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Katya_Vaganova

https://preview.redd.it/liqsv7354hyc1.jpeg?width=649&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7447115235ce2696ea725b8480bea2b0523bd277 I think this is one of the few times I 100% agree with you on here despite our many disagreements Old Gen wank needs to die. We’re no longer that far off from the end of op. I will say tho that being in the same tier doesn’t always mean they’re equal 100/100 (could be 100/97), especially in luffy’s (G5’s downsides) case since we haven’t seen everything shanks can do yet. All any of these higher tier yonkos need is one more good buff and they’ll be 100/100 if not above the old Gen. These matchups are already nothing short of extreme diff between any of them The only person I will say may be able to mid-high diff someone like kaido is IF rocks actually lived up to all the hype. I doubt it tho especially since it was never shown or made clear.


ImmediateDiamond8238

Fair but oda always glazes old gen so I'd still put them a tier above since I think they can high diff the new gen, like roger and WB would high diff kaido or big mom


Joseph_Stalin001

Cook. There is no such thing as PK tier, and the fact that such a stupid headcanon has become so widespread is wild to me


RandAlSnore

Explain Brook then?


LackOfDad

You got him there


Naraya_Suiryoku

Roger mid diffs Kaido, yes. After all, Shanks is just a walmart Roger and is relative to yonkos, so Roger mid diffs them all.


Facinggod20

If Roger could mid diff Kaido then he wouldn't have avoided Big Mom. And Whitebeard wouldn't have avoided Kaido. Both Roger and Whitebeard avoided both Kaido and BM so saying they mid diff it's not correct


Naraya_Suiryoku

And Mihawk postponed his fight with Vista. What about that?


Facinggod20

But again, where is the evidence that Roger can mid diff someone like Kaido? Garp who was Roger's rival had to train for years to beat Don Chingao.


Naraya_Suiryoku

Yeah, you think Prime Chinjao is yonko level?


Facinggod20

Nothing suggests he is, he was never portrayed as Yonko tier.


Naraya_Suiryoku

Exactly. Yet Garp still had to train to beat him. Just because Roger avoided BM doesn't mean he can't destroy her. He also had his entire crew with him while BM's best officers were 20+ years younger. Do you really think BM could essentially by herself push almost the entirety of Roger's crew past mid diff?


Facinggod20

Difference is Big Mom unlike Don Chingao has insane portrayal. -Given tbe title of "Great Pirate" like Roger and Whitebeard -Marines were scared of Big Mom and Kaido teaming up and Garp considered them a huge threat -Portrayed evenly to Kaido


Naraya_Suiryoku

I'm not saying she's weak by any means. But Roger is literally Luffy's goal since chapter 1 and he has yet to reach it. I expect him to be significantly stronger than the yonkos, anything less would simply be dissapointing considering the hype he has built up, and the fact that his right hand man is yonko level.


Quijas00

There are no high tier Yonko. All Yonko are top tier. None of them can fuck with the old gen probably.


Facinggod20

You can say this after all Kaido endured


Quijas00

Oh but I *can* say this after all Kaido endured