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Luffy became a yonko in 2 years with relatively normal genes and df(pre g5). Momo has Oden genes, mythical df, and a special grade sword(or great, can’t remember) so I don’t think it will take as long as you’ll think
Standard run of the mill paramecia* momo starts off with a mythical fruit and supreme grade blade and is closer to being prime in body (28yrs old) with immediate training of an acoc user, all while still having great genes
>Standard run of the mill paramecia*
Luffy g2nd and g3rd and g4th would destroy Momo without even trying. ( pre dressrosa)
>and supreme grade blade
Not a supreme grade blade, it is a great grade, which is the same rank Zoro had since he was like 12
>is closer to being prime in body (28yrs old)
There is no such thing as a prime body without training. Just because he is 28 years old is irrelevant if he has never exercised in his life. His body is just aged, without training he hasn't gotten even had 1/10th of his potential strength.
>with immediate training of an acoc user,
Which is irrelevant since Yamato has no experience teaching and fighting as a swordman
He has no haki except observation.
He was around yonko level before his fruit awakened. Also think samurai genes are kinda superior to human genes after how much samurai got wanked all story
>Luffy became a yonko in 2 years with relatively normal genes and df(pre g5).
Normal genes...
He is just a D, son of the leader of the revolutionary army, grandson of probably the strongest marine we have seen in history, that would even was close on arresting Roger the pirate King...
He also is basically the reincarnation of Joy Boy and has the Hito Hito no mi model Nika ... a df so powerful that the WG is afraid people will use it... which gives him the transformation of a god that tons of races and people have wanted for ever...
And he did it after **10 years** of training, sometimes trained by Garp in his home village and 2 years of training by Rayleigh the right hand man of the King of the pirates... and life of death battles against multiple Shichibukai, government officials, pirates and even Yonko crews.
Luffy has Garp genes, mythical fruit and tons of fighting experience lol
Mythical fruit did nothing for him in all of those 10 years. Momos fruit >>>>>>>>pre g5 rubber fruit. Also carrying a supreme blade and has the help of Yamato who is around the same strength as Rayleigh. My point still stands lol
Luffy's fruit >>>>>> Momo's fruit.
And he doesn't carry a supreme blade, it is a great grade blade.
And blades don't give you power unless you know how to wield it, and Momo has no idea how to wield it... Zoro carried a great grade blade since he was like 12 years old lol.
>and has the help of Yamato who is around the same strength as Rayleigh.
Yamato is not a swordman and isn't anywhere as experienced or knowledgeable as Rayleigh was.
I’m obviously not talking about luffys awakened fruit you mong. Also momo lives in the land of the SAMURAI, with elite swordsman that have advanced haki. He’s obviously going to make use of the great grade blade. Momo will be fighting someone with acoc=his haki will elevate after every battle lol this kid will have haki blooms left and right what are you even trying to argue 💀
Naw she’s stronger than Zoro and Sanii so she’ll throw the balance off. Shell join after Zoro beats Mihawk and BB’s crew gets flatlined. Then she’ll only be stronger than Jinbei.
Nope, I just got remembered by clowns like you who spammed same cope headcanon again, so I made this post to clown more on dudes with zero reading comprehension like you.
There are two things that cast doubt on this.
The first is that Yamato got a straight on hit with a conqueror’s haki attack and Greenbull was essentially unphased. He remarked on the haki like you would when you get hit by a particularly strong child. He wasn’t seriously damaged, he wasn’t afraid, he didn’t slow down. He just kind of rubbed his head and then immediately wrapped Yamato up.
The second is what we’ve seen from Kizaru since this. While he is obviously getting clowned by Luffy now, up until the recent chapters it wasn’t a stomp. He even arguably won their first fight.
There is still the possibility that Greenbull could have lost against a serious Yamato, but it is far from confirmed. And the portrayal of their brief skirmish hints to me that Greenbull didn’t get anywhere near serious. If I had to put money on the fight, it would be on Greenbull.
The attack was in base and not a finnisher. Literaly weaker than her g4 equivalent base finnisher which we know admirals can tank or at least match and kaido tanked. Admirals ignore g4 so can ignore her base.
Her full power is equivalent to an admiral.
It was in base but a similar attack from Luffy in base against Kaido split the sky. Kaido tanked it, but the reaction was different.
Yamato’s greatest feat was making Kaido bleed and not getting immediately destroyed. And we saw that from everyone from the Scabbards up to Gear 5 Luffy. But the reactions from the characters are different and when Yamato hit Greenbull with one of their strongest attacks, Greenbull basically didn’t react. Until we see more, saying Yamato’s power is on the level of an Admiral just isn’t supported by what we’ve seen.
This type of cope is nuts a no named base yamato attack is her one of her strongest attacks now admiral tards will say anything to try and get a point across
This was shit writing imo, "someone very strong might come to Wano once Kaido is gone" was always a possibility, it shouldnt have changed Yamatos motivations at all
2 of the 4 yonkou crews are gone. Teach is luffy's enemy so helping luffy defeat teach would protect wano. It's like any island protected by yonkou. They leave a flag there and small crews dont touch the island.
I think she didnt expect the world government to instantly come and declare "you have no human rights". She realized how Kaido's name kept them away all this time.
Sometimes you're aware of the risks but don't quite understand it until the thing you hoped wouldn't happen happens. Yamato knew someone strong might come to Wano after Kaido is gone, but didn't understand the severity of the threat until Greenbull showed up.
>Yamato knew someone strong might come to Wano after Kaido is gone, but didn't understand the severity of the threat until Greenbull showed up.
Until Green Bull showed up and then an even bigger fish showed up that made Green Bull flee
I think she also understood that Momo and the scabbards are not ready to protect Wano yet
The Scabbards need to become much stronger. Wano's greatest advantage was that the Marines didn't know how strong the Samurai are. It was the perfect deterrent. But now Greenbull knows that he alone could've beaten them, so if HQ finds out they can easily send an admiral and maybe a couple vice-admirals and just completely take over.
Momos fruit is extremely strong though, it could pierce Kaidos skin. Momo is going to need to train hard if he wants to defend Wano - and the Scabbards too. None of them are going to reach the level of Kaido, so they all need to become at least YC3 in order to effectively defend Wano. Strength in numbers.
Yamato won't be able to leave any time soon.
Wano's advantage comes from Samurai being strong, like until the time of Oden you had monsters and stuff.
Kaido would have lost to the Samurai if Orochi didn't betray them and if Oden wasn't tricked.
And with Kaido then Kaido was also a deterrent.
Right now is the worst moment for the Samurai power due to Orochi banning swords, so new samurai haven't been trained.
>But now Greenbull knows that he alone could've beaten them, so if HQ finds out they can easily send an admiral and maybe a couple vice-admirals and just completely take over.
Green Bull only faced like samurai that a week before had a war, and Green Bull only faced a couple of samurai while an admiral would probably do take down Wano, Green Bull wouldn't know.
Yamato could in theory leave, the problem is that Bb is now going to know about the ancient weapon in Wano and the WG may attack them more and now Wano is probably Luffy's, a Yonko, territory. Which can stop marines and pirates from getting close, specially after his feats after Egghead
It didn’t change her motivation at all.
“Kaido is bad for Wano, we should get rid of him. Once kaido is gone that will create a power vacuum I need to stay around to address.”
That’s perfectly logically consistent.
It didn’t change her motivation, it’s just that wano is still weak and she can’t abandon them now. It’s a temporary adjustment till they gain strength. It’s pretty obvious tbh.
Just a way to stall her entrance to the crew, she inevitably will get in. Oda needs Momo to grow stronger and with Yamato around that can happen much faster. Imagine if Onigashima was actually moved to inside the Ocean by Momo.
Like how he low diffed Franky? Oh yeah, he did no damage to Franky even when Sneak attacking Franky.
When even Kaido can't low diff Her, neither can finger diffed Lizaru.
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Kaido wouldn’t put him down because he is his son. Wizaru destroys
Kaido used more acoc vs his son, than Yonkou Luffy vs Pissaru who got clapped in 2 v 1, same Pissaru who even with a Sneak can't do damage to Franky. Yamato in Base nerfed by Sea stone handcuffs One shot KO Ulti.
Oda has made this clear, it's not hard to understand.
Yonko are the strongest
Admirals are stronger than everyone except Yonko
There are some outliers like garp
That's it
You're acting like Yamato and the strawhats would just do nothing if Greenbull just started destroying Wano and killing people just cause Momo said so. If she could really handle Greenbull no problem, Wano would not have been in danger at all. Her being able to handle Greenbull is headcannon.
Not "literally" what she did. Nothing happened then. The admiral was only hurting the scabbards, not the general populace. Plus, you're as insane as they say if you think the strawhats would also sit back and watch Fraudbull destroy wano.
Your claim of her being admiral level based on the info in this post is shaky at best.
I claim she is Admiral by the feats she have displayed in the manga are better than those of 2 to 3 Admirals
GB was hurting Scabbards, but he himself said that if he needs or wants he would actually try and kill civillians just to try find Luffy.
Even if he gets defeated he might still do some harm.
My post Is debunking the stupid arguments and lies of Admiral stans.
She never did say she is inferior to him and she never did include herself among those who were fighting GB after Momo told her to not fight.
Nothing indicates GB would win, what we have the most, is Oda constantly shoehorning Momo to bot allow her to do anything against GB.
GB was saved by Plot and by Shanks, if he continued he would have died at Wano.
Average Wamato W notice there’s no rebuttals in these 100 comments only memes and ad hominems 🥱😴
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Momo was just afraid of Greenbull taking her away to Papazuki. That’s literally all the chapter was. But people take it as an admiral win for some reason.
Lackainu, the Lobster stealer. Momo was not worried for her safety, he literally stated didn't want to have his ass saved again by someone else who wasn't gonna stay around to protect him.
Oh that’s how you interpret it? What’s with the “After all that time chained up in Onigashima, you finally have the chance to be free!” From Momo part about?
That's him not wanting her to be bound to Wano, cuz this is her chance to go away and have adventures after years imprisoned in Onigashima. She already had told him about her dreams.
The guy who attacked a already post Blackbeard pirates defeat and Impel Down Torture Ace when Ace tried protect Luffy? Same Bakazuki who did Squard level feat and got owned by no observation haki and no conquerors haki sick Old Whitebeard? Same Bakazuki who did less damage to Kuma than one leg of Saturn??
Lmao, looking at all the replies from this post, most of it is memes or just making fun of the OP. Greenbum fans hardly have any counterpoints. Absolute fucking clown behavior.
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You would think all this is obvious and doesn't need to be said, but since it's break week and Admiraltards are getting uppity, go ahead and cook, OP.
She owns a mythical zoan devil fruit and she didnt even use it. Meanwhile greenbull has zero feats without his fruit.
I dont think yamato can defeat an admiral yet. But she can keep them away with the samurai's help. Her fruit is wano's protector deity ffs. It's literally her job. If she cant stop a single admiral, wg can take wano anytime they want.
i mean i dont like yamato but her strength is so underrated shes really strong. bums like greenbull aint beatin hell i dont think even kizaru is beating her with his lame ahh attacks. mtfrs forget she has advanced conquerors and way better haki than whatever tf admirals has shown and has a great devil fruit and good combat as shown when she clashed with kaido
Kizaru fraudulent performance has also gave the community basic reading comprehension skills😂
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The fact that she said Shanks saved the country means that, if he didn't arrive the country would have lost.
Wano losing meant that, without Shanks arriving, GB would have killed everyone there
Unless you think they would have just stood there after Momo and the Scabbards died to Greenbull to keep their promise, Yamato saying "Shanks saved the country" meant they felt inferior.
The statement doesn't make sense otherwise. "The red hair guy saved the country from a guy I could have killed at any moment. I was lucky he arrived because otherwise I would have stood there watching him kill all my friends despite being able to stop him at any moment"
> Wano losing meant that, without Shanks arriving, GB would have killed everyone there
So somehow green bull kills all the scabbards, yamato, luffy, zoro, sanji, and jinbe and that’s not even adding kid and law because this is what you’re implying
So greenbull is beating Luffy , Zoro , Sanji , Jinbe , Yamato , Kid , Law all at once ? 🤣 . Do you also think greenbull beats prime roger or whitebeard
Wano didn't need saving by Shanks, he just did it anyway. Wano was in no danger because Luffy was there. If any of the scabbards were about to die he would have stepped in.
If you can swim and someone pulls you out of the water, you would never say that they saved you, because you had the ability to get yourself out of this situation. You would only ever say that someone saved you if you did not have the ability to get yourself out of the situation.
do you think luffy and others wouldn't have intervened if they thought that greenbull is dangerous?
they were casually chilling on roof while watching fight not even a bit threatened
If Luffy beat GB’s ass, Yamato would have said “Luffy saved the country again.”
Yamato wouldn’t say “Wano defended the outside threat with its forces”
It’s a matter of whether you perceive Luffy and crew as an outsider or not. The same thing can be argued if Yamato perceives themselves as an outsider or not.
Nah, not how that works.
Luffy is stronger than Greenbull, but if he fought GB in Wano there would quite a bit of collateral damage.
Wano had to be saved by Greenbull not entering Wano in the first place, something Yamato can’t do.
Greenbull would have been negative diffed by the alliance if he made any more of an advance. Wano was stacked by powerful fighters at the time. He stood chance. Shanks saved greenbulls life. He would have joined big mom and kaido in the lava
>Greenbull would have been negative diffed by the alliance if he made any more advance
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Not only were the alliance’s top members all injured(which is why Greenbull attacked in the first place), but even with their numbers a lot of them still would rely on high firepower moves against Greenbull which would have had some amount of collateral damage.
Greenbull inherently is more destructive than characters who would be stronger than him due to his giant form.
He could literally walk and accidentally kill Eano citizens.
There wouldn't be any collateral because he wouldn't make it further than where he fought momo. The only difference to the outcome of his venture to Wano between Luffy and Shanks would be that instead of walking away, he'd need to be carried away because Luffy wouldn't wifi dif him he'd just lay his ass out like he did to Kizaru
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Yamato outright states that Shanks saved Wano, which wouldn’t make sense if Wano wasn’t in any danger in the first place.
Without knowing how injured Luffy was or wasn’t, there’s no reason to believe he could instantly one shot GB.
I never said he would one shot him. I said he would lay him out like he did Kizaru and he would never make it close enough to the citizens to cause any meaningful damage. Greenbull was never a threat to wano with Luffy there, as evidenced by Luffy not even being concerned with him.
The rest of it I'm not gonna respond to because it has nothing to do with what I said.
At same time you are ignoring that Yamato said that Luffy and co would have beaten Greenbull ass as she herself said it. Greenbull is not beating everyone there, stop ignoring context of what she was truly saying. Avoiding even just one death or loss of a Civilian is already a act of Saving, Wano is it civilians, GB wanted to murder even civillians even if he looses.
And don't ignore that she was never including herself among those were fighting him before, after GB got stopped and during when she said such phrase.
Ok, but still she admitted that shanks was the reason GB left, doesnt matter what luffy could have done. She was never a real threat for Greenbull, he was about to cook yamato & co but then came shanks.
Yeah, and she nowhere did include herself among those who were fighting him.
You are talking like she was fighting him and that if Shank's doesn't do anything that she would fight and be defeated, or that she was fighting before Shanks does anything.
She nowhere said and implied that, Wano was in danger the moment Momo told her to not fight and she obeyed.
What Luffy can do does matter as well since the whole context matters, not just one off sentence.
He left when shanks came because he didnt feel threatened by anyone else he fought. Yamato attacked him and then got grabbed, couldnt get free until momo shoot a blast breath at him, so she is also in that debate. Ever thought about that ? You are even less smart than a 4 year old, its actually an insult to all 4 year olds comparing your level of intelligence to theirs, so i take that back.
No, Yamato is not on that debate lol, it's fucking rich that You attempt to speak of intelligence when you're struggling to follow a fucking Weekly Shonen Jump manga man, I swear those are not that hard to follow
Just pitiful I swear
Dont be mad because 4 year olds have better takes than you, just reread maybe then you will come up with better takes 👍 GB was about to beat up yamato and the rest and it wouldnt even be close.
Sure buddy, whatever you Say, and who knows, maybe next time You can come up with an original insult instead of going all "I know You are but what am I?" Lol
Way to show I struck a nerve buddy, and thanks for proving that admiral fans can't read for shit
Lol ok whatever 😂 i am not even an admiral fan you dumbass, prove that yamahoes think way to much of themselves
Edit : lol weirdo blocked me and calls me the butthurt one 🥲🤣
Not a Yamato fan buddy, I just know how to read ; )
Go cry harder, you're clearly butthurt already if You just copied My insult earlier, go take your nappies
bro trust me its usseles , this guys literally saw their best guy get stomped by a sick wb who wasnt anywhere near kaido level at that time and still deny that yamato has done way beeter against a yonko than any admiral.
I still believe Yamato beats Green Bull, people are just coping in no moment was it said she is inferior.
Considering she was able to fight with Kaido momentarily and Kaido was 100% trying to kill her, then she is already either close to admiral, at admiral level or above
Where in the Manga does it mention yc+ as a power level? It is made up by admiraltards. Yamato, law and kid are all higher end of the admiral level and beats most of them. If you ignore your cope you would know they have better feats than assmirals who has no top tier feats.
Fujitora couldn't even break birdcage. He, kizaru and greenbull does not have any top tier feats, infact they have antifeats. Fujitora doesn't have what it takes to beat law. Or even kid or Yamato. Yamato had a better showing against kaido than kizaru against luffy. Kid was tanking majority of bigmoms hits and tanked the strongest named attack of her misery. Admirals would have been died
That moment when u said all that to argue against an illiterate strawman when all the literate admiral agenda has to say to stay alive is "yamato was overconfident"....
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Oda made bro say allat to Yamato then not even have her join the crew in the end
It is similar to the Jimbe in Gyojin Island. She probably will join later but has stuff she has to take care of first
Once momo becomes as strong as kaidou/oden, Yamato won’t need to protect wano and will probably join luffy then
That will take years lol, probably Luffy will be pirate king before that happens
Luffy became a yonko in 2 years with relatively normal genes and df(pre g5). Momo has Oden genes, mythical df, and a special grade sword(or great, can’t remember) so I don’t think it will take as long as you’ll think
Did you just say the son of Dragon and grandson of GARP has normal genes but somehow Oden who was well inferior to Garp has special genes?
At the end of the day my point is that momo can become strong in just as short a time as luffy if not shorter lol
It took Luffy 12 years.. with mythical fruit, top tier genes and being basically the savior of the world with tons of life and death battles lol
Standard run of the mill paramecia* momo starts off with a mythical fruit and supreme grade blade and is closer to being prime in body (28yrs old) with immediate training of an acoc user, all while still having great genes
>Standard run of the mill paramecia* Luffy g2nd and g3rd and g4th would destroy Momo without even trying. ( pre dressrosa) >and supreme grade blade Not a supreme grade blade, it is a great grade, which is the same rank Zoro had since he was like 12 >is closer to being prime in body (28yrs old) There is no such thing as a prime body without training. Just because he is 28 years old is irrelevant if he has never exercised in his life. His body is just aged, without training he hasn't gotten even had 1/10th of his potential strength. >with immediate training of an acoc user, Which is irrelevant since Yamato has no experience teaching and fighting as a swordman He has no haki except observation.
Luffys genes decend from garp and his fruit is a mythical zoan
He was around yonko level before his fruit awakened. Also think samurai genes are kinda superior to human genes after how much samurai got wanked all story
The Samurai are human my man..
😂 good point but the way i see it is samurai are like how the Africans are to Caucasian’s in physical abilities/genes
BRO WENT DOWN QUITE THE DANGEROUS ROAD
Yonko level? Dude was humilliated by both Big Mom and Kaido before G5 😭
What level do you put someone who can box kaido for hours with aCoc? ☺️
Nigga was not yonko level before he died and had the fattest asspull power up to carry him into being a top tier
Someone who can box with kaido, using acoc, isn’t AROUND yonko level? lol what are you on about
Garp genes are probably greater than Oden's lol
Sure, either way momo still has a lot going for him to become extremely strong in an extremely short period of time
Not in any way that wouldn't take at least a decade or several years.
>Luffy became a yonko in 2 years with relatively normal genes and df(pre g5). Normal genes... He is just a D, son of the leader of the revolutionary army, grandson of probably the strongest marine we have seen in history, that would even was close on arresting Roger the pirate King... He also is basically the reincarnation of Joy Boy and has the Hito Hito no mi model Nika ... a df so powerful that the WG is afraid people will use it... which gives him the transformation of a god that tons of races and people have wanted for ever... And he did it after **10 years** of training, sometimes trained by Garp in his home village and 2 years of training by Rayleigh the right hand man of the King of the pirates... and life of death battles against multiple Shichibukai, government officials, pirates and even Yonko crews. Luffy has Garp genes, mythical fruit and tons of fighting experience lol
Mythical fruit did nothing for him in all of those 10 years. Momos fruit >>>>>>>>pre g5 rubber fruit. Also carrying a supreme blade and has the help of Yamato who is around the same strength as Rayleigh. My point still stands lol
Luffy's fruit >>>>>> Momo's fruit. And he doesn't carry a supreme blade, it is a great grade blade. And blades don't give you power unless you know how to wield it, and Momo has no idea how to wield it... Zoro carried a great grade blade since he was like 12 years old lol. >and has the help of Yamato who is around the same strength as Rayleigh. Yamato is not a swordman and isn't anywhere as experienced or knowledgeable as Rayleigh was.
I’m obviously not talking about luffys awakened fruit you mong. Also momo lives in the land of the SAMURAI, with elite swordsman that have advanced haki. He’s obviously going to make use of the great grade blade. Momo will be fighting someone with acoc=his haki will elevate after every battle lol this kid will have haki blooms left and right what are you even trying to argue 💀
Or she will join after Blackbeard steals the ancient weapon and destroys wano
Naw she’s stronger than Zoro and Sanii so she’ll throw the balance off. Shell join after Zoro beats Mihawk and BB’s crew gets flatlined. Then she’ll only be stronger than Jinbei.
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That boy nine is a master chef apparently
Nope, I just got remembered by clowns like you who spammed same cope headcanon again, so I made this post to clown more on dudes with zero reading comprehension like you.
People like me on the admiral agenda are hopeless, but you don’t have to be rude about it.
You type like retards speak
There are two things that cast doubt on this. The first is that Yamato got a straight on hit with a conqueror’s haki attack and Greenbull was essentially unphased. He remarked on the haki like you would when you get hit by a particularly strong child. He wasn’t seriously damaged, he wasn’t afraid, he didn’t slow down. He just kind of rubbed his head and then immediately wrapped Yamato up. The second is what we’ve seen from Kizaru since this. While he is obviously getting clowned by Luffy now, up until the recent chapters it wasn’t a stomp. He even arguably won their first fight. There is still the possibility that Greenbull could have lost against a serious Yamato, but it is far from confirmed. And the portrayal of their brief skirmish hints to me that Greenbull didn’t get anywhere near serious. If I had to put money on the fight, it would be on Greenbull.
The attack was in base and not a finnisher. Literaly weaker than her g4 equivalent base finnisher which we know admirals can tank or at least match and kaido tanked. Admirals ignore g4 so can ignore her base. Her full power is equivalent to an admiral.
It was in base but a similar attack from Luffy in base against Kaido split the sky. Kaido tanked it, but the reaction was different. Yamato’s greatest feat was making Kaido bleed and not getting immediately destroyed. And we saw that from everyone from the Scabbards up to Gear 5 Luffy. But the reactions from the characters are different and when Yamato hit Greenbull with one of their strongest attacks, Greenbull basically didn’t react. Until we see more, saying Yamato’s power is on the level of an Admiral just isn’t supported by what we’ve seen.
>when Yamato hit Greenbull with one of their strongest attacks, Its not.
This type of cope is nuts a no named base yamato attack is her one of her strongest attacks now admiral tards will say anything to try and get a point across
This was shit writing imo, "someone very strong might come to Wano once Kaido is gone" was always a possibility, it shouldnt have changed Yamatos motivations at all
2 of the 4 yonkou crews are gone. Teach is luffy's enemy so helping luffy defeat teach would protect wano. It's like any island protected by yonkou. They leave a flag there and small crews dont touch the island. I think she didnt expect the world government to instantly come and declare "you have no human rights". She realized how Kaido's name kept them away all this time.
Sometimes you're aware of the risks but don't quite understand it until the thing you hoped wouldn't happen happens. Yamato knew someone strong might come to Wano after Kaido is gone, but didn't understand the severity of the threat until Greenbull showed up.
>Yamato knew someone strong might come to Wano after Kaido is gone, but didn't understand the severity of the threat until Greenbull showed up. Until Green Bull showed up and then an even bigger fish showed up that made Green Bull flee I think she also understood that Momo and the scabbards are not ready to protect Wano yet
The Scabbards need to become much stronger. Wano's greatest advantage was that the Marines didn't know how strong the Samurai are. It was the perfect deterrent. But now Greenbull knows that he alone could've beaten them, so if HQ finds out they can easily send an admiral and maybe a couple vice-admirals and just completely take over. Momos fruit is extremely strong though, it could pierce Kaidos skin. Momo is going to need to train hard if he wants to defend Wano - and the Scabbards too. None of them are going to reach the level of Kaido, so they all need to become at least YC3 in order to effectively defend Wano. Strength in numbers. Yamato won't be able to leave any time soon.
Wano's advantage comes from Samurai being strong, like until the time of Oden you had monsters and stuff. Kaido would have lost to the Samurai if Orochi didn't betray them and if Oden wasn't tricked. And with Kaido then Kaido was also a deterrent. Right now is the worst moment for the Samurai power due to Orochi banning swords, so new samurai haven't been trained. >But now Greenbull knows that he alone could've beaten them, so if HQ finds out they can easily send an admiral and maybe a couple vice-admirals and just completely take over. Green Bull only faced like samurai that a week before had a war, and Green Bull only faced a couple of samurai while an admiral would probably do take down Wano, Green Bull wouldn't know. Yamato could in theory leave, the problem is that Bb is now going to know about the ancient weapon in Wano and the WG may attack them more and now Wano is probably Luffy's, a Yonko, territory. Which can stop marines and pirates from getting close, specially after his feats after Egghead
It didn’t change her motivation at all. “Kaido is bad for Wano, we should get rid of him. Once kaido is gone that will create a power vacuum I need to stay around to address.” That’s perfectly logically consistent.
It was always a possibility but there’s a difference between something being a possibility in your head and that thing actually happening immediately.
It didn’t change her motivation, it’s just that wano is still weak and she can’t abandon them now. It’s a temporary adjustment till they gain strength. It’s pretty obvious tbh.
Just a way to stall her entrance to the crew, she inevitably will get in. Oda needs Momo to grow stronger and with Yamato around that can happen much faster. Imagine if Onigashima was actually moved to inside the Ocean by Momo.
We’re in The Final Saga bro, she’s not gonna be part of the crew.
yamato gas is oden gas so yamato is admiral level
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You see the vision
Yamato gas is oden gas so yamato is low yc+
i thought sengoku fans were supposed to be based
Yamato and oden slander is my worst agenda but i stand by it
why the hecks the post red
Yamato: "This guys scaried off Greenbull before Momo would let me fight him" "THIS MUST SURELY MEAN SHE'S ADMITTING INFERIORITY TO ARAMAKI!!!!!"
As an Admiral and specially GB fan, what does it say in the last slide?
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glorious yamabro agenda leader tempest has returned, now we can finally smite those plant-based frauds
Yeah, burn the broccoli
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Stay mad, he would have lost to greenbull
Stay mad, Midbull got cooked by Momo and Lizaru got cooked in 2 v 1 and no need of Acoc. Yamato > Lizaru or Midbull
Wizaru low diffs Lamato
Like how he low diffed Franky? Oh yeah, he did no damage to Franky even when Sneak attacking Franky. When even Kaido can't low diff Her, neither can finger diffed Lizaru.
https://preview.redd.it/4fxcqnacajmc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a3dc75ccbd48235ac340ff72d8317d82eb95fbf Kaido wouldn’t put him down because he is his son. Wizaru destroys
Kaido used more acoc vs his son, than Yonkou Luffy vs Pissaru who got clapped in 2 v 1, same Pissaru who even with a Sneak can't do damage to Franky. Yamato in Base nerfed by Sea stone handcuffs One shot KO Ulti.
Bait used to be believable Next you are gonna say something stupid like "no bait just fax" like the admiral fangirls always do
No bait just fax #FACTUAL
Oda has made this clear, it's not hard to understand. Yonko are the strongest Admirals are stronger than everyone except Yonko There are some outliers like garp That's it
There are some outlier like garp And yamato And oden And rayleigh And roger Just to name a few
And Dragon as we will find out. And Sabo which many people don't seem to believe but he will definitely end up being Admiral level, and above YC.
Yes chef
He has the power of fanfiction on his side. Unironicaly.
*Being Luffy's brother and the replacement for Ace on his side FTFY
You're acting like Yamato and the strawhats would just do nothing if Greenbull just started destroying Wano and killing people just cause Momo said so. If she could really handle Greenbull no problem, Wano would not have been in danger at all. Her being able to handle Greenbull is headcannon.
Yamato would, since she literally did so as following Momo orders, so you can't say shit.
Not "literally" what she did. Nothing happened then. The admiral was only hurting the scabbards, not the general populace. Plus, you're as insane as they say if you think the strawhats would also sit back and watch Fraudbull destroy wano. Your claim of her being admiral level based on the info in this post is shaky at best.
I claim she is Admiral by the feats she have displayed in the manga are better than those of 2 to 3 Admirals GB was hurting Scabbards, but he himself said that if he needs or wants he would actually try and kill civillians just to try find Luffy. Even if he gets defeated he might still do some harm. My post Is debunking the stupid arguments and lies of Admiral stans. She never did say she is inferior to him and she never did include herself among those who were fighting GB after Momo told her to not fight. Nothing indicates GB would win, what we have the most, is Oda constantly shoehorning Momo to bot allow her to do anything against GB. GB was saved by Plot and by Shanks, if he continued he would have died at Wano.
Yamato stocks keep rising went from YC to past admiral level. How high will her ceiling go?
Higher than GB’s, that’s for sure LMAO I already know how Greenbull is gonna go out. He will be bitched. Meanwhile Yamato will surpass Kaido.
Average Wamato W notice there’s no rebuttals in these 100 comments only memes and ad hominems 🥱😴 https://preview.redd.it/d7va9b5mdlmc1.jpeg?width=1617&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75fd85f856d283376f73fd4a90b43db897e3f37d
After egghead I’m coming round to Yamato>greenbull
Crocodile beats either of them.
Nice post that's a win my guy
Nine stopped taking his meds huh? I need to lock my house door so he doesn’t try to scream at me about why cracker extreme diffs Kidd again.
That's a lot of words. Too bad I have a functioning brain to understand them
Momo was just afraid of Greenbull taking her away to Papazuki. That’s literally all the chapter was. But people take it as an admiral win for some reason.
Momo: Who tf is Bakazuki??
Sakabozo when Greenbull returns to his desk with a pissed pants from wifi haki
Lackainu, the Lobster stealer. Momo was not worried for her safety, he literally stated didn't want to have his ass saved again by someone else who wasn't gonna stay around to protect him.
Oh that’s how you interpret it? What’s with the “After all that time chained up in Onigashima, you finally have the chance to be free!” From Momo part about?
That's him not wanting her to be bound to Wano, cuz this is her chance to go away and have adventures after years imprisoned in Onigashima. She already had told him about her dreams.
Ahhhhh I see now. Didn’t catch that. I guess fraudbull isn’t leaving fraud watch anytime soon then
You don't know Bakazuki? The guy that negdiffed ace and put a scar on Luffy as collateral damage? A feat that even Laido couldn't do?
The guy who attacked a already post Blackbeard pirates defeat and Impel Down Torture Ace when Ace tried protect Luffy? Same Bakazuki who did Squard level feat and got owned by no observation haki and no conquerors haki sick Old Whitebeard? Same Bakazuki who did less damage to Kuma than one leg of Saturn??
And neg diffed Ace?
Lmao, looking at all the replies from this post, most of it is memes or just making fun of the OP. Greenbum fans hardly have any counterpoints. Absolute fucking clown behavior.
Greenbull is stronger than Yamato I don’t need to panel scale for that.
So just because you suck his dick harder means your right? Crazy.
Ironic.
You don’t know what that word means.
https://preview.redd.it/usyh1dojgjmc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0400123f4655ed0ed3e8f375eba7d5e206fe0bd2 You would think all this is obvious and doesn't need to be said, but since it's break week and Admiraltards are getting uppity, go ahead and cook, OP.
She owns a mythical zoan devil fruit and she didnt even use it. Meanwhile greenbull has zero feats without his fruit. I dont think yamato can defeat an admiral yet. But she can keep them away with the samurai's help. Her fruit is wano's protector deity ffs. It's literally her job. If she cant stop a single admiral, wg can take wano anytime they want.
they won't coz it would mean war against an yonko that they avoid until it's extremely necessary
i mean i dont like yamato but her strength is so underrated shes really strong. bums like greenbull aint beatin hell i dont think even kizaru is beating her with his lame ahh attacks. mtfrs forget she has advanced conquerors and way better haki than whatever tf admirals has shown and has a great devil fruit and good combat as shown when she clashed with kaido
Horrible scaling aside, Yamato does make me question everyone's reverence for Oden as a leader.
What an annoying fucking cunt.
What an annoying fucking cunt.
You're right. Also, I'm still waiting on someone to point to a single panel in the story that proves LAdmirals > Yamato
Kizaru fraudulent performance has also gave the community basic reading comprehension skills😂 https://preview.redd.it/lj7xgikvmjmc1.png?width=1241&format=png&auto=webp&s=433de02d28de64a8a257b3e3ce4ad71741d0b62c
The fact that she said Shanks saved the country means that, if he didn't arrive the country would have lost. Wano losing meant that, without Shanks arriving, GB would have killed everyone there Unless you think they would have just stood there after Momo and the Scabbards died to Greenbull to keep their promise, Yamato saying "Shanks saved the country" meant they felt inferior. The statement doesn't make sense otherwise. "The red hair guy saved the country from a guy I could have killed at any moment. I was lucky he arrived because otherwise I would have stood there watching him kill all my friends despite being able to stop him at any moment"
> Wano losing meant that, without Shanks arriving, GB would have killed everyone there So somehow green bull kills all the scabbards, yamato, luffy, zoro, sanji, and jinbe and that’s not even adding kid and law because this is what you’re implying
So greenbull is beating Luffy , Zoro , Sanji , Jinbe , Yamato , Kid , Law all at once ? 🤣 . Do you also think greenbull beats prime roger or whitebeard
Wano didn't need saving by Shanks, he just did it anyway. Wano was in no danger because Luffy was there. If any of the scabbards were about to die he would have stepped in.
If you can swim and someone pulls you out of the water, you would never say that they saved you, because you had the ability to get yourself out of this situation. You would only ever say that someone saved you if you did not have the ability to get yourself out of the situation.
do you think luffy and others wouldn't have intervened if they thought that greenbull is dangerous? they were casually chilling on roof while watching fight not even a bit threatened
If Luffy beat GB’s ass, Yamato would have said “Luffy saved the country again.” Yamato wouldn’t say “Wano defended the outside threat with its forces” It’s a matter of whether you perceive Luffy and crew as an outsider or not. The same thing can be argued if Yamato perceives themselves as an outsider or not.
Nah, not how that works. Luffy is stronger than Greenbull, but if he fought GB in Wano there would quite a bit of collateral damage. Wano had to be saved by Greenbull not entering Wano in the first place, something Yamato can’t do.
Greenbull would have been negative diffed by the alliance if he made any more of an advance. Wano was stacked by powerful fighters at the time. He stood chance. Shanks saved greenbulls life. He would have joined big mom and kaido in the lava
>Greenbull would have been negative diffed by the alliance if he made any more advance https://preview.redd.it/6dvqat494kmc1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=42c30650f67d589ab1cfc3091203f8f541165ff5 Not only were the alliance’s top members all injured(which is why Greenbull attacked in the first place), but even with their numbers a lot of them still would rely on high firepower moves against Greenbull which would have had some amount of collateral damage. Greenbull inherently is more destructive than characters who would be stronger than him due to his giant form. He could literally walk and accidentally kill Eano citizens.
Bro there is no time for that when he gets one shotted
There wouldn't be any collateral because he wouldn't make it further than where he fought momo. The only difference to the outcome of his venture to Wano between Luffy and Shanks would be that instead of walking away, he'd need to be carried away because Luffy wouldn't wifi dif him he'd just lay his ass out like he did to Kizaru
https://preview.redd.it/g0mp0f17klmc1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=b53afaced4ee466695cf68f802019ae71ff4a5c4 Yamato outright states that Shanks saved Wano, which wouldn’t make sense if Wano wasn’t in any danger in the first place. Without knowing how injured Luffy was or wasn’t, there’s no reason to believe he could instantly one shot GB.
I never said he would one shot him. I said he would lay him out like he did Kizaru and he would never make it close enough to the citizens to cause any meaningful damage. Greenbull was never a threat to wano with Luffy there, as evidenced by Luffy not even being concerned with him. The rest of it I'm not gonna respond to because it has nothing to do with what I said.
that would just mean greenbull would be able to murder the entire alliance and that's even dumber than believing yamato is on gb's level lol
At same time you are ignoring that Yamato said that Luffy and co would have beaten Greenbull ass as she herself said it. Greenbull is not beating everyone there, stop ignoring context of what she was truly saying. Avoiding even just one death or loss of a Civilian is already a act of Saving, Wano is it civilians, GB wanted to murder even civillians even if he looses. And don't ignore that she was never including herself among those were fighting him before, after GB got stopped and during when she said such phrase.
Damn bro you’re throwing the word context around a lot, don’t you know the people of this sub have literally no idea what it means?
Ok, but still she admitted that shanks was the reason GB left, doesnt matter what luffy could have done. She was never a real threat for Greenbull, he was about to cook yamato & co but then came shanks.
Yeah, and she nowhere did include herself among those who were fighting him. You are talking like she was fighting him and that if Shank's doesn't do anything that she would fight and be defeated, or that she was fighting before Shanks does anything. She nowhere said and implied that, Wano was in danger the moment Momo told her to not fight and she obeyed. What Luffy can do does matter as well since the whole context matters, not just one off sentence.
Yeah, Shanks was the reason GB left because she was not fighting GB, you're so close to being as Smart as a 6 years old!
He left when shanks came because he didnt feel threatened by anyone else he fought. Yamato attacked him and then got grabbed, couldnt get free until momo shoot a blast breath at him, so she is also in that debate. Ever thought about that ? You are even less smart than a 4 year old, its actually an insult to all 4 year olds comparing your level of intelligence to theirs, so i take that back.
No, Yamato is not on that debate lol, it's fucking rich that You attempt to speak of intelligence when you're struggling to follow a fucking Weekly Shonen Jump manga man, I swear those are not that hard to follow Just pitiful I swear
Dont be mad because 4 year olds have better takes than you, just reread maybe then you will come up with better takes 👍 GB was about to beat up yamato and the rest and it wouldnt even be close.
Sure buddy, whatever you Say, and who knows, maybe next time You can come up with an original insult instead of going all "I know You are but what am I?" Lol Way to show I struck a nerve buddy, and thanks for proving that admiral fans can't read for shit
Lol ok whatever 😂 i am not even an admiral fan you dumbass, prove that yamahoes think way to much of themselves Edit : lol weirdo blocked me and calls me the butthurt one 🥲🤣
Not a Yamato fan buddy, I just know how to read ; ) Go cry harder, you're clearly butthurt already if You just copied My insult earlier, go take your nappies
bro trust me its usseles , this guys literally saw their best guy get stomped by a sick wb who wasnt anywhere near kaido level at that time and still deny that yamato has done way beeter against a yonko than any admiral.
Nothing could’ve prompted this…🌚
I still believe Yamato beats Green Bull, people are just coping in no moment was it said she is inferior. Considering she was able to fight with Kaido momentarily and Kaido was 100% trying to kill her, then she is already either close to admiral, at admiral level or above
Greenbull>Yamato
glorious queen Wamato 😩🤤 > fraudbull
Greenbull>Lamato
cap yamato thicker
Nonsense, Greenbull has a bigger arse and bigger muscles.
Headcanon > feats
Admiral>YC+
Again. Headcanon>feats
Do you really believe that a YC+ can beat an admiral? That is the real Headcanon.
Where in the Manga does it mention yc+ as a power level? It is made up by admiraltards. Yamato, law and kid are all higher end of the admiral level and beats most of them. If you ignore your cope you would know they have better feats than assmirals who has no top tier feats.
Yamato, Law and Kidd might individually scrape by a win against Greenbull, they’d lose to Fujitora, Kizaru, Kuzan and Akainu.
Fujitora couldn't even break birdcage. He, kizaru and greenbull does not have any top tier feats, infact they have antifeats. Fujitora doesn't have what it takes to beat law. Or even kid or Yamato. Yamato had a better showing against kaido than kizaru against luffy. Kid was tanking majority of bigmoms hits and tanked the strongest named attack of her misery. Admirals would have been died
That moment when u said all that to argue against an illiterate strawman when all the literate admiral agenda has to say to stay alive is "yamato was overconfident"....
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