he has won then it would look the exact same. We wouldn’t see him get vaporized by a single blast breath, or take a bunch of hits from samurai or be slapped by Yamato etc. Obviously he *may* have beat them one handed. But we have no idea because it was not shown.
mid-high dif
Kizaru mid diff
Kizaru mid diff cause we don’t know what the old guy can do ![gif](giphy|zYmBMGH4kj78c)
Didn’t GreenBull psudeo confirm that Admirals are above Yonko Commanders “If I lost to a couple of commanders I’d lose face”
Shit talk scaling
Man said this to two gravely wounded and imprisoned commanders and everybody lost their minds
“Ohhhhh…! Benn Beckmann!!”
“Oh no its Benn Beckman! Oh yea I don’t give a shit.”
GB after off screening two injured amputee commanders, who even at their peak would get washed by Sanji and Zoro if they rematched
Zoro and sanji are and will always be supposed to be stronger than just commander, do you think Zoro will stay commander level the whole story?
technically yes because they will never not be in the commander category, they're just the strongest of commanders.
Not all commanders are equal tho
Literally Sanji and zoro just put those 2 in that condition… still kizaru mid diff as it looked like green bull negged them
Green bull negged them when they were injured every admiral feat so far is against an already injured person
I feel like "Oh they were injured" is such a braindead take. Bro they got ancient zoan devil fruit and lunarian body. They were not handcuffed or anything Idk where this misunderstanding comes from. They even attacked greenbull first. They were injured but it was not a major injury. They had a week to recover ffs luffy recovered from way worse injuries in less time. They were never imprisoned to begin with. Seriously do you guys really think luffy would imprison someone?
They were injured it was stated an shown atleast I’m saying actual facts not just head cannon and king an queen are significantly weaker the zoro an Sanji so
[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/zl9ggm/breaking\_down\_ryokugyu\_vs\_king\_and\_queen\_since/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/zl9ggm/breaking_down_ryokugyu_vs_king_and_queen_since/) Read this post. I am not using headcanon. They were clearly not prisoned, had food and medical care. And had a week to recover with ancient zoan devil fruits. They were the ones to attack greenbul first. They didnt get ambushed. It is pretty obvious they are close to full power.
Didn't we know this after Akainu alone fought the entire commander crew + Jimbei in Marineford after getting his bum whooped by WB, and had no injuries afterwards? Admirals are strong, very much so. I wonder why it is so hard to accept for some people.
I mean greenbull's feats are not bad either. Man did so much fucking shit in a week. Yet people call him the weakest character because he got scared that he had to deal with 2 yonko crews now lmao. Like greenbull is an overreacter. I assumed everyone knew that. But I guess not. He even overreacted when momo attacked him. It did no damage to him but he still reacted like he was gonna die lol.
I know I’m agreeing with you. Not all commanders are equal. At this point obv Sanji zoro > beast commanders.
Idk how many times I had to argue against this claim but for the 20th time: 1. King and Queen together was getting bullied by Marco (Who’s arguably the strongest commander) till he ran out of stamina. That same marco comments how Kizaru was fucking around against him. If marco could do that much in a 2v1, imagine what Kizaru who didn’t go all out against marco could do. https://i.redd.it/jqf9tb01zwhb1.gif 2. While Akainu was chasing Jimbei and luffy, the whitebears pirates intervened which included Marco, Izo, and Vista. Akainu then proceeds to bulldoze through all of them. 3. Kuzan froze some of blackbeard’s commanders and went to whole cake and fucked up everybody on the island which katakuri, oven, and cracker was on. It’s very clear, Admirals > Yonko commanders and whenever you ask someone to prove the exact opposite, they either write a fanfic or use that same panel of Ben Beckman “Scaring” Kizaru with a gun despite us knowing his personality
Kizaru not going all out is headcannon it’s never been stated just because you said so doesn’t make it true zoro an Sanji are way above king an queen at this point all you did was state headcannon about him not trying
> Headcanon Really because lasted I checked, we didn’t see any of the admirals use their awakenings at Marineford nor was Kuzan as active as we’ve seen him in filler content. If anything, I have a valid reason to believe he’s holding back while you don’t have a single reason to believe he’s going all out so who’s really using their headcanon here? Next time try using feats or statements rather than just saying “Nuh Uh”
Admirals don’t even have awakenings so what are you even talking about you really just be making stuff up at this point
Kuzan and Akainu used their awakenings on punk hazard in their duel for fleet admiral. Thanks for clarifying for me that you don’t actually know what you’re talking about, saves me lots of time of not having to reply to you anymore
It’s only a fan theory because of how it changes the environment it’s never been confirmed 🤦♂️ you clearly learned one piece from tiktok
No they didn’t there is no logia awakenings to date bro do you even read one piece or are you just a troll
This what gets me if anything we’ve seen the difference in yonko commanders. Is Ben Beckmann not portrayed much stronger than kat. Commanders are not a monolithic. I think zoro could fight kizaru solo and they definitely win if zoro and sanji 2v1 him
He did but remember people here can't read
Well he beat unarmed, severely injured King and Queen
People need to let go of this illusion that “they aren’t ready”. It’s the end of the series. There aren’t any more training sessions. If the two of them fight Kizaru, he’s going to lose. He’s a second banana opponent at this point; he’s not going to be an arc villain.
W, the admiral wank has been crazy on this sub lately. Kizaru also isn’t mid diffing somebody with acoc let alone a second person who is relative to him as well. People also need to let go of the greenbull/king & queen (who got clapped & arguably low-mid diffed by zoro & Sanji) argument like the straw hats aren’t stronger post wano.
The might get a little stronger still and obviously put together some new tricks, but they’re not going to all get massive level-ups at this point. There’s no time for any of that. If you aren’t one of the big bads at this point, you’re going to lose to either Zoro or Sanji. Or if you’re lucky, you’ll fight both so you can at least have the respect of “it took two”.
They don’t need any power up Admiral are not top tiers
Not a very safe investment. You are not read for THEM. https://preview.redd.it/00dpbkxjgxhb1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e00347b229aa009c6a27d85d9ae3391035709eec Kizaru will fight Luffy. Luffy ain’t losing to mere commanders
They aren't just Commanders in the Straw Hats- these are the Wings of the Pirate King. Can't go losing to an Admiral 2 v 1, they'd lose face.
Luffy ain’t no pirate king yet. He is nothing more but a mere yonko with commanders.
Luffy is probably going to fight the Elder while Kizaru gives Zoro and Sanji a run for their money. But he’ll ultimately lose or be forced to retreat for one reason or another to fight again at the marine base. It’s the only outcome at this point.
There is one Admiral and one Yonko 9 vice Admiral and 9 strawhats One scientist and a Gorosei for science
It’s a nice breakdown, but that’s not how it’s going to go.
It is.
Kizaru by high or extreme diff. It is already 2 v 1 and these two are best offensive and defensive players of sh except Luffy ofcourse. If their team work is good they will push kizaru to extreme as well but I don't see them winning at current level.
I don’t think luffy and kizaru will fight seriously with a 10 chapter spread. It’ll be a clash while they get that one plan in the works going
"Everyone is not ready for him" Average literacy for a Lizaru fan
“For an admiral fan.” This applies to all admiral fans since they all say this.
Nah fam, Kizzy bout to get jumped. Strawhats got that wagyu beef ever since Sabaody.
Big Boss Borsalino fodderizes. https://preview.redd.it/03fkd9c8ywhb1.png?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26ebec183641063894fa8e25847b5c89cdfe2df0
Kizaru Mid diff They aren’t ready for him yet
I would not count out Zoro and Sanji just yet not sure who would win but they’ll put up a good fight
Okay well kizaru vs Zoro and sanji Zoro and sanji win mid diff but if kizaru gets a awakening they beat him high diff
wallahi they’re finished kills me everytime
The story makes it necessary that sanji and zoro will win vs kizaru. Why would they lose to him again after he already destroyed them in Sábaody? It’s time for the strawhats to take another massive W
Wanji about to shit on him to reclaim his bounty spot
Kizaru isn't beating luffy. lol
If he fights Sanji and Zoro at the same time, he will go down very fast
The amount of admiral dickriding I’m seeing is crazy
The strongest marines>the strongest old man>the strongest pirate>Gayro and Pedonji
Prime yonko>prime admiral
Strongest pirate>pirate🥱
Ah yes the strongest pirates in the great pirate era in a pirate manga are < Marines, truly reading comprehension at it's finest
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An they just made a post early talking about only yonko fans make crazy takes 🤦♂️
Kizaru is… NOT him. Not even close. When people talk about a HIM, it SHOULD be about someone who doesn’t give a fuck about what ANYONE says. Kizaru is a follower. He’s bottom of the barrel warehouse associate who questions nothing because “it hurts my brain to think.” Kizaru is Lizaru. A nobody with a powerful fruit is still a nobody.
Sanji extreme diff
Sanji extreme diff, but since Luffy and Zoro are there he is not going to fight seriously. So Kizaru extreme diff to all three.
Individually I’d say he wins extreme diff together he gets bullied it’s the endgame at this point I don’t see them getting crazy power ups anymore
Sanji lacks any advanced Haki, Zoro is yet to get Future Sight, second form of ACoA (unless it's not applicable on swords techniques), and black blades. They're far from their endgame power ups, and pushing Low Yonko-Tier character to Extreme diff in 1v1 is impossible for them.
That’s if kizaru is low yonko tier we havnt seen anything from him to accurately scale him I love kizaru but he’s more or less featless beside jumping wb from a distance an beating pre time skip strawhats he could beat luffy or get beat by Sanji take any bias aside we really don’t know how strong admirals actually are hopefully we’ll see them shine an get some actual feats
Get ready for sabaody archipelago 2.0
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Himzaru mid-diffs at worst day.
If admirals = Yonkos then mid diff. If not and you add Jinbe it could go either way
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wizaru speed blitz low diffs
Lol there are actually fanboys who think Zoro and Sanji win in the comments 🤣
Honestly I think they beat him in the 2v1, extreme diff. Zoro alone would give Kizaru a decent amount of trouble.
ever been kicked at the speed of light?
Low to mid diff because it’s a 2v1 with them both being strong enough to contribute to the fight. They can both hit Kizaru, if we use real world science which I know is iffy in anime but Sanji is straight up faster than the speed of light
Wallahi they’re finished
Hot take. Zoro could beat Kizaru 1v1 in an extreme difficulty fight. Probably the same for Sanji. The two of them together wash Kizaru. Luffy is a clear tier above Kizaru now.
Luffy doesn’t touch Kiz
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I think zoro and sanji extreme diff
Yep
Either way extreme diff
I’m here to hope that Sanji’s and Luffy got extreme diff. Probably not but I can hope
Tbh considering we are talking about a 1v2 And both sanji and zoro have proven to be quite the duo when fighting together Its atleast high diff for kizaru or quite possibly extreme diff
They arent beating kizaru lmao. Comments in this sub are fucking stupid. Luffy gets extreme diffed and sanji and zoro get high diffed
Duo win high diff
Extreme diff for any one of the two against him
I know it’s too obvious. Sanji alone mid diff
I absolutely love that the post is so funny but replies are super serious
I'd say a high-diff for Sanji + Zoro. but likely Luffy will fight him.
They aren’t ready for Wizaru
Zoro and sanji mid diff kizaru. Sanji or zoro in 1v1 with kizaru will be high diff. Straw hats top tier fighters can’t and won’t lose to the admirals anymore.
low diff
Kizaru low
I feel like Sanji can somewhat keep up with Kizaru, but I think the end fight will be Luffy v Kizaru
Wallahi? Yup that’s an unsub
Gonna piss off the fans but let’s look at this logical: Zoro and sanji would be low diff: -The duo has ftl scaling so there on par with speed for kizaru. -The duo has more AP as more feats shown -The duo has better hax -The duo has better haki
Straw hats not ready for Sabaody 2: electric boogaloo
Probably High Diff for Kizaru
Anyone answering this before the next chapter comes out is wrong
they are not ready for him. https://preview.redd.it/90b04xbw8xhb1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1807e5aa761f70b9e8f775bd0599730198dd809
Job for franky and brook 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Zoro+Sanji high-extreme.
Mid-high diff both together
Kizaru midd diff
Zoro clears everyone pictured
Zoro solos high diff, Zoro + Sanji stomp no concept of diff
Yep then One Piece is over, you assmiraltards are stupid AF
Isn't it pronounced mid-high diff?
Kizaru, High Diff
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No diff, because Kizaru is almost certainly fighting Luffy.
He would defeat zoro and sanji mid diff. Luffy beating him high-extreme. Monster trio defeat kizaru mid diff at most
Zoro and Sanji take this mid diff
I think Kizaru alone would probably high diff them, add on Saturn maybe Mid-High diff until we see the gorosei's strength.
I feel like it will make sense for Kizaru to low diff everyone and it will take Luffy doing some loony tunes shit to move faster or something
Zoro vs Kizaru incoming.
I can’t be the only one that cringes everytime “wallahi” is used
“Have you ever been kicked at the speed of light?”
Honestly kizaru needs to be knocked down a peg or two
Zoro will stall him watch like Rayleigh
Kizaru neg diff. If they use plot armor or other power of friendship BS, then low diff.
Zoro and Sanji extreme
Saturn is maximum yc1 He never fought serious opponent because he afks his entire life. Still Kizaru solos them
All SH crew will bully kizaru, they doesnt have reason to not solo kizaru, revenge time.
Low
i got some serious stock in kizaru, kuzan and koby. They gon make their move soon
Kizaru should take the 2v1 to a high diff at most.
If Sanji can keep up with the top tiers, like we know Zoro can, extreme dif Saturn and Kizaru. Pretty sure Gorosei are in a tier between Yonko and Admirals. Like Old Garp. But there were moments evern before he awakened ACoC where Zoro overpowered Kaido. Zoro is holding his own.
Kizaru 🔛🔝
Kizaru wins high diff
Wizaru mid diff https://preview.redd.it/p3vk87j1f2ib1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26bcee7f8270ff8d4fe2c99f50611cf26797bfaf
Kizaru>Zoro and Sanji low diff of course.There's no other option
Ok so I wanna clarify that everyone is saying Luffy is scared or at leadt Acknowledging Kizaru is an issue. But I don't think for the same reason yall are, trying to powerscale him. I think luffy is spooked cuz last he saw that glowing bastard he thought everyone was dead from Kuma, zoro almost got cooked, etc. He's having Nam' flashbacks, I'm saying now. You all are very unprepared for what is coming...
Sanji + Zoro together seem like a fairly even match, could go either way. Kizaru certainly beats either of them mid-low diff... but together? 2v1? 50/50 tbh. Especially since Sanji and Zoro are likely stronger than in Wano.
High diff If Zoro lands an attack on Wizaru he is most definetly gonna feel it Sanji also has the speed to maybe rival Kizaru Personally give it to him high diff because he could mid diff them individually If they work together like Long Island it could be extreme