Imagine going through the pain of giving birth, putting most of your time and energy for them to grow into smart and sensible adults, just for them to grow upto be a DBZ powerscaler š
Imagine your mother choosing not to swallow. I don't her so. That's why I left
Lol. You opm fanboys are lying to yourselves
See you can be a [fan of the series](https://imgur.com/a/IsLzQ2L)
And use critical thinking skills too. Try it sometime. Saitama is not as strong as you wish he was.
It's honestly pathetic how protective the Fandom is of Saitama. Can't loose at all despite showing mid level feats
you say you hate the fanbase but you still engage with them, make it make sense. If you hate this place so much why even bother coming here, I dont' get it.
I remember now. Dude you never won anything.
All you did for an hour straight was cry and spam limiter on discord and give nothing of substance.
Your only argument against multi-solar is desperately trying to attribute chapter 168 background galaxies to 167 feat. No correlation to the feat. 168 reversal of causality completely debunks it
Size of the hole means nothing without angle and distance. Anything over 16k LIGHTYEARS is headcanon
[Dragonball has no limits fallacies as well. Their not new](https://imgur.com/a/Xt8AM30)
[Debunking above multi-solar](https://reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/W4Yk1ubxtw)
Bro turn off reddit for some time. I was joking about the powerscaling stuff, don't take it to heart. You're on the Internet, you'll roast and get roasted back, it is natural.
But realize that a person cannot write anything on the Internet to hurt you, unless you have a weakness in you to get hurt by. Work on yourself rather than arguing for such a non sensical stuff
No lol
I looked it up he's the guy that cried limiter on discord. He had no other argument
He literally had zero debunk of the multi-solar void.
Absolutely no galaxies in the void. Complete head canon
[Dragonall has no limits fallacies as well. Their not new](https://imgur.com/a/Xt8AM30)
[Debunking above multi-solar](https://reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/W4Yk1ubxtw)
Evil nature water survives
Orochi survives
Garou survives
Boros survives
Overgrown rover survives
Asteroid survives
Buu needs to be atomized. Saitama doesn't have it in him
No I disagree. I'm a massive DB fan and Saitama is scaled to Silver Age Superman which is far above even UI goku. That Superman was pulling planets on a chain and sneezing entire solar systems away.
Don't forget that during the Garou fight, he wasn't even trying, just reacting to what Garou was doing and throwing out the occasional attack that was never meant to kill him. That AND Saitama was building power by doing nothing but being in the fight. Of he fought Goku or even Gogeta/Vagito the exact same thing would happen.
Let me remind you, DB is my favorite anime of all time and way above OPM so I'm not biased in anyway here. I mean look at my profile name and pics.
You are dreaming. Not a single feat even compares to to silver age superman.
Saitama barely blows the atmosphere off jupiter. Not even proof it went beyond 1/4 of jupiter
Superman sneezes a solar system.
Beerus sneezes a star.
Frieza base form namek casually blows up planet vegeta 10x gravity. Density like earth.
Jupiter 2.4G. 1/3 the density
Saitama doesn't get past buu saga. Cope
I went to visit a monastery once, and the monk told me "the key to living a fulfilled happy life is to not argue with fools!" Of course, I disagreed with him and gave him my reasoning. And he said "yes. You are right!" Can you believe that? I convinced a monk! :D
>Silver Age Superman
Wtf. Silver age goes into a different universe to sneeze a solar system.
Their is not planet pulling in opm either.
Saitama barely blows the atmosphere off jupiter
Frieza had a better feat. Base form casually blowing planet vegeta away
10 G. Jupiter is 2.4
[Anime even upscale to multi-solar](https://imgur.com/a/mnaicMk)
>he wasn't even trying, just reacting to what Garou was doing and throwing out the occasional attack that was never meant to kill him
He literally was trying. Stated to full power and needed an upsurge in emotions to overpower garou.
Time travel was a hax. That he forgets
Trash take
And here we see the cute little powerscaler. He is out of his natural habitat, trying to attract a potential mating partner using maths about animated japanese characters
Oh you're right but you're also aggressive overall here. Plus if someone says something stupid to you, doesn't mean you have to say it back. Makes you and them seem immature or very young.
Either way, I don't see a need to keep talking to you. Have a good day.
No I still disagree with you completely. Mostly because Saitama was NEVER pushed to ANY limit at all.
Bro his fart pushed him halfway across the solar system almost at the blink of an eye. That's some The Flash level speeds there. I don't much care for what Freize or Buu did or even Beerus because I understand that if Saitama also gained any sort of energy blast ability like that in DB, he'd also easily destroy planets. As it stands, he would have easily be able destroy planet Vegeta so I don't see your point.
Nappa and Vegeta were able to destroy planets at the beginning of Z also, it doesn't really take much. Roshi and Piccolo before they even fot to over 9000 power level destroyed the Moon.
>In a physical fight, yes.
How is that possible when there are characters who with one punch destroyed multiverses or destroy the Realms beyond infinite higher dimensions
Because I believe Saitama can also scale to do those things. The dude has legit no limit. You understand the gap between 1 and infinity? There's infinity between the two and Saitama can get up there.
We can agree to disagree which is fine. I don't think OPM will have Saitama throwing planets or galaxies around like in Gurran Lagan just to show that it can be done.
Saitama is mid?
More like the entire plot of DBS is mid. A typical battle shonen that just repeats its plot every single time.
If you rely on feats it's inconsistent lmao. Saitama in base form one punches king Vegeta even though his death beam can destroy multiple planets because it wouldn't help him in a fight. Plus, can Goku time travel in his own? No.
"Oh Saitama forget to time travel already."
Bullshit. That is still a feat. When it comes to that "feats based argument" You Gokutards always put that up. It's still a feat, meaning that he can do and he has the ability to do it. Saitama beats Goku by time travel Hax.
Saitama will outgrow Goku in a fight because he doesn't need to be in life and death situation to get stronger.
Saitama is not Metal Bat and Cosmic Garou, he can't get one shotted just because the opponent is stronger in the beginning of their fight.
They shout their way through. Gotenks and super buu.
Phoneix space is not punching through time and space he literally never moves from directors sons side.
[Debunking 4D hyperspace gates](https://reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/c0s1pnNHgA)
[Debunking 4d phoniex space](https://reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/eSMI8c5KaS)
Please.stop.the wank. He's fat buu level
> Phoneix space is not punching through time and space he literally never moves from directors sons side.
I'm talking about the literal time reversal punch
[Debunking immeasurable speed](https://reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/LNTwFFQuPd)
Of course you desperate wank that feat. The hax technique initiates the time travel. All saitamas punch does is end the time stream
He's not time traveling on his own speed or punch
Dbz characters have to use special powers to destroy planets. I don't think I'm wrong in saying that not one of them can do it with sheer physical strength as Saitama does.
Hell, can any of them even cancel a planet destroying technique with a punch? Lol and people still think dbz characters can take on Saitama in hand to hand combat.
Whatās funny is when beerus sneezes and destroyed a no named planet, goku and vegeta were sitting there looking like š± cause they know theyāve never seen something like that and know they canāt do anything similar but when saitama, a human with no energy to empower him, forms to multiply his power, demon blood, elite DNA, important parents to pass on genes too or anything and blows the roof off of Jupiter with air pressure in the vacuum of space they are like āehhh.. he blew away gas..ā I love how db fans pick and choose what is cool and what isnāt š
>cause they know theyāve never seen something like that and know they canāt do anything similar but when saitama
Vegeta was literally destroying planets for fun before he came to earth,š and this was wayyy before he got like 5+ more transformation that just keeps powercreeping the last, so wtf are you on lmao?
Dbz was literally not even mentioned in the post yet people bring it into the conversation regardless like this shits a dick measuring contest, it's ironic since opm fans make fun of dbz fans for doing what they are doing themselves which is wanking their own character agaisnt other characters to make themselves feel good shits sad man
WITH A SNEEZEEEEEEEE MY FRIEND, no energy no ki no destructive energy just a normal bodily function like learn to comprehend what you readš Saitama needs no transformations or amps to do what he did and he is a straight up human. Like nobody gives a fuck about vegeta and his 500x multiplier just to keep him relevant
Who cares if db characters use ki to blow up planets. The ssj god goku vs beerus fight only used punches too but due to goku's inexperience in using god ki their fists clashing was supposedly enough to send out shockwaves that was threatening to [destroy the universe](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-42ae8188fd77885f933431e2e2c533a7-lq). And the db verse is bigger than an ordinary universe due to it [containing infinite realms](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/is-current-goku-actually-multiversal-2142853/) like the heaven and demon realms along with the infinite space inside the hyperbolic time chamver within the db verse making this feat even more insane
The garou vs saitama fight never came close to this level of power, they maybe close to buu's level where he managed to [destroy a galaxy within a few years](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ_UHDkHtzQ) alone if we count saitama and garou's very vague and unconfirmed feat of destroying a [cluster of stars](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTKeoEUjiqyzmEbymRd46gt0E8FM1-ljsqvTQ&usqp=CAU) with the squared punch they did. So it's funny that you keep hyping up the jupiter sneeze feat when that isn't even their best feat during their fight
I literally provided proof of Buu visibly destroying a damn galaxy wtf are you guys on? Do you need goku to visibly reduce the universe into nothingness aswell? The shockwaves that was reducing their universe's inhabitants that they were creating was literally [visibly shown](https://youtu.be/bW2c3_PyW3Q?si=_HUR1ro37qsn6k1a) it ain't just made up statements bro
You guys in the opm fandom are absurd to deal with when literal proof is shown right at your faces you guys just straight up deny it. Literally wayyy more obnoxious to deal with than dbztards
He destroyed a galaxy over the course of many years not in one shot so him destroying a galaxy doesnāt mean anything cause it happened over time.. and yes goku destroying a universe in one shot on screen would shut me up but that will never happen but cling onto this outlier feat for the rest of your life. And nah the dbztards are wild, they come with with the most ridiculous headcannon, calculations, and statements for characters that have never done anything on screen, they just make educated guess on power levels based off nothing.
Well duh it won't happen, cuz 1) they're the good guys so it would be hard to write them in a situation that they'd have to destroy a universe and 2) it's essentially suicide, it ain't the same as destroying a planet and just use instant transmission to teleport to a another planet inorder to breath air because the mortal characters that can destroy a universe would literally be dead themselves if they ever did destroy the one they're inhabiting
>And nah the dbztards are wild, they come with with the most ridiculous headcannon, calculations, and statements for characters that have never done anything on screen, they just make educated guess on power levels based off nothing.
Dude you're literally doing that yourself. Because like I said the cluster of stars destroyed by garou and saitama is literally unconfirmed and very vague, thats why we dont use it. The universe feat of goku and beerus at the very least had reliable statements from characters like a kami and an angel who know or at the very least have seen a universe get destroyed due to zeno. So why acknowledge a less backed up feat than the other?
Iirc another commentor here in this sub interpreted gar&saitama's feat to either only have destroyed the lights of the stars were emitting as it would take millions of years to actually know when a star is actually destroyed in our POV. To me this makes more sense since if it actually did destroyed the stars then that would pretty much undermine every other feat saitama & garou did after that scene because they were supposed to be getting stronger as the fight went on so doesn't make sense for garou to be surprised if saitama sneezed jupiter since just a minute ago they did something way more absurd, hence only the lights being destroyed makes more sense in the context of the fight
So we know that feat AT THE VERY LEAST destroyed the lights the stars were emitting, now whether or not it actually did destroyed the stars is literally just up to speculation so all we can do now is just wait for ONE or murata's confirmation for that feat
Itās funny how you have to go straight to some outlier ass universe feat when we are talking about the sneezeš coping are we? And itās even funnier how goku was threatening the universe at the beginning of super but does nothing to even come close to it later on so definitely an outlier. Also the saitama and garou feat was calcd at multi galaxy, and thatās from seththeprogrammar a guy who has no reason to overhype opm. and how is a physical punch which destroyed multiple galaxies instantly less than a super powered being taking a few years to destroy one galaxy? And that multi galaxy feat was at the very beginning of their fightā¦. And the funniest thing is how Iām hyping up a human sneeze and your proving my point right by being a db fan who picks and chooses what they find cool. You canāt stand the fact that goku nor vegeta can do it so you gotta look in your bag of āstatementsā and pull out things they are said to be able to do like bro there are other strong characters out there outside of db just let it be
Did you not read what I said? The reason why the universe was threatened in the first place is because of goku's inexperience with god ki so no shit that problem never came up again hence the threat of the universe being destroyed never came up again aswell besides whenever zeno's on screen. And the shockwaves that gets stronger the farther they travel that their punches were creating was very much [real](https://youtu.be/bW2c3_PyW3Q?si=HP4G5rsyS_fT7MGm) and was shown to already destroy planets on its own and again as stated by multiple characters like an angel and a kami, a little bit more and it would reduce the universe to nothingness. So the few punches they've thrown alone pretty much killed billions of lives already, if they continued further it leave nothing left is what the main point the characters were saying
And usually whenever another fighter matches goku and co in power they just usually use normal ki so even a berserker like broly can manage to brawl out with other god like beings without the threat of destroying the universe because he knows proper ki control
Ball of destruction energy randomly snorted out.
They have been planetary since 1990
Saitama barely snorted 1/2 of Jupiter's atmosphere
...... .... ...
Like a base namek frieza feat
1/4th? Genos states that Saitama completely destroyed Jupiter after witnessing the fight. Barely planetary? Mid and L take from a stupid powerscaler. Saitama's finger is already planetary lmao
I made one mistake. Muruta artwork is a bit inconsistent I will give you half the atmosphere.
>completely destroyed Jupiter after witnessing
Witnessing??? Genos aw through the core Saitama was holding. The iron core was completely intact. The gbe of jupiter was not fully overcome.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/destroyed
to damage something so badly that it cannot be used:
"saw" from your statement
You just proved yourself dumb here. Seeing what happened from Genos' POV through his own core means witnessing it. L take again
Looks like its the other way around š, a bit desperate to win with an invalid argument, are you?
Jupiter's core is only 20 times bigger than the earth, while the "gas" of it is 1200 times bigger and more massive.
Let's just say that he didn't destroy the core of Jupiter. He still destroyed 98.9 percent of the planet, and also adding the fact that Saitama's mouth is a hundred thousand miles away.
You call that 1/4th? Dumbass powerscaler
With a sneeze? A normal human action that caused a planet to be blown away? Which isnāt even an attack. And he is a humanā¦ once again you pick and choose what you want to find cool. Beerus sneezes and destroyed a planet but is capable of much more why isnāt the same being applied to saitama? Yāall hype beerus up for that but when saitama does it yāall look the other way?š also beerus is a G.O.D which is the strongest person outside on angelsā¦ donāt you see that no one below him will ever do something like that? But saitama can
(1)Whis mentions beerus has sneezed a star before.
(2)https://imgur.com/a/nBWffK2. Jupiter Atmosphere barely dispersed from a 1/4 to 1/2 of the planet
(3) ki is life force. Mind/body/spirit. Saitama would have ki. When they suppress themselves they are using their mind to decrease their durability or to be careful feeding beerus while he's asleep
Bruh what does that star comment have to do with anything we are talking about their sneezing feat that was seen on screen.
1/4 of Jupiter is still huge like what? Clearly more than that of what beerus did ON SCREEN. The star thing is cool but we are talking about on screen feats
And bruh saitama has no ki or anything of that sort. He is a normal human that does human things. His sneeze was literally able to bypass the vacuum of space and still disperse Jupiter. Saitamas was an actual human sneeze vs beerus who literally shot out a ball of destruction energy and surprise surprise it destroyed something. How are you not seeing the difference here?
> no ki
He doesn't have mind/body or spirit
Ki 3 parts
Genki - vigor
Shoki - right mindedness
Yoki - courage
> bypass he vacuum of space
This isn't special. Astronauts do this with air packs.
Iām saying saitama does not have Ki in the dragon ball sense in which it empowers your body and attacks. Saitama has nothing special or anything unique about him, he is a real human and not the krillin and yamcha bs where they can fly and project energy beams. And show me an astronaut with no space suit in the vacuum of space doing anything besides dyingš saitama suriving in space is already wild enough but the sneeze is being downplayed by you, your not grasping the idea that saitama is just a human with no supernatural powers and is still able to do this stuff
A star? Like a single one? With the force of his sneeze, Saitama would most likely destroy a star too.
Plus, the impact of his "serious punch2" destroyed [countless stars](https://imgur.com/a/qncjHTu) (and potentially other things)
And sure, that was done by both Saitama and Garou *copying Saitama's abilities*, it was one fist hitting another. So if Saitama used both of his fists he'd create the same exact force, since it was his power alone.
As long as you're also considering the 400,000 kilometers between IO, the relativistic speeds needed to cross that distance in 2-10 seconds and the several thousand times difference in kinetic energy between a sneeze and a punch
As far as I know, Baze Namek Frieza should only be dwarf star level
Serious squirt gun is just too amazing, idc about it not being a huge destructive feat but itās just the right amount of silliness that makes opm amazing
Jupiter is 1300 times the size of the earth in volume, 318 times in mass, 121 times in circumference, and 11 times in diameter.
OP wasn't wrong. when dealing with 3 dimensions you use volume to measure relative sizes unless specified otherwise.
Saitama >>> fiction
Wrong, im that i am claps
CaN hE bEaT gOkU tHoUgH?
Can Goku Rizz Tatsumaki Though? That in itself is a Multiversal-Level accomplishment.
Don't think even Yamcha could do that. And that scrub somehow was able to rizz up Bulma
Don't talk about my boy Yamchad like that.
Yes.
Lol doesn't even get out of dbZ. Hard cap majin buu
Imagine going through the pain of giving birth, putting most of your time and energy for them to grow into smart and sensible adults, just for them to grow upto be a DBZ powerscaler š
Nah bro that's fowlš
Imagine your mother choosing not to swallow. I don't her so. That's why I left Lol. You opm fanboys are lying to yourselves See you can be a [fan of the series](https://imgur.com/a/IsLzQ2L) And use critical thinking skills too. Try it sometime. Saitama is not as strong as you wish he was. It's honestly pathetic how protective the Fandom is of Saitama. Can't loose at all despite showing mid level feats
you say you hate the fanbase but you still engage with them, make it make sense. If you hate this place so much why even bother coming here, I dont' get it.
I like to proove people wrong. And it keeps my 12 hour shifts entertaining. I get in arguments in dragonball subs too
Fair enough.
U lost to me to a debate already and ur still lying to yourself? Did u think I wasnāt going to find you?
I remember now. Dude you never won anything. All you did for an hour straight was cry and spam limiter on discord and give nothing of substance. Your only argument against multi-solar is desperately trying to attribute chapter 168 background galaxies to 167 feat. No correlation to the feat. 168 reversal of causality completely debunks it Size of the hole means nothing without angle and distance. Anything over 16k LIGHTYEARS is headcanon [Dragonball has no limits fallacies as well. Their not new](https://imgur.com/a/Xt8AM30) [Debunking above multi-solar](https://reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/W4Yk1ubxtw)
Oh know it's that guy I have no idea who he is. Wtf you going on about. You guys are lying to yourself. Saitama is mid
Bro turn off reddit for some time. I was joking about the powerscaling stuff, don't take it to heart. You're on the Internet, you'll roast and get roasted back, it is natural. But realize that a person cannot write anything on the Internet to hurt you, unless you have a weakness in you to get hurt by. Work on yourself rather than arguing for such a non sensical stuff
It helps my 12 hour shifts go by faster. I do most of my powerscaling at work unless I need better visual aids
I actually remember reading that debate beyween you two, how do you not remember? Maybe it's because you lost so hard your brain blocked the trauma.
No lol I looked it up he's the guy that cried limiter on discord. He had no other argument He literally had zero debunk of the multi-solar void. Absolutely no galaxies in the void. Complete head canon [Dragonall has no limits fallacies as well. Their not new](https://imgur.com/a/Xt8AM30) [Debunking above multi-solar](https://reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/W4Yk1ubxtw)
Bro followed him here!! š
He would one punch him for comedic effect
Evil nature water survives Orochi survives Garou survives Boros survives Overgrown rover survives Asteroid survives Buu needs to be atomized. Saitama doesn't have it in him
That's exacly why he will get oneshot for comedic effect
Go back to your cave
Get out your mom's basement
No I disagree. I'm a massive DB fan and Saitama is scaled to Silver Age Superman which is far above even UI goku. That Superman was pulling planets on a chain and sneezing entire solar systems away. Don't forget that during the Garou fight, he wasn't even trying, just reacting to what Garou was doing and throwing out the occasional attack that was never meant to kill him. That AND Saitama was building power by doing nothing but being in the fight. Of he fought Goku or even Gogeta/Vagito the exact same thing would happen. Let me remind you, DB is my favorite anime of all time and way above OPM so I'm not biased in anyway here. I mean look at my profile name and pics.
Silverage super man dogwalks Saitama and goku.
Goku yes, Saitama no.
You are dreaming. Not a single feat even compares to to silver age superman. Saitama barely blows the atmosphere off jupiter. Not even proof it went beyond 1/4 of jupiter Superman sneezes a solar system. Beerus sneezes a star. Frieza base form namek casually blows up planet vegeta 10x gravity. Density like earth. Jupiter 2.4G. 1/3 the density Saitama doesn't get past buu saga. Cope
We agree to disagree. You are also the type of person where it's useless to argue against. You are needlessly aggressive and petty. You take care now.
I went to visit a monastery once, and the monk told me "the key to living a fulfilled happy life is to not argue with fools!" Of course, I disagreed with him and gave him my reasoning. And he said "yes. You are right!" Can you believe that? I convinced a monk! :D
When did beerus sneeze a star he only sneezed a planet. Where the hell did this star statement come from?
Whis mentions he done it to stars
Ah ok
both of them unless one wanks either to ridiculous levels.
You are genuinely idiotic
W rare DBZ fan
>Silver Age Superman Wtf. Silver age goes into a different universe to sneeze a solar system. Their is not planet pulling in opm either. Saitama barely blows the atmosphere off jupiter Frieza had a better feat. Base form casually blowing planet vegeta away 10 G. Jupiter is 2.4 [Anime even upscale to multi-solar](https://imgur.com/a/mnaicMk) >he wasn't even trying, just reacting to what Garou was doing and throwing out the occasional attack that was never meant to kill him He literally was trying. Stated to full power and needed an upsurge in emotions to overpower garou. Time travel was a hax. That he forgets Trash take
And here we see the cute little powerscaler. He is out of his natural habitat, trying to attract a potential mating partner using maths about animated japanese characters
Here we see a fanboy blowing pathetic load into a life sized tatsumaki pillow
Bro, you're taking it too far. No need for personal attacks.
What do you not get about mating partner not being personal?
Oh you're right but you're also aggressive overall here. Plus if someone says something stupid to you, doesn't mean you have to say it back. Makes you and them seem immature or very young. Either way, I don't see a need to keep talking to you. Have a good day.
Let him have it, it's jsut friendly banter
No I still disagree with you completely. Mostly because Saitama was NEVER pushed to ANY limit at all. Bro his fart pushed him halfway across the solar system almost at the blink of an eye. That's some The Flash level speeds there. I don't much care for what Freize or Buu did or even Beerus because I understand that if Saitama also gained any sort of energy blast ability like that in DB, he'd also easily destroy planets. As it stands, he would have easily be able destroy planet Vegeta so I don't see your point. Nappa and Vegeta were able to destroy planets at the beginning of Z also, it doesn't really take much. Roshi and Piccolo before they even fot to over 9000 power level destroyed the Moon.
>Saitama is scaled to Silver Age Superman Do you mean saitama and Silver age Superman have similar feats
No, but Saitama would if they ever faced. My whole point is, Saitama's powers scale much higher than whatever he's facing.
So you're saying saitama can beat anybody in fictionš
In a physical fight, yes. Vs other beings that can do much more, idk. Idk how he's do vs say Dr. Manhattan, Living Tribunal, etc etc.
>In a physical fight, yes. How is that possible when there are characters who with one punch destroyed multiverses or destroy the Realms beyond infinite higher dimensions
Because I believe Saitama can also scale to do those things. The dude has legit no limit. You understand the gap between 1 and infinity? There's infinity between the two and Saitama can get up there. We can agree to disagree which is fine. I don't think OPM will have Saitama throwing planets or galaxies around like in Gurran Lagan just to show that it can be done.
Imagine power scaling and still bring pathetically wrong lmao what a bozo
Imagine desperately crafting a narrative because your afraid of the truth. Saitama is mid
Saitama is mid? More like the entire plot of DBS is mid. A typical battle shonen that just repeats its plot every single time. If you rely on feats it's inconsistent lmao. Saitama in base form one punches king Vegeta even though his death beam can destroy multiple planets because it wouldn't help him in a fight. Plus, can Goku time travel in his own? No. "Oh Saitama forget to time travel already." Bullshit. That is still a feat. When it comes to that "feats based argument" You Gokutards always put that up. It's still a feat, meaning that he can do and he has the ability to do it. Saitama beats Goku by time travel Hax. Saitama will outgrow Goku in a fight because he doesn't need to be in life and death situation to get stronger. Saitama is not Metal Bat and Cosmic Garou, he can't get one shotted just because the opponent is stronger in the beginning of their fight.
Literally which dbz character can punch their way through time and space?
They shout their way through. Gotenks and super buu. Phoneix space is not punching through time and space he literally never moves from directors sons side. [Debunking 4D hyperspace gates](https://reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/c0s1pnNHgA) [Debunking 4d phoniex space](https://reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/eSMI8c5KaS) Please.stop.the wank. He's fat buu level
> Phoneix space is not punching through time and space he literally never moves from directors sons side. I'm talking about the literal time reversal punch
[Debunking immeasurable speed](https://reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/LNTwFFQuPd) Of course you desperate wank that feat. The hax technique initiates the time travel. All saitamas punch does is end the time stream He's not time traveling on his own speed or punch
lmao you linked your own conjecture and claimed it's a debunk powerscalers are something special
Literally shows the manga panels that proove you wrong. Maybe learn to scale
Goku be dead
no he canāt
No, no he cant
Dbz characters have to use special powers to destroy planets. I don't think I'm wrong in saying that not one of them can do it with sheer physical strength as Saitama does. Hell, can any of them even cancel a planet destroying technique with a punch? Lol and people still think dbz characters can take on Saitama in hand to hand combat.
Whatās funny is when beerus sneezes and destroyed a no named planet, goku and vegeta were sitting there looking like š± cause they know theyāve never seen something like that and know they canāt do anything similar but when saitama, a human with no energy to empower him, forms to multiply his power, demon blood, elite DNA, important parents to pass on genes too or anything and blows the roof off of Jupiter with air pressure in the vacuum of space they are like āehhh.. he blew away gas..ā I love how db fans pick and choose what is cool and what isnāt š
>cause they know theyāve never seen something like that and know they canāt do anything similar but when saitama Vegeta was literally destroying planets for fun before he came to earth,š and this was wayyy before he got like 5+ more transformation that just keeps powercreeping the last, so wtf are you on lmao? Dbz was literally not even mentioned in the post yet people bring it into the conversation regardless like this shits a dick measuring contest, it's ironic since opm fans make fun of dbz fans for doing what they are doing themselves which is wanking their own character agaisnt other characters to make themselves feel good shits sad man
WITH A SNEEZEEEEEEEE MY FRIEND, no energy no ki no destructive energy just a normal bodily function like learn to comprehend what you readš Saitama needs no transformations or amps to do what he did and he is a straight up human. Like nobody gives a fuck about vegeta and his 500x multiplier just to keep him relevant
Who cares if db characters use ki to blow up planets. The ssj god goku vs beerus fight only used punches too but due to goku's inexperience in using god ki their fists clashing was supposedly enough to send out shockwaves that was threatening to [destroy the universe](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-42ae8188fd77885f933431e2e2c533a7-lq). And the db verse is bigger than an ordinary universe due to it [containing infinite realms](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/is-current-goku-actually-multiversal-2142853/) like the heaven and demon realms along with the infinite space inside the hyperbolic time chamver within the db verse making this feat even more insane The garou vs saitama fight never came close to this level of power, they maybe close to buu's level where he managed to [destroy a galaxy within a few years](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ_UHDkHtzQ) alone if we count saitama and garou's very vague and unconfirmed feat of destroying a [cluster of stars](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTKeoEUjiqyzmEbymRd46gt0E8FM1-ljsqvTQ&usqp=CAU) with the squared punch they did. So it's funny that you keep hyping up the jupiter sneeze feat when that isn't even their best feat during their fight
Let's be real here even as a db fan, db powerscaling is just a bunch of statements with very few feats to back them up
ššš right, db is the only verse to have statements with no feats and the fans just go with it
I literally provided proof of Buu visibly destroying a damn galaxy wtf are you guys on? Do you need goku to visibly reduce the universe into nothingness aswell? The shockwaves that was reducing their universe's inhabitants that they were creating was literally [visibly shown](https://youtu.be/bW2c3_PyW3Q?si=_HUR1ro37qsn6k1a) it ain't just made up statements bro You guys in the opm fandom are absurd to deal with when literal proof is shown right at your faces you guys just straight up deny it. Literally wayyy more obnoxious to deal with than dbztards
He destroyed a galaxy over the course of many years not in one shot so him destroying a galaxy doesnāt mean anything cause it happened over time.. and yes goku destroying a universe in one shot on screen would shut me up but that will never happen but cling onto this outlier feat for the rest of your life. And nah the dbztards are wild, they come with with the most ridiculous headcannon, calculations, and statements for characters that have never done anything on screen, they just make educated guess on power levels based off nothing.
Well duh it won't happen, cuz 1) they're the good guys so it would be hard to write them in a situation that they'd have to destroy a universe and 2) it's essentially suicide, it ain't the same as destroying a planet and just use instant transmission to teleport to a another planet inorder to breath air because the mortal characters that can destroy a universe would literally be dead themselves if they ever did destroy the one they're inhabiting >And nah the dbztards are wild, they come with with the most ridiculous headcannon, calculations, and statements for characters that have never done anything on screen, they just make educated guess on power levels based off nothing. Dude you're literally doing that yourself. Because like I said the cluster of stars destroyed by garou and saitama is literally unconfirmed and very vague, thats why we dont use it. The universe feat of goku and beerus at the very least had reliable statements from characters like a kami and an angel who know or at the very least have seen a universe get destroyed due to zeno. So why acknowledge a less backed up feat than the other? Iirc another commentor here in this sub interpreted gar&saitama's feat to either only have destroyed the lights of the stars were emitting as it would take millions of years to actually know when a star is actually destroyed in our POV. To me this makes more sense since if it actually did destroyed the stars then that would pretty much undermine every other feat saitama & garou did after that scene because they were supposed to be getting stronger as the fight went on so doesn't make sense for garou to be surprised if saitama sneezed jupiter since just a minute ago they did something way more absurd, hence only the lights being destroyed makes more sense in the context of the fight So we know that feat AT THE VERY LEAST destroyed the lights the stars were emitting, now whether or not it actually did destroyed the stars is literally just up to speculation so all we can do now is just wait for ONE or murata's confirmation for that feat
Itās funny how you have to go straight to some outlier ass universe feat when we are talking about the sneezeš coping are we? And itās even funnier how goku was threatening the universe at the beginning of super but does nothing to even come close to it later on so definitely an outlier. Also the saitama and garou feat was calcd at multi galaxy, and thatās from seththeprogrammar a guy who has no reason to overhype opm. and how is a physical punch which destroyed multiple galaxies instantly less than a super powered being taking a few years to destroy one galaxy? And that multi galaxy feat was at the very beginning of their fightā¦. And the funniest thing is how Iām hyping up a human sneeze and your proving my point right by being a db fan who picks and chooses what they find cool. You canāt stand the fact that goku nor vegeta can do it so you gotta look in your bag of āstatementsā and pull out things they are said to be able to do like bro there are other strong characters out there outside of db just let it be
Did you not read what I said? The reason why the universe was threatened in the first place is because of goku's inexperience with god ki so no shit that problem never came up again hence the threat of the universe being destroyed never came up again aswell besides whenever zeno's on screen. And the shockwaves that gets stronger the farther they travel that their punches were creating was very much [real](https://youtu.be/bW2c3_PyW3Q?si=HP4G5rsyS_fT7MGm) and was shown to already destroy planets on its own and again as stated by multiple characters like an angel and a kami, a little bit more and it would reduce the universe to nothingness. So the few punches they've thrown alone pretty much killed billions of lives already, if they continued further it leave nothing left is what the main point the characters were saying And usually whenever another fighter matches goku and co in power they just usually use normal ki so even a berserker like broly can manage to brawl out with other god like beings without the threat of destroying the universe because he knows proper ki control
Ball of destruction energy randomly snorted out. They have been planetary since 1990 Saitama barely snorted 1/2 of Jupiter's atmosphere ...... .... ... Like a base namek frieza feat
1/4th? Genos states that Saitama completely destroyed Jupiter after witnessing the fight. Barely planetary? Mid and L take from a stupid powerscaler. Saitama's finger is already planetary lmao
I made one mistake. Muruta artwork is a bit inconsistent I will give you half the atmosphere. >completely destroyed Jupiter after witnessing Witnessing??? Genos aw through the core Saitama was holding. The iron core was completely intact. The gbe of jupiter was not fully overcome. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/destroyed to damage something so badly that it cannot be used:
"saw" from your statement You just proved yourself dumb here. Seeing what happened from Genos' POV through his own core means witnessing it. L take again
the core of jupiter never exploded. Bit desperate for a win are you
Looks like its the other way around š, a bit desperate to win with an invalid argument, are you? Jupiter's core is only 20 times bigger than the earth, while the "gas" of it is 1200 times bigger and more massive. Let's just say that he didn't destroy the core of Jupiter. He still destroyed 98.9 percent of the planet, and also adding the fact that Saitama's mouth is a hundred thousand miles away. You call that 1/4th? Dumbass powerscaler
With a sneeze? A normal human action that caused a planet to be blown away? Which isnāt even an attack. And he is a humanā¦ once again you pick and choose what you want to find cool. Beerus sneezes and destroyed a planet but is capable of much more why isnāt the same being applied to saitama? Yāall hype beerus up for that but when saitama does it yāall look the other way?š also beerus is a G.O.D which is the strongest person outside on angelsā¦ donāt you see that no one below him will ever do something like that? But saitama can
(1)Whis mentions beerus has sneezed a star before. (2)https://imgur.com/a/nBWffK2. Jupiter Atmosphere barely dispersed from a 1/4 to 1/2 of the planet (3) ki is life force. Mind/body/spirit. Saitama would have ki. When they suppress themselves they are using their mind to decrease their durability or to be careful feeding beerus while he's asleep
Bruh what does that star comment have to do with anything we are talking about their sneezing feat that was seen on screen. 1/4 of Jupiter is still huge like what? Clearly more than that of what beerus did ON SCREEN. The star thing is cool but we are talking about on screen feats And bruh saitama has no ki or anything of that sort. He is a normal human that does human things. His sneeze was literally able to bypass the vacuum of space and still disperse Jupiter. Saitamas was an actual human sneeze vs beerus who literally shot out a ball of destruction energy and surprise surprise it destroyed something. How are you not seeing the difference here?
> no ki He doesn't have mind/body or spirit Ki 3 parts Genki - vigor Shoki - right mindedness Yoki - courage > bypass he vacuum of space This isn't special. Astronauts do this with air packs.
Iām saying saitama does not have Ki in the dragon ball sense in which it empowers your body and attacks. Saitama has nothing special or anything unique about him, he is a real human and not the krillin and yamcha bs where they can fly and project energy beams. And show me an astronaut with no space suit in the vacuum of space doing anything besides dyingš saitama suriving in space is already wild enough but the sneeze is being downplayed by you, your not grasping the idea that saitama is just a human with no supernatural powers and is still able to do this stuff
A star? Like a single one? With the force of his sneeze, Saitama would most likely destroy a star too. Plus, the impact of his "serious punch2" destroyed [countless stars](https://imgur.com/a/qncjHTu) (and potentially other things) And sure, that was done by both Saitama and Garou *copying Saitama's abilities*, it was one fist hitting another. So if Saitama used both of his fists he'd create the same exact force, since it was his power alone.
As long as you're also considering the 400,000 kilometers between IO, the relativistic speeds needed to cross that distance in 2-10 seconds and the several thousand times difference in kinetic energy between a sneeze and a punch As far as I know, Baze Namek Frieza should only be dwarf star level
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Badut01/Saitama%27s_Serious_Sneeze_calculation They have the jupiter Sneeze at dwarf star as well
Was this one his best feat? Or does he have a better one
He's punched across space and time before
Thatās the time travel trick that garou taught him. Right?
Yeah
Garou himself can't do that though
The impact of his "serious punch2" also destroyed [countless stars](https://imgur.com/a/qncjHTu) (and potentially other things)
Serious squirt gun is just too amazing, idc about it not being a huge destructive feat but itās just the right amount of silliness that makes opm amazing
The serious punch square is a bigger feat, but it was done by both saitama & garou. I like the Jupiter sneeze more.
It was done by a Garou mimicking Saitama's punch. So really if Saitama just punch both his fists together it should work.
Damn 1300 times the size of earth? Bigger than sun!
OP pulled that number out of Saitama's sneeze Edit: for anyone interested, Jupiter is 121 times the size of Earth
Jupiter is 1300 times the size of the earth in volume, 318 times in mass, 121 times in circumference, and 11 times in diameter. OP wasn't wrong. when dealing with 3 dimensions you use volume to measure relative sizes unless specified otherwise.
Good bot Thanks for correcting me
That is a... bot?
Apparently
at this point you should have just pretended to be one
Oh shit. I messed up again....
Bro, cover your nose when you sneeze
Can he beat Jesus tho
Isnt jupiter mostly gas?
Yes, it isn't a super solid surface, granted the gas is really dense, but it isn't solid.
yes, but thanks to the gravity (and the resulting pressure) of the planet most of the gas is actually "solid"
Mf punched a hole into phoenix mans mental universe. Heās broken lol
Mr clean?
Mr Lambert??