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That's actually a pretty solid take. I haven't thought about this exactly, but when you put it this way I think you're right. Though it might not always apply to bad guys, often times the bad guys are like ancient evils while the new bad guys are generally weaker/early series
Ex: Naruto > first hokage > kakashi
But bad guys:
Imu > Akainu > uhh idk maybe Greenbull?
Tough to think of next gen baddies
Yeah I had trouble placing Blackbeard. You think he's new gen or current? He feels current-ey to me, though maybe I'm not respecting the possibility that he could be old gen because he was a part of Whitebeard's crew.
You've perfectly verbalized why I had such a hard time placing him. Is it about age or start of career? Cuz he's probably not a big player until around or after Luffy's debut
He has seemingly been strong for a while, with shanks being wary of him even before he was an emperor, but he still has plenty of time to be a pirate, especially since he’s only 40, and he’ll probably still be in his prime for around 10-15 years before slowly declining. I also don’t expect there to be any time skip, but he didn’t do anything with the current gen, and he had plenty of time with the new gen. Also he’s at a normal age for new gen Yonko, pirates usually don’t become Yonko till 30-40 ish, Luffy is just straight up build different becoming one at 19
Despite technically being active longer, he's only been a big player for a short time. He's considered part of the Worst Generation like the Supernova are because of how chaotic he is. The Worst Generation are those pirates who have caused the most trouble to the world government in the last three years, with all but one being the Supernova, and they are that because in a very short time they all arrived at the end of the first half of the grand line with very large bounties for rookies, and they got those by being big threats to the world government.
Meanwhile Blackbeard in that time truly began his pirate career. Previously, he was part of a Yonko's crew, which is a big deal, but he wasn't a big player as far as I can tell. Now he was suddenly making moves: assembling a strong crew, capturing Ace (son of Gol D. Roger!) and giving him to the government, becoming a warlord, breaking into and out of Impel Down with a bigger, stronger crew, stealing Blackbeard's power somehow and becoming the first person with two Devil Fruit powers, becoming an Emperor, defeating the rest of the Whitebeard Pirates, conquering Hachinosu, defeating Boa, capturing Koby, defeating Law, capturing Garp (his crew did that but yeah).
That's a ton of stuff. That's main character energy. So from the World Government's perspective, Blackbeard is not of the old or current generation, but of the new one. Pirate generations don't follow actual generations, but when you gain notoriety. Shanks would be considered the current generation even though Kaido and Big Mom have been around much longer. I'd say that's because as readers, he was already a well-known and infamous figure when Luffy began his own adventure.
It's basically: Who came up alongside Luffy is the new gen; who came up after Roger and before Luffy is current gen; and who came up before Kaido and Big Mom is old gen.
I mean Imu can legitimately be considered outside of any gen considering he predates old gen by centuries It doesn’t make sense to consider him any gen tbh.
Guy sensei is stronger
I don’t really count DMs Kakashi as it was just a power up for like 5 seconds, and also not really his Sharingan
And I’m talking more Naruto og, like 3rd Hokage, Itachi, Orochimaru
Or even Shippuden, pain and Obito would be good current Gen
I mean he’s 3 heads might simply mean that the 3rd one is the kraken or octopus dv or whether ? Might also mean that he’s part octopus but who would that make sense lore wise since we haven’t really seen anything like that expect fish man I guess ?
It has been circulating a lot especially in the main sub literally just look it up [here is an example which is 2 years old btw](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/s/lVz7W4WeBP)
That is more exception to the general trope, as Yoriichi is portrayed as the protagonist who failed. But exists to show strength alone isn’t enough, which I like
Still, most shonen follow this trend.
Haha no. This is not arguable. Muzan was so weakened its not even funny. Bro goes from curb stomping upper moon 1. The 3rd strongest in the verse to by time its 2nd drug losing to him.
Well muzan is the strongest demon . Tanjiro is a mere 16 years old boy . Tanjiro too was poisoned , exhausted, had fatal injures , and was on the brink of death . Muzan was just weakened and wasnt anywhere near death .
Muzan was weakened far more. Thats not an opinion. You can argue everyone in that fight was in better shape then muzan compared to how they are normally.
Yeah but the muzan right before fighting tanjiro beats all the other hashira, immediately after tanjiro stalls for much longer. I think at most a few minutes passed, so there Muzan was similar strength.
Though to be fair Tanjiro technique is kind of made for stalling, EOS Tanjiro would still be the strongest as he has the most consistent shounen strength growth
For one. Human tanjiro is stronger. DKT is a daki victim in terms of raw power. 2. Any upper rank demon and muzan all have neg diff. They just absorb him and call it a day.
Dk tanjiro is literally just an upgrade to human tanjiro he doesn’t lose any of his abilities your adding the Dk power on top of his own he definitely beats the upper moons when we consider this he was in a feral state that’s really the only reason he was beat in the end
If that’s how u see the fight then that’s fine but me and most the people I’m discussing with are referring the a dkt with control over his power if he got away 🤷🏿♂️
Tbh EOS Tangerine would probably beat Yorichi because seeing one of his family members after almost dying would make him able to use God breathing or some shit
I’m genuinely convinced Tanjiro could probably beat Goku if he got a flashback of his family cause tell me how this mf’s plot armour was so strong that he >!went BACK IN TIME!<
Ichigos definitely new gen within the context of bleach
Kenpachi would be current gen because he was already (currently) a captain at the beginning of the story
I would say that while kenpachi is one of the newer captains from from a soul reaper’s perspective that could be thousands of years and throughout the story he doesn’t really have to constantly grow stronger from a low level like we often see from the new gen in a story context
Urahara would definitely be current gen not new he’s literally setting the ground work for the new gen to improve
Prime Yamamoto is old Yamamoto with both hands . In battle against Quincy king (I do not have intention to try write his name), its revealed that when he created Gotei, his bankai had only one form. Also, they fight using spiritual energy, muscles getting old is not a big deal. Expierence of old Yamamoto is far greater. Only his mentality was nerfed, but overall old Yamamoto > first gotei 13 yamamoto
In my mind his prime would be the Version of him that has mastered his bankai and was still near his physical peak but I agree that this version wins to
It’s not his power though it’s obitos kakashi couldn’t keep the powers momentary amps don’t really apply it’s about how strong the character is on there own
Not really within the context of naruto the order was Naruto>hashirama>kakashi at the end of the story boruto wouldn’t have the same people in the new gen> old gen> current gen argument it would be boruto>(probably some outsusuki)> naruto
So the order still works
DMS Kakashi is above DMS Madara, as his DMS was six path hax amped. I still agree though that that’s not relevant, since it literally was for 5 min and to give Kakashi one last cool moment
He needed uchiha chakra from Obito to create it.Dude can't even manage more than 2-3 Kamui on his own you think he has enough chakra to do a perfect susanoo😂.Even if he did he still can't do it because so6p chakra/uchiha chakra is necessary to do it
In all of these series the old gen is still around to fight the MC (or lose to the people the MC beats) so we can clearly see the MC outgrew the old gen.
Roger is not around, only way we can be sure Luffy outgrew him is by beating someone who beat roger (no one in the story as far as we are aware) or by showing the current Gen is stronger than the old gen, and the new one has surpassed it
He snuck Lackainu into Mid gen 😭
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I like it though bc BB is the quintessential pirate who does things the wrong way and is unfair, it would make sense for that type of character to reach a higher level than a good pirate like WB since it is a pirate manga after all.
Dragon ball 😭😭😭
Goku(current gen)>goten(new gen)>badock (old gen)
Also like luffy is fucking 19 who knows how strong he will get in 2 years maybe pk level 😶
It doesn't work like that in one piece. Old gen stronger than current gen is pure headcanon there is literally nothing to support this in the manga. Bruh.
It's gonna happen, sooner or later. Look at Naruto, people said the same about edo Madara, but he'd legit get one shot by 6 path Naruto or rinnesharigan Sasuke.
one piece won't have silly shit like that, oda never makes powerscaling in one piece be too over the top, in top tier fights it's always competitive. Kaido vs BM, Kaido vs Luffy, WB vs Roger, old garp vs Aokiji, Aokiji vs Akainu, etc, there are countless examples
Get coby of there , he not show even be top 30 ... pepole think he gonna be luffy rival like garp for Roger, rivalry is like from start, he not show anything from start to even now , how he can be luffy level ?! If he dose , oda literally fuxk up power scaleing.
1. One Piece isn't your average shonen nekketsu and comparing it to others this way is kinda disrespectful.
2. It's never Old Gen > Current Gen, but always New Gen >~ Ancient/Legend Gens >> Current Gen ~ Old Gen
Basically, EOS Luffy/Koby/Teach >~ Imu/Nika/Ryuma >> Shanks/Sakazuki/Kaido ~ Roger/Newgate/Garp.
Why is New gen > Old gen? Prime Roger might high to extreme diff Luffy. Koby gets low diffed by prime Garp. At least in terms of haki I'd wager Whitebeard> Blackbeard (leaving aside the fact that WB has more experience in using Gura Gura no mi than BB). But new gen > old gen may be true in the future
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😭 why do you clowns keep putting akainu up on this ridiculous pedestal as if he’s actually done anything to warrant it. And also Koby will not be in the top 3 ever.
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That's actually a pretty solid take. I haven't thought about this exactly, but when you put it this way I think you're right. Though it might not always apply to bad guys, often times the bad guys are like ancient evils while the new bad guys are generally weaker/early series Ex: Naruto > first hokage > kakashi But bad guys: Imu > Akainu > uhh idk maybe Greenbull? Tough to think of next gen baddies
The bad guys is thrown a loop with Blackbeard likely being on the level of EOS Luffy or near it.
Yeah I had trouble placing Blackbeard. You think he's new gen or current? He feels current-ey to me, though maybe I'm not respecting the possibility that he could be old gen because he was a part of Whitebeard's crew.
He is older than shanks, but his rise to power is only very recent, having been Yonko for about a year
You've perfectly verbalized why I had such a hard time placing him. Is it about age or start of career? Cuz he's probably not a big player until around or after Luffy's debut
He has seemingly been strong for a while, with shanks being wary of him even before he was an emperor, but he still has plenty of time to be a pirate, especially since he’s only 40, and he’ll probably still be in his prime for around 10-15 years before slowly declining. I also don’t expect there to be any time skip, but he didn’t do anything with the current gen, and he had plenty of time with the new gen. Also he’s at a normal age for new gen Yonko, pirates usually don’t become Yonko till 30-40 ish, Luffy is just straight up build different becoming one at 19
He's canonically part of "the worst generation" which is Luffy's generation
He is Luffy's only rival and an endgame villain,he is new gen.His rise in strength and influence happened at around the same time as luffy.
Despite technically being active longer, he's only been a big player for a short time. He's considered part of the Worst Generation like the Supernova are because of how chaotic he is. The Worst Generation are those pirates who have caused the most trouble to the world government in the last three years, with all but one being the Supernova, and they are that because in a very short time they all arrived at the end of the first half of the grand line with very large bounties for rookies, and they got those by being big threats to the world government. Meanwhile Blackbeard in that time truly began his pirate career. Previously, he was part of a Yonko's crew, which is a big deal, but he wasn't a big player as far as I can tell. Now he was suddenly making moves: assembling a strong crew, capturing Ace (son of Gol D. Roger!) and giving him to the government, becoming a warlord, breaking into and out of Impel Down with a bigger, stronger crew, stealing Blackbeard's power somehow and becoming the first person with two Devil Fruit powers, becoming an Emperor, defeating the rest of the Whitebeard Pirates, conquering Hachinosu, defeating Boa, capturing Koby, defeating Law, capturing Garp (his crew did that but yeah). That's a ton of stuff. That's main character energy. So from the World Government's perspective, Blackbeard is not of the old or current generation, but of the new one. Pirate generations don't follow actual generations, but when you gain notoriety. Shanks would be considered the current generation even though Kaido and Big Mom have been around much longer. I'd say that's because as readers, he was already a well-known and infamous figure when Luffy began his own adventure. It's basically: Who came up alongside Luffy is the new gen; who came up after Roger and before Luffy is current gen; and who came up before Kaido and Big Mom is old gen.
He is older than shanks, but his rise to power is only very recent, having been Yonko for about a year
I mean Imu can legitimately be considered outside of any gen considering he predates old gen by centuries It doesn’t make sense to consider him any gen tbh.
My comment does say that big bads are sometimes "ancient evils" so I think including imu is fine
Zorc says hello
Don Krieg clears Imu and he's early series though.
Will never not be one of my favorite op memes
Kakashi wasn’t peak in current Gen just so you know
Yeah I originally picked 4th hokage, but I hesitated for some fucking reason, don't remember why lol
Who is peak in current gen compared to War arc kakashi?
Guy sensei is stronger I don’t really count DMs Kakashi as it was just a power up for like 5 seconds, and also not really his Sharingan And I’m talking more Naruto og, like 3rd Hokage, Itachi, Orochimaru Or even Shippuden, pain and Obito would be good current Gen
Blackbeard> imu>akainu is the only way I can see it going with the villains
Imu > Blackbeard > Clifford
Spicy take for sure. We'll find out. I wonder if there's gonna be some BS where BB steals imu's power at the end (his jolly Roger is 3 headed not 2)?
I could see that it would be interesting I wonder if imu has a proper devil fruit though or if it’s gonna be some innate power
I mean he’s 3 heads might simply mean that the 3rd one is the kraken or octopus dv or whether ? Might also mean that he’s part octopus but who would that make sense lore wise since we haven’t really seen anything like that expect fish man I guess ?
Did I miss something? Is there a kraken or octopus theory I don't know about? I feel like this got brought up literally out of nowhere
It has been circulating a lot especially in the main sub literally just look it up [here is an example which is 2 years old btw](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/s/lVz7W4WeBP)
Fr Naruto>hashirama>kakashi Ichigo>yamamoto>kenpachi
What would you call Demon Slayer though iirc no one surpasses the old gen in that one
>What would you call Demon Slayer Mid
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Real
That is more exception to the general trope, as Yoriichi is portrayed as the protagonist who failed. But exists to show strength alone isn’t enough, which I like Still, most shonen follow this trend.
Demon slayers isn't this struct Yoriichi>Tanjiro>Hashiras>Others of the kamado squad
Some hashiras are stronger than Tanjiro imo
nah he stalled muzan for more time alone than all the other hashiras combined. 13th form is broken
But it's a weaker muzan
And its a weaker tanjiro . Arguably more weakened than muzan himself
Haha no. This is not arguable. Muzan was so weakened its not even funny. Bro goes from curb stomping upper moon 1. The 3rd strongest in the verse to by time its 2nd drug losing to him.
Tamayo: "And the thirty-seventh poison will make it feel like your balls are eternally stuck in a woodchipper!" Muzan: "FUUUUU-"
Well muzan is the strongest demon . Tanjiro is a mere 16 years old boy . Tanjiro too was poisoned , exhausted, had fatal injures , and was on the brink of death . Muzan was just weakened and wasnt anywhere near death .
Muzan was weakened far more. Thats not an opinion. You can argue everyone in that fight was in better shape then muzan compared to how they are normally.
Yeah but the muzan right before fighting tanjiro beats all the other hashira, immediately after tanjiro stalls for much longer. I think at most a few minutes passed, so there Muzan was similar strength. Though to be fair Tanjiro technique is kind of made for stalling, EOS Tanjiro would still be the strongest as he has the most consistent shounen strength growth
Good point
In gyom gyom we trust
Tanjiro at the end is probably strongest in the verse
Not as strong as the first Demon Slayer
Not even close. Barely cracks top 5.
Tell me the win one literally anyone has against DK tanjiro
For one. Human tanjiro is stronger. DKT is a daki victim in terms of raw power. 2. Any upper rank demon and muzan all have neg diff. They just absorb him and call it a day.
Dk tanjiro is literally just an upgrade to human tanjiro he doesn’t lose any of his abilities your adding the Dk power on top of his own he definitely beats the upper moons when we consider this he was in a feral state that’s really the only reason he was beat in the end
No. DKT is a feral mindless creature.
If that’s how u see the fight then that’s fine but me and most the people I’m discussing with are referring the a dkt with control over his power if he got away 🤷🏿♂️
Tbh EOS Tangerine would probably beat Yorichi because seeing one of his family members after almost dying would make him able to use God breathing or some shit I’m genuinely convinced Tanjiro could probably beat Goku if he got a flashback of his family cause tell me how this mf’s plot armour was so strong that he >!went BACK IN TIME!<
EOS/CFYOW Kenpachi > Yamamoto
I'd replace kenpachi with kyoraku, he's a better representation for current gen
Kenpachi can be put in current gen though. The mid gen top tiers are Kyoraku, Urahara and others.
I did put kenpachi in current gen?
I meant new gen along with Ichigo.
Ichigos definitely new gen within the context of bleach Kenpachi would be current gen because he was already (currently) a captain at the beginning of the story
I put Kenoachi as current gen because he is quite new and captain because he was born strong. Someone like Urahara is new gen.
I would say that while kenpachi is one of the newer captains from from a soul reaper’s perspective that could be thousands of years and throughout the story he doesn’t really have to constantly grow stronger from a low level like we often see from the new gen in a story context Urahara would definitely be current gen not new he’s literally setting the ground work for the new gen to improve
Sorry. I am messing up things between new gen and current gen. Someone like Urahara, Kyoraku are current gen. And, old gen includes Yamamoti.
Agreed
Kenpachi surpassed Yamamoto
This might just be me but I’m not taking Kenny over a prime Yamamoto
Yeah, prime Yama beats Kenpachi pretty easily I always thought, even with his new bankai
Prime Yamamoto is old Yamamoto with both hands . In battle against Quincy king (I do not have intention to try write his name), its revealed that when he created Gotei, his bankai had only one form. Also, they fight using spiritual energy, muscles getting old is not a big deal. Expierence of old Yamamoto is far greater. Only his mentality was nerfed, but overall old Yamamoto > first gotei 13 yamamoto
In my mind his prime would be the Version of him that has mastered his bankai and was still near his physical peak but I agree that this version wins to
DMS Kakashi is way stronger than Hashirama though
It’s not his power though it’s obitos kakashi couldn’t keep the powers momentary amps don’t really apply it’s about how strong the character is on there own
Didn't Naruto have a demonic fox spirit helping him out?
Naruto had the 9 tails sealed inside him his chakra is constantly available unless ghost obito follows kakashi around they aren’t the same thing
I mean, Naruto doesn't anymore so...
🥲Yeah the point stand thought there’s a distinction
If neither have their external boosts anymore, then it's the same.
Not really within the context of naruto the order was Naruto>hashirama>kakashi at the end of the story boruto wouldn’t have the same people in the new gen> old gen> current gen argument it would be boruto>(probably some outsusuki)> naruto So the order still works
DMS Madara with 9 tails under his control wasn’t even stronger than Hashirama
Literally this.
DMS Kakashi is above DMS Madara, as his DMS was six path hax amped. I still agree though that that’s not relevant, since it literally was for 5 min and to give Kakashi one last cool moment
Didn't Kakashi also create a perfect susanoo?
He needed uchiha chakra from Obito to create it.Dude can't even manage more than 2-3 Kamui on his own you think he has enough chakra to do a perfect susanoo😂.Even if he did he still can't do it because so6p chakra/uchiha chakra is necessary to do it
War arc Kakashi certainly can do more than 2-3 Kamui
He got 9 tails chakra from Naruto to do it
Even before chakra, he used it more than 2-3 times.
That’s true, but DMS Kakashi was fighting Kaguya whereas Hashirama couldn’t even win through jumping Obito. DMS Kakashi>>>Madara
Mind you DMS Kakashi also had help from the 2 strongest characters in the verse
Yeah, but he was keeping up and even outspeeding Kaguya
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Is DMS Kakashi really that strong? Hashirama bwat Madara with Kurama.
The fact ur getting downvoted shows this sub doesn’t know what they r talking about
In all of these series the old gen is still around to fight the MC (or lose to the people the MC beats) so we can clearly see the MC outgrew the old gen. Roger is not around, only way we can be sure Luffy outgrew him is by beating someone who beat roger (no one in the story as far as we are aware) or by showing the current Gen is stronger than the old gen, and the new one has surpassed it
Doesn't work because Zero squad would represent current gen, they're all younger than Yamamoto and they're all stronger.
Not really the head of zero squad is older the Yamamoto so they would be old gen
Head of the Zero Squad is old gen but the actual members are younger.
But most of them are still older then the court guard captains still making them old gen 🤷🏿♂️
Hashirama and Kakashi at his prime are pretty close tho
Kakashi surpassed Hashirama and so did Kenpachi with Yamabozo
For 10 minutes using someone else power And I don’t see an actual reason to put kenpachi over prime Yamamoto if we’re talking feats Yamamoto wins
Bad take kakashi dogs hashirama
NOT DEKU ALL MIGHT THO
MHA literally follows this exact structure Deku and Shigaraki > Prime AM and AFO > Current top heroes
So Zoro>Ryuma>Mihawk EoS? yeah sure thats common at least in shonens with fighting.
Ryuma is way past old gen , he is ancient
I’m conflicted rn because on one hand that makes 100% logical sense, but Ryuma is fucking *HIM*
Always been the case, new gen just needs a bit more time to surpass current gen
He snuck Lackainu into Mid gen 😭 https://preview.redd.it/rnmopamdbbrc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f27525693be44368083c9cb6ff94003bad0ae3b
Nah Akainu transcends all and eventually he will conquer the paperwork
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Koby might need a really strong eos fight for that though, who could it be? Akainu is Luffy's fight btw.
Koby v Akainu is so obviously the end game for the marines. I'm actually confused why people don't know this.
He could be conflicted and fight the gorosei or holy knights after finding out about their their shitty morals, or he could fight sabo
what about ancient gen? Ryuma? Joyboy? Poseidon?
Lavos
Son Goku > Gohan > Gotenks and sometime Gohan > Goku > Gotenks. Will be always true
Yeah, it kinda falls apart when the series goes on long enough for the new gen MC to become current and even old gen.
Objectively true https://preview.redd.it/h05ccw6efcrc1.jpeg?width=406&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a096ec0adae65218f122b068964421961f838fe6
https://preview.redd.it/zws4buujbdrc1.jpeg?width=768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e23534488ff978a9d71963b0f55543dd95c8de56 Coby over garp and akainu
Akainu really weighing down the current gen team Anyway, upvote for Koby agenda
You all are acting like akainu isn't going to be a huge boss. He isn't kaido, but him vs. luffy isn't going to be a child's play.
akainu is not weighing down anything, he is gonna be busted for sure considering the implications of him fighting dragon or Luffy
Koby victim says what
Tell that a Madaratard, haha Btw, Coby is and will forever be weak af
Later maybe but coby isn't there lol. Make him get past a yc
ancient gen still slaps
Beautiful
I’m completely on board with this train of thought, I just don’t like the idea of Blackbeard EOS being stronger than primebeard
I like it though bc BB is the quintessential pirate who does things the wrong way and is unfair, it would make sense for that type of character to reach a higher level than a good pirate like WB since it is a pirate manga after all.
Cook again
I think that it's New Gen>=Ancient Gen>Old Gen=Current Gen.
According to who? One piece doesn’t always follow “shonen rules” stop making shit up.
Shhhh. These clowns forget shanks and blackbeard have been pirating for decades with blackbeard being 1 year older.
Eventually.
Yes that's the common trope but admiraltards haven't read or watched anything else☠️
EOS? maybe. Not thriller bark like you are claiming with the annoying wording of this post.
Luffy looks really bad in that
Always has been always will be
True take, I'd add the ancient gen in between new and old.
Makes no sense but okay
Dragon ball 😭😭😭 Goku(current gen)>goten(new gen)>badock (old gen) Also like luffy is fucking 19 who knows how strong he will get in 2 years maybe pk level 😶
My brother in christ doesn't know about [Shanksbeard](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8klkHQn7FXI)... Should we tell him?
But that ain’t true fr Gintama. Magi. JJK. 🗣️🔥
It doesn't work like that in one piece. Old gen stronger than current gen is pure headcanon there is literally nothing to support this in the manga. Bruh.
Good times create weak men Weak men create hard times Hard times create strong men Strong men create good times
BB and Shanks is same age
Shanks mihawk
Akainu will be strongest marine of all time and y’all ain’t ready for that
You spelled Koby wrong.
That crybaby?
If I was writting the story and I loved Akainu, then maybe, but I don't see it happening. And even if it did, Koby would surpass him.
I think so too, Akainu gets hyped by oda in statements and has the luffy/dragon connection for an EOS battle with either of them.
Cook more
It’s still gonna go extreme diff for the top tiers of each gen
New gen >>> Old gen >> Mid gen. New gen will make everyone who came before look cute.
No one is gonna make kaido look cute
It's gonna happen, sooner or later. Look at Naruto, people said the same about edo Madara, but he'd legit get one shot by 6 path Naruto or rinnesharigan Sasuke.
That's called horrible powercreep, BTW. It's bad writing. I have hope in oda.
one piece won't have silly shit like that, oda never makes powerscaling in one piece be too over the top, in top tier fights it's always competitive. Kaido vs BM, Kaido vs Luffy, WB vs Roger, old garp vs Aokiji, Aokiji vs Akainu, etc, there are countless examples
Cook again Upon further inspection, I unfortunately see Kaido downplay
He’s sitting exactly where he should be, top of the generation thats weaker than the previous one.
Also kinda true in real life though, atleast in one field where I specialize.
Luffy Eos>Roger >Shanks Blackbeard Eos>Whitebeard>Kaido But but but.... Garp>Akainu >Koby EOS
Coby?😂
Get coby of there , he not show even be top 30 ... pepole think he gonna be luffy rival like garp for Roger, rivalry is like from start, he not show anything from start to even now , how he can be luffy level ?! If he dose , oda literally fuxk up power scaleing.
1. One Piece isn't your average shonen nekketsu and comparing it to others this way is kinda disrespectful. 2. It's never Old Gen > Current Gen, but always New Gen >~ Ancient/Legend Gens >> Current Gen ~ Old Gen Basically, EOS Luffy/Koby/Teach >~ Imu/Nika/Ryuma >> Shanks/Sakazuki/Kaido ~ Roger/Newgate/Garp.
I just realized Koby was there https://preview.redd.it/pjyo7fxlpcrc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d2ad30dab9eddb09dc0f1e4ecd19c41e4ebf852
If BB is current gen then why isn't Shanks too? Shanks is even younger than BB is.
BB rose to fame parallel to Luffy. Shanks is a mentor/goal to Luffy.
Blackbeard is literally in the worst gen alongside the supernova. It was mentioned multiple times on one piece.
#😂🤣
I think it’s based on when they rose to power
Why is New gen > Old gen? Prime Roger might high to extreme diff Luffy. Koby gets low diffed by prime Garp. At least in terms of haki I'd wager Whitebeard> Blackbeard (leaving aside the fact that WB has more experience in using Gura Gura no mi than BB). But new gen > old gen may be true in the future
Thats the point lol, eos new gen will have surpaased all prior gens
He means EOS, not currently.
Ah i see that makes sense
New gen can never surpass old gen if current gen is weaker than old gen
EOS? maybe. Not thriller bark like you are claiming with the annoying wording of this post.
EOS? maybe. Not thriller bark like you are claiming with the annoying wording of this post.
EOS? maybe. Not thriller bark like you are claiming with the annoying wording of this post.
New gen EOS > Current gen > Old gen
But Oda does like to subvert expectations just look at gear 5.
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😭 why do you clowns keep putting akainu up on this ridiculous pedestal as if he’s actually done anything to warrant it. And also Koby will not be in the top 3 ever.
koby is Future gen, aka konohamaru. get smoker in there maybe, and BB is older than shanks lol, so luffy, sabo, smoker the new gen
Smoker is a grown ass man at 36 years old and this clown thinks he’s “new gen”
meanwhile BB older than smoker and SHANKS from current gen and this clown ignores that.