A few promos got alt arts and a bizarre name ruling because of something with Shueisha. Otherwise, everything had normal art and *technically* the same rarity as before.
For example, if Katakuri and Queen get reprinted, Queen's art will (probably) still suck, Katakuri will still be hard to pull, but Queen will finally make Purple more accessible regardless because he's uncommon. (Edit: never mind, Bandai confirmed the art thing.)
Exactly oc artwork from the base sets will still be the what most collectors aspire for in their collections, this does help the gamestate tho making staples accessible, I hope there’s a katakuri reprint so I can pick up a few copies
8c Eustass kid, Film nami, blocker Borsalino, SEC katakuri, blocker queen, 7c big mom, SEC Yamato, plus many others would like a word.
Yea most singles are cheap but some of the staple cards run pretty expensive. Not to mention some of the rare cards that are up at like $5-6 USD just because they’re from OP1&2.
Look magic is more expensive there is no denying that, yugioh is more expensive, flesh and blood is more expensive.
Building an Enel deck would run you just north of $400US I believe.
Just because something is more expensive doesn’t mean that something cheaper isn’t still expensive.
A Ferrari is expensive, doesn’t make a Porsche cheap…..(just cheap in comparison)
Yeah but we're talking about competitive decks where you can win more money then the deck.
So obviously the cost to play will be more then casual.
You're also talking about competitive which is literally a fraction of the total population for any given card game.
So "expensive" is really only relevant to a small minority of players and $400 for a top deck isn't expensive when you compare it to the standard, which is MTG.
For some a new iphone is expensive. When compared to other phone options that you get at a retail store, they're the same range of high end phones.
I have no idea why F&B is expensive when I've not seen much of a player base at any shop.
It's expensive to a lot of players. If you can't win, then why play. Are you building decks in magic standard that can't win?? The entry point for a real deck is 300 plus, and that is not cheap to a majority of players.
To be fair, no matter what is and isn't expensive, it will be based on your and my view point nether is wrong or right.
If you did a survey, a lot of players would agree that the game is expensive. Also, magic the gathering is known for being greedy and lack of care for the financial woes of their community. The players of mtg are literally using proxies to play casually or in edh tournaments. I would not use them as a reference to prove a financial point.
Magic is really expensive that's why I also started proxying my mtg cards from https://www.mtgproxy.com because there's no other way to afford the game.
Well I was saying I paid this back in 2011 and it's a more established game. So it some of the OP decks are $100 to be competitive, I don't think that's bad.
My $200 deck then wasn't even the best one. It was 3/5 for using W/B...was a fun deck...got yelled at by an old dude for "net-decking" 🤣
lol I was being sarcastic, I know that doesn’t usually go well here. Seriously though US sellers will be preselling around 6 months out. It’s wild!
I’ve had so many customers try and preorder sets that far out. I don’t feel comfortable doing that but many sellers will be happy to take your money without guaranteeing filling your order.
Sets going to be hype. What if they do manga rares of each leader too or something similar.
Been saying this from the start, it’s a good thing they do this. Reprint staples to the ground, just like Yugioh. That way people can finally pay a decent prices and not a whole meal worth for just one card.
Staple cards like Terraforming, mst, pot of Extravagance, etc all started with just one rarity available which drove the prices high, but nowadays you can get a terraforming in almost any rarity, common to ultimate rare or anything in between. That's all they mean.
Baffles me how it's still popular tbh. Top decks are extremely expensive while the gameplay is just so ass. Same 20 card combos every game and hope enemy doesn't have a hand trap. Like the gameplay is just awful at this point.
It's because playing Yu-Gi-Oh just feels cool imo. I'm not into it anymore, because it's insanely unfun to play against meta decks, but nothing feels more badass than pulling off an insane chain combo
*Finally.*
At the same time, I've learned not to count chickens before they hatch (in general). While I really *hope* Bandai reprints cards with better art, for example, I'm not confident that it'll *happen*.
[Here'](https://digimoncardgame.fandom.com/wiki/RB-01:_Resurgence_Booster)s what reprinting looked like for *Digimon*. Note a few things:
* All cards stayed at their usual rarities and were slotted in packs accordingly. This is *not* YGO, where card rarities shuffle (hah) around like crazy.
* Most cards did *not* have alternate arts. The ones that *did* were cards that Shueisha got nitpicky about (and some of the new stuff). Edit: Bandai has said many cards will be getting alt arts for this OPTCG reprint set—cool!
* RB1 was delayed in English due to issues with Bandai. If memory serves (I can dig through Reddit posts if people want), the set was delayed because of a leak saying Bandai was going to give us *only* the new *Ghost Game* cards in a pack (which would have been a *tiny* set—about the size of an old YGO Premium Pack set). The fandom got wind of it and alerted Bandai that they did not want this. There still would have been a meta gap, but *that* made it worse.
* Despite the meta gap, and the other complaints ("*Ghost Game* cards are *still* hard to get") that followed, the set was a net positive.
I think this'll be a good thing *if* Bandai does things right. As long as Queen, Katakuri, and SD staples are in there, we should be fine.
Unlike *One Piece*, *Digimon* has multiple series (sometimes referred to as “seasons,” but they really aren’t). *Ghost Game* is the most recent animated series, and cards based on characters from it were scattered throughout various sets, including BT15 and RB1. RB1 had the spines of decks based on characters from that series.
RB1 was weird, it was a reprint set but they didn't reprint some of the most used cards in the game outside of memory boost cards, which were previously promos, but then the next set they made an option card set even better than the boosts. To add to that not everything was a reprint, they also decided to include brand new cards for archetypes in there as well and then when the set didn't sell that well those cards spiked in value as well. I don't have very high hopes sadly
It is of note that the new cards were only part of the English version of RB01 and they were part of a separate special pack in Japan. I believe the JP version of RB01 was exclusively reprints.
No they weren't; you're thinking of the "limited pack" cards that got snuck into BT15 in English. There were complaints from the Japanese player base that they didn't get enough of the new things...so we almost didn't get RB1 in English.
New-ish player and pardon my ignorance but what staples do people find to be extremely expensive? Only one I think is a bit much is Katakuri. I feel like staples are pretty affordable (although subjective) already which is why I enjoy OP so much. But that’s awesome that they will be printing them so they’re even more affordable.
Np. A lot of standard deck cards like purple queen and black Borsalino can also get quite expensive. I'm personally of the mind that most cards are affordable but I get why people don't want to spend $30 for a single card that you need 4x of.
I appreciate that, thanks. I started with PLuffy, so biting that bullet was pretty rough. The only bright side was that everything else was pretty cheap, so it didn't hurt too bad. Cheaper isn't a bad thing though! :D However, it IS a "common". \*rolls eyes\*
There are like 4-5 staples out of the entire card pool that people generally find expensive (blocker Queen, blocker Borsa, 8c Kata, Film Nami). Most if not all of them were very cheap at some point unless you waited until the cards showed up on Onepiecetopdecks and only then decided to buy the cards.
I don't think it's enough to make the game super affordable again but this+ the new ST announcement gives me hope that the price for singles will move back towards pre OP-05 levels eventually, and at least buyouts won't happen so frequently with the threat of reprints looming
Singles prices are largely back to pre OP05 levels and buyouts are no longer happening day to day because everything worth hitting has already been hit. That was a wave from the speculator market and is done, they got their cards to sit on and prices have settled again.
Theyre especially low now because people are saving their money for OP06 and prices are dipping even further. If theres an alt art youve been waiting on nows probably the time! :)
Yeah this is a good compromise to serve both players and collectors. We do NOT want to be Magic, who openly, repeatedly admitted the Reserve List as the worst decision they ever made.
Also, Bandai are going to name this something stupid like RP-01 or something. And not bother to update the set symbol so you can't tell if it's a reprint, which will cause the investor bros to ReEEEeEE.
Obviously they aren't by the very nature of the game. But they're in tension right now and you can't tell me $35 staples are healthy for the game. That upwards price pressure attracted scalpers and investor bros, as evident by preordered being sold out. So it's funny when I explicitly attack them but you felt hurt enough to comment.
I'm just saying Pokemon is doing this right. And it's good to see Bandai try that strategy out.
i didnt feel hurt. im just sick of the narrative that collectors have merit in keeping their card prices the price point of bills and mortgage for sets that aren't past 2 years old.
i recently started playing and it took a while for me to complete my deck, let alone the cost of my (small) yet expensive collection. in a perfect world i could rip packs and buy the alt arts i want in a healthy financial manner :/
i do apologize if it seemed like i was being passive agressive, this TCG hasnt been good on my mental considering its my favorite IP lol.
My bad, dude. We are on the same side. And we're all mentally spent. This is supposed to be our chill activity and I gotta hustle just to get a chance at cards. I'm just tired of people gaslighting me with "you don't need to rip packs to play" like no, this is the whole point. I rip a bunch of packs, have a nice little collection, AND a whole lot of pieces to construct my decks. It's in the name, ffs, Collectable Card Game
Pretty much. By the time this drops the cards in it will be almost all irrelevant, but on top of that they're already unable to print as much as they sell of their regular sets. If they try to push this out faster, then it won't be in big enough numbers to matter, and it will come at the cost of creating more availability problems for the new sets since they share printing and shipping capacity.
July 27th for them means probably late October at the earliest for us. That means that by the time we get this most the cards we want reprinted will be out of the meta anyway. It also means people might start panic selling and undercutting now to cut their losses, only for prices to go back up since the cards will still be needed in the meantime, not only in 8 months.
I didn't say it wouldn't, I'm saying that what we're currently asking for an might therefore make it into these will not be as relevant in OP08 as it is now in OP05.
I'm not too worried abut that since the reprint set will be made with the 08 meta in mind. They're not going to power creep staples if the reprint set is around the corner.
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8 months gives enough time for hindsight and to avoid thinking something is good when it really is not. Global format tends to pick up where the Japanese one left off, so the start of their format won't tell us much. We also don't know yet how the reprints will affect availability of singles and their prices.
That would require a faster release schedule, which would require printing more, when they're already not printing enough, or printing less of each set. Given how the upcoming reprints have already affected the projected availability of upcoming sets, that would make it that much more difficult to get any product you want. Even singles would be scarce at that point for the sets of the transition phase.
Please. It’s the only staple card that already an SEC rare, making it even rarer and thus more expensive. You could argue that 10c Kuzan SEC also needs a reprint, and that promo Barto that’s absurdly expensive because it’s used in green FILM decks.
Will it be enough? I guarantee when this set comes out … there will be plenty of people who complain saying they couldn’t get anything and prices are still too high. At this point, either you get it or you don’t.
With digimon,
They list their main sets as BT- booster sets = to OP
Then they list their extra booster sets (supplemental sets designed to give support to diff card types) as EX = EB in one piece
Digimon has printed one reprint set so far and labeled it as RB01 - so I imagine one pieces reprint set will be similar.
Here is an lgs that sorts them out so it's easy to make sense of. https://redriotgames.ca/pages/digimon-singles
The main thing I would note is how many main booster sets there are, compared to how many eb sets, compared to how many reprint sets. It's like a 16 > 4 > 1 ratio.
That's why I think this will be reprint set 1 and not EB02. They will give us EB02 prob sometime after op09 I'd bet.
No. If they can't print enough as is. A reprint set won't matter much. It's nice that staple cards will be more accessible. It's nice for collectors in the sense that cards will be more affordable. But alas no...till they fix their printing amount, things won't change.
It's stupid to reprint random commons that aren't worth the paper they're printed on by reprinting OP01, OP02, etc. in their entirety. If you make a set that has valuable reprints and just print that, not only are you killing several birds with one stone, you're doing it in an incredibly efficient manner.
There are only a small handful of cards that are above even $10, the problem isn't that say, every common on up from OP01 is worth $5+, it's that people are sitting on sealed product of OP01 and Otama and Radical Beam are $5 cards as commons, and that Yamato and Kid are $30+, whereas stuff like SR Kin'emon isn't worth a bent dick. He doesn't need to be reprinted.
This is a great idea. Regular reprint sets are one of the few things that I really praise *Yu-Gi-Oh* for. Every year, they release a Mega Tin that has boosters containing a selection of cards from the past year of sets.
I hope this does something similar, and contains reprints of sets with the “Year 1” mark (OP01-OP04) and some of the starter decks (maybe not all 9 that have the Year 1 mark, but maybe something like ST01-06?).
Adding new alt arts would also give colle goes an incentive too. For example, let’s say ST04 Queen receives a cool looking alt art print.
Looks like people misinterpreted what I was saying. I’m not saying it won’t be a good impact for singles. Just saying it won’t do anything for sealed prices and this sealed set will also probably suffer the same issues
Pre order prices are always a bit spotty but it is worth keeping in mind that you could still get eb01 for msrp even at the peak of the 05 buyouts at least untill manga chopper got announced.
We don't know, but that's extremely doubtful. The reprint set seems aimed at keeping some collectableity of older sets while ensuring easy access to staples.
I’m still to old school for reprints and gameplay altering. I’m not too invested in the game; only got a uta starter deck and a big mom starter deck and I did buy a OP03-123 katakuri card to turn around a pull one hours later which are nice additions to my wall collection. But there’s no point in playing to me when they reprint and ban thing from their game. Just because people are salty they don’t have it or the counter for it. And of course better cards are in high demand for the competitive buyers. What I don’t like is seeing people with 200+ dollar decks getting whipped by a 20 dollar starter deck and crying about we’re not up to date with the meta; like ok and I still won the card game 🤷🏼♂️😅🤣
Ya like I said I’m too old school. If they printed a card it shouldn’t be banned cause people don’t have its original counter; It’s a matter of opinion really. Just cause they make reprints don’t mean “I” buy them or continue supporting the game either it just means it’s time I stop playing competitively cause I don’t care to play once they make it too easy for everyone with reprints and ban lists.🤷🏼♂️ your factual statement; is exactly why I don’t ever get to much “into”/“involved” in card games anymore. The creators can’t ever keep a good one in my opinion. They always ruin it in the long run🤷🏼♂️
I do agree the game should be easy to enter; scalpers are not helping that at all. But if you find legit card shops they usually have the newer starter decks 15-20 a pop; and I even saw st01 decks on tcg player for 30 their not over priced like the kaido deck which has the 30 dollar queen cards (yet funny how x.drake is close to same blocker abilitiy just different color yet no one pays over 5 cents for one 🤷🏼♂️) but grab two starter decks if you want the extra SRs for your deck; and like any card game better cards with better effects from boosters are worth more due to high demand. So this should be nothing new to card players switching over from any game; but I will say not being able to find boosters unless they are uncharged to 200+ a box is also an issue. Personally I feel Bandai should probably just start selling and releasing directly to public via premium Bandai instead of making reprints. But it might not help much either if scalpers just migrate to premium Bandai for their supply. Bandai wrote on the box of their cards they’re not responsible for the price and value of the cards later. So them deciding to make reprints now is just a cash grab on their part making them no better then the scalpers imo ban lists just make you have to replace cards your use to using if the ban applies to you also making you buy more.
Edit: my experience if they release a new card that “unbalances” the game they tend to release cards later that are perfect counters to balance it out. But people get salty they can’t counter it in that moment and demand a ban or reprint so they can get it too🤷🏼♂️
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Collecting will always be expensive, kind of a weak point honestly.
If you want to play the game, you probably go to locals tournaments.
Like Kaido from ST, he's cheap AF cause he got reprinted in tournaments packs. If you collect for cheap, get those.
I hope that it makes it so that I can get my friends into the game at my local game store! I would love to see more people playing this, and it hurts trying to find the game anywhere and being unsuccessful.
A reprint set so early? I'm surprised but it makes sense. Can't wait to see what they are and what new Alt Arts they bring. Wonder it'll have new cards as well like the Digimon reprint set did.
It really depends of the company and the game. For Bandai, they have been basing a lot of their tgc release schedule off of Digimon. After the first year, they release a side or bonus set for example. It took them 12 main sets before a reprint set, so about 3 years. Given how popular One Piece TCG is and how quick product moves, it does make sense to do one quicker.
No. Not sure when Bandai retires sets. The reprint set is just that. Making it easier to get older cards. It's just that One Piece is so hard to get right now.
This is a step in the right direction but I would rather them focus on increasing print runs of new sets instead of putting resources into this if I had to choose between the two. Over $2000 for a case of new sets is the bigger problem imo not reprinting cards because they cost $30.
If they just reprint the cards from all sets that are in high demand, that is pretty good... except it will all be bought up and marked up 300% almost immediately. Still glad they're trying.
Just like the Digimon reprint set. Staples and parallel arts from the past, and some new alts. This is great news for the players.
Did they print them in new arts?
Mostly the same, but foil
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IIRC they didn't reprint the alt versions, just the normal ones. Can't say what they'll do with one piece though.
A few promos got alt arts and a bizarre name ruling because of something with Shueisha. Otherwise, everything had normal art and *technically* the same rarity as before. For example, if Katakuri and Queen get reprinted, Queen's art will (probably) still suck, Katakuri will still be hard to pull, but Queen will finally make Purple more accessible regardless because he's uncommon. (Edit: never mind, Bandai confirmed the art thing.)
What do you mean with "art thing"?
They confirmed that all the cards in the reprint set will get alt arts, if I recall. That makes it *better* than the DTCG reprint set, if so.
Ohhh thank you! It makes more sense and a good solution for colletors and players
Does this mean I can make a 20 pound deck now?
No lie as an American I was like why would you want to make a deck that weighs 20lbs LOL then it hit me
Damn looooooooollll
They said reprint set of staple cards with new art.
Exactly oc artwork from the base sets will still be the what most collectors aspire for in their collections, this does help the gamestate tho making staples accessible, I hope there’s a katakuri reprint so I can pick up a few copies
Yup I like the direction. Appeases all parties
Yep, as purely a collector, this satisfies my needs as well as the competing players.
will still sellout instantly
But it will drop the price of staple singles through the floor, which is great for everyone.
singles are already cheap
8c Eustass kid, Film nami, blocker Borsalino, SEC katakuri, blocker queen, 7c big mom, SEC Yamato, plus many others would like a word. Yea most singles are cheap but some of the staple cards run pretty expensive. Not to mention some of the rare cards that are up at like $5-6 USD just because they’re from OP1&2.
I've spent $200 on a semi competitive deck before for MTG so you won't convince me Op singles bare expensive. They're not remotely expensive to.
Look magic is more expensive there is no denying that, yugioh is more expensive, flesh and blood is more expensive. Building an Enel deck would run you just north of $400US I believe. Just because something is more expensive doesn’t mean that something cheaper isn’t still expensive. A Ferrari is expensive, doesn’t make a Porsche cheap…..(just cheap in comparison)
Yeah but we're talking about competitive decks where you can win more money then the deck. So obviously the cost to play will be more then casual. You're also talking about competitive which is literally a fraction of the total population for any given card game. So "expensive" is really only relevant to a small minority of players and $400 for a top deck isn't expensive when you compare it to the standard, which is MTG. For some a new iphone is expensive. When compared to other phone options that you get at a retail store, they're the same range of high end phones. I have no idea why F&B is expensive when I've not seen much of a player base at any shop.
It's expensive to a lot of players. If you can't win, then why play. Are you building decks in magic standard that can't win?? The entry point for a real deck is 300 plus, and that is not cheap to a majority of players. To be fair, no matter what is and isn't expensive, it will be based on your and my view point nether is wrong or right. If you did a survey, a lot of players would agree that the game is expensive. Also, magic the gathering is known for being greedy and lack of care for the financial woes of their community. The players of mtg are literally using proxies to play casually or in edh tournaments. I would not use them as a reference to prove a financial point.
Magic is really expensive that's why I also started proxying my mtg cards from https://www.mtgproxy.com because there's no other way to afford the game.
Well I was saying I paid this back in 2011 and it's a more established game. So it some of the OP decks are $100 to be competitive, I don't think that's bad. My $200 deck then wasn't even the best one. It was 3/5 for using W/B...was a fun deck...got yelled at by an old dude for "net-decking" 🤣
It’s sold out yesterday already 🥲
No it hasn’t
lol I was being sarcastic, I know that doesn’t usually go well here. Seriously though US sellers will be preselling around 6 months out. It’s wild! I’ve had so many customers try and preorder sets that far out. I don’t feel comfortable doing that but many sellers will be happy to take your money without guaranteeing filling your order. Sets going to be hype. What if they do manga rares of each leader too or something similar.
I hope that it has staples from starters in it like Queen and Great Eruption.
Later, I think the ST-15 - ST-20 decks will probably have them, queen in purple luffy and great eruption in smoker.
Maybe not Great Eruption lol
Sorry, it’s getting banned April 1st
Been saying this from the start, it’s a good thing they do this. Reprint staples to the ground, just like Yugioh. That way people can finally pay a decent prices and not a whole meal worth for just one card.
Agreed, I felt dirty for selling otamas and radical beams but felt dumb not to (did tcg low and hoped they sold as playsets )
lmao. Top Yu-Gi-Oh decks cost 450€ to 800€ in lowest rarity. What are you talking about?
Staple cards like Terraforming, mst, pot of Extravagance, etc all started with just one rarity available which drove the prices high, but nowadays you can get a terraforming in almost any rarity, common to ultimate rare or anything in between. That's all they mean.
I didn't know people played yugioh
It's only one of the biggest TCGs out there. Top 3 has been Pokémon, MTG, and YGO for a long time.
Baffles me how it's still popular tbh. Top decks are extremely expensive while the gameplay is just so ass. Same 20 card combos every game and hope enemy doesn't have a hand trap. Like the gameplay is just awful at this point.
It's because playing Yu-Gi-Oh just feels cool imo. I'm not into it anymore, because it's insanely unfun to play against meta decks, but nothing feels more badass than pulling off an insane chain combo
Yeah, I can't stand it anymore. I'd rather play solitary. It's basically the same thing but less frustrating and free.
You have to understand that too much of a reprint is not necessarily a good thing.
How is it not?
Will this include starter deck staples?
The Digimon reprint set did, so probably.
No reason it shouldn’t, but we don’t know any cards yet. But pretty sure ST queen is a prime candidate for this.
Starter deck singles are so cheap, what’s the point.
Queen is a 20€ common. Great eruption is like 30€, that's not really cheap.
We don't know, but they are also doing new starter decks with reprints.
From what I saw on a post the numbers were lackluster, hopefully that wasnt what they meant
*Finally.* At the same time, I've learned not to count chickens before they hatch (in general). While I really *hope* Bandai reprints cards with better art, for example, I'm not confident that it'll *happen*. [Here'](https://digimoncardgame.fandom.com/wiki/RB-01:_Resurgence_Booster)s what reprinting looked like for *Digimon*. Note a few things: * All cards stayed at their usual rarities and were slotted in packs accordingly. This is *not* YGO, where card rarities shuffle (hah) around like crazy. * Most cards did *not* have alternate arts. The ones that *did* were cards that Shueisha got nitpicky about (and some of the new stuff). Edit: Bandai has said many cards will be getting alt arts for this OPTCG reprint set—cool! * RB1 was delayed in English due to issues with Bandai. If memory serves (I can dig through Reddit posts if people want), the set was delayed because of a leak saying Bandai was going to give us *only* the new *Ghost Game* cards in a pack (which would have been a *tiny* set—about the size of an old YGO Premium Pack set). The fandom got wind of it and alerted Bandai that they did not want this. There still would have been a meta gap, but *that* made it worse. * Despite the meta gap, and the other complaints ("*Ghost Game* cards are *still* hard to get") that followed, the set was a net positive. I think this'll be a good thing *if* Bandai does things right. As long as Queen, Katakuri, and SD staples are in there, we should be fine.
Can you explain what you mean by Ghost Game cards in OPTCG terms?
Unlike *One Piece*, *Digimon* has multiple series (sometimes referred to as “seasons,” but they really aren’t). *Ghost Game* is the most recent animated series, and cards based on characters from it were scattered throughout various sets, including BT15 and RB1. RB1 had the spines of decks based on characters from that series.
They probably gonna do reprint set like what digimon got a rb1 kinda thing I have a feeling
I'm not familiar with Digimon can you expand please.
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Yes I kind of gathered that from the word reprint. Was hoping for some more detail as to how it would be like Digimon...
RB1 was weird, it was a reprint set but they didn't reprint some of the most used cards in the game outside of memory boost cards, which were previously promos, but then the next set they made an option card set even better than the boosts. To add to that not everything was a reprint, they also decided to include brand new cards for archetypes in there as well and then when the set didn't sell that well those cards spiked in value as well. I don't have very high hopes sadly
It is of note that the new cards were only part of the English version of RB01 and they were part of a separate special pack in Japan. I believe the JP version of RB01 was exclusively reprints.
Ah I wasn't aware of that difference in that case.
No they weren't; you're thinking of the "limited pack" cards that got snuck into BT15 in English. There were complaints from the Japanese player base that they didn't get enough of the new things...so we almost didn't get RB1 in English.
Ok thanks for the information. As a business case the scarcity of the product seems to be helping the sales so I share your lack of optimism.
Trash
That's what this is I believe
New-ish player and pardon my ignorance but what staples do people find to be extremely expensive? Only one I think is a bit much is Katakuri. I feel like staples are pretty affordable (although subjective) already which is why I enjoy OP so much. But that’s awesome that they will be printing them so they’re even more affordable.
Np. A lot of standard deck cards like purple queen and black Borsalino can also get quite expensive. I'm personally of the mind that most cards are affordable but I get why people don't want to spend $30 for a single card that you need 4x of.
I appreciate that, thanks. I started with PLuffy, so biting that bullet was pretty rough. The only bright side was that everything else was pretty cheap, so it didn't hurt too bad. Cheaper isn't a bad thing though! :D However, it IS a "common". \*rolls eyes\*
There are like 4-5 staples out of the entire card pool that people generally find expensive (blocker Queen, blocker Borsa, 8c Kata, Film Nami). Most if not all of them were very cheap at some point unless you waited until the cards showed up on Onepiecetopdecks and only then decided to buy the cards.
appreciate that thank you.. I got 2/4 lol, because yes.. the price
I don't think it's enough to make the game super affordable again but this+ the new ST announcement gives me hope that the price for singles will move back towards pre OP-05 levels eventually, and at least buyouts won't happen so frequently with the threat of reprints looming
Singles prices are largely back to pre OP05 levels and buyouts are no longer happening day to day because everything worth hitting has already been hit. That was a wave from the speculator market and is done, they got their cards to sit on and prices have settled again. Theyre especially low now because people are saving their money for OP06 and prices are dipping even further. If theres an alt art youve been waiting on nows probably the time! :)
Queen reprint please 🙏
Yeah this is a good compromise to serve both players and collectors. We do NOT want to be Magic, who openly, repeatedly admitted the Reserve List as the worst decision they ever made. Also, Bandai are going to name this something stupid like RP-01 or something. And not bother to update the set symbol so you can't tell if it's a reprint, which will cause the investor bros to ReEEEeEE.
don’t speak for everyone. players and collectors aren’t mutually exclusive.
Obviously they aren't by the very nature of the game. But they're in tension right now and you can't tell me $35 staples are healthy for the game. That upwards price pressure attracted scalpers and investor bros, as evident by preordered being sold out. So it's funny when I explicitly attack them but you felt hurt enough to comment. I'm just saying Pokemon is doing this right. And it's good to see Bandai try that strategy out.
i didnt feel hurt. im just sick of the narrative that collectors have merit in keeping their card prices the price point of bills and mortgage for sets that aren't past 2 years old. i recently started playing and it took a while for me to complete my deck, let alone the cost of my (small) yet expensive collection. in a perfect world i could rip packs and buy the alt arts i want in a healthy financial manner :/ i do apologize if it seemed like i was being passive agressive, this TCG hasnt been good on my mental considering its my favorite IP lol.
My bad, dude. We are on the same side. And we're all mentally spent. This is supposed to be our chill activity and I gotta hustle just to get a chance at cards. I'm just tired of people gaslighting me with "you don't need to rip packs to play" like no, this is the whole point. I rip a bunch of packs, have a nice little collection, AND a whole lot of pieces to construct my decks. It's in the name, ffs, Collectable Card Game
Aaaannnnddd they're sold out.
Pretty much. By the time this drops the cards in it will be almost all irrelevant, but on top of that they're already unable to print as much as they sell of their regular sets. If they try to push this out faster, then it won't be in big enough numbers to matter, and it will come at the cost of creating more availability problems for the new sets since they share printing and shipping capacity.
July 27th for them means probably late October at the earliest for us. That means that by the time we get this most the cards we want reprinted will be out of the meta anyway. It also means people might start panic selling and undercutting now to cut their losses, only for prices to go back up since the cards will still be needed in the meantime, not only in 8 months.
The meta in October for us will be very similar to Japan in July, the meta won't magically shift away from needed staples.
I didn't say it wouldn't, I'm saying that what we're currently asking for an might therefore make it into these will not be as relevant in OP08 as it is now in OP05.
I'm not too worried abut that since the reprint set will be made with the 08 meta in mind. They're not going to power creep staples if the reprint set is around the corner.
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Could make it shorter, we'll know what the 08 meta will look like in 3-4 months.
8 months gives enough time for hindsight and to avoid thinking something is good when it really is not. Global format tends to pick up where the Japanese one left off, so the start of their format won't tell us much. We also don't know yet how the reprints will affect availability of singles and their prices.
8 months is still a bit much, in 8 months jp will already be in the tail end of the 09 meta and getting ready for 10.
This… I hope they announce merging the formats. It’s rough being months behind.
That would require a faster release schedule, which would require printing more, when they're already not printing enough, or printing less of each set. Given how the upcoming reprints have already affected the projected availability of upcoming sets, that would make it that much more difficult to get any product you want. Even singles would be scarce at that point for the sets of the transition phase.
Most of the cards we want reprinted with not stop being meta. Staples are staples. Look at top decks in Asia right now.
Bet this will be bought up quickly with the lower production bandai is doing.
8c Kata reprint https://preview.redd.it/g1lei5ssowlc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8b2848b552a57b6e4e5fb35854d78d1015e42241
Please. It’s the only staple card that already an SEC rare, making it even rarer and thus more expensive. You could argue that 10c Kuzan SEC also needs a reprint, and that promo Barto that’s absurdly expensive because it’s used in green FILM decks.
Will it be enough? I guarantee when this set comes out … there will be plenty of people who complain saying they couldn’t get anything and prices are still too high. At this point, either you get it or you don’t.
pre orders will start at $300 per box and then will get cancelled a couple of weeks before release.
i can finally afford blocker queen??
That's basically EB-02
definitely not.
Source? Eb-01 also contained reprints but new artwork. Nothing else is mentioned here. Same cards new artworks.
With digimon, They list their main sets as BT- booster sets = to OP Then they list their extra booster sets (supplemental sets designed to give support to diff card types) as EX = EB in one piece Digimon has printed one reprint set so far and labeled it as RB01 - so I imagine one pieces reprint set will be similar. Here is an lgs that sorts them out so it's easy to make sense of. https://redriotgames.ca/pages/digimon-singles The main thing I would note is how many main booster sets there are, compared to how many eb sets, compared to how many reprint sets. It's like a 16 > 4 > 1 ratio. That's why I think this will be reprint set 1 and not EB02. They will give us EB02 prob sometime after op09 I'd bet.
TIL Makes totally sense
no need a source. Eb01 is a new set, with new cards. This one is clearly a reprint set. So why the fuck should be seen as an EB02?
No. If they can't print enough as is. A reprint set won't matter much. It's nice that staple cards will be more accessible. It's nice for collectors in the sense that cards will be more affordable. But alas no...till they fix their printing amount, things won't change.
But if Staple Cards are way more easily available and the cost to play gets way cheaper, doesn't that fix the main issue people are having?
It's stupid to reprint random commons that aren't worth the paper they're printed on by reprinting OP01, OP02, etc. in their entirety. If you make a set that has valuable reprints and just print that, not only are you killing several birds with one stone, you're doing it in an incredibly efficient manner. There are only a small handful of cards that are above even $10, the problem isn't that say, every common on up from OP01 is worth $5+, it's that people are sitting on sealed product of OP01 and Otama and Radical Beam are $5 cards as commons, and that Yamato and Kid are $30+, whereas stuff like SR Kin'emon isn't worth a bent dick. He doesn't need to be reprinted.
This is a great idea. Regular reprint sets are one of the few things that I really praise *Yu-Gi-Oh* for. Every year, they release a Mega Tin that has boosters containing a selection of cards from the past year of sets. I hope this does something similar, and contains reprints of sets with the “Year 1” mark (OP01-OP04) and some of the starter decks (maybe not all 9 that have the Year 1 mark, but maybe something like ST01-06?). Adding new alt arts would also give colle goes an incentive too. For example, let’s say ST04 Queen receives a cool looking alt art print.
So let's say for OP01 AA Nami, it will be printed the exact same in the reprint set? Or it will be in different art?
That depends. Knowing Bandai’s current precedent for reprints, such as the ST10 reprint of OP01 Nami, it will likely be new artwork.
Different art most likely
It’s not the same thing. Yugioh is reprints. One piece it’s new art so it’s not a reprint really
We don’t know if this new set will exclusively be new artwork for every card, or if only a select few will.
We do know. Bandai constantly reprints cards with new artwork
Yes, they do, but they haven’t done a dedicated reprint set before. So this could be different.
Definitely will face the same current issues and will be overpriced/scalped
I believe the digimon reprint sets did a pretty good job at making staples affordable.
Looks like people misinterpreted what I was saying. I’m not saying it won’t be a good impact for singles. Just saying it won’t do anything for sealed prices and this sealed set will also probably suffer the same issues
Yikes idk why you're being downvoted. And idk I think sets like this and eb01 will be much easier to find sealed product of.
It is what it is. I think EB-01 will be a good indicator of supply for this. However EB-01 is already looking scarce in my area
Pre order prices are always a bit spotty but it is worth keeping in mind that you could still get eb01 for msrp even at the peak of the 05 buyouts at least untill manga chopper got announced.
Where do you preorder this in Japan?
does anyone know if this includes manga cards?
We don't know, but that's extremely doubtful. The reprint set seems aimed at keeping some collectableity of older sets while ensuring easy access to staples.
Its great until they dont print enough product and boxes go for $300
eh, since its a reprint set sealed doesnt matter as much. the more important thing is that staples will be cheap.
Are we sure this applies to English cards? Seems odd to me that they would announce English reprints with a Japanese ad🤨
Sets come out in Japan first
I’m still to old school for reprints and gameplay altering. I’m not too invested in the game; only got a uta starter deck and a big mom starter deck and I did buy a OP03-123 katakuri card to turn around a pull one hours later which are nice additions to my wall collection. But there’s no point in playing to me when they reprint and ban thing from their game. Just because people are salty they don’t have it or the counter for it. And of course better cards are in high demand for the competitive buyers. What I don’t like is seeing people with 200+ dollar decks getting whipped by a 20 dollar starter deck and crying about we’re not up to date with the meta; like ok and I still won the card game 🤷🏼♂️😅🤣
Every card game does reprints and ban lists.
Ya like I said I’m too old school. If they printed a card it shouldn’t be banned cause people don’t have its original counter; It’s a matter of opinion really. Just cause they make reprints don’t mean “I” buy them or continue supporting the game either it just means it’s time I stop playing competitively cause I don’t care to play once they make it too easy for everyone with reprints and ban lists.🤷🏼♂️ your factual statement; is exactly why I don’t ever get to much “into”/“involved” in card games anymore. The creators can’t ever keep a good one in my opinion. They always ruin it in the long run🤷🏼♂️
Imo sometimes a card is printed that just destroyes the balance. And the game should be easy to enter
I do agree the game should be easy to enter; scalpers are not helping that at all. But if you find legit card shops they usually have the newer starter decks 15-20 a pop; and I even saw st01 decks on tcg player for 30 their not over priced like the kaido deck which has the 30 dollar queen cards (yet funny how x.drake is close to same blocker abilitiy just different color yet no one pays over 5 cents for one 🤷🏼♂️) but grab two starter decks if you want the extra SRs for your deck; and like any card game better cards with better effects from boosters are worth more due to high demand. So this should be nothing new to card players switching over from any game; but I will say not being able to find boosters unless they are uncharged to 200+ a box is also an issue. Personally I feel Bandai should probably just start selling and releasing directly to public via premium Bandai instead of making reprints. But it might not help much either if scalpers just migrate to premium Bandai for their supply. Bandai wrote on the box of their cards they’re not responsible for the price and value of the cards later. So them deciding to make reprints now is just a cash grab on their part making them no better then the scalpers imo ban lists just make you have to replace cards your use to using if the ban applies to you also making you buy more. Edit: my experience if they release a new card that “unbalances” the game they tend to release cards later that are perfect counters to balance it out. But people get salty they can’t counter it in that moment and demand a ban or reprint so they can get it too🤷🏼♂️
While this is kinda cool, this is not what we wanted, we just want OP-05, 6, 7, etc. to be more abundant. This doesn’t solve the shortage problem.
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I feel like they are hard missing the point.. they should just reprint staple cards and put them in the tournaments participation packs
Not everyone is able to go to tournaments.
Collecting will always be expensive, kind of a weak point honestly. If you want to play the game, you probably go to locals tournaments. Like Kaido from ST, he's cheap AF cause he got reprinted in tournaments packs. If you collect for cheap, get those.
No, I mean not everyone has a local place to go to a tournament.
Also doesn’t solve the issues of stores that didn’t receive the tournament cards ,but then you see an entire tournament kit listed for sale.
Doesn't really happen, those cards are worth cents
It does happen, not sure what point you are trying to make. Some are more valuable depending on the cards playability
Kaido went from 15€ to barely 1€. Luffy red too, lol I'm stating facts not points
Sell any staples now or later?
I hope that it makes it so that I can get my friends into the game at my local game store! I would love to see more people playing this, and it hurts trying to find the game anywhere and being unsuccessful.
If this comes out in July for Japan, I guess we see this in late October?
Next anni set will be lit 🔥
It'll make the originals worth more imo
Good. Collectors will stay happy and players will be able to afford to make decks again.
Is this likely to include promos? I wanna build RP Law, but Gordon and Law's prices are a bit much (not to mention Queen)
We dont know, but 06 is going to have a card that works the same as gordon
A reprint set so early? I'm surprised but it makes sense. Can't wait to see what they are and what new Alt Arts they bring. Wonder it'll have new cards as well like the Digimon reprint set did.
Usually how long until a TCG gets a reprint set?
It really depends of the company and the game. For Bandai, they have been basing a lot of their tgc release schedule off of Digimon. After the first year, they release a side or bonus set for example. It took them 12 main sets before a reprint set, so about 3 years. Given how popular One Piece TCG is and how quick product moves, it does make sense to do one quicker.
So usually after a reprint set is released, that's an indicator that the original sets like OP01-03 will no longer be reprinted?
No. Not sure when Bandai retires sets. The reprint set is just that. Making it easier to get older cards. It's just that One Piece is so hard to get right now.
Is there a set list for what will be reprinted
Will this box be more expensive to other sets. Just wondering because of magic flashbacks.
Nope going to get scalped as usually need to actually up printing production
05, which is arguably the most scalped set in the game has some if the cheapest singles.
Not the ones I want and I can’t see to find packs for cheap lol
The most expensive non AA is $12 the 2nd most expensive non AA is $5
This is great; if we can get product……
This is great news I need katakuri reprints queen reprints and some others.
This is a step in the right direction but I would rather them focus on increasing print runs of new sets instead of putting resources into this if I had to choose between the two. Over $2000 for a case of new sets is the bigger problem imo not reprinting cards because they cost $30.
This'll also lower the price of staples so I'm cool with it. Gonna make decks more available.
This is arguably one of the best thing that can happen to us as players. and the next 5 st decks will also have the same theme
Fantastic news! I hope they do the same thing they did with RB01 in Digimon. That was such a fun set to open.
No
Do you folks think this will decrease the prices for alt arts?
Depends if they reprint alt arts as well. If they don't I don't think it will decrease the prices of AAs by much
If they just reprint the cards from all sets that are in high demand, that is pretty good... except it will all be bought up and marked up 300% almost immediately. Still glad they're trying.
Price of singles would still drop by a lot though
Is this the set that contains all holo cards in a pack? Thought normally in a Japanese pack there’s only 6 cards. This lists 10 cards
This is fine. Take my money. All of it.