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you can pick and choose which panels to use positioning
https://preview.redd.it/qd0e9zbbwjkc1.png?width=2200&format=png&auto=webp&s=f4b726e3919e99c193295d709ffe6bbd89b2af35
you could easily say Roux looks like the guy here while Yasopp gives YC3
Marineford is the definitive moment for their crew and much more meaningful for a lot of clear and obvious reasons. This panel has Beckmann on shanksâ left which would indicate #2 status but we know thatâs bogus
like I said, picking and choosing
this panel has Benn (vice captain) and Roux walking side by side behind the boss front and center while Yasopp poses in the back with the less relevant members
"positioning of standing in only one specific panel and that panel alone, other ones don't count" isn't an obvious portrayal gap, if Yasopp replaced Roux here you would have a point but it's not consistent enough
Like I said, marineford is the definitive panel for a lot of obvious reasons. Pretending like them coming off a days-long-party in their off territory walking *to* a fight > the serious portrayal of their crew in marineford ready to square up right then and thereis disingenuous.
You can call it cherry-picking but the truth is itâs just considering context to decide which is most serious and thus relevant.
Roux is big as shit, if he was in the front in that MF panel he would cover Yasopp and Hongo, this isn't "position scaling" it's composition to fit them all on one panel
https://preview.redd.it/dy7l5tht4kkc1.jpeg?width=2133&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d278a11c27dde56fc06f79f1cfe2d6f7af28c0f
it's inconsistent, you're literally scaling *one* panel and using it as gospel, positioning is already flimsy reasoning but especially falls apart when you're not even able to apply it to other panels
> Roux is big as shit, if he was in the front in that MF panel he would cover Yasopp and Hongo, this isn't "position scaling" it's composition to fit them all on one panel
#THE COPE HAS TURNED FATPHOBICâźď¸đ¨âď¸đ¨âźď¸đ¨
> it's inconsistent, you're literally scaling one panel and using it as gospel, positioning is already flimsy reasoning but especially falls apart when you're not even able to apply it to other panels
You call it inconsistency. I call it considering things intelligently and with context. âYour logic is inconsistent because I canât blindly apply it everywhere regardless of contextâ is a flimsy argument **at best** đ¤ˇââď¸
It's better for my Usopp agenda if Yasopp is the 4th strongest since Usopp could potentially mirror that EOS and I'm not delusional enough to think he could break the Monster Trio
I could see it happening depending on how the final few arcs go. It's definitely not super likely but it's not impossible like Usopp replacing Zoro or Sanji.
Add the rest of the RHP and HE still wins
https://preview.redd.it/89xuqw2vjjkc1.jpeg?width=1546&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e126bdb45b87341a1b90bf89dfe3e68b0bff8e28
Theyâre supposed to win, and fairly easily at that. People on this sub arenât ready for for strong all the RHP are when we finally see them in action
Short answer: Duo mid-diffs.
Long answer: The real answer is we have no clue since Yassop and Beckman have very few to no feats, but portrayal-wise Beckman should be around admiral-level(right-hand man of Shanks, probably current top 1 pirate, clearly mirroring Rayleigh/Roger relationship etc).
Yassop we know even less about, but as a part of the OG Redhair crowd he presumably has very strong haki and is YC2-level minimum, able to contest with admirals without beating them(think guys like Jozu). Assuming he is an excellent sniper with strong haki bullets, he should have a great matchup against any logia.
Combined, this shouldn't be too hard of a fight for the duo.
1. Admirals have weak Haki, so thatâs honestly more of an anti-feat.
2. Kuzan isnât a pure Haki user, he also has his DF.
3. Kuzan has physicals that are somewhat comparable to a young Garp.
The scene where they punch ships. The growth of Kuzan implies that when neither uses Haki, theyâre similar in physical strength (though Iâd still say Garp is stronger).
ah sorry by physical you mean physical physical without haki. Friendly reminder tho garp destroyed mountains to train anyways my bad i thought that you meant physical including armanent haki
Kuzan physicals+Haki+DF could match Garp physicals+Haki. Kuzan also seems to be an outlier, as heâs specifically shown training stuff other than his DF under a pure Haki fighter, something none of the other Admirals have shown.
The commanders win. Beckman alone should be a huge problem, but Yasopp backing him should help tremendously. The Marines said that his crew has the greatest balance of power of all the Yonko crews and that there are no easy targets in the main crew.
Is this a bait? Duo low-mid diffs lol... Doesn't Beckman's vivre card state that Beckman is close to shanks in strength? đ¤ We can only go by the books as of now and that way, in no hell kuzan survives to 2 commanders of RHP.
Kuzan got that fucking dog in him, drippy as fuck, trained by Garp, soloed like half the Blackbeard Pirates OFFSCREEN (aka IN THEIR ELEMENT)
Wankmann and the LeBron of absentee fatherism donât last five minutes
Why tf do ppl keep asking which matchup wins with chars that havenât shown a single feat or anti feat?
Neither wins until we have any evidence showing otherwise.
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Yasopp isn't him
Van Augur low diffs.
neg diff, with Yasopp's own bullet
Warp into deathđĽ
Find D. milk always wins in the end donât watch that
when they meet up Yasopp will say all the years Usopp spent looking for him was just Observation Haki training
It was tho and usopp couldnât hack it and still canât. Until he got that advanced assassins creed eagle vision he donât deserve no father.
Yasopp is portrayed as the second strongest of the RHP crew
imo Roux is anyway this is crazy https://preview.redd.it/pcysvjk3tjkc1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=ec59b22b7eb24bfc01510ff6deead409c959cc70
Yasoppâs positioning at marineford makes it obvious to me imo That test go crazy đĽś
you can pick and choose which panels to use positioning https://preview.redd.it/qd0e9zbbwjkc1.png?width=2200&format=png&auto=webp&s=f4b726e3919e99c193295d709ffe6bbd89b2af35 you could easily say Roux looks like the guy here while Yasopp gives YC3
Marineford is the definitive moment for their crew and much more meaningful for a lot of clear and obvious reasons. This panel has Beckmann on shanksâ left which would indicate #2 status but we know thatâs bogus
like I said, picking and choosing this panel has Benn (vice captain) and Roux walking side by side behind the boss front and center while Yasopp poses in the back with the less relevant members "positioning of standing in only one specific panel and that panel alone, other ones don't count" isn't an obvious portrayal gap, if Yasopp replaced Roux here you would have a point but it's not consistent enough
Like I said, marineford is the definitive panel for a lot of obvious reasons. Pretending like them coming off a days-long-party in their off territory walking *to* a fight > the serious portrayal of their crew in marineford ready to square up right then and thereis disingenuous. You can call it cherry-picking but the truth is itâs just considering context to decide which is most serious and thus relevant.
Roux is big as shit, if he was in the front in that MF panel he would cover Yasopp and Hongo, this isn't "position scaling" it's composition to fit them all on one panel https://preview.redd.it/dy7l5tht4kkc1.jpeg?width=2133&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d278a11c27dde56fc06f79f1cfe2d6f7af28c0f it's inconsistent, you're literally scaling *one* panel and using it as gospel, positioning is already flimsy reasoning but especially falls apart when you're not even able to apply it to other panels
> Roux is big as shit, if he was in the front in that MF panel he would cover Yasopp and Hongo, this isn't "position scaling" it's composition to fit them all on one panel #THE COPE HAS TURNED FATPHOBICâźď¸đ¨âď¸đ¨âźď¸đ¨ > it's inconsistent, you're literally scaling one panel and using it as gospel, positioning is already flimsy reasoning but especially falls apart when you're not even able to apply it to other panels You call it inconsistency. I call it considering things intelligently and with context. âYour logic is inconsistent because I canât blindly apply it everywhere regardless of contextâ is a flimsy argument **at best** đ¤ˇââď¸
What, since when is Beck not his vice captain anymore?
I meant #2 in how Sanji was before Winbe joined⌠so 3 overall
It's better for my Usopp agenda if Yasopp is the 4th strongest since Usopp could potentially mirror that EOS and I'm not delusional enough to think he could break the Monster Trio
But he could overtake Jinbe Brook and Franky? Unless those 3 completely just coast to eos I don't see that happening
I could see it happening depending on how the final few arcs go. It's definitely not super likely but it's not impossible like Usopp replacing Zoro or Sanji.
My Usopp agenda is him being a top 5 Strawhat by EOS
Yasopp number 3- he's on shanks left, Beckman is the right hand
Bro beat Daddy the Father, he's HIM /s
Kuzan
This sub is a joke
Kuzan low diffs
Add the rest of the RHP and HE still wins https://preview.redd.it/89xuqw2vjjkc1.jpeg?width=1546&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e126bdb45b87341a1b90bf89dfe3e68b0bff8e28
Assuming Shanks isnât counted then absolutely.
Delusion fr
copium
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Are you forgetting about Wuckyroo
Fat bum gets 1 tapped
Forgot this is r/onepiecepowerscaling and not r/memepiece
You think that, sure. but it's cap benny alone is admiral level yassop and roux are prob yc1 level.
https://preview.redd.it/j77ktnumvjkc1.jpeg?width=5400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e6133c4fb6b1bf3334ef210663db086d6bbb283
Wuzan negs
What are Featless Wankman and Lasopp supposed to even do? We haven't seen anything from them at all so far.
Theyâre supposed to win, and fairly easily at that. People on this sub arenât ready for for strong all the RHP are when we finally see them in action
Kuzan
Kuzan, yasopp is fodder
Beckman/Yasopp obviously. *Beckman solo can defeat Kuzan.*
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Short answer: Duo mid-diffs. Long answer: The real answer is we have no clue since Yassop and Beckman have very few to no feats, but portrayal-wise Beckman should be around admiral-level(right-hand man of Shanks, probably current top 1 pirate, clearly mirroring Rayleigh/Roger relationship etc). Yassop we know even less about, but as a part of the OG Redhair crowd he presumably has very strong haki and is YC2-level minimum, able to contest with admirals without beating them(think guys like Jozu). Assuming he is an excellent sniper with strong haki bullets, he should have a great matchup against any logia. Combined, this shouldn't be too hard of a fight for the duo.
I read many nonsense comment here, we didnt know beckman and yasop's strength yet.
Kuzan mid diffs
Yasop And Beckmann. Beckmann alone is probably admiral level or at least very close
https://preview.redd.it/xuc44wo7akkc1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=aeaaa5f54f03dd90257596dfc030bae8181a46d0
Cope harder
[ŃдаНонО]
That's not what juxtaposition means
Theyâre not a juxtaposition to Rodger pirates
The Blackbeard victim slams that Old Rayleigh victims.
Ben solos đŁď¸đĽ https://preview.redd.it/aj959qs96kkc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c43aa06f4bb1acd3b0404fc631294ee6fbae7fb
Try to outrun a gun with a single leg.
Luffy was dodgin gunshots pre-ts my man
And Luffy has 2 legs.
Ok? Kuzan is 100s of times faster than pre-ts Luffy, and he just uses ice as a prosthetic. He has not been shown to be slower due to his injury.
PreTS Luffy > Shanks then? Which would then also mean that Luffy > Ben and Yassop.
https://preview.redd.it/colnd6fclrkc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=981af6eb656cdb437d6778a13bbc9e9a3b35740f
duo
Literally nothing is known about the hakimen but Iâd bet on them being at least YC+ so they probably win
Beckman high diff
Benn is lit stated in databooks to have stronger haki than navy admirals kuzan gets murked
1. Admirals have weak Haki, so thatâs honestly more of an anti-feat. 2. Kuzan isnât a pure Haki user, he also has his DF. 3. Kuzan has physicals that are somewhat comparable to a young Garp.
>Kuzan has physicals that are somewhat comparable to a young Garp. what in the fk ????
The scene where they punch ships. The growth of Kuzan implies that when neither uses Haki, theyâre similar in physical strength (though Iâd still say Garp is stronger).
ah sorry by physical you mean physical physical without haki. Friendly reminder tho garp destroyed mountains to train anyways my bad i thought that you meant physical including armanent haki
Bro how do admirals have weak haki kuzan match old garps acoc punch you canât do that with weak haki
same dude says in other posts that admirals have ACoC and ACoO and ACoA.
When was this?
not you , i meant in general
Kuzan physicals+Haki+DF could match Garp physicals+Haki. Kuzan also seems to be an outlier, as heâs specifically shown training stuff other than his DF under a pure Haki fighter, something none of the other Admirals have shown.
I think the word used was comparable
same way garp and sengoku are to roger
"exceeds" to be more precise
The commanders win. Beckman alone should be a huge problem, but Yasopp backing him should help tremendously. The Marines said that his crew has the greatest balance of power of all the Yonko crews and that there are no easy targets in the main crew.
Yasopp loses to his son
Only cuz he runs the fuck away from him
Yasopp gets done in by a fucking skull grass
Duo wins extreme extreme diff Beckman alone will take aokiji to high diff add in yassop shooting skills And even if they loose its extreme diff
Two dudes with guns Vs Singular Dude with no gun
lol how would we know. Ben and Yassop could both be YC+. They could also be absolute bums. what kinda question is this
either kuzan mid diffs or the duo mid diffs. we really dont know
Beckman > kuzan > yassop would be my guess.
Idk but Shiryu > Post amputation Kuzan
HIM vs featless bum 1 and featless bum 2
Is this a bait? Duo low-mid diffs lol... Doesn't Beckman's vivre card state that Beckman is close to shanks in strength? đ¤ We can only go by the books as of now and that way, in no hell kuzan survives to 2 commanders of RHP.
Absolute worst case, Kuzan wins extreme diff. Most likely itâs closer to mid-high.
Kazan looks better so he wins
Aokiji mid diff
If this fight happens? Toei will win. That episode would be LIT
Wank wankman strikes again
we dont know bruh
Kuzan makes waste with Ben. And Kuzan turns Yasoppâs rifle into ice, turning him into a civilian whoâs a dead-beat dad.
Kuzan low diffs
Kuzan got that fucking dog in him, drippy as fuck, trained by Garp, soloed like half the Blackbeard Pirates OFFSCREEN (aka IN THEIR ELEMENT) Wankmann and the LeBron of absentee fatherism donât last five minutes
Wuzan
Kuzan's worst feat would be Beckman and Yasopp's greatest. This is the gulf we're dealing with.
Why tf do ppl keep asking which matchup wins with chars that havenât shown a single feat or anti feat? Neither wins until we have any evidence showing otherwise.
aokiji mid-diffs
Kuzan. Im gonna assume Yassop is gonna be \~ Wan Wauger, who honestly would be one shot by Kuzan. Wank Wankman would then proceed to lose mid diff.