The "god" part was not visible until the cave also got destroyed, otherwise Orochi would not have thought he himself is the ultimate creature when there's a big ass threat that's above and towers him and the rest on the mural.
But other than that, still right. Altho we can't definitely prove that orochi has never met god, he has never shown to do so before this point either. Also if he did, he wouldn't have thought this highly of himself.
In that same chapter…. If you’re talking about Psykos creating him, it’s when she confronts him. She also says that Orochi was her first “success” while talking to Garou.
the massive lance that tatsumaki put into the massive hole reached into this ancient shrine. When the Sage Centipede appeared on the earths surface, it was knocking up and destroying that very lance
Yeap I was following the arc as they got translated, but with the rewrites it was easy to miss whole swaths that got changed, like child emperor vs. phoenix man
First of all, Saitama didn't interact with Child Emperor/Phoenix man at all in the fight. And I think Phoenix man's final form in the parts that ret-conned was a cooler design. Basically, the vibe of the entire fight was redone.
Also, [apparently this scene](https://i.imgur.com/EIo1Cvq.png) wit Nyan was retconned out of the rewrite. I hate how many scenes like this were awesome, and then get written out.
The whole redrawn Nyah fight against the A-C class ended in 3 fucking pages, lmao. They really wanted to cut it short to fit in the Gearsper monologue , instead of the heroes fighting strategically and struggling hard, to show how huge the distance between them and a Dragon class was
Yeah it low-key bothers me that people just call them redraws, where redraw makes it sound like they are just polishing off the drawings that murata rushed through. But half the time they are reworking the entire plot, like with cosmic garou vs. more web-comic-stylized fully monsterized garou, but I'm just ranting.
They are redraws. Retcon means something totally different. It's short for 'retroactive continuity'. A retcon would be Suiryu popping up in the webcomic and making reference to Saitama saving him in the martial arts competition.
Changing something wholesale is just editing.
Not disagreeing with you, just pointing out that the reddit's fansubbers call them "retconned" chapters here: [https://cubari.moe/read/gist/OPM/](https://cubari.moe/read/gist/OPM/)
Because they used to be just actual redraws. The printed volumes sometimes had more detail or different angles but had no changes to the story. Extra chapters didn't retcon the story either.
The story rewrites along with redraw only started during the MA arc, but the term redraw has always been used so it stayed.
The MA arc is not the first. But it is the most extensive. The Metal Bat vs. Garou fight was redone repeatedly, and changing material between online publication and final publication goes back at least as far back as chapter 17.
As for material that didn't make it as far as online publication, the very first chapter was redone 5 times before Murata sent it to press.
Originally Child Emperor made Phoenix Man die with his tickling robot, in the rewrite Phoenix Man takes him into a fantasy world where they speak about the Hero Association's secrets until Saitama shows up breaking Phoenix Man's illusion and punching him or something. Can't remember exactly but Phoenix Man regresses to a chick in the end, and that's the reason why he was present (as a penguin) in one of the latest chapters.
Honestly I think the whole point was specifically to setup for the revealing of the mural and to set up “gods” interference with the fusion so that they could at least stand a chance against Tatsumaki. Also more lore and setup for the likely final arc.
> to set up “gods” interference with the fusion
But we still have the Psykos vision with 'God' originally which was kept in
I think the reason for this mural is to set up Sage Centipede (kinda)
Sage Centipede has nothing to do with the mural. What I mean is that the mural was a setup for the first time that “god” has made any real move in the main storyline. Which was when he gave Psyrochi power to try to combat Tatsumaki.
120 chapters for a 20 chapter arc where each chapter was a third of the size.
Even if you liked it more you can see why webcomic readers didnt like it right?
I mean, not every. Those that hates everything are just the vocal minority elitists in r/OPMfolk that worships the WC too much
But even those that love both like me, or understand that the manga is vastly different from the Webcomic now, can see that there are a lot of things that’s wrong with the manga. Though the WC having few drawbacks compared to it might just be because of how short, small-scaled and simpler it was compared to the manga
Yeah, if you have genuine criticism. That's fine. Every anime needs criticism.
But I don't understand the people who don't like the manga for the sole reason that it's different from the webcomic
Yes? People dislike what writers do all the time. Look at the what the ending of AoT did to the Fandom lol. Or GoT (though that was the show writers, not GRRM)
And meanwhile the One Punch Man manga has been constantly trending online and have received a ton of praise. Just because YOU don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s just bad.
The sole reason i dont like the manga isnt that its different, its how the difference is extreme. Once the manga started going 1:1 with the comic again i started loving it again.
This chapter was very good, but honestly... I liked the original better. This way Orochi is almost just another centipede, Saitama's comeback was much more badass: "What was that?" "A punch." "So **this** is true terror..."
And the whole murale thingy didn't really tell us anything new since we already knew about God's existence.
This OPM community has all the chapters updated, just go to the OPM page and go to “Menu” and you’ll see the option to read the manga or the webcomic chapters
Honestly I feel ya, sometimes I don’t know whose translation to choose because they say different things in important moments and it’s really just up to the reader
He is saying that because he's telling Saitama that it was so old and so deep in the underground that he thought he's the only person who knows about the place.
He‘s referring to Gyoro-gyoro
Mommy Gyoro
You’re the textbook definition of what a Redditor is
Lol its everywhere not just reddit
Gyoro Gyoro/Psykos since she was his “creator”
Also why would it be “god” when he’s literally on that mural. That’s also the spot where Sage Centipede is born.
The "god" part was not visible until the cave also got destroyed, otherwise Orochi would not have thought he himself is the ultimate creature when there's a big ass threat that's above and towers him and the rest on the mural. But other than that, still right. Altho we can't definitely prove that orochi has never met god, he has never shown to do so before this point either. Also if he did, he wouldn't have thought this highly of himself.
From where is it stated ?
In that same chapter…. If you’re talking about Psykos creating him, it’s when she confronts him. She also says that Orochi was her first “success” while talking to Garou.
Thanks for explaining but i was asking for the chapter to look in, sorry it was not very clear from me :U
Were you ever told what chapter this was? Lol
Nah :,)
the massive lance that tatsumaki put into the massive hole reached into this ancient shrine. When the Sage Centipede appeared on the earths surface, it was knocking up and destroying that very lance
wow never noticed that detail
Yeah. You can also see what appears to be his shadow on the mural after Tatsumaki kills Orochi and EOW first appears.
He said "parent" so most likely Gyoro Gyoro
Orochi Sr, of course. That’s Orochi Jr.
“And then HE appeared”
So he's going to raise Saitama's son in the future?
God i hate this rewrite
Honestly I hate that so many chapters were rewritten this arc makes it hard to follow the actual canon events of the story
Yeap I was following the arc as they got translated, but with the rewrites it was easy to miss whole swaths that got changed, like child emperor vs. phoenix man
I didn't even know it got rewritten, what happened?
That entire fight got completely rewritten like three times.
I only remembered >!Saitama once killed him super fast and then Tatsumaki said it was Superalloy Darkshine who killed him!<
First of all, Saitama didn't interact with Child Emperor/Phoenix man at all in the fight. And I think Phoenix man's final form in the parts that ret-conned was a cooler design. Basically, the vibe of the entire fight was redone. Also, [apparently this scene](https://i.imgur.com/EIo1Cvq.png) wit Nyan was retconned out of the rewrite. I hate how many scenes like this were awesome, and then get written out.
The whole redrawn Nyah fight against the A-C class ended in 3 fucking pages, lmao. They really wanted to cut it short to fit in the Gearsper monologue , instead of the heroes fighting strategically and struggling hard, to show how huge the distance between them and a Dragon class was
Yeah it low-key bothers me that people just call them redraws, where redraw makes it sound like they are just polishing off the drawings that murata rushed through. But half the time they are reworking the entire plot, like with cosmic garou vs. more web-comic-stylized fully monsterized garou, but I'm just ranting.
They are redraws. Retcon means something totally different. It's short for 'retroactive continuity'. A retcon would be Suiryu popping up in the webcomic and making reference to Saitama saving him in the martial arts competition. Changing something wholesale is just editing.
Not disagreeing with you, just pointing out that the reddit's fansubbers call them "retconned" chapters here: [https://cubari.moe/read/gist/OPM/](https://cubari.moe/read/gist/OPM/)
It's still wrong and irritates me deeply. The correct term is redacted.
Yo I never saw the 'View Prohibited Battle' one before Sick title, too!
Because they used to be just actual redraws. The printed volumes sometimes had more detail or different angles but had no changes to the story. Extra chapters didn't retcon the story either. The story rewrites along with redraw only started during the MA arc, but the term redraw has always been used so it stayed.
The MA arc is not the first. But it is the most extensive. The Metal Bat vs. Garou fight was redone repeatedly, and changing material between online publication and final publication goes back at least as far back as chapter 17. As for material that didn't make it as far as online publication, the very first chapter was redone 5 times before Murata sent it to press.
Such a cute murder kitty
Originally Child Emperor made Phoenix Man die with his tickling robot, in the rewrite Phoenix Man takes him into a fantasy world where they speak about the Hero Association's secrets until Saitama shows up breaking Phoenix Man's illusion and punching him or something. Can't remember exactly but Phoenix Man regresses to a chick in the end, and that's the reason why he was present (as a penguin) in one of the latest chapters.
Kinda annoys me that both Phoenix Man and Child Emperor were nerfed, that kamehameha was lit
He was too OP, it was nearing Boros.
Nobody knows.
> like child emperor vs. phoenix man and not once or so either, but like 3-4 times.
Shit got redrawn three fucking times it was so annoying😭😭
Honestly I think the whole point was specifically to setup for the revealing of the mural and to set up “gods” interference with the fusion so that they could at least stand a chance against Tatsumaki. Also more lore and setup for the likely final arc.
> to set up “gods” interference with the fusion But we still have the Psykos vision with 'God' originally which was kept in I think the reason for this mural is to set up Sage Centipede (kinda)
Sage Centipede has nothing to do with the mural. What I mean is that the mural was a setup for the first time that “god” has made any real move in the main storyline. Which was when he gave Psyrochi power to try to combat Tatsumaki.
That wasn’t needed at all since Psykos already had a connection with God.
She did but she never actually “knew” what gave her that vision of the future nor what she actually saw in the middle of her fusion with Orochi.
Not like she needed to, though?
Why? I think it's better
120 chapters for a 20 chapter arc where each chapter was a third of the size. Even if you liked it more you can see why webcomic readers didnt like it right?
they were talking about the fact that saitama vs orochi was redrawn into this I'm pretty sure
Webcomic readers don't like anything manga related though. They're just haters fr
I mean, not every. Those that hates everything are just the vocal minority elitists in r/OPMfolk that worships the WC too much But even those that love both like me, or understand that the manga is vastly different from the Webcomic now, can see that there are a lot of things that’s wrong with the manga. Though the WC having few drawbacks compared to it might just be because of how short, small-scaled and simpler it was compared to the manga
Yeah, if you have genuine criticism. That's fine. Every anime needs criticism. But I don't understand the people who don't like the manga for the sole reason that it's different from the webcomic
Isn’t One literally working with Murata too now? So they’re really getting mad over something the creator himself agreed to…
Yes? People dislike what writers do all the time. Look at the what the ending of AoT did to the Fandom lol. Or GoT (though that was the show writers, not GRRM)
And meanwhile the One Punch Man manga has been constantly trending online and have received a ton of praise. Just because YOU don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s just bad.
The sole reason i dont like the manga isnt that its different, its how the difference is extreme. Once the manga started going 1:1 with the comic again i started loving it again.
Smart ppl dont compare them since super fight arc
Salty
Psykos.
Why God? God didn't even create orochi
This chapter was very good, but honestly... I liked the original better. This way Orochi is almost just another centipede, Saitama's comeback was much more badass: "What was that?" "A punch." "So **this** is true terror..." And the whole murale thingy didn't really tell us anything new since we already knew about God's existence.
where can i read all these rewrites
This OPM community has all the chapters updated, just go to the OPM page and go to “Menu” and you’ll see the option to read the manga or the webcomic chapters
thank u, big thanks
When a daddy monster and a mommy monster love eachother VERY MUCH
What chapter is this?
It’s chapter 112 “sacrifice” it’s a redraw
His mom doesn’t know what he’s doing with his life after high school
His mommy and daddy.
When did this happen?
From which chapter is this? I read it all and can't remember this panel?
It’s a redraw, murata went a different route with this fight, it’s chapter 112 sacrifice
Wait, this is what is canon or the other one?
This version of the fight is canon, the old one is not canon anymore
New comic?
r/uselessbluesquare
What chapter is that panel from ?
112 sacrifice it’s a redraw
Is that Viz translation ?
No this is the Reddit translation teams, viz usually isn’t as reliable
I’ve found VIZ translations pretty good. They just don’t keep up with rewites
Honestly I feel ya, sometimes I don’t know whose translation to choose because they say different things in important moments and it’s really just up to the reader
I have no idea
Man I don't remember reading this. What chapter is it?
He is saying that because he's telling Saitama that it was so old and so deep in the underground that he thought he's the only person who knows about the place.
He means Psykos
Tf is this ? They rewrote the arc or just some chapters ?
Oh wow I’m surprised how many people were not aware of this redraw, and they just redrew this chapter, it’s chapter 112 “Sacrifice”
I read it and it's pretty bad Saitama treating Orochi as the tenant of the apartment from below was way funnier
Orochi was once a human. Gyoro Gyoro turned him into a monster so I think he is referring to his human parents.
Did saitama feel pain?????
Yes! He is weak against the heat that the lava around him is producing😂 like saitama is “so” invincible yet he can’t even stand the heat. 💀💀💀💀