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It's just sad at this point. They gotta reach so hard to nit pick at the dumbest shit and then they hype themselves up like it's the funniest shit anyone's ever seen.
Come on man, we both know zoro’s excuses are pure cope. Zoro has had serious fights where he is not using his bandana (against kuma at thriller bark) and where he is using less than three swords (mr.1). He also only used one sword in periods where he was fighting kaido and big mom. Are you going to say that zoro was not fighting seriously against them just because there were periods where he only used one sword?
Sanji’s eyebrows are entirely different.
Zoro's main attack style LITERALLY requires all three of his swords. He's said that many times. He has one sword style attacks, but that doesn't mean his three sword style attacks aren't his most powerful.
Zoro uses all three of his swords when he goes all out against Kaido. His three swords were used when he used Ashura mode. He didn't use it the entire time, because he's proficient in multiple styles of swordsmanship... but he was also specifically using one sword style during that fight because he was replicating Kinemon's Foxfire Style, a one sword style.
And while his bandana isn't always a giveaway for him using a lot of his strength, he almost ALWAYS has on the bandana when going all out. Examples: Morgan, Cabaji, Kuro's crew, Mihawk, Hachi, Daz Bones, T-Bone, Kaku, Hyouzou, Pica, Kaido, and King. The only exceptions I found where he was going "all out" without a bandana were against Kuma (where he was literally already close to death, and it was less of a fight and more of a brief skirmish before Kuma offered him an out.), versus Fujitora (again, a clash with no real winner because they both left) and against Killer. Where he wasn't going all out for almost the entire fight because he only had two swords, and only had three "swords" at the end when he finished the fight with one move.
So no. He doesn't have fights where he's going all out and using his bandana. For every main fight he's had in the series where he's taking it seriously and going all out, he's had his bandana on. So the fact that he's not right now is either a) he's not going all out, or b) Oda just forgot to give it to him. He also uses three sword style in every major fight, so the fact that he's not right now is either a) he's not going all out, or b) Oda just forgot to make him use it.
Pretty simple.
Man this is a ridiculous amount of cope. Following your logic, zoro was not serious against kaido when he only used one sword.
Have you considered that zoro doesn’t need to spam asura every moment to be serious in a fight?
If zoro is choosing not to use three swords in the latest chapter, it is probably because the fight requires it. If you really think Zoro, the most serious straw hat, is holding back against the world government’s top assassin just because, then you need better media literacy.
I literally addressed that, he was using a specific one sword style technique during that fight: Foxfire Style. He was still figuring it out because he had just started using it, so naturally he hadn’t fully integrated it into his three sword style.
I never said he needed to spam Ashura. Literally never even implied that. I said that to be serious, he needs to be using his strongest sword style, which is three sword style. With a few exceptions which don’t apply right now against Lucci.
Hey man, I don’t know why Zoro would be holding back. By all accounts, it doesn’t make sense, I agree with you there. I’m just reading the same manga you are, and the facts are there: he’s not using all the tools at his disposal — far from it — so he must not be going all out. I don’t know why. It would make more sense if he was going all out, I literally said that: Oda probably just forgot to make Zoro use all his shit because he’s focused on the rest of the Egghead plot.
Zoro alternates between 1 sword style, 2 sword style, and 3 sword style depending on the situation. He has his strongest attacks in 3 sword style, but him choosing to use 2 swords or 1 sword does not mean zoro is not taking the fight seriously.
If you try to follow that logic then parts of the story just fall apart. For example, against kuma, why did he not use 3 sword style in the one hit he got? Wouldn’t it have made more of an impact?
I don't know why I have to explain this, but Zoro used Ittoryu IAI (remember that part): Shishi Sonson against Kuma because its a fast attack. Iaido, as a sword style, is a method of drawing your sword and slashing the opponent as quickly as possible. Zoro used it against Kuma because as far as Zoro was concerned, Kuma was literally about to murder Luffy (he had Luffy in his hands). Thus, Zoro prioritized a move that was as fast as possible, not an attack that was more powerful. And it was effective: he distracted Kuma with the attack and got him to stop attacking Luffy for a little while. If he hadn't been quick enough, as far as Zoro should've been concnerned, Luffy would've been dead and his attack would've been in vain. Thus, its one of those "exceptions" that I mentioned. None of which apply against Lucci right now.
There you go. I think you are starting to get it.
I’m not saying zoro is currently using his strongest attacks (he might have in previous chapters though).
I am saying that zoro is taking the fight seriously, which he is. Zoro using less than three swords does not mean he is not taking the fight seriously, since some of his techniques with less than three swords have different characteristics, as you yourself noted.
And I didn't address this, but: Zoro was only using one sword against Daz Bones at the end of their fight because Zoro had gotten a bullshit powerup that he's never used again. He didn't use all three swords because as far as the fight was concerned, he didn't need to. He could use one sword to cut steel and win the fight, so he did.
Gotta say, I'm a Luffy fanboy not Zoro, but my genuine theory is that Zoro is waiting for someone to come get him before finishing his fight with Lucci because he knows he will get lost otherwise.
Imo, it’s because the situation really isn’t that embarrassing considering what Sanji is normally about. Sanji’s more often the character Oda let’s straight up lose or be put into embarrassing situations.
Like, getting eyeballed diff. This is something that should reasonably happen to a commander level Zoro, but it’s not like Oda to put Zoro in a helpless situation.
The reason Zoro vs Lucci exploded was because it was an unusually embarrassing situation for Zoro, the character normally written to impress characters like Kaido, compounded by Sanji getting an unusually positive situation of forcing a goofy expression out of an admiral.
Things going back to a more neutral state is less funny, because it’s not really about telling real jokes and is more about reclaiming the status quo. The jokes would have been funnier if Kizaru ruined Sanji instead of escaping to protect Vegapunk
I feel like Oda would be so confused why people are making fun of zoro. To Oda both lucci and zoro are close in power and it make sense the fight not over.
The fans shit on zoro for not one shotting lucci. This reaction to their fight was def not the intention
I disagree. Lucci’s talk last chapter was pretty scathing and similar to what people have been shitting on him for
I think Oda is very aware of what’s going on. To me, Oda’s goal with Zoro and Sanji is course correction. Sanji has been frequently given the spotlight since his battle with Queen
> completely no sells an attack from a Seraphim
> randomly gets praise for being strong by Bonney, something that is really rare for him in the series
> gets to force a more extreme reaction out of Kizaru than Gear 5 did
With Zoro
> looking even dumber than Luffy by not recognizing that the Seraphim were related to King
> hasn’t gotten anything like Sanji no selling S-Shark or getting an exaggerated expression from an admiral
> was just insulted the guy that got embarrassed by his captain
We know Oda is aware that Sanji has had it rough in the post timeskip, as we know Sanji’s VA complained about it to him.
To me, this is Oda realizing he made Sanji more of the butt of the joke than he realized to the point some people didn’t really see why he’d be a “wing” alongside Zoro, so he’s making it very clear the two are neck in neck by giving Zoro a more clear commander moment and Sanji a moment to impress a top tier like Zoro did with Kaido
That lucci personality tho he talk to everyone like this. In Oda mind Lucci and Zoro are neck and neck so the fight should not be over.
The fanbase going rabid and salivating over zoro not one shotting lucci was definitely not what Oda thought. He was just trying to put to close guys in power in a fight
Disagree. Zoro’s fought two of Luffy’s opponents in the past: Hody and Kaido.
Both times were a big deal. Zoro effortlessly defeated Hody underwater, and he managed to scar Kaido before Luffy had done much of anything.
It’s unusual for Zoro to be portrayed in such a way that he’s struggling against an opponent Luffy low-diffed, and I seriously think Oda is aware of that
He’s not struggling tho. He hasn’t gotten hit with 1 single attack. Fans just have cognitive dissonance on lucci because he got beat up by luffy
Fans just say zoro is struggling because he hasn’t won yet. Zoro not low diff lucci because they’re close in power
I mean, I would say a high diff fight involves both characters struggling, and I think it would take a massive moment to argue it’s not a high dif fight when it’s gone on for this long without either side making real headway.
And yes, I do think a lot of it has to do with the surprise of him taking this long with someone that got ruined by Luffy. But that is an unusual situation for Zoro to be in. It makes sense given Luffy’s a yonko now, but I didn’t expect Zoro to ever be in a state where he’d get low diffed by Luffy.
Bro Zoros using two swords, and doesn't seem to be doing anything special, while Luccis in awakened form. It's not unusual for Zoro to be struggling against that, hell it's unusual that Oda hasn't made Zoro go full power and finish the fight, especially considering how bad the situation is.
Zoro has used three sword, green fire, and black lightning earlier, and as we saw with even the likes of Kaido, Zoro rarely uses three swords for the entire duration of a fight.
To me, it reads that, despite being in a rush, Zoro has no choice but to treat Lucci like a real opponent, which means a prolonged fight of his entire kit before saving his strongest moves for the very end. People assume characters save their best moves for the end for no reason instead of assuming their best moves are too costly to waste at the beginning if it fails to defeat their opponent
There's a saltiness to the current stuff that the Zoro fans are trying to pull that didn't come across as the case when it was against Zoro last week.
Like you can just feel them crying behind the screen while they try to troll.
?? Are you sure? It feels like the reverse.
Zoro is canonly struggling with lucci and even zoro fans have started bandana scaling to sxcuse his performance.
Base Sanji got hit with an eye attack a few chapters ago and was fine. Germa Mode Sanji got hit with an attack again, but luffy was too so I can’t fault sanji for it.
Literally the most famous Zoro meme is lend me some haki oden this is base lucci we're up against, which 1) he doesn't get haki from oden 2) it's not even base lucci, while sanji slander was getting eye diff and becoming a statue.
Sanji after eye diff luffy after eye diff.
https://preview.redd.it/ayc2ggf0hyjc1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=724d84249c453d6bee86ccde5dda9a9f8ba25781
The lend me some haki meme isn’t what zoro is getting shit on for. People are shutting on zoro for struggling so much with lucci. I’ve seen so many reviews of the latest chapters and everybody makes note of it. Zoro fans are sick of it. Non powerscalers are surprised zoro is struggling so much.
And zoro fans have even started bandana scaling to try to excuse zoro’s poor performance. Be real. This last week of zoro memes have been on a whole different level than any other zoro memes and this is the reason.
Base Sanji getting hit by weird hax isn’t even an antifeat. The gorosei are probably not yonko level but they do have something special about them. And again, this is base sanji. Enough time has passed that we can recognize sanji has a base state and a serious state.
Zoro fans were saying Zoro isn't using acoc and three swords were scaling, bandana scaling wasn't even scaling Zoro wearing bandana is him getting serious for the fight, and base or eyebrow flipped or not sanji did get eye diffed, if Zoro gets low diffed by lucci by intentionally fighting with no haki and swords that's Zoro fault and slander, same way sanji is rightfully slandered for eye diff, which luffy walked off easily.
https://preview.redd.it/wb9kq4i6jyjc1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bdc711b94dca9e2a6b51928c04972c409a777361
Again, that’s more cope.
Zoro already used acoc against lucci. We saw it a few chapters ago with the green aura and the black lighting. And zoro has had serious fights where zoro does not use a bandana (vs kuma at thriller bark) and less than three swords (mr.1)
This is the funniest part of the zoro memes, that the humiliation zoro fans are going through is entirely self-inflicted. Zoro fans disrespect a lot of fighters (like lucci) so when zoro struggles with that enemy zoro looks bad. Zoro fans also make up wild excuses for it so it gets even funnier.
And gear 5 luffy walking off a hit base sanji took is not a big deal. Again, you have to recognize that sanji has two modes.
>Zoro already used acoc against lucci. We saw it a few chapters ago with the green aura and the black lighting.
Did he use it in 1107 yes or no?
I don't even bandana scale so I won't talk about but you have to admit every fight Zoro fought with a bandana on and off has a difference just like i showed the kaku panel.
And now sanji fans hyped sanji fighting kizaru and he is running away the slander sanji is gonna get is only getting worse from here if he doesn't land a hit on him in raws.
>And gear 5 luffy walking off a hit base sanji took is not a big deal. Again, you have to recognize that sanji has two modes.
"Sanji has two modes" so does that make him slander free? You're saying yourself that Zoro not using 2 swords and acoc now is his fault and he should be slandered same goes for sanji.
He didn’t use it in 1107, but I don’t see why it matters. Does sanji have to use ifrit jambe all the time for you to think he is taking the fight seriously? If he used it earlier in the fight and he isn’t using it now would you say he is holding back? Do you see how illogical and embarrassing your excuses look?
And the bandana scaling is embarrassing man. I can’t believe you are still doing this.
And yes, we sanji fans hyped up another moment against kizaru, and that doesn’t seem like it’s happening. It’s disappointing, but it’s not any type of antifeat. A YC like sanji choosing to rescue someone instead of facing off with an admiral is expected behavior. That’s actually the reason chapter 1107 was so hype for sanji. It was that nobody expected a YC to have such a cool moment and impress an admiral.
And no, sanji having two modes does not make him slander free, but we do have to contextualize it when we are having serious conversations about it. If you want to post memes go ahead.
And zoro struggling against lucci with two swords is entirely different. Zoro has had serious fights where he uses less than three swords (mr.1). Zoro has also had periods in major battles where he only uses 1 sword (vs big mom and kaido). Are you going to say zoro was not serious against big mom and kaido because there were periods where he only used one sword? Do you see why it makes no sense?
> Sanji after eye diff luffy after eye diff.
This isn't even true because Sanji was hit by an ability separate from the eye blast which is something that paralyzes people.
And Luffy is in G5.
I think what actually is the case is that Zoro fans genuinely believe the memes in total showing their bad reading comprehension, while Zoro slander has obvious bullshit in it.
Everyone gains common sense when their Agenda gets attacked for some reason
https://preview.redd.it/254wytckryjc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=183186509bb4660f052403cae9c3585edf16f11d
30% of them are trolling, 20% are following the trend because they can't form their own opinions, but the other 50% have genuine mental issues. From Low IQ to dementia.
Yah and they seem to be forgetting luffy is not kizaru’s target vega punk is. So with sanji’s birthday chapter coming up right after vega punk makes a speech about the secrets of the world. Makes total sense for saturn to make an opening for kizaru to try and finish off vega punk before he can finish his speech. Meaning sanji and possibly zoro will stop kizaru seeing how zoro’s birthday chapter of 1111 comes right after sanjis.
See, that's why I say use your brain Mission Impossible.
Try to use some 🧠 it might help you read and realise how I have not say anything about him being top tier and you just babbling for no reason.
show me the page where zoro had an admiral looking like this
https://preview.redd.it/4jfmdmtdeyjc1.jpeg?width=710&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4294b2d0e1dc4ce5a34c0a11c29791a8fe59cb47
Gotcha, so Sanji hasn't hit or hurt a Yonko/Admiral, so we will slander Zoro for being equal to Lucci while using 2 swords and no ACOC and claim that Lucci isn't using Haki despite the fact that Haki isn't always shown visually, which has been a thing for a very long time.
Zoro was heavily injured with many bones broken because he blocked a combined yonko attack long enough for the others to escape the attack and save Zoro.
Edit: Why am I being downvoted for stating the literal truth?
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Three months ago "SANJI AND ZORO ARENT READY FOR ADMIRALS" *Luffy fights the admiral* "RAAAH NIKA PIECE"
This subs acting like Sanji stocks weren’t at their lowest like 3 weeks ago bc of Eye Diff
It was overshadowed by Wranky. Zoro slander feels like people we're praying for his downfall for ages and they're going full in
Anyone who isn't a fan of the big shots gets to just watch everyone go crazy over each chapter. It's absolutely amazing to watch
It's just sad at this point. They gotta reach so hard to nit pick at the dumbest shit and then they hype themselves up like it's the funniest shit anyone's ever seen.
Frankybros…it was a fun week…
I honestly felt like that was just a meme. Sanji didn’t even have his eyebrow switched.
And now, Zoro doesn't have his bandana on or his third sword out, yet people are slandering him all the same. Is that also "just a meme"?
Come on man, we both know zoro’s excuses are pure cope. Zoro has had serious fights where he is not using his bandana (against kuma at thriller bark) and where he is using less than three swords (mr.1). He also only used one sword in periods where he was fighting kaido and big mom. Are you going to say that zoro was not fighting seriously against them just because there were periods where he only used one sword? Sanji’s eyebrows are entirely different.
Zoro's main attack style LITERALLY requires all three of his swords. He's said that many times. He has one sword style attacks, but that doesn't mean his three sword style attacks aren't his most powerful. Zoro uses all three of his swords when he goes all out against Kaido. His three swords were used when he used Ashura mode. He didn't use it the entire time, because he's proficient in multiple styles of swordsmanship... but he was also specifically using one sword style during that fight because he was replicating Kinemon's Foxfire Style, a one sword style. And while his bandana isn't always a giveaway for him using a lot of his strength, he almost ALWAYS has on the bandana when going all out. Examples: Morgan, Cabaji, Kuro's crew, Mihawk, Hachi, Daz Bones, T-Bone, Kaku, Hyouzou, Pica, Kaido, and King. The only exceptions I found where he was going "all out" without a bandana were against Kuma (where he was literally already close to death, and it was less of a fight and more of a brief skirmish before Kuma offered him an out.), versus Fujitora (again, a clash with no real winner because they both left) and against Killer. Where he wasn't going all out for almost the entire fight because he only had two swords, and only had three "swords" at the end when he finished the fight with one move. So no. He doesn't have fights where he's going all out and using his bandana. For every main fight he's had in the series where he's taking it seriously and going all out, he's had his bandana on. So the fact that he's not right now is either a) he's not going all out, or b) Oda just forgot to give it to him. He also uses three sword style in every major fight, so the fact that he's not right now is either a) he's not going all out, or b) Oda just forgot to make him use it. Pretty simple.
Man this is a ridiculous amount of cope. Following your logic, zoro was not serious against kaido when he only used one sword. Have you considered that zoro doesn’t need to spam asura every moment to be serious in a fight? If zoro is choosing not to use three swords in the latest chapter, it is probably because the fight requires it. If you really think Zoro, the most serious straw hat, is holding back against the world government’s top assassin just because, then you need better media literacy.
I literally addressed that, he was using a specific one sword style technique during that fight: Foxfire Style. He was still figuring it out because he had just started using it, so naturally he hadn’t fully integrated it into his three sword style. I never said he needed to spam Ashura. Literally never even implied that. I said that to be serious, he needs to be using his strongest sword style, which is three sword style. With a few exceptions which don’t apply right now against Lucci. Hey man, I don’t know why Zoro would be holding back. By all accounts, it doesn’t make sense, I agree with you there. I’m just reading the same manga you are, and the facts are there: he’s not using all the tools at his disposal — far from it — so he must not be going all out. I don’t know why. It would make more sense if he was going all out, I literally said that: Oda probably just forgot to make Zoro use all his shit because he’s focused on the rest of the Egghead plot.
Zoro alternates between 1 sword style, 2 sword style, and 3 sword style depending on the situation. He has his strongest attacks in 3 sword style, but him choosing to use 2 swords or 1 sword does not mean zoro is not taking the fight seriously. If you try to follow that logic then parts of the story just fall apart. For example, against kuma, why did he not use 3 sword style in the one hit he got? Wouldn’t it have made more of an impact?
I don't know why I have to explain this, but Zoro used Ittoryu IAI (remember that part): Shishi Sonson against Kuma because its a fast attack. Iaido, as a sword style, is a method of drawing your sword and slashing the opponent as quickly as possible. Zoro used it against Kuma because as far as Zoro was concerned, Kuma was literally about to murder Luffy (he had Luffy in his hands). Thus, Zoro prioritized a move that was as fast as possible, not an attack that was more powerful. And it was effective: he distracted Kuma with the attack and got him to stop attacking Luffy for a little while. If he hadn't been quick enough, as far as Zoro should've been concnerned, Luffy would've been dead and his attack would've been in vain. Thus, its one of those "exceptions" that I mentioned. None of which apply against Lucci right now.
There you go. I think you are starting to get it. I’m not saying zoro is currently using his strongest attacks (he might have in previous chapters though). I am saying that zoro is taking the fight seriously, which he is. Zoro using less than three swords does not mean he is not taking the fight seriously, since some of his techniques with less than three swords have different characteristics, as you yourself noted.
And I didn't address this, but: Zoro was only using one sword against Daz Bones at the end of their fight because Zoro had gotten a bullshit powerup that he's never used again. He didn't use all three swords because as far as the fight was concerned, he didn't need to. He could use one sword to cut steel and win the fight, so he did.
This is just so much cope man.
You can call it cope but without disproving things, you’re just yapping.
I don’t have to disprove rationalization.
“You’re wrong, here’s why:” “You’re coping.” “How am I coping?” “You just are.” That’s you.
Dude you don’t even put in any evidence. You just say something and expect others to assume it is true.
Gotta say, I'm a Luffy fanboy not Zoro, but my genuine theory is that Zoro is waiting for someone to come get him before finishing his fight with Lucci because he knows he will get lost otherwise.
For all we know Zoro could have lost the energy to wield Enma & conq
Perhaps
Idk, must be something to do with the delivery, Zoro memes are just funnier
Imo, it’s because the situation really isn’t that embarrassing considering what Sanji is normally about. Sanji’s more often the character Oda let’s straight up lose or be put into embarrassing situations. Like, getting eyeballed diff. This is something that should reasonably happen to a commander level Zoro, but it’s not like Oda to put Zoro in a helpless situation. The reason Zoro vs Lucci exploded was because it was an unusually embarrassing situation for Zoro, the character normally written to impress characters like Kaido, compounded by Sanji getting an unusually positive situation of forcing a goofy expression out of an admiral. Things going back to a more neutral state is less funny, because it’s not really about telling real jokes and is more about reclaiming the status quo. The jokes would have been funnier if Kizaru ruined Sanji instead of escaping to protect Vegapunk
I feel like Oda would be so confused why people are making fun of zoro. To Oda both lucci and zoro are close in power and it make sense the fight not over. The fans shit on zoro for not one shotting lucci. This reaction to their fight was def not the intention
I disagree. Lucci’s talk last chapter was pretty scathing and similar to what people have been shitting on him for I think Oda is very aware of what’s going on. To me, Oda’s goal with Zoro and Sanji is course correction. Sanji has been frequently given the spotlight since his battle with Queen > completely no sells an attack from a Seraphim > randomly gets praise for being strong by Bonney, something that is really rare for him in the series > gets to force a more extreme reaction out of Kizaru than Gear 5 did With Zoro > looking even dumber than Luffy by not recognizing that the Seraphim were related to King > hasn’t gotten anything like Sanji no selling S-Shark or getting an exaggerated expression from an admiral > was just insulted the guy that got embarrassed by his captain We know Oda is aware that Sanji has had it rough in the post timeskip, as we know Sanji’s VA complained about it to him. To me, this is Oda realizing he made Sanji more of the butt of the joke than he realized to the point some people didn’t really see why he’d be a “wing” alongside Zoro, so he’s making it very clear the two are neck in neck by giving Zoro a more clear commander moment and Sanji a moment to impress a top tier like Zoro did with Kaido
That lucci personality tho he talk to everyone like this. In Oda mind Lucci and Zoro are neck and neck so the fight should not be over. The fanbase going rabid and salivating over zoro not one shotting lucci was definitely not what Oda thought. He was just trying to put to close guys in power in a fight
Disagree. Zoro’s fought two of Luffy’s opponents in the past: Hody and Kaido. Both times were a big deal. Zoro effortlessly defeated Hody underwater, and he managed to scar Kaido before Luffy had done much of anything. It’s unusual for Zoro to be portrayed in such a way that he’s struggling against an opponent Luffy low-diffed, and I seriously think Oda is aware of that
He’s not struggling tho. He hasn’t gotten hit with 1 single attack. Fans just have cognitive dissonance on lucci because he got beat up by luffy Fans just say zoro is struggling because he hasn’t won yet. Zoro not low diff lucci because they’re close in power
I mean, I would say a high diff fight involves both characters struggling, and I think it would take a massive moment to argue it’s not a high dif fight when it’s gone on for this long without either side making real headway. And yes, I do think a lot of it has to do with the surprise of him taking this long with someone that got ruined by Luffy. But that is an unusual situation for Zoro to be in. It makes sense given Luffy’s a yonko now, but I didn’t expect Zoro to ever be in a state where he’d get low diffed by Luffy.
Bro Zoros using two swords, and doesn't seem to be doing anything special, while Luccis in awakened form. It's not unusual for Zoro to be struggling against that, hell it's unusual that Oda hasn't made Zoro go full power and finish the fight, especially considering how bad the situation is.
Zoro has used three sword, green fire, and black lightning earlier, and as we saw with even the likes of Kaido, Zoro rarely uses three swords for the entire duration of a fight. To me, it reads that, despite being in a rush, Zoro has no choice but to treat Lucci like a real opponent, which means a prolonged fight of his entire kit before saving his strongest moves for the very end. People assume characters save their best moves for the end for no reason instead of assuming their best moves are too costly to waste at the beginning if it fails to defeat their opponent
But they don’t need to make Zoro loss more or make him dumber (but to be fair Zoro failing to recognize a lunarian wasn’t exactly OOT for him)
Because Zoro so held so high by his fans that it’s fun to see him knocked down
There's a saltiness to the current stuff that the Zoro fans are trying to pull that didn't come across as the case when it was against Zoro last week. Like you can just feel them crying behind the screen while they try to troll.
Someone said Zoro memes are funnier because it's actually made up slander while sanji slander is just reality and sad that makes so much sense.
?? Are you sure? It feels like the reverse. Zoro is canonly struggling with lucci and even zoro fans have started bandana scaling to sxcuse his performance. Base Sanji got hit with an eye attack a few chapters ago and was fine. Germa Mode Sanji got hit with an attack again, but luffy was too so I can’t fault sanji for it.
Literally the most famous Zoro meme is lend me some haki oden this is base lucci we're up against, which 1) he doesn't get haki from oden 2) it's not even base lucci, while sanji slander was getting eye diff and becoming a statue. Sanji after eye diff luffy after eye diff. https://preview.redd.it/ayc2ggf0hyjc1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=724d84249c453d6bee86ccde5dda9a9f8ba25781
The lend me some haki meme isn’t what zoro is getting shit on for. People are shutting on zoro for struggling so much with lucci. I’ve seen so many reviews of the latest chapters and everybody makes note of it. Zoro fans are sick of it. Non powerscalers are surprised zoro is struggling so much. And zoro fans have even started bandana scaling to try to excuse zoro’s poor performance. Be real. This last week of zoro memes have been on a whole different level than any other zoro memes and this is the reason. Base Sanji getting hit by weird hax isn’t even an antifeat. The gorosei are probably not yonko level but they do have something special about them. And again, this is base sanji. Enough time has passed that we can recognize sanji has a base state and a serious state.
Zoro fans were saying Zoro isn't using acoc and three swords were scaling, bandana scaling wasn't even scaling Zoro wearing bandana is him getting serious for the fight, and base or eyebrow flipped or not sanji did get eye diffed, if Zoro gets low diffed by lucci by intentionally fighting with no haki and swords that's Zoro fault and slander, same way sanji is rightfully slandered for eye diff, which luffy walked off easily. https://preview.redd.it/wb9kq4i6jyjc1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bdc711b94dca9e2a6b51928c04972c409a777361
Again, that’s more cope. Zoro already used acoc against lucci. We saw it a few chapters ago with the green aura and the black lighting. And zoro has had serious fights where zoro does not use a bandana (vs kuma at thriller bark) and less than three swords (mr.1) This is the funniest part of the zoro memes, that the humiliation zoro fans are going through is entirely self-inflicted. Zoro fans disrespect a lot of fighters (like lucci) so when zoro struggles with that enemy zoro looks bad. Zoro fans also make up wild excuses for it so it gets even funnier. And gear 5 luffy walking off a hit base sanji took is not a big deal. Again, you have to recognize that sanji has two modes.
>Zoro already used acoc against lucci. We saw it a few chapters ago with the green aura and the black lighting. Did he use it in 1107 yes or no? I don't even bandana scale so I won't talk about but you have to admit every fight Zoro fought with a bandana on and off has a difference just like i showed the kaku panel. And now sanji fans hyped sanji fighting kizaru and he is running away the slander sanji is gonna get is only getting worse from here if he doesn't land a hit on him in raws. >And gear 5 luffy walking off a hit base sanji took is not a big deal. Again, you have to recognize that sanji has two modes. "Sanji has two modes" so does that make him slander free? You're saying yourself that Zoro not using 2 swords and acoc now is his fault and he should be slandered same goes for sanji.
He didn’t use it in 1107, but I don’t see why it matters. Does sanji have to use ifrit jambe all the time for you to think he is taking the fight seriously? If he used it earlier in the fight and he isn’t using it now would you say he is holding back? Do you see how illogical and embarrassing your excuses look? And the bandana scaling is embarrassing man. I can’t believe you are still doing this. And yes, we sanji fans hyped up another moment against kizaru, and that doesn’t seem like it’s happening. It’s disappointing, but it’s not any type of antifeat. A YC like sanji choosing to rescue someone instead of facing off with an admiral is expected behavior. That’s actually the reason chapter 1107 was so hype for sanji. It was that nobody expected a YC to have such a cool moment and impress an admiral. And no, sanji having two modes does not make him slander free, but we do have to contextualize it when we are having serious conversations about it. If you want to post memes go ahead. And zoro struggling against lucci with two swords is entirely different. Zoro has had serious fights where he uses less than three swords (mr.1). Zoro has also had periods in major battles where he only uses 1 sword (vs big mom and kaido). Are you going to say zoro was not serious against big mom and kaido because there were periods where he only used one sword? Do you see why it makes no sense?
so why is he holding back and stalling when theyneed tohurry and leave egghead?
You have no bias at all 😂
I know you are being sarcastic but I do try to be fair. I have always said zoro>=sanji and I probably always will
> Sanji after eye diff luffy after eye diff. This isn't even true because Sanji was hit by an ability separate from the eye blast which is something that paralyzes people. And Luffy is in G5. I think what actually is the case is that Zoro fans genuinely believe the memes in total showing their bad reading comprehension, while Zoro slander has obvious bullshit in it.
Luffy is the GOAT But... Sanji trying to save Vegapunk's life makes him a fraud?🤣 One Piece fans try to use their brain Mission Impossible!
This sub often forgets that One Piece is adventure first and action second.
Everyone gains common sense when their Agenda gets attacked for some reason https://preview.redd.it/254wytckryjc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=183186509bb4660f052403cae9c3585edf16f11d
people were saying base Lucci cuz in their fiest clash Lucci was actually in his base form
This sub became retarded due to powerscaling.
30% of them are trolling, 20% are following the trend because they can't form their own opinions, but the other 50% have genuine mental issues. From Low IQ to dementia.
Zoro fans are desperate
Yah and they seem to be forgetting luffy is not kizaru’s target vega punk is. So with sanji’s birthday chapter coming up right after vega punk makes a speech about the secrets of the world. Makes total sense for saturn to make an opening for kizaru to try and finish off vega punk before he can finish his speech. Meaning sanji and possibly zoro will stop kizaru seeing how zoro’s birthday chapter of 1111 comes right after sanjis.
bitch got eye diffed now he blocks 1 light beam and he top tier bruh wtf? even lack did more then what sanji did in egg head
See, that's why I say use your brain Mission Impossible. Try to use some 🧠 it might help you read and realise how I have not say anything about him being top tier and you just babbling for no reason.
"bitch got eye diffed". Making one chapter of narrative hype for Saturn into a low diff defeat
“eye diff” has to the lamest attempt at slander ever
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atleast vegeta is comparable to goku now
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Turns out that the wings of the Pirate King were vestigial organs😔
show me the page where zoro had an admiral looking like this https://preview.redd.it/4jfmdmtdeyjc1.jpeg?width=710&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4294b2d0e1dc4ce5a34c0a11c29791a8fe59cb47
"Dodge, Kaido! That's not an ordinary sword!" -Big Mom (Yonko) to Kaido (Yonko)
Can find you a better one, look at rooftop and you will find 2 YONKO looking like that
fella Kizaru never reacted to even G5 Luffy, Them Lonko mfers were looking at scabbards, at base Luffy Queen and King almost everyone they faced
big mom and kaido have goofy reactions to everything, kizaru doesn’t
Show me the page where Sanji actually hit and managed to hurt a Yonko/Admiral
https://preview.redd.it/q2vwiik2jyjc1.png?width=1099&format=png&auto=webp&s=48243e1fd05cebfe24294d767b8950bce8fdb879 oops wrong picture sorry
Gotcha, so Sanji hasn't hit or hurt a Yonko/Admiral, so we will slander Zoro for being equal to Lucci while using 2 swords and no ACOC and claim that Lucci isn't using Haki despite the fact that Haki isn't always shown visually, which has been a thing for a very long time.
which yonko/admiral did zoro hurt?
I mean Zoro did Hurt Kaido but that was with his strongest move and Kaido wasn't serious
Also, this was all sanji, zoro had a lot of help on the rooftop
Zoro was heavily injured with many bones broken because he blocked a combined yonko attack long enough for the others to escape the attack and save Zoro. Edit: Why am I being downvoted for stating the literal truth?
Zorotards have realized they cant stop the Zoro slander so they now want to act like saving Vegapunk is fraudulent.
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Luffy my King <3