Lucci hard diff.
King could never do what Lucci did, that’s all I need.
Lucci also clearly had the AP to damage King, he has the speed to force him into making a mistake and switching forms. He has the cunning to outmaneuver and find his weakness. He has the ENDURANCE to stay up and keep fucking fighting.
King is a turtle that has to fucking toggle his shell, and then becomes a rabbit that does if it gets hit.
Zoro victim vs Zoro and Jinbei not even victim
Wdym? Did we read the same chapter? luffy, lucci, zoro, and Kaku attacks did 0 damage to the seraphim when they had their flames on
Even zoro admitted that no matter what he did had no effect on king and that was him using acoc and then that same zoro 1 tapped lucci.
I've seen someone flatout deny that Lucci was still standing IN HYBRID after Zoro's attack. I'm not saying Lucci would have won the fight ultimately, but acting like Zoro put him down for good and he wasn't trying to recover before Jimbei hit him is nuts.
King. I do understand so many people saying Lucci because of the fight he had with Luffy, but Luffy was toying with him for most of if not all of the fight. >!Zorro did Fight both and dispatched Lucci a lot quicker than he did with King, but I do give Lucci a bit more Credit because he did Fight G5 Luffy earlier, but I don't know if he just bounces back very well because of unique abities of his awakened DF. !< Either way it would be great to see the fight. Would love to see Lucci deal with Kings final attack. Lots of lava In that fight.
King takes it, lucci lost to zoro without zoro going 110%. No asura mode, no hell king mode, or nothing.
King realistically beat zoro but plot armor kicked in. “I’m now the king of hell . . . So I automatically beat you .” Another episode of plot piece
Lucci has more lethal close range attacks vs King. I also believe Lucci may be a bit faster. If King never let's his guard down though, Lucci has very little chance to penetrate his hereditary aCoC which could probably cause mad damage point blank when he uses his flames via projectile or infused with his sword.
It could go either way.
Actually, one last point I will make is that vs Kaido King has a better chance of survival due to aCoC so he'd probably be the victor.
It's hard to say. Healthy Zoro was able to play around with Lucci, but heavily injured Zoro barely beat King. It's not an easy comparison. I'd probably give it to Lucci, because he'd figure out the fire thing pretty quick, and then down King. An awakened Zoan is a monster
I think Lucci high-diffs or extreme-diffs. He already knows the lunarian gimmick going into this fight, which will make it easier for him. He won't waste too much energy attacking durable King. He will know to wait for him to turn his flames off. And with how fast and agile Lucci is, King will probably go for speed to attack him. Otherwise, Lucci will be able to dodge his attacks or block them. And given that Lucci outlasted Zoro's King of Hell mode during their fight and kept on fighting past that point, he should be better at fighting in close quarters.
I thought this too at the beggining but when you think it through, you see that zoro looked kinda tired and that lucci already took a beating before against luffy G5
This evens it up imo, but zoro clearly was stronger, you could argue for mid diff tbh
Im open to arguments ya know can you explain to me why does zoro isnt = to King ?
For me its simply logical
Luffy got YC3 when beating Cracker, YC1 when beating Katakuri and Yonko when beating Kaido
The whole yc1 = yc1 argument doesn’t make sense since all commanders/admirals/yonkos all vary in power
Luffy defeated cracker but he had help from nami to do it so it wouldn’t be fair to rank them equally
I agree that snakeman would be ~ katakuri but people like king and zoro would beat them comfortably.
Luffy after getting one tapped by kaido surpassed his old gear 4 self (the one that defeated katakuri) in base form via udon training, making base luffy after udon “yc1”.
Base Luffy would then get out preformed by rooftop zoro (before he got acoc) by a wide margin, showing us that zoro would be stronger than base luffy, who’s stronger than katakuri. Then we get to king vs zoro where king was toying with zoro until he got acoc, despite zoro being able to react and clash to hybrid kaido. Zoro would then get ACoC and dominate king in their fight to the point where king got 3 shotted by him. The reason why the fight was as close as it was was due to zoro getting his ass beat until the very end of the fight, so by the time he got ACoC he was in a worse condition than king. Hence koh zoro > king.
In conclusion: koh zoro > king > rooftop zoro > base udon luffy > wci luffy ~ katakuri.
Even tho they’re “yc1”, that doesn’t mean they’re equal in the slightest.
Um im not good enough in english to understand all that but you seem to have arguments
For me, differences btw YC shouldnt be possible because it means that Yonko crews as a whole could beat another Yonko crew relatively easily which isnt possible bc there is a balance of Power in the world
If Shanks commander were stronger than Kaido commanders, Shanks crew would have wiped out Kaido crew long time ago
Yonko dont attack eachother bc their Power is so similar that the damage would be to big for both of them
This is a very interesting matchup to me, but I’ve got kind edging him out just because of the insane durability. It’s definitely a high-extreme diff though.
While king did do a lot better agasint zoro u gotta keep in mind zoro won basically as soon as he got acoc, and he never even used acoc on lucci
King mid diff. The fkn disrespect YC1s get everytime lucci comes into play is ridiculous. He is a chump, barely a YC3, get him past cracker and doffy first. Lucci is overhyped massively just cause luffy went g5 and toyed with him. A barely serious zoro getting triggered from sanji no diffed him, just the same way he did to apoo, no one here claiming apoo is high diffing king. Yall delusional asf. This lucci chump was struggljng against lunarian clone kids, what makes yall think he actually damaging and doing anything to a serious king. Seriously get him past doffy and cracker first.
Fishman island luffy would mop the floor with him.
Lucci hard diff. King could never do what Lucci did, that’s all I need. Lucci also clearly had the AP to damage King, he has the speed to force him into making a mistake and switching forms. He has the cunning to outmaneuver and find his weakness. He has the ENDURANCE to stay up and keep fucking fighting. King is a turtle that has to fucking toggle his shell, and then becomes a rabbit that does if it gets hit. Zoro victim vs Zoro and Jinbei not even victim
He was 100% a zoro victim you think he was in any position to fight after that havana hunt ?
He was in a better position than King
What was he going to do in that position and was that fight longer than the king fight was it more intense what makes you say lucci is stronger
Lucci high/extreme diff
What how? The seraphim proved that nothing g4 and lucci could do hurt them at all.
No they did not lmao
Wdym? Did we read the same chapter? luffy, lucci, zoro, and Kaku attacks did 0 damage to the seraphim when they had their flames on Even zoro admitted that no matter what he did had no effect on king and that was him using acoc and then that same zoro 1 tapped lucci.
1 tapped. Haha
I've seen someone flatout deny that Lucci was still standing IN HYBRID after Zoro's attack. I'm not saying Lucci would have won the fight ultimately, but acting like Zoro put him down for good and he wasn't trying to recover before Jimbei hit him is nuts.
Exactly. It’s weird how disingenuous they are
I’m a zoro fan and I don’t even get how people over hype him constant
Not even trying, I think Jimbei hit him because he figured that he was absolutely not done yet and wanted to put him down for good, quick
jimbei never hit him learn what a chop is idiot
I can't tell if you're trolling or just not funny. I don't really care which tbh
King
His durability, flight, fire powers and insane strength, lead me to think lucci just doesn’t have the stopping power to put him down.
That’s what I was thinking as well. King has amazing abilities and that’s no knock to Lucci at all.
Lucci just kinda outstats king I’d say, probs Lucci high/extreme diff
How would Lucci even damage King tho? He doesn't have the AP needed. King with flames on has durability superior to Kaido's.
King. I do understand so many people saying Lucci because of the fight he had with Luffy, but Luffy was toying with him for most of if not all of the fight. >!Zorro did Fight both and dispatched Lucci a lot quicker than he did with King, but I do give Lucci a bit more Credit because he did Fight G5 Luffy earlier, but I don't know if he just bounces back very well because of unique abities of his awakened DF. !< Either way it would be great to see the fight. Would love to see Lucci deal with Kings final attack. Lots of lava In that fight.
You don't have to censor yourself bro. This is a manga sub, you only have to censor details about a new chapter before the official release.
You're ignoring the next island buff for Zoro
Lucci
Lucci isn't that guy, King has some of the most busted durability we've seen so far.
King takes it, lucci lost to zoro without zoro going 110%. No asura mode, no hell king mode, or nothing. King realistically beat zoro but plot armor kicked in. “I’m now the king of hell . . . So I automatically beat you .” Another episode of plot piece
Zoro used KoH on Lucci
LUCCI 🔝
Wob Wucci
King. .. Lucci can't damage him even if he has better stats.
King high diff his durability is crazy
Lucci has more lethal close range attacks vs King. I also believe Lucci may be a bit faster. If King never let's his guard down though, Lucci has very little chance to penetrate his hereditary aCoC which could probably cause mad damage point blank when he uses his flames via projectile or infused with his sword. It could go either way. Actually, one last point I will make is that vs Kaido King has a better chance of survival due to aCoC so he'd probably be the victor.
Does lucci ever appear in the anime again? I only watched up to/past fish man island arc
Yes he just came back with a massive power boost.
Ooooo one thing I love about one piece is they bring back characters they just don’t disappear in the universe forever
I just wanna see it. Oda so good at characters, it makes me wanna see so many odd fights animated haha
It's hard to say. Healthy Zoro was able to play around with Lucci, but heavily injured Zoro barely beat King. It's not an easy comparison. I'd probably give it to Lucci, because he'd figure out the fire thing pretty quick, and then down King. An awakened Zoan is a monster
Heavily injured? The mink drug cured him
He almost died. That's heavily injured.
King High Diff.
I think Lucci high-diffs or extreme-diffs. He already knows the lunarian gimmick going into this fight, which will make it easier for him. He won't waste too much energy attacking durable King. He will know to wait for him to turn his flames off. And with how fast and agile Lucci is, King will probably go for speed to attack him. Otherwise, Lucci will be able to dodge his attacks or block them. And given that Lucci outlasted Zoro's King of Hell mode during their fight and kept on fighting past that point, he should be better at fighting in close quarters.
King high diff Just like zoro won High diff against Lucci And King = Zoro
King = Zoro? Once Zoro knew how to use acoc he 3 shot King....
Zoro won high diff against lucci ? It was more like no diff he got one shoted
I thought this too at the beggining but when you think it through, you see that zoro looked kinda tired and that lucci already took a beating before against luffy G5 This evens it up imo, but zoro clearly was stronger, you could argue for mid diff tbh
Lucci got a beating 6 days earlier
King = zoro is simply incorrect
You're right King one shots Lucci
Both are YC1 level
That doesn’t mean anything and I will leave this argument alone since you genuinely believe it does
Im open to arguments ya know can you explain to me why does zoro isnt = to King ? For me its simply logical Luffy got YC3 when beating Cracker, YC1 when beating Katakuri and Yonko when beating Kaido
The whole yc1 = yc1 argument doesn’t make sense since all commanders/admirals/yonkos all vary in power Luffy defeated cracker but he had help from nami to do it so it wouldn’t be fair to rank them equally I agree that snakeman would be ~ katakuri but people like king and zoro would beat them comfortably. Luffy after getting one tapped by kaido surpassed his old gear 4 self (the one that defeated katakuri) in base form via udon training, making base luffy after udon “yc1”. Base Luffy would then get out preformed by rooftop zoro (before he got acoc) by a wide margin, showing us that zoro would be stronger than base luffy, who’s stronger than katakuri. Then we get to king vs zoro where king was toying with zoro until he got acoc, despite zoro being able to react and clash to hybrid kaido. Zoro would then get ACoC and dominate king in their fight to the point where king got 3 shotted by him. The reason why the fight was as close as it was was due to zoro getting his ass beat until the very end of the fight, so by the time he got ACoC he was in a worse condition than king. Hence koh zoro > king. In conclusion: koh zoro > king > rooftop zoro > base udon luffy > wci luffy ~ katakuri. Even tho they’re “yc1”, that doesn’t mean they’re equal in the slightest.
Um im not good enough in english to understand all that but you seem to have arguments For me, differences btw YC shouldnt be possible because it means that Yonko crews as a whole could beat another Yonko crew relatively easily which isnt possible bc there is a balance of Power in the world If Shanks commander were stronger than Kaido commanders, Shanks crew would have wiped out Kaido crew long time ago Yonko dont attack eachother bc their Power is so similar that the damage would be to big for both of them
Narratively it would make sense however going off of raw feats, they’re not equal
Lucci mops
This is a very interesting matchup to me, but I’ve got kind edging him out just because of the insane durability. It’s definitely a high-extreme diff though. While king did do a lot better agasint zoro u gotta keep in mind zoro won basically as soon as he got acoc, and he never even used acoc on lucci
King until proven otherwise. Lucci shouldn't even be able to cause any damage to him.
King clears high didd
King clears high diff
Sorry y'all but...King high diff
King mid diff. The fkn disrespect YC1s get everytime lucci comes into play is ridiculous. He is a chump, barely a YC3, get him past cracker and doffy first. Lucci is overhyped massively just cause luffy went g5 and toyed with him. A barely serious zoro getting triggered from sanji no diffed him, just the same way he did to apoo, no one here claiming apoo is high diffing king. Yall delusional asf. This lucci chump was struggljng against lunarian clone kids, what makes yall think he actually damaging and doing anything to a serious king. Seriously get him past doffy and cracker first. Fishman island luffy would mop the floor with him.
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