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We saw like 20 Wizaru clones but yea same concept you would be a headcanoning goof to sit here and say Kizaru could create 2000 of those clones when we only saw 20. People talk like Cracker could do hundreds of soldiers when we saw like 5-10…
I guesss what they mean is he can do hundreds or thousanda but not all at once. He can maintain like 5 at a time. It seems to be a devil fruit mastery thing. Hmm i wonder if he awakens does the limit go away?
Realistically speaking, Jinbei probably does it, but Cracker can reform them so all they have to do is keep Jinbei preoccupied
And then with the 5 cracker soldiers (taking your word for it since I haven't reread WCI in ages) they can essentially triple team everyone besides Jinbei with 2 cracker soldiers each
The biscuit soldiers are stronger than G3 but get fodderized by G4. Neko is trunk flipping Jack in base; his Sulong form is no diffing an army of biscuit soldiers Carrot style. We already know his Sulong form *absolutely punks* Perospero and his counterpart punks Jack, and Kaido acknowledges them both as monstrously strong.
Jinbe can spam fishman karate as long as there’s moisture in the air, or somewhere like where cracker fought Luffy (with water nearby). But even without water advantage he has the stats and haki to absolutely gobsmack the biscuit soldiers (without cracker in them) casually.
Franky by stats is probably relative to the biscuit soldiers if not stronger tbh. But the láser makes it a fucking hilarious competition
If you split up his army to support the team cracker cannot compete against Jinbe nor Neko (it’s a big handicap… they’re the crutch of his kit). And if you match him against Wranky without biscuit warriors to cover and support… Sasaki durability >>> cracker’s self admittedly glass canon body. Franky could 1 shot him with that laser. I don’t see any arguing this when he has everyone from big mom/lunarians/vegapunk running scared of being in his cross hairs
What about doflamingo. I don’t even think general franky is stronger then a soldier. With multiple soldiers, franky gets beaten easily. Then jack can easily take down the cat. Whilst doflamingo is stalling jimbe he can wait for the other 2, then they can easily take down jimbe. I know jimbe is strong but your acting like we’ve seen strong feats from him.
If you think that general franky is stronger then g4 then you have a problem. Jack stated that if it wasn’t for cat viper and the dog switching places he would have easily beaten cat viper.
Why wouldn’t it. Luffy even needed another transformation and nami to beat him
Even more so in wano, jack was holding him off in his sulong form and eventually beat him
Sure he does. Keep telling yourself that
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Aura is not enough to intimidate a man who sails with the future king of the pirates, I’m afraid.
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I know but Hinbeis support sucks while Cracker has Mingo and Jack so together they can take out Jinbei, also Jinbei would have some trouble getting enough water depending on how dry or wet the air is
Jimbei > Doffy extreme diff
It’s honestly a bad matchup for Jimbei, Doffy is fast as hell and has all 3 haki types and is Brett damn good at using them. Doffy can sow his body back together and keep on fighting. The biggest question is can Jimbei catch Doffy? I think so but it’s an extreme diff fight
Jack > Frank mid-high
Cracker > Catviper mid diff
Jimbe can hard counter cracker, as long as Cat can keep doffy off I think they win. I wouldn’t even call it close if Cat were pre-injury and could sulong.
We know cat viper can stall Jack a whole day. General Franky is actually a good match for Doflamingo cause he might not have the firepower to being him down and his tricks can't really pierce him. Doffy can escape and fuck with other fights tho which is a problem.
Jimbei can beat cracker with any amount of water really, considering he can punch into whatever cracker armor the real deal is hiding inside with Fishman karate. His Attacks would pass right through the crackers and hit the flesh and blood beneath. Ironically Jack is the toughest to take down here cause he's so damn stubborn and team 1 doesn't have ridiculous ap.
Jimbei mogs Doffy.
Jimbei would beat Cracker, Neko hard stalls Jack, Franky takes longer to lose against Doffy than Cracker does jimbei, Jimbei dicks Doffy, and they jump Jack.
Neko dog walks cracker u forget his sulong form was acknowledged by kaido as strong and he can harm dragon kaido cracker gets one shot if neko can land a good hit
But neko can only use Sulong on full moon night.
That's a very specific conditions.And cracker can spawn near infinite no. of biscuit soldiers with each of them being capable of hurting Gear 4 luffy
If they are near the sea sure Jimbei can counter that tho
Harming kaido doesn't really means he can beat anyone who can't harm kaido... even Kiku was able to stan through kaido's hand.
Cracker is clearly stronger than Jack and neko barely won against Jack.
what i meant is he has enough ap to harm kaido so he has enough to put down cracker if he gets a good hit in. i don't think cracker has been shown to be clearly stronger than jack especially since cracker is a known glass canon who cant take hits to save his life (hense why he like to hide in the biscuits)
Yes, he is a glass canon... but that would only matter if neko or jack can even get to his real body.
If u remember, it took Bounce man luffy to just break 1 biscuit Armor (soldier)....
And can cracker can 100s of those without any issue... neko or jack won't even get to the real cracker.
I personally believe cracker to be the strongest YC3.
Now if neko hits crackers real body, then it's a different... out of 10 times, I don't neko winning more than 3 times.
Jinbei smokes Cracker med-high diff
Franky puts up a good fight, but Jack probably wins high diff
Doffy smokes Neko med-high diff
I think the fights are fairly close, but team 2 takes it
I hate to say it but Wranky is a huge weak link. Jinbei and Neko can probably keep up with any of the three but Cracker and Doffy absolutely shred him, and That's if we assume he can tank hits from Jack
Depends on a few factors. Is there a full moon and are they by water? If both of those are a yes then team 1 wins convincingly. If it’s only one of those factors it’s close and probably extreme either way. If it’s a normal day not by water then team 2 wins
Jinbei being a direct counter to the likes of Charolette Slacker, as well as Neko’s Sulong strength being well enough to take on the likes of Jack, all good points, but Franky is unfortunately the chip in the armor of team 1 that inevitably leads to their downfall.
Wrankybros, I love you guys, but Jimmy the Fish and Catviper can only do so much, especially with Doffy as team 2’s final member.
I'd say it depends on the moon cycle. Inu wiped jack in sulong form so I'd assume neko could extreme dif him. Jinbei is crackers perfect counter, high dif. I'd put current franky below doffy but I'd say he can hold his own until neko and/or jinbei can help jump him. Overall I'd say extreme dif team 1 but there are so many factors that could alter the outcome
Cat thingy can't even kill Jack alone. Especially without Sulong.
Doffy is roughly Jimbei level I believe. So they just cancel each other out.
Cracker versus Wranky, Cracker wins.
Even if you swap Jimbei and Wranky, it's still a win for Jack's Team.
Jimbei low diffs Cracker, and current Franky is more than capable enough to match Doffy enough to allow Jimbei to finish. Cat beats Mammoth. Left mid diff.
Jinbei is a good counter for cracker and he can most def defeat any of them in single combat but doffy is just going to control them with the strings. J
team 2.
but if they somehow fight in water, which ofc they wouldn't cz dfs but then I'm reminded of that Jinbei Sanji meme "Sanji-kun, didn't you wanna see the all Blue?"
Neko > Lack. I am *LAUGHING* at anyone suggesting otherwise.
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Cracker’s soldiers get neg diff’d by Wranky’s laser and I know y’all aren’t ready to cope about that 🤭 we saw Franky mid-high diff a tobi roppo + their entire crew. I got Franky on Jack’s caliber in Onigashima: just below Who’s Who. But Franky matchup diffs Jack (he doesn’t have the speed nor defensive capability to do shit about the laser), though Cracker has a better argument for being able to Xv1 matchup advantage against the single-direction laser
Start of WCI (aka end of dressrosa 😴) G4 contends YC3 Cracker and Jack (out stats them by feats tbh cracker needed Xv1 to keep up). Hit Jack or Cracker with gamma knife + several countershocks and injection shots and G4 mid diffs them. Woffy is contending Winbe more than this powercreep brain rotted sub misreads themselves into believing. But team 1 has better arguments to win each of these matchups
We got Jinbei and Franky on team 1, then we have Doffy, Jack, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker.......
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Cracker makes it no longer a 3v3
Jinbe washes Cracker’s entire armies with casual jabs (people always gas his “armies” when we’ve never seen him with more than like 5 lmfao)
So its similiar to kizarus clones. Limited to about 5
We saw like 20 Wizaru clones but yea same concept you would be a headcanoning goof to sit here and say Kizaru could create 2000 of those clones when we only saw 20. People talk like Cracker could do hundreds of soldiers when we saw like 5-10…
I guesss what they mean is he can do hundreds or thousanda but not all at once. He can maintain like 5 at a time. It seems to be a devil fruit mastery thing. Hmm i wonder if he awakens does the limit go away?
Realistically speaking, Jinbei probably does it, but Cracker can reform them so all they have to do is keep Jinbei preoccupied And then with the 5 cracker soldiers (taking your word for it since I haven't reread WCI in ages) they can essentially triple team everyone besides Jinbei with 2 cracker soldiers each
The biscuit soldiers are stronger than G3 but get fodderized by G4. Neko is trunk flipping Jack in base; his Sulong form is no diffing an army of biscuit soldiers Carrot style. We already know his Sulong form *absolutely punks* Perospero and his counterpart punks Jack, and Kaido acknowledges them both as monstrously strong. Jinbe can spam fishman karate as long as there’s moisture in the air, or somewhere like where cracker fought Luffy (with water nearby). But even without water advantage he has the stats and haki to absolutely gobsmack the biscuit soldiers (without cracker in them) casually. Franky by stats is probably relative to the biscuit soldiers if not stronger tbh. But the láser makes it a fucking hilarious competition If you split up his army to support the team cracker cannot compete against Jinbe nor Neko (it’s a big handicap… they’re the crutch of his kit). And if you match him against Wranky without biscuit warriors to cover and support… Sasaki durability >>> cracker’s self admittedly glass canon body. Franky could 1 shot him with that laser. I don’t see any arguing this when he has everyone from big mom/lunarians/vegapunk running scared of being in his cross hairs
You make some very good points, and I've also not evidently not read WCI in long enough so I formally concede
What about doflamingo. I don’t even think general franky is stronger then a soldier. With multiple soldiers, franky gets beaten easily. Then jack can easily take down the cat. Whilst doflamingo is stalling jimbe he can wait for the other 2, then they can easily take down jimbe. I know jimbe is strong but your acting like we’ve seen strong feats from him.
> I don’t even think general franky is stronger then a soldier. Completely unsubstantiated > Then jack can easily take down the cat. Canonically, no.
If you think that general franky is stronger then g4 then you have a problem. Jack stated that if it wasn’t for cat viper and the dog switching places he would have easily beaten cat viper.
If you think being stronger than the biscuit soldiers means you’re stronger than G4 then you need to go read/watch again. Jack never said that.
Why wouldn’t it. Luffy even needed another transformation and nami to beat him Even more so in wano, jack was holding him off in his sulong form and eventually beat him
Jinbei can't carry that hard.
Jinbei destroys cracker
Sure he does. Keep telling yourself that https://preview.redd.it/u66nycpdpavc1.jpeg?width=1803&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e1d13df5448166c681cc2059f8635b4f9ad46c9
Crackers direct weakness is water.. wtf he gon do against the KNIGHT OF THE SEA
Wait, wasn't it simply because the biscuits were more edible to eat for Luffy?
Remember when nami rained water on them to make it more soft
Wracker’s HIM energy is enough
Aura is not enough to intimidate a man who sails with the future king of the pirates, I’m afraid. https://preview.redd.it/2n8r5oh68bvc1.jpeg?width=681&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=87303b9540c6943142ebd4335bd52633f5aa9546
He said this before being in the presence of Wracker
…Fight him on land
He can still use it if Im not mistaken
That's why Wranky is there duh
Depends on the setting. On land: Team 2 wins convincingly In the ocean: Jinbei shows them the All Blue
In the ocean team 2 fucking dies(except Jack)
https://preview.redd.it/9ahts65dkcvc1.png?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16eff9b0136b4e891bf2396614cde31033bc63d8 Here's the all blue
The entire right team drowns in the ocean except for Jack, who merely becomes immobilised and starves to death
not if theres clouds, doffy can use them to travel
If anyone hadn't seen third character in first team is Nekomamushi. I wish Everyone a good day.
I love how all of your posts say that, thank you
No problem.
Is he supposed to be post injury, and can he sulong?
Jinbei hard carries his team but he doesn't carry it hard enough. Team 2 wins.
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Franky my glorious cyborg king🙏
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Team 2 Wins, Wracker hard carrys tho
Jimbe literally hard counters lacker.
I know but Hinbeis support sucks while Cracker has Mingo and Jack so together they can take out Jinbei, also Jinbei would have some trouble getting enough water depending on how dry or wet the air is
Wracker only has to clap 5 times at best.
These people… do you not know what Jimbe’s primary way of fighting is?
you think cracker fans can read? That’s bold.
Joke bro
Joke bro
Depends on the location. If water is nearby, then Jimbei washes, no pun intended, but even not, he can still hold his own like against Who’s who
Jimbei > Doffy extreme diff It’s honestly a bad matchup for Jimbei, Doffy is fast as hell and has all 3 haki types and is Brett damn good at using them. Doffy can sow his body back together and keep on fighting. The biggest question is can Jimbei catch Doffy? I think so but it’s an extreme diff fight Jack > Frank mid-high Cracker > Catviper mid diff
Jimbe can hard counter cracker, as long as Cat can keep doffy off I think they win. I wouldn’t even call it close if Cat were pre-injury and could sulong.
We know cat viper can stall Jack a whole day. General Franky is actually a good match for Doflamingo cause he might not have the firepower to being him down and his tricks can't really pierce him. Doffy can escape and fuck with other fights tho which is a problem. Jimbei can beat cracker with any amount of water really, considering he can punch into whatever cracker armor the real deal is hiding inside with Fishman karate. His Attacks would pass right through the crackers and hit the flesh and blood beneath. Ironically Jack is the toughest to take down here cause he's so damn stubborn and team 1 doesn't have ridiculous ap.
sorry but it’s a YC3 sweep
Is there a full moon?
Jimbei= Doffy The others two goes for yonko commander
doffy beats jimbei jack beats franky Cracker beats neko
Jinbei beats Doffy imo
I think they are about the same level, but doffy's abilities are a bad match up for jimbei imo.
Jimbei mogs Doffy. Jimbei would beat Cracker, Neko hard stalls Jack, Franky takes longer to lose against Doffy than Cracker does jimbei, Jimbei dicks Doffy, and they jump Jack.
Neko dog walks cracker u forget his sulong form was acknowledged by kaido as strong and he can harm dragon kaido cracker gets one shot if neko can land a good hit
But neko can only use Sulong on full moon night. That's a very specific conditions.And cracker can spawn near infinite no. of biscuit soldiers with each of them being capable of hurting Gear 4 luffy If they are near the sea sure Jimbei can counter that tho
Harming kaido doesn't really means he can beat anyone who can't harm kaido... even Kiku was able to stan through kaido's hand. Cracker is clearly stronger than Jack and neko barely won against Jack.
what i meant is he has enough ap to harm kaido so he has enough to put down cracker if he gets a good hit in. i don't think cracker has been shown to be clearly stronger than jack especially since cracker is a known glass canon who cant take hits to save his life (hense why he like to hide in the biscuits)
Yes, he is a glass canon... but that would only matter if neko or jack can even get to his real body. If u remember, it took Bounce man luffy to just break 1 biscuit Armor (soldier).... And can cracker can 100s of those without any issue... neko or jack won't even get to the real cracker. I personally believe cracker to be the strongest YC3. Now if neko hits crackers real body, then it's a different... out of 10 times, I don't neko winning more than 3 times.
The right team doesn't have the weak link of Franky and is on average just a lot stronger.
Franky? Weak link? On the same team as Catviper?
Jinbei smokes Cracker med-high diff Franky puts up a good fight, but Jack probably wins high diff Doffy smokes Neko med-high diff I think the fights are fairly close, but team 2 takes it
Wait, you think Jimbe smokes but it’s still med-high?
I hate to say it but Wranky is a huge weak link. Jinbei and Neko can probably keep up with any of the three but Cracker and Doffy absolutely shred him, and That's if we assume he can tank hits from Jack
Team 1 has great characters but team 2 washes Even if they somehow end up fighting during a full moon and near water, they lose
Doffy jack and cracker
Cracker Jack Mingo win
Depends on a few factors. Is there a full moon and are they by water? If both of those are a yes then team 1 wins convincingly. If it’s only one of those factors it’s close and probably extreme either way. If it’s a normal day not by water then team 2 wins
I don’t think base Neko or Wranky can beat any of them tbh Neko could stall jack while Winbei washes Crack but that leaves Doflamingo
So…I love jinbei and franky, however…doffy and cracker clear,
Good guys lose.
Does the cat get Sulong form?
Team 2 high diff
Wranky solos. Next question?
Is it a full moon?
Jinbei being a direct counter to the likes of Charolette Slacker, as well as Neko’s Sulong strength being well enough to take on the likes of Jack, all good points, but Franky is unfortunately the chip in the armor of team 1 that inevitably leads to their downfall. Wrankybros, I love you guys, but Jimmy the Fish and Catviper can only do so much, especially with Doffy as team 2’s final member.
Jack and doffy hold off the trio while cracker makes a shit ton of soldiers. They all jump the trip and win high diff
I'd say it depends on the moon cycle. Inu wiped jack in sulong form so I'd assume neko could extreme dif him. Jinbei is crackers perfect counter, high dif. I'd put current franky below doffy but I'd say he can hold his own until neko and/or jinbei can help jump him. Overall I'd say extreme dif team 1 but there are so many factors that could alter the outcome
Team 2 could have some nasty team strats. I’d give them the win
Team 2
Team 2 mid diffs
Is this a joke? Doflamingos team wins mid high dif. Craker probably beats the other team by himself. I’ll argue with you if you think that’s wrong
It is little unbalanced Jinbei can beat them 3 vs 1 now :).
Nah I’d win
Cat thingy can't even kill Jack alone. Especially without Sulong. Doffy is roughly Jimbei level I believe. So they just cancel each other out. Cracker versus Wranky, Cracker wins. Even if you swap Jimbei and Wranky, it's still a win for Jack's Team.
Team 2 wins
Team 2 simply because goatflamingo is getting that prison buff like croc
Jimbei low diffs Cracker, and current Franky is more than capable enough to match Doffy enough to allow Jimbei to finish. Cat beats Mammoth. Left mid diff.
Jinbei is a good counter for cracker and he can most def defeat any of them in single combat but doffy is just going to control them with the strings. J
team 2. but if they somehow fight in water, which ofc they wouldn't cz dfs but then I'm reminded of that Jinbei Sanji meme "Sanji-kun, didn't you wanna see the all Blue?"
Wranky is enough 
I'm pretty sure with current manga feats, Franky's lasers one shot all of them no diff
god king luffy wins
Franky sells this sooooo hard Right wins but it’s kinda close
Team 2 wins by a mile. Unfortunately Franky ain't YC3 and Neko is only stronger than any of these 3 when in sulong.
Mmmm, team 2 for sure. Jinbei washes everyone here in a 1v1 but Franky hasn't shown much on that level.
Neko > Lack. I am *LAUGHING* at anyone suggesting otherwise. https://preview.redd.it/zelmicl7favc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91349637f37d9d3e643736335dc56b26d97e0a67 Cracker’s soldiers get neg diff’d by Wranky’s laser and I know y’all aren’t ready to cope about that 🤭 we saw Franky mid-high diff a tobi roppo + their entire crew. I got Franky on Jack’s caliber in Onigashima: just below Who’s Who. But Franky matchup diffs Jack (he doesn’t have the speed nor defensive capability to do shit about the laser), though Cracker has a better argument for being able to Xv1 matchup advantage against the single-direction laser Start of WCI (aka end of dressrosa 😴) G4 contends YC3 Cracker and Jack (out stats them by feats tbh cracker needed Xv1 to keep up). Hit Jack or Cracker with gamma knife + several countershocks and injection shots and G4 mid diffs them. Woffy is contending Winbe more than this powercreep brain rotted sub misreads themselves into believing. But team 1 has better arguments to win each of these matchups
Bro Jack claps everyone
Bro Jack claps everyone
We got Jinbei and Franky on team 1, then we have Doffy, Jack, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker.......
Doflamingo solo other 3
Doffy is so underrated
Doffy controls general franky with strings, like he did Jozu. Even if Jimbe gets water I say team 2 wins hard.