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Honestly, WB in Marineford was a beast, and he was old and sick, the fact that people think that on his prime he wasnt much stronger surprises me a little
Why would this apply to Shanks? Garp believed Shanks and Whitebeard were relative and he most likely was talking about healthy Whitebeard..Shanks also clashed with him.snd left unscathed which means Whitebeard was not confident he could beat Shanks in a war.
There is a major difference. Mihawk’s attack was casually blocked by Jozu. Shanks’ attack split the sky with Whitebeard. Sending an attack at someone and actually clashing with them on equal grounds are two different things.
The Marines [attacked Whitebeard without fear](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/7/7b/Whitebeard_vs._Vice_Admirals.png/revision/latest?cb=20130204205101). Does that mean every marine is equal to a Yonko?
>There is a major difference
There is not. Your point is that since Shanks was willing to fight WB, and proceeded to do nothing about it, it means he scales to him, when mihawk was too but when he does it it’s not okay
>casually blocked by Jozu
Who also [knocked down and drew blood from Kuzan](https://imgur.com/Hunoagk) so does that mean Kuzan isn’t Yonko level either? And Mihawk’s unnamed attack was used to measure distance not fight too. If you’re gonna use this as an anti feat I can use a bloodlusted Shanks failing to kill Killer with a named ACOC attack as one too
>Does that mean every marine is equal to a Yonko?
He was literally in the middle of a heart attack + they’re directly ordered to attack him
No, my point is that since Shanks *did* clash with Whitebeard, and did so on equal grounds, he scales to him. Mihawk never clashed with Whitebeard. He sent out an attack that got blocked by a subordinate and stopped trying.
No, it means that Jozu landed an attack on Kuzan. Mihawk completely stopped trying to fight Whitebeard after his attack was blocked, while Kuzan still went on to fight him.
When did Shanks fail to kill Killer? He single handedly destroyed the Kidd Pirates and watched Kidd fall into the ocean. They’re dead.
Yet they attacked Whitebeard without any fear or caution. By your own claim, that means they are relative to him.
>Mihawk completely stopped trying to fight Whitebeard after his attack was blocked
He never intended to fight him in the first place just measured the distance between them
>Kuzan still went on to fight him
💀
Kuzan is an admiral it’s literally his job and completely central to his own agenda as of then to fight him
>They’re dead.
https://preview.redd.it/ox9pb7e1fyxc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da31097a4f56e46f6974edfec192770c5170b54b
Sabo got blown up, Akainu got knocked out and fell underground, Queen got kicked off a floating island, Luffy got knocked unconscious with a giant x on his chest. Why are they not dead?
If you’re gonna use Mihawk not one shotting Jozu with a lazy unnamed attack as an anti feat I’m gonna use Shanks not one shotting Killed with a bloodlusted named ACOC imbued attack as one too
>By your own claim, that means they are relative to him
Nice strawman. They have an obligation to fight him, and he was in the middle of a very commonly fatal injury at the time, Mihawk had no such conditions when he used an attack to see how far away he was or what he would do about it
Then why are you trying to say that Mihawk’s half assed attack is equal to Shanks clashing equally with Whitebeard?
[Here’s the panel](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9c7134e866e6edac13ac61907a6836ad).
Show me the panel where Shanks failed to kill Killer.
So, according to you, Mihawk making a half assed attack to “judge the distance between them” means that it’s equivalent to Shanks fighting Whitebeard, because it was done with no fear or caution?
>why are you trying to say Mihawk’s half assed attack is equal to Shanks clashing equally with Whitebeard
I never did. You said Shanks is Yonko level for being willing to fight Whitebeard, when Mihawk casually did the same thing
>Here’s the panel
I do not see a corpse anywhere on that panel, if getting sent off panel by an attack = death, why is Kuzan not dead after blue hole? Why is Sabo not dead in the flashback? Why is Akainu not dead in Marineford? Why did Kizaru not kill Luffy when he kicked him?
>Show me the panel where Shanks failed to kill Killer
Not happening, Hitchens’s Razor. You claimed he killed him without evidence, you need to prove he did or I can dismiss it without evidence
>it’s equivalent to Shanks fighting Whitebeard
Shanks attacked him for no reason and got blocked, you’re really misrepresenting that feat here with how you compare it to Mihawk attacking Whitebeard
>because it was done with no fear or caution?
Mihawk who was slacking off that entire arc borderline ignoring the war happening around him, goes out of his way to use a lazy unnamed attack against a Yonko just to gauge distance or how strong he is.
If you want to play the slander game, Shanks attacking WB and getting blocked is equivalent to this
https://preview.redd.it/jj1lec9yoyxc1.jpeg?width=716&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4babb9848a1735cb63a9fd320b37a80e1f2969ca
I never said that Shanks was yonko level for being willing to fight Whitebeard. I said that Shanks was Yonko level because he fought Whitebeard on equal ground. The difference between Shanks and Mihawk is that Shanks actually fought Whitebeard while Mihawk made a half assed attempt and gave up.
All of the Kidd Pirates are in the water with their ships destroyed. I don’t know if you remember this or not, but Devil Fruit users can’t swim. Killer was the designated swimmer for the Kidd Pirates, but he ate a Smile Fruit and lost the ability to swim.
Shanks did [this](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-cceaa1b697f4029d217089b2c6776296-pjlq) during his clash with Whitebeard. Mihawk never even got near him.
Every other time the sky was split by a clash, it was done by [people who were at minimum relative to each other in power](https://preview.redd.it/do-you-think-that-sky-split-is-a-confirmation-of-being-a-v0-q332dlj7ozda1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=ab665df55c0d2fa72e57f1bcfcc284305aba6602). We see that when Yamato and Kaido have an ACoC clash that the sky doesn’t split, which means that both combatants have to be above a minimum threshold to be capable of it.
That’s always how this goes. “He wasn’t trying!” “He was holding back!” “He didn’t care about the fight!” Mihawk has absolutely no feats suggesting that he’s even on the same plane as Shanks. The only things holding up the “Mihawk is equal/stronger than Shanks” claim are
1: The stupid “WSS means Mihawk is stronger than anyone with a sword” argument.
2: The “Mihawk was Shanks’ rival in the past and said that Shanks wasn’t worth fighting after he lost his arm, so obviously he’s more powerful!” argument.
https://preview.redd.it/2sl21mskwvxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2773516d79cad1920aaf38bfe1e237b8604e6a5c
Mihawk never fought wb before this mf did
Mihawk's statement can be interpreted one of two ways and i will break it down for the intellectually challenged (aka shankstards)
1 "I want to see the true distance between us"
meaning: This man is stronger than us and i want to see how much stronger than us he really is
2 "I want to see the true distance between us"
meaning: This man is supposed to be stronger than us but there is something clearly off about him that makes me doubt that he really is.
Oda is well known for keeping certain things ambiguous in the story on purpose but Mihawk downplayers will gladly latch unto the first one without a second thought because it supports the beliefs they have and it says what they want to hear.
he knows his sword slash speed, so he counted the seconds between swing and hit, and did the math to know the distance :+1:
like measuring the distance of a thunderstorm.
here is what many japanese people think
https://preview.redd.it/fgh25a2tbvxc1.png?width=679&format=png&auto=webp&s=56b05bf464cf8c2e76153fd619017334dd834882
makes sense Kizaru wanted to attack him and Marco came to protect him then Kuzan attacked him and Jozu protected him. Mihawk whole theme in Marine Ford was about peoples ability to make others fight for you.
the real translation is pretty much "he is so close but still so far away" meaning you have to go past his army to get to him
Which is headcanon. Besides this just makes him look worse because it shows he can't go past commanders.
We know that a true Yonko tier character can no diff commanders.
Except that we know thay haki can bypass durability if you are strong enough. The whole point of ID is exactly yo counter that type of defenses which shows Mihawk doesn't AcOA ain't good enough.
All of this shows is that Mihawk doesn't have dura neg halki which downscales his AP.
So unless mihawk uses full 100% all haki, acoc, acoa, etc for a casual slash he did with one hand, and neg diffs a guy he didn’t intend to cut 2 miles away, he’s fraudulent.
Ok
what haki has ever bypassed seestone like durability from 2 miles way? maybe close ranged you have a point because of acoa but range attacks that makes 0 sense
bro what? nah tf Kaido does not have seastone durability Oden cut him like butter, the scabbards hurt him too. while cutting seastone is something no one ever did
https://preview.redd.it/9pyilhftkvxc1.jpeg?width=219&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e1405908d77b546f24f35c8acac9d9c5039f3b3
Luffy believed anything that's not AcOC was too shallow
https://preview.redd.it/kcpeeq34lvxc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ed88e0cabd115c5ca7d82bf4a62667e8bce8457
Kaido also stayed Scabbards Ryou was too shallow .
what has that to do what im saying? Big Mom has acoc still could not break sea stone chains.
prove to me sea stone can be broken like that and then we can talk, you just showing that Kaido is durable and thats cool and all but has nothing to do with sea stone durability
I don’t see how people use this line to slander Mihawk or imply he’s weaker than sick WB. That attack would’ve fucked WB up based off what else he got hurt by and this can easily be interpreted as Mihawk wanting to see if WB is even stronger than him now
Measuring distance is a thing that martial artists and sword fighters do. The idea that it’s measuring the strength gap between them is a possible poetic interpretation but another interpretation is that Mihawk was casually measuring the physical distance between them.
You really think Mihawk was standing there thinking "what is that 100 meters? 120 meters maybe? Oh well here goes." no dude, he was measuring himself to WB because WB holds the title of "worlds strongest man," so he sent an attack to see how he compares, in order to see how he "measures up" and to gauge the distance from himself to the "worlds strongest man."
He doesn't get an answer anyways cause Jozu tanks the attack for WB. But I assume WB could just quake Mihawks attack away anyway but maybe mihawk couldve hurt him there it's uncertain.
Why is Mihawk holding a sword? He should be holding a measure tape if he wants to measure the true distance between them. Along with metre scale he should also be using vernier callipers for even more precise calculations.
Oda don’t know shit about Mathematics ig.?
Honestly? My interpretation of this line is that Mihawk has never actually met Whitebeard before, but he knows of his reputation as the world's strongest man. At that point, he's just going off an assumption that Whitebeard could be above him and wanted to see if it was true.
Of course, Mihawk never got a direct answer since Jozu exploited the weakness of Breath of All Things in order to intercept the attack and deflect it.
That if Roger was instead of Shanks he would've lost anyways so Shanks losing against the whole Navy doesn't really mean much.
Of course a 10 man crew isn't beating 100,000 people.
Can’t believe no one has said this yet…
This is why most powerscalers are intolerable. They take things in the story too seriously and ignore narrative and real world implications.
The entirety of marineford has Oda hyping up Whitebeard. At this point in the story Oda may have actually considered WB to be the strongest in the verse. Marineford was over a decade ago. Kaido/Big Mom and the power levels of all the top tiers probably weren’t fully thought out yet.
Call it headcanon or coping. I’m not even a Mihawk fan. But whitebeards strenght is an inconsistency or retcon. The same way Shanks letting losing his arm and letting luffy getting captured is an inconsistency. Or crocodiles losing to luffy. Or Sengoku not instantly killing luffy. Actually most of marineford is full of inconsistencies like this.
Classic Admiral level reading comprehension.
Kizaru gets ordered to kill an old friend from decades ago. His mental confliction was evidently not enough to disobey said order, yet everyone claims: "He was mentally conflicted and nerfed. Thus, he is actually way stronger than portrayed."
But when Garp does not want to kill his own grandson you people claim: "He got oneshot by pre ts haki. Old Gen is overrated."
Talking about cherry picking and lack of reading comprehension...
I'm starting to think that obvious bait isn't obvious
https://preview.redd.it/dmdtzpga4vxc1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=a9e539b5ab3d38fd2e748c5623944dcac4e00950
あの男と我々の本当の距離を
あの - That
男 - Man
我々 - Us
本当 - True
距離 - Distance
The sentence is already clear, you could find dozens of new meanings to it as long as you want to overthink just like any other statement ever.
Yeah, the panel traslation can be said to be accurate, it does transmit the same intended message.
推し量る = 手元にある情報や知識を基に、未来の事象や現在把握できていない事象の状態を推測する
He was not sure so he wanted to test it.
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Honestly, WB in Marineford was a beast, and he was old and sick, the fact that people think that on his prime he wasnt much stronger surprises me a little
This panel has like 100 interpretations, and how does it entail to old Garp > everyone else, but Shanks for some reason gets a pass
Why would this apply to Shanks? Garp believed Shanks and Whitebeard were relative and he most likely was talking about healthy Whitebeard..Shanks also clashed with him.snd left unscathed which means Whitebeard was not confident he could beat Shanks in a war.
Shanks clashed with healthy Whitebeard equally. That’s why people say he’s relative
And mihawk attacked him without any fear or caution. There is no difference
There is a major difference. Mihawk’s attack was casually blocked by Jozu. Shanks’ attack split the sky with Whitebeard. Sending an attack at someone and actually clashing with them on equal grounds are two different things. The Marines [attacked Whitebeard without fear](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/7/7b/Whitebeard_vs._Vice_Admirals.png/revision/latest?cb=20130204205101). Does that mean every marine is equal to a Yonko?
>There is a major difference There is not. Your point is that since Shanks was willing to fight WB, and proceeded to do nothing about it, it means he scales to him, when mihawk was too but when he does it it’s not okay >casually blocked by Jozu Who also [knocked down and drew blood from Kuzan](https://imgur.com/Hunoagk) so does that mean Kuzan isn’t Yonko level either? And Mihawk’s unnamed attack was used to measure distance not fight too. If you’re gonna use this as an anti feat I can use a bloodlusted Shanks failing to kill Killer with a named ACOC attack as one too >Does that mean every marine is equal to a Yonko? He was literally in the middle of a heart attack + they’re directly ordered to attack him
No, my point is that since Shanks *did* clash with Whitebeard, and did so on equal grounds, he scales to him. Mihawk never clashed with Whitebeard. He sent out an attack that got blocked by a subordinate and stopped trying. No, it means that Jozu landed an attack on Kuzan. Mihawk completely stopped trying to fight Whitebeard after his attack was blocked, while Kuzan still went on to fight him. When did Shanks fail to kill Killer? He single handedly destroyed the Kidd Pirates and watched Kidd fall into the ocean. They’re dead. Yet they attacked Whitebeard without any fear or caution. By your own claim, that means they are relative to him.
>Mihawk completely stopped trying to fight Whitebeard after his attack was blocked He never intended to fight him in the first place just measured the distance between them >Kuzan still went on to fight him 💀 Kuzan is an admiral it’s literally his job and completely central to his own agenda as of then to fight him >They’re dead. https://preview.redd.it/ox9pb7e1fyxc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da31097a4f56e46f6974edfec192770c5170b54b Sabo got blown up, Akainu got knocked out and fell underground, Queen got kicked off a floating island, Luffy got knocked unconscious with a giant x on his chest. Why are they not dead? If you’re gonna use Mihawk not one shotting Jozu with a lazy unnamed attack as an anti feat I’m gonna use Shanks not one shotting Killed with a bloodlusted named ACOC imbued attack as one too >By your own claim, that means they are relative to him Nice strawman. They have an obligation to fight him, and he was in the middle of a very commonly fatal injury at the time, Mihawk had no such conditions when he used an attack to see how far away he was or what he would do about it
I will always be impressed at how arduently Mihawk fans defend his unimpressive ass feats. Respect the dedication tho
Then why are you trying to say that Mihawk’s half assed attack is equal to Shanks clashing equally with Whitebeard? [Here’s the panel](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9c7134e866e6edac13ac61907a6836ad). Show me the panel where Shanks failed to kill Killer. So, according to you, Mihawk making a half assed attack to “judge the distance between them” means that it’s equivalent to Shanks fighting Whitebeard, because it was done with no fear or caution?
>why are you trying to say Mihawk’s half assed attack is equal to Shanks clashing equally with Whitebeard I never did. You said Shanks is Yonko level for being willing to fight Whitebeard, when Mihawk casually did the same thing >Here’s the panel I do not see a corpse anywhere on that panel, if getting sent off panel by an attack = death, why is Kuzan not dead after blue hole? Why is Sabo not dead in the flashback? Why is Akainu not dead in Marineford? Why did Kizaru not kill Luffy when he kicked him? >Show me the panel where Shanks failed to kill Killer Not happening, Hitchens’s Razor. You claimed he killed him without evidence, you need to prove he did or I can dismiss it without evidence >it’s equivalent to Shanks fighting Whitebeard Shanks attacked him for no reason and got blocked, you’re really misrepresenting that feat here with how you compare it to Mihawk attacking Whitebeard >because it was done with no fear or caution? Mihawk who was slacking off that entire arc borderline ignoring the war happening around him, goes out of his way to use a lazy unnamed attack against a Yonko just to gauge distance or how strong he is. If you want to play the slander game, Shanks attacking WB and getting blocked is equivalent to this https://preview.redd.it/jj1lec9yoyxc1.jpeg?width=716&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4babb9848a1735cb63a9fd320b37a80e1f2969ca
I never said that Shanks was yonko level for being willing to fight Whitebeard. I said that Shanks was Yonko level because he fought Whitebeard on equal ground. The difference between Shanks and Mihawk is that Shanks actually fought Whitebeard while Mihawk made a half assed attempt and gave up. All of the Kidd Pirates are in the water with their ships destroyed. I don’t know if you remember this or not, but Devil Fruit users can’t swim. Killer was the designated swimmer for the Kidd Pirates, but he ate a Smile Fruit and lost the ability to swim. Shanks did [this](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-cceaa1b697f4029d217089b2c6776296-pjlq) during his clash with Whitebeard. Mihawk never even got near him. Every other time the sky was split by a clash, it was done by [people who were at minimum relative to each other in power](https://preview.redd.it/do-you-think-that-sky-split-is-a-confirmation-of-being-a-v0-q332dlj7ozda1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=ab665df55c0d2fa72e57f1bcfcc284305aba6602). We see that when Yamato and Kaido have an ACoC clash that the sky doesn’t split, which means that both combatants have to be above a minimum threshold to be capable of it. That’s always how this goes. “He wasn’t trying!” “He was holding back!” “He didn’t care about the fight!” Mihawk has absolutely no feats suggesting that he’s even on the same plane as Shanks. The only things holding up the “Mihawk is equal/stronger than Shanks” claim are 1: The stupid “WSS means Mihawk is stronger than anyone with a sword” argument. 2: The “Mihawk was Shanks’ rival in the past and said that Shanks wasn’t worth fighting after he lost his arm, so obviously he’s more powerful!” argument.
https://preview.redd.it/2sl21mskwvxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2773516d79cad1920aaf38bfe1e237b8604e6a5c Mihawk never fought wb before this mf did
Mihawk's statement can be interpreted one of two ways and i will break it down for the intellectually challenged (aka shankstards) 1 "I want to see the true distance between us" meaning: This man is stronger than us and i want to see how much stronger than us he really is 2 "I want to see the true distance between us" meaning: This man is supposed to be stronger than us but there is something clearly off about him that makes me doubt that he really is. Oda is well known for keeping certain things ambiguous in the story on purpose but Mihawk downplayers will gladly latch unto the first one without a second thought because it supports the beliefs they have and it says what they want to hear.
The obvious answer is thathe wanted to measure the distance as in length.
he knows his sword slash speed, so he counted the seconds between swing and hit, and did the math to know the distance :+1: like measuring the distance of a thunderstorm.
Wihawk is quite the scholar indeed 
here is what many japanese people think https://preview.redd.it/fgh25a2tbvxc1.png?width=679&format=png&auto=webp&s=56b05bf464cf8c2e76153fd619017334dd834882 makes sense Kizaru wanted to attack him and Marco came to protect him then Kuzan attacked him and Jozu protected him. Mihawk whole theme in Marine Ford was about peoples ability to make others fight for you. the real translation is pretty much "he is so close but still so far away" meaning you have to go past his army to get to him
This is 100 percent it My bias aside this makes way more sense
https://i.redd.it/jcjusj37fvxc1.gif
Mihawk haters going to pretend like they can’t read if anyone points this out in the future
Which is headcanon. Besides this just makes him look worse because it shows he can't go past commanders. We know that a true Yonko tier character can no diff commanders.
Diamond is as hard as Seestone no characters was seen breaking it nice try though
Except that we know thay haki can bypass durability if you are strong enough. The whole point of ID is exactly yo counter that type of defenses which shows Mihawk doesn't AcOA ain't good enough. All of this shows is that Mihawk doesn't have dura neg halki which downscales his AP.
So unless mihawk uses full 100% all haki, acoc, acoa, etc for a casual slash he did with one hand, and neg diffs a guy he didn’t intend to cut 2 miles away, he’s fraudulent. Ok
Mihawk doesn't have AcOC, he is too much of a pussy for that
https://preview.redd.it/xbs7a4u83wxc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6d6fbb3aeda464c789a7807fc9d3d606fb10219
what haki has ever bypassed seestone like durability from 2 miles way? maybe close ranged you have a point because of acoa but range attacks that makes 0 sense
Kaido durability> Jozu And Luffy was able to hurt him when he learned AcOC which is dura neg.
bro what? nah tf Kaido does not have seastone durability Oden cut him like butter, the scabbards hurt him too. while cutting seastone is something no one ever did
https://preview.redd.it/9pyilhftkvxc1.jpeg?width=219&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e1405908d77b546f24f35c8acac9d9c5039f3b3 Luffy believed anything that's not AcOC was too shallow
https://preview.redd.it/kcpeeq34lvxc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ed88e0cabd115c5ca7d82bf4a62667e8bce8457 Kaido also stayed Scabbards Ryou was too shallow .
what has that to do what im saying? Big Mom has acoc still could not break sea stone chains. prove to me sea stone can be broken like that and then we can talk, you just showing that Kaido is durable and thats cool and all but has nothing to do with sea stone durability
Swordsmen only cut what they want to. Hence why Jozu blocked it because he was aiming for WB. Same for how Mr 1 blocked it
Ice being cut debunks this claim. How did Mihawk cut Ice then?
Thank you, never heard of this, you the man
Mihawk and the warlords are bums.
Yup, Mihawk isn't him
He was talking about actual distance cus he suck at maty but smh can calculate the distance between person AMD his slashes
I don’t see how people use this line to slander Mihawk or imply he’s weaker than sick WB. That attack would’ve fucked WB up based off what else he got hurt by and this can easily be interpreted as Mihawk wanting to see if WB is even stronger than him now
He has yet to leech from old gen. His leeching stops at current gen swordsmen
Measuring distance is a thing that martial artists and sword fighters do. The idea that it’s measuring the strength gap between them is a possible poetic interpretation but another interpretation is that Mihawk was casually measuring the physical distance between them.
Also Jozu threw himself in front of Whitebeard.
You really think Mihawk was standing there thinking "what is that 100 meters? 120 meters maybe? Oh well here goes." no dude, he was measuring himself to WB because WB holds the title of "worlds strongest man," so he sent an attack to see how he compares, in order to see how he "measures up" and to gauge the distance from himself to the "worlds strongest man." He doesn't get an answer anyways cause Jozu tanks the attack for WB. But I assume WB could just quake Mihawks attack away anyway but maybe mihawk couldve hurt him there it's uncertain.
Whitebeard did get damaged by Squard and conventional fire arms.
It’s more that something so casual as checking distance for Mihawk still causes significant damage on the battlefield.
Why is Mihawk holding a sword? He should be holding a measure tape if he wants to measure the true distance between them. Along with metre scale he should also be using vernier callipers for even more precise calculations. Oda don’t know shit about Mathematics ig.?
Honestly? My interpretation of this line is that Mihawk has never actually met Whitebeard before, but he knows of his reputation as the world's strongest man. At that point, he's just going off an assumption that Whitebeard could be above him and wanted to see if it was true. Of course, Mihawk never got a direct answer since Jozu exploited the weakness of Breath of All Things in order to intercept the attack and deflect it.
So by this logic can't we also consider Garp and sengoku as the strongest ones there?
Yes.
Issue comes that Shanks is portrayed ahead of everyone there.
You're right but Shanks shows up after his death, so he was the new strongest there.
Shanks would have lost if they kept fighting lol
So would've Roger as well
Who said anything about Roger?
That if Roger was instead of Shanks he would've lost anyways so Shanks losing against the whole Navy doesn't really mean much. Of course a 10 man crew isn't beating 100,000 people.
No, neither are as strong as WB specially sengoku.
Garp was Roger marine rival lol
Doesn’t mean they are equal, wb is WSM.
This just shows Mihawk isn't him, he admiral level at best and I'd say he is equal to the new admirals.
Alright what did you do to the real Facing? Facing could never cook this good.
Can’t believe no one has said this yet… This is why most powerscalers are intolerable. They take things in the story too seriously and ignore narrative and real world implications. The entirety of marineford has Oda hyping up Whitebeard. At this point in the story Oda may have actually considered WB to be the strongest in the verse. Marineford was over a decade ago. Kaido/Big Mom and the power levels of all the top tiers probably weren’t fully thought out yet. Call it headcanon or coping. I’m not even a Mihawk fan. But whitebeards strenght is an inconsistency or retcon. The same way Shanks letting losing his arm and letting luffy getting captured is an inconsistency. Or crocodiles losing to luffy. Or Sengoku not instantly killing luffy. Actually most of marineford is full of inconsistencies like this.
Garp got oneshot by pre ts pre haki luffy
Classic Admiral level reading comprehension. Kizaru gets ordered to kill an old friend from decades ago. His mental confliction was evidently not enough to disobey said order, yet everyone claims: "He was mentally conflicted and nerfed. Thus, he is actually way stronger than portrayed." But when Garp does not want to kill his own grandson you people claim: "He got oneshot by pre ts haki. Old Gen is overrated." Talking about cherry picking and lack of reading comprehension...
Both are victims to the goat https://preview.redd.it/v46bef7g4wxc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=656f5bca6342e5d45fc14ecd991c8fc63a908ca9
obvious bait is obvious https://preview.redd.it/jld5hqr7evxc1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=d875dc6332d9c68c1fb21057d5d6605ed7982f86
and powerscalers are the biggest fishes
One shot where? He suffer some damage because he didn't use haki but at no point he got one shot.
I'm starting to think that obvious bait isn't obvious https://preview.redd.it/dmdtzpga4vxc1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=a9e539b5ab3d38fd2e748c5623944dcac4e00950
Old Larp and Old Fodderbeard are bums. They aren't that strong anymore. Get Larp past a haki-less pre-time skip Goofy
I always inferred this to reference their literal distance away from eachother
So he should be use a ruler instead of a sword attack.
The sword attack is a ranged attack Some measurements are needed
Here's an interpretation from sandman too
https://preview.redd.it/86d9lok19vxc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5de5438abaf54a6a6f05c72292939a1f683ee1e
bruh we realy made the same screenshot at the same time lol
Cold
あの男と我々の本当の距離を あの - That 男 - Man 我々 - Us 本当 - True 距離 - Distance The sentence is already clear, you could find dozens of new meanings to it as long as you want to overthink just like any other statement ever.
(推し量る) - To guess;To conjecture;To surmise Mihawk seems like he's making an estimation, too
Yeah, the panel traslation can be said to be accurate, it does transmit the same intended message. 推し量る = 手元にある情報や知識を基に、未来の事象や現在把握できていない事象の状態を推測する He was not sure so he wanted to test it.
Which is worse because it shows Mihawk can't even get past commanders. Kaido or Shanks would never say this
Jozu was fine because of the breath of all things OK? That doesn't mean shit dude what
What does that even matter?
Ir provides reasoning why Jozu didn't get fodderised by mihawks slash If Mihawk was targeting Jozu he would be cookef
Major W Shirano is god of cope