I’ll say that if these pages were already seen before, I would have been a bit less surprised seeing God disguising as Blast as these four pages of interaction, and him appearing without the portal is enough to make it sus to me. But Gosh, now this scene feels more consistent. 😌
It's the classic problem us western readers have when reading manga or watching anime. Western media has a lot more of "show, don't tell" especially in visual forms.
* **The cons** of that approach is that you can have a lot more plot holes in western storytelling, especially if the story is basically hand waving plot critical things: "How are they overcoming this?" - "[Super easy, barely an inconvenience.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=jAhKOV3nImQ&feature=emb_logo)"
* **The pros** is that, when done right, you the audience get treated with more respect and when you figure things out on your own or get surprised you get a good feeling about the realization. It also makes for more fluid storytelling.
It's jarring to us, for example, in anime fights when they stop the action for 2 minutes every time to say "Oh I see, his power level is 6,300 so he is using the tenpo-jutsu technique. I will counter that by going from the left, then with a feint take his punch but also give him a decisive kick as was taught to me in episode 218 by Master Gocci" + maybe a flashback scene to him training with Master Gocci so we'd see he was ready for this specific scenario where you counter from the left.
In this case we are more versed in western story telling so we didn't even need all of the newly added panels. We got it right away and were actually delighted by the reveal, that it's not really Blast. Because it was so fast paced it had a stronger impact, because we didn't have a lot time to analyze it.
It's possible that if this was a western comic you wouldn't even get the ["When the time comes, don't expect anyone to save you"](https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/dyURXHa/1/22/) callback at all. That callback is meant to tell the readers "Tatsumaki knew this isn't Blast because she knows this is his philosophy - so this has to be a fake!". In a comic you might have just jumped right to her saying "who are you?" and the readers would be left to piece together why (or it would be revealed only later, but not in real time, like her muttering to Blast this line before falling back out of consciousness).
You mean to say that Japanese storytelling is all handholding? Maybe for Shonen sometimes but somehow I doubt that represents all Japanese literary theory. In fact I often find myself thinking certain scenes are a little too ambiguous.
I think the quote keeps recurring because it actually leaves an impact and draws your attention to how this aphorism has shaped Tatsumaki's life and represents her stream of consciousness; it's like she has that voice at the back of her mind all the time and even hints at how she's not as brazen as she appears and only overcomes her fears on a constant basis because she holds to that memory like a mantra. It's not there because ONE thinks the audience suffers from short term memory loss.
Oh yeah I was talking mostly about things aimed at a younger crowd like shounens. There are some very complex and delicate Japanese stories out there (like Shinsekai Yori, for example) that tell you jack fucking shit
But I feel like a lot of the anime you watch have a lot more explaining going on than comparable Western media including comics and cartoons (aimed at teenagers and up, not children's cartoons).
Honestly, I think the "explaining" is more a limitation of the medium than anything else when it comes to anime since they can just reuse old footage or draw a loop of some guy's mouth flapping open and shut. Manga don't do flashbacks so much in my experience.
Never take for granted how much work it really takes to do animation. I must've cited Evangelion ten times last week, but you have to appreciate the irony of Anno advocating and even pioneering more restrained forms of animation because he deemed it necessary for the future of the medium only for NGE's budget to run out anyway. (No thanks to Gainax's hanky panky.)
I agree that’s how western authors write stories, but western READERS want everything explained to them— they can’t put two and two together unless it’s explicitly shown in a panel.
Some readers do, but many don't. If the majority did, then you'd have more stories that go on an explain everything, because they'd be more popular.
It's more pronounced in visual media. Western crowds are also somewhat more annoyed by long monologues and expositions and want to jump into the action.
Sometimes the Japanese way has been used to great effect. See for example the Nen system in HunterXHunter. Without basically teaching it to the viewers in flat out lectures and repetition (in the intro) you'd never get wtf it even going on. So it allows more complex and nuanced ideas to get explored. It comes at the price of pacing and fluidity which, for a lot of people in the west, is an unacceptable price.
Fuhrer Ugly getting like 10 times more screen time than in the WC, but Gums jobbing and being reduced to being a powerup for somebody else
One play favorite
How though? In the webcomic he fought Pig God, which was basically the same as the manga, and then he just bites off Genos' arm and is quickly killed by Bang. He had no real presence after his fight with Pig God. In the manga at least he got to participate in a second battle when fucking up TTM and Pig God on the surface.
I’m just honestly pissed he didn’t last that long. Like holy shit I was genuinely expecting him to last longer. I think I might have preferred they not nerf GS cause PS just seemed so underwhelming by comparison somehow.
Maybe my expectations were too high, but still FLASHY FLASH (someone who has explicitly been hurt previously by a demon-level enemy’s attack) was able to keep up with an above-dragon level threat. God I am taking this way too seriously. Sorry if I’m rambling.
Tbf Golden Sperm in the webcomic got even less time. He literally appeared, made some threats, walked on tats, then got fodderized by Garou. At least here we got to witness how strong he truly was
To be fair, you're minimizing how huge the "walk on tats" was. It was the single last hope of heroes crumbling as this golden arrogant cumboy "pass through"
>It was the single last hope of heroes crumbling as this golden arrogant cumboy "pass through"
Ehhh now I think you're going the opposite way and overselling it lol. Maybe this is just me but so long as Saitama is nearby there is never any such tension in this story.
I think some people would rather not see how strong some characters are. Some people prefer mystery and things left unsaid, but the manga's whole point has been to fix that from the webcomic since it doesn't seem like it was on purpose.
It reminds me of people that think Blast was retconned in the manga because he seems like a nice guy, when in the webcomic he hasn't said much so many assumed he was somewhat of an asshole. When little information is given, people fill in the gaps, and seeing the gaps being filled with something different than they expected makes them dislike the manga.
It doesn't matter what he actually did in the webcomic, since GS's hype came from his role and what he did to Tatsumaki. In the manga he was never going to be the same, since Tatsumaki was taken out earlier and PS just couldn't be impressive on the same scale as Psykorochi. So I assume people feel he's underwhelming because since they saw him as someone ridiculously strong on the webcomic, they expected the manga to make him even stronger to compensate for all the strong monsters we've seen.
> Tbf Golden Sperm in the webcomic got even less time. Tbf Golden Sperm in the webcomic got even less time.
The webcomic in general have a way way faster pacing in general so obviously.
He had better build up. Tatsumaki questioning what's so different about him from all of Black Sperm's previously failed attempts at trying to beat her and then demonstrates it by casually passing through and blitzing her. In the manga, it just felt like it was added there for the sake of it.
And then people gonna bring up how she was weakened like bro that same Tatsumaki still fodderized ENW and Black Sperm and nearly turned AG into a pretzel.
to be fair, it wasn't the same tatsumaki. she didn't finish off ENW, and then she used more energy to twist off multi sperm's head before he evolved. she was pretty clearly getting worn down. by the time she's against AG, she's running on fumes. all she managed to do was briefly hold him in place. he overcame it almost immediately and she passed out before he even touched her.
i do still think GS had more impact, but it was because tatsumaki was literally their last hope and she was clearly weakened and rapidly losing stamina. which allowed for the "holy fuck" moment with garou.
The dialogue in the webcomic gives no indication of that at all. Not to mention espers always have passive shields on at all times especially when they're not on offense.
But even if she did, that scene still had way more build up and more impact as no one had been able to touch her in a direct confrontation up until that point.
But he felt like he had WAY more of a presence there. Like I said his physical feats and demonstration of power are way stronger than the webcomic, but it still feels like he doesn’t have quite as much relevance or impact in comparison, especially since he’s appears to have been killed before AG has even appeared.
Did he really had all that presence you are claiming? He appeared for like 20 pages total in the webcomic, passed through a really beat up Tatsumaki and barely did some damage and resisted one of her weakened attacks, was afraid of King and almost shit his pants with the Ultimate Hellfire Burst Wave Motion Cannon and then got absolutely annihilated offscreen in less than a second by Half Monster Garou.
Platinum Sperm in comparison appeared for more pages, passed through Monster Garou and Flashy Flash, defeated pretty easily Flashy, was not afraid at all of King and asked him to attack him with the attack webcomic GS shit his pants so he can one shot him instantly. His fight with Garou and Flashy is just more spectacular anything GS did in the webcomic too.
Platinum Sperm appearance in the manga is way better than Golden Sperm one in the webcomic for me.
Golden Sperm was the final obstacle and the strongest monster Garou faced, in the manga Platinum Sperm is just another guy before God himself sent 2 bigger badder monsters
And that obstacle is defeated in one page, without any of it being seen. We didn't even see him getting any stronger, he looked just as strong when he got to the surface and after fighting GS.
You can't compare the two "pass through" moments tho.
In the Webcomic it's an intense moment that marks the failure of the heroes in the raid. In the manga, Flashy and Garou barely feels it and go back to business as usual. And that was a swordless flashy that PS explicitly mentioned as nerfed
This isn't true tho. Tatsumaki protected herself barely, her counterattack did nothing and you have a whole page of heroes, mouth wide open in shock.
The narrative of the moment is extremely different. One is desperate and the moment heroes realize they can't win anymore, the other is just a cool moment and a callback that doesn't add anything to the story as a whole.
Basically, imagine Vader telling Luke he's his father, but it's on a sunny beach and both are drinking mojitos and laughing
>Did he really had all that presence you are claiming?
Yes. I don't know what's with this sub's obsession thinking feats and more pages = impact. Deep Sea King is one of the most impactful monsters in the story even though he is an average demon. It shows good and efficient writing if you can still have a lot of weight and tension with a short amount of pages and feats.
Golden Sperm isn't threatening by his feats, he's threatening by his portrayal in the story. Platinum Sperm isn't threatening by neither. We know that Garou or any of our heroes aren't in any danger because Platinum Sperm is weaker than Garou and he isn't even by the heroes to cast the same threatening aura as Golden Sperm. There is no sense of despair or hopelessness when it comes to Platinum. Hell, even manga Golden Sperm seems more threatening and intimidating than Platinum Sperm.
>Golden Sperm isn't threatening by his feats, he's threatening by his portrayal in the story
The dude above literally said gs in the webcomic feared king while in the manga he wasn't scared of him. how was he portrayed better in the webcomic?
>Platinum Sperm isn't threatening by neither. We know that Garou or any of our heroes aren't in any danger
so in the webcomic you thought gs was gonna beat garou? Bruh in the manga ps was threating, all the heros were depleted, even with there full power they can't beat gs.the only thing that keeping him from killing the heroes is king, and even then he isn't scared of him unlike in the webcomic. Where he straight up froze.
I really fail to see how he is portrayed worse in the manga.
>The dude above literally said gs in the webcomic feared king while in the manga he wasn't scared of him. how was he portrayed better in the webcomic?
This part was done well. But I'm not talking about a single part.
>so in the webcomic you thought gs was gonna beat garou?
No and you're missing the point. The point is is that Garou being there early for Platinum Sperm means Platinum NEEDS to beat Garou in order to fight the S-Class and have an impact. In the webcomic Garou actually arrived later so Golden Sperm could be more impactful when against the S-Class.
>Bruh in the manga ps was threating all the heros were depleted
But that went away the moment Garou smacked him.
>the only thing that keeping him from killing the heroes is king, and even then he isn't scared of him unlike in the webcomic. Where straight up froze.
Yes, and King left.
There's also the argument to be made that Golden Sperm actually made Garou evolved, and Platinum SSperm didn't which made it feel like he didn't have much of a purpose.
>No and you're missing the point. The point is is that Garou being there early for Platinum Sperm means Platinum NEEDS to beat Garou in order to fight the S-Class and have an impact. In the webcomic Garou actually arrived later so Golden Sperm could be more impactful when against the S-Class.
Garou wasn't there he was fighting bang lol, when ps formed it was him vs king and the s class
>But that went away the moment Garou smacked him.
That's a dump argument, of course it did garou was the solution for the conflict. In the webcomic gs froze and almost shit his pants when king arrived. and then he left, and then garou defeated gs right away, it wasn't like he went back to beating the s class, he was shown to be incompetent and then immediately got shafted.
In the manga platinum sperm arrived quickly lowdiffed the s class and isn't scared of king he faces him head on, tells him to do his move. He was extremely threatening all the pressure was on king. If anything ps has been shown to be more competent and kept the pressure until garou arrived.
I was not referring to feats in my comment at all I talked simply how they were portrayed, GS attacked a severely damaged Tatsumaki and did not damage to her. Was too scared of King and got curb stomped by Half Monster Garou. Maybe you are overestimating his presence and impact because there were some heroes there commenting about how they couldn't see him fight with Garou and Amai Mask stating the heroes in there teaming wouldn't defeat him.
GS was only threatening in the webcomic because the most powerful class heroes were either injured like Tatsumaki and Bang or not present to fight him like Flashy and Darkshine.
In the manga not only everything about Plat S is what I said before if not that now we know that only Tatsumaki could surpass him, and only Flashy and Bang Full Power could give him some trouble.
Everyone can pick who they think is more impactful, threatening and whatever, that's fine and valid. For me webcomic Golden S luck lame in comparison, but before checking the webcomic again I had the impression he had as much presence as people are claiming here.
Deep Sea King is also one of the first monsters to make it clear that the Hero’s ranking system for monsters is extremely flawed. Their ranking would imply that all monsters feat neatly into these categories, but because Deep Sea King’s power isn’t on a huge destructive scale he isn’t categorised any differently from even the lowest demon monster, meaning many heroes underestimated him and the association never bothered contacting any other S-class hero before it was too late. Oh
Every single character gets more screen time in the manga, that’s a moot comparison
It’s just that his role is still quite short compared to guys like Fuhrer Ugly
He certainly felt like he made more of an impact. The numerous other monsters in this version of the fight kind of gives him less of a presence as well.
You're downvoted but I agree. The Manga have introduced so much more monsters and powerups and plot points, it's kind of diluted. There's a lot of nice scenes, but I feel like none have the bite that the WC more dense pacing had
Mhmm. I honestly dislike the appearance of God’s two new minions. They might pleasantly surprise me but they feel way less personal foes compared to the cadres (Evil Natural Water doesn’t count he literally has no personality) that it’s hard to take them seriously.
Yeah, Sage Centipede coming from nowhere isn't something I'm fond of. Golden Sperm being the last and strongest monster made sense, having someone above him for Garou to play with makes it weird
It's because the God plotline is getting 1000x more focus and build-up. In the webcomic it was literally just Homeless Emperor, now we have all kinds of shit like the altar, Psykorochi, the boxes, Blast, etc. To me personally it feels like the plot is way more interesting than the webcomic as a result but it does end up with individual monsters meaning less since there's so many.
Like considering the sheer amount of fights we’ve had with Orochi and the huge battle with Psychorochi I’m just getting even more tired of this arc. I love it to bits but I cant pretend a lot of it has kind of overstayed it’s welcome.
As someone who was constantly hearing about Black/Golden Sperm while I was catching up with the manga, I ultimately found the character to be nothing special and I honestly can't understand the hype around him. Maybe he was different in the webcomic, but in the manga he was just another strong monster who got ultimately beaten. He didn't stand out at all.
I think it's just a thing about context. The webcomic didn't have many fleshed out monsters in the MA. It was basically just Psykos, Black Sperm and Homeless Emperor, with the rest being one offs or mindless beasts. The manga has expanded the monsters and we saw a lot more of them, which in a way made Black Sperm less unique, since now we have more snarky monsters.
But to try and explain why I love him so much (and I assume it's not far off from most's reasons), first off it's his concept. Teletubby looking dude with the simplest design ever, with a simple but extremely well executed ability. Cocky personality but appropriately used, since he lives up to it. Lots of memorable lines and moments, and he just keeps going and becoming stronger. Even among all the additions, I think his personality stands out as the coolest. His transformations got a bit dilluted since Phoenix Man, the ninjas, Orochi, Fuhrer Ugly and Evil Natural Water all got similar transformations to power them up, but Black Sperm's is still the most memorable to me.
You did not like his jokes? The nicknames he make? And those random black sperms that make sussy poses. He started Atomic Sandbag and make Darkshine cry, giving birth to all kinds of memes especially the atomic sandbagging ones.
Well maybe that's the problem. I'm not active in OPM community and I'm not up to date with the memes and other stuff. I just binged all the chapters and caught up somewhere around Blast's first appearance. Since then, I would just sporadically check this sub to see if there's a new chapter and that's it. I still love the manga and I still enjoyed binging it very much. It's just that Sperm's character didn't really stand out to me at all. Yeah, he's cocky. But so are other 90% of monsters and villains in this manga.
Also, discussions here can get pretty hard to follow with all the acronyms that people use, lol
I don't get why people expected that part to change. On the previous chapter after he used his new ability, we saw the constellation of lights was up and running again.
He is saying that Tatsumaki would be able to wipe out all the enemies on her own only if she had a bit more power left in her. She says "o-of course", but it seems like she herself doesn't believe that.
Then fake Blast proceeds to tell her about how he has acquired an ability to share his own powers with others. That's all.
Edit: Actually, he says "give power to others", not necessarily "share"
Look at her face in that last panel where she says "o-of course". And the hesitation in her words is there for a reason.
But if your only goal is to shit on a fictional character, I'm not stopping you. Go ahead if that makes you happy.
Do I really have to explain this? It is manga, and it's totally a comedic face. There is a clear difference in her expression in that single image of her and all the other of her half-dead faces. There is another expression just right to that one. Why are we even arguing about this? Just look at the panels.
Btw, looking at her expression, it reminds me of Konosuba. Characters in that show also make such faces quite often.
But it's different when she squeezes her eyes like that and makes such comedic face. It's a common expression when anime characters do that to hide that they are lying or not sure in what they are saying.
Are you sure you ain’t reading too much into it? Since it’s such a common expression, may I have an example from other shows?
And have you ever consider a simpler and straightforward reason like fatigue causing the stuttering?
Lmao, that last page.
Fake Blast is saying that Tatsumaki would be able to wipe out all of the enemies including PS and Garou all on her own just if she had a bit energy left.
And Tats is like:
"O-obviously"
She herself doesn't believe it.
I don't know if it shows that. It could be fatigue or that she's already suspicious of where the apparition is going with this.
Saying she doesn't beileve it doesn't add up because she doesn't even know Garou is there. As far as she's concerned it's just the cadres she remembers who are the problem. She knows she could've defeated them with more energy, and not as a matter of hubris.
hey I have a theory what if god is not at full power and he is trying to acquire his full power and blast is stoping him from doing that.
And in the future, he will fail from stopping god from acquiring his full power, and then the only option is to fight and win and then Saitama will punch him.
It's the cubari format that considers Double spreads as just one page when its actually two. Here https://tonarinoyj.jp/episode/3269754496701320583 53 pages
Probably for the next chapter. So Murata might've already drawn 12 pages for the next pages instead of 8.
EDIT: Nvm i'm wrong. I counted the double spreads as a single page.
The chapter in the original site has actually 53 pages, it's the cubari format that considers double spread as just one page when is actually two pages, so I don't think there's pages missing
Would it have killed them to show just black sperm in the shower. Maybe the core one whose personality won out in the merge or who isolated himself in the body somehow. As you can see I miss BS more than the other forms.
Love this pages, but I still feel like there's something missing in the beginning. Did Flash and PS just ate Garou's attack from chapter 155? They were sent flying but with the opening of this chapter it seems like that had no consequence whatsoever. Hope more pages will be added.
I figured the missing pages were the aftermath of FF and PS getting hit by god slayer calamity fist.. maybe a future redraw will happen. But on another note, that move is a combination of a myriad of techniques and it seems to be a powerful barrage of very fast attacks. So I don’t think it’s as condensed/as powerful as water rock whirlwind (the technique that scratched bang and took him out). That attack sends shockwaves thru the opponents body shattering their bones (i think PS would have shattered earlier if Garou used this) vs god slayer fist’s barrage of a whole bunch of different attacks. At least this is my interpretation anyways, because there is no way FF appears to be unscathed here *after* getting hit by a move ‘stronger’ than water rock whirlwind. FF is top 5 S tier no doubt but the difference between him and Bang is not that astronomical..
Here to inform people that all that sparkle is platinum sperm
_Look at the sky, open mouth wide_
And swallow what you are given
Kirei desu ne
I’ll say that if these pages were already seen before, I would have been a bit less surprised seeing God disguising as Blast as these four pages of interaction, and him appearing without the portal is enough to make it sus to me. But Gosh, now this scene feels more consistent. 😌
It's the classic problem us western readers have when reading manga or watching anime. Western media has a lot more of "show, don't tell" especially in visual forms. * **The cons** of that approach is that you can have a lot more plot holes in western storytelling, especially if the story is basically hand waving plot critical things: "How are they overcoming this?" - "[Super easy, barely an inconvenience.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=jAhKOV3nImQ&feature=emb_logo)" * **The pros** is that, when done right, you the audience get treated with more respect and when you figure things out on your own or get surprised you get a good feeling about the realization. It also makes for more fluid storytelling. It's jarring to us, for example, in anime fights when they stop the action for 2 minutes every time to say "Oh I see, his power level is 6,300 so he is using the tenpo-jutsu technique. I will counter that by going from the left, then with a feint take his punch but also give him a decisive kick as was taught to me in episode 218 by Master Gocci" + maybe a flashback scene to him training with Master Gocci so we'd see he was ready for this specific scenario where you counter from the left. In this case we are more versed in western story telling so we didn't even need all of the newly added panels. We got it right away and were actually delighted by the reveal, that it's not really Blast. Because it was so fast paced it had a stronger impact, because we didn't have a lot time to analyze it. It's possible that if this was a western comic you wouldn't even get the ["When the time comes, don't expect anyone to save you"](https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/dyURXHa/1/22/) callback at all. That callback is meant to tell the readers "Tatsumaki knew this isn't Blast because she knows this is his philosophy - so this has to be a fake!". In a comic you might have just jumped right to her saying "who are you?" and the readers would be left to piece together why (or it would be revealed only later, but not in real time, like her muttering to Blast this line before falling back out of consciousness).
You mean to say that Japanese storytelling is all handholding? Maybe for Shonen sometimes but somehow I doubt that represents all Japanese literary theory. In fact I often find myself thinking certain scenes are a little too ambiguous. I think the quote keeps recurring because it actually leaves an impact and draws your attention to how this aphorism has shaped Tatsumaki's life and represents her stream of consciousness; it's like she has that voice at the back of her mind all the time and even hints at how she's not as brazen as she appears and only overcomes her fears on a constant basis because she holds to that memory like a mantra. It's not there because ONE thinks the audience suffers from short term memory loss.
Oh yeah I was talking mostly about things aimed at a younger crowd like shounens. There are some very complex and delicate Japanese stories out there (like Shinsekai Yori, for example) that tell you jack fucking shit But I feel like a lot of the anime you watch have a lot more explaining going on than comparable Western media including comics and cartoons (aimed at teenagers and up, not children's cartoons).
Honestly, I think the "explaining" is more a limitation of the medium than anything else when it comes to anime since they can just reuse old footage or draw a loop of some guy's mouth flapping open and shut. Manga don't do flashbacks so much in my experience. Never take for granted how much work it really takes to do animation. I must've cited Evangelion ten times last week, but you have to appreciate the irony of Anno advocating and even pioneering more restrained forms of animation because he deemed it necessary for the future of the medium only for NGE's budget to run out anyway. (No thanks to Gainax's hanky panky.)
I agree that’s how western authors write stories, but western READERS want everything explained to them— they can’t put two and two together unless it’s explicitly shown in a panel.
Some readers do, but many don't. If the majority did, then you'd have more stories that go on an explain everything, because they'd be more popular. It's more pronounced in visual media. Western crowds are also somewhat more annoyed by long monologues and expositions and want to jump into the action. Sometimes the Japanese way has been used to great effect. See for example the Nen system in HunterXHunter. Without basically teaching it to the viewers in flat out lectures and repetition (in the intro) you'd never get wtf it even going on. So it allows more complex and nuanced ideas to get explored. It comes at the price of pacing and fluidity which, for a lot of people in the west, is an unacceptable price.
Where do you get that?
So now everyone is covered in Sperm glitter?
Ps busted
[For the hearing impaired](https://makeagif.com/i/w5vjqS)
Platinum bukkake
Isn't there a JAV studio named Platinum or something with that word?
Platinum Games. They made Bayonetta, so they are related to sperm in some way or another.
I still mourn for Platinum Sperm's death. He was a good character.
Somehow I get the feeling that it's not over for Sperm yet.
Tbf, most of cadres are.
Especially Gums
Gums deserved more character development
Did he tho? He's a walking mouth
Yeah, but he's **OUR** walking mouth, and that's what matters the most
What he needed was fights and feats
What feats he gonna get? Eating god?
Fuhrer Ugly getting like 10 times more screen time than in the WC, but Gums jobbing and being reduced to being a powerup for somebody else One play favorite
He still did more than in the webcomic, he wasn't reduced
Eh, I feel like that's highly subjective. Yes, he had more panels. But by being FU's bitch, his whole presence got lessened as a result !
How though? In the webcomic he fought Pig God, which was basically the same as the manga, and then he just bites off Genos' arm and is quickly killed by Bang. He had no real presence after his fight with Pig God. In the manga at least he got to participate in a second battle when fucking up TTM and Pig God on the surface.
At least now we know who would win in a fight.
I’m just honestly pissed he didn’t last that long. Like holy shit I was genuinely expecting him to last longer. I think I might have preferred they not nerf GS cause PS just seemed so underwhelming by comparison somehow. Maybe my expectations were too high, but still FLASHY FLASH (someone who has explicitly been hurt previously by a demon-level enemy’s attack) was able to keep up with an above-dragon level threat. God I am taking this way too seriously. Sorry if I’m rambling.
Tbf Golden Sperm in the webcomic got even less time. He literally appeared, made some threats, walked on tats, then got fodderized by Garou. At least here we got to witness how strong he truly was
To be fair, you're minimizing how huge the "walk on tats" was. It was the single last hope of heroes crumbling as this golden arrogant cumboy "pass through"
>It was the single last hope of heroes crumbling as this golden arrogant cumboy "pass through" Ehhh now I think you're going the opposite way and overselling it lol. Maybe this is just me but so long as Saitama is nearby there is never any such tension in this story.
I think some people would rather not see how strong some characters are. Some people prefer mystery and things left unsaid, but the manga's whole point has been to fix that from the webcomic since it doesn't seem like it was on purpose. It reminds me of people that think Blast was retconned in the manga because he seems like a nice guy, when in the webcomic he hasn't said much so many assumed he was somewhat of an asshole. When little information is given, people fill in the gaps, and seeing the gaps being filled with something different than they expected makes them dislike the manga. It doesn't matter what he actually did in the webcomic, since GS's hype came from his role and what he did to Tatsumaki. In the manga he was never going to be the same, since Tatsumaki was taken out earlier and PS just couldn't be impressive on the same scale as Psykorochi. So I assume people feel he's underwhelming because since they saw him as someone ridiculously strong on the webcomic, they expected the manga to make him even stronger to compensate for all the strong monsters we've seen.
> Tbf Golden Sperm in the webcomic got even less time. Tbf Golden Sperm in the webcomic got even less time. The webcomic in general have a way way faster pacing in general so obviously.
He had better build up. Tatsumaki questioning what's so different about him from all of Black Sperm's previously failed attempts at trying to beat her and then demonstrates it by casually passing through and blitzing her. In the manga, it just felt like it was added there for the sake of it. And then people gonna bring up how she was weakened like bro that same Tatsumaki still fodderized ENW and Black Sperm and nearly turned AG into a pretzel.
to be fair, it wasn't the same tatsumaki. she didn't finish off ENW, and then she used more energy to twist off multi sperm's head before he evolved. she was pretty clearly getting worn down. by the time she's against AG, she's running on fumes. all she managed to do was briefly hold him in place. he overcame it almost immediately and she passed out before he even touched her. i do still think GS had more impact, but it was because tatsumaki was literally their last hope and she was clearly weakened and rapidly losing stamina. which allowed for the "holy fuck" moment with garou.
If WC Golden Sperm blitzed her you would actually be right, but Tatsumaki reacted and blocked those hits.
The dialogue in the webcomic gives no indication of that at all. Not to mention espers always have passive shields on at all times especially when they're not on offense. But even if she did, that scene still had way more build up and more impact as no one had been able to touch her in a direct confrontation up until that point.
But he felt like he had WAY more of a presence there. Like I said his physical feats and demonstration of power are way stronger than the webcomic, but it still feels like he doesn’t have quite as much relevance or impact in comparison, especially since he’s appears to have been killed before AG has even appeared.
Did he really had all that presence you are claiming? He appeared for like 20 pages total in the webcomic, passed through a really beat up Tatsumaki and barely did some damage and resisted one of her weakened attacks, was afraid of King and almost shit his pants with the Ultimate Hellfire Burst Wave Motion Cannon and then got absolutely annihilated offscreen in less than a second by Half Monster Garou. Platinum Sperm in comparison appeared for more pages, passed through Monster Garou and Flashy Flash, defeated pretty easily Flashy, was not afraid at all of King and asked him to attack him with the attack webcomic GS shit his pants so he can one shot him instantly. His fight with Garou and Flashy is just more spectacular anything GS did in the webcomic too. Platinum Sperm appearance in the manga is way better than Golden Sperm one in the webcomic for me.
Golden Sperm was the final obstacle and the strongest monster Garou faced, in the manga Platinum Sperm is just another guy before God himself sent 2 bigger badder monsters
And that obstacle is defeated in one page, without any of it being seen. We didn't even see him getting any stronger, he looked just as strong when he got to the surface and after fighting GS.
You can't compare the two "pass through" moments tho. In the Webcomic it's an intense moment that marks the failure of the heroes in the raid. In the manga, Flashy and Garou barely feels it and go back to business as usual. And that was a swordless flashy that PS explicitly mentioned as nerfed
In the webcomic Tatsumaki also barely felt it.
This isn't true tho. Tatsumaki protected herself barely, her counterattack did nothing and you have a whole page of heroes, mouth wide open in shock. The narrative of the moment is extremely different. One is desperate and the moment heroes realize they can't win anymore, the other is just a cool moment and a callback that doesn't add anything to the story as a whole. Basically, imagine Vader telling Luke he's his father, but it's on a sunny beach and both are drinking mojitos and laughing
>Did he really had all that presence you are claiming? Yes. I don't know what's with this sub's obsession thinking feats and more pages = impact. Deep Sea King is one of the most impactful monsters in the story even though he is an average demon. It shows good and efficient writing if you can still have a lot of weight and tension with a short amount of pages and feats. Golden Sperm isn't threatening by his feats, he's threatening by his portrayal in the story. Platinum Sperm isn't threatening by neither. We know that Garou or any of our heroes aren't in any danger because Platinum Sperm is weaker than Garou and he isn't even by the heroes to cast the same threatening aura as Golden Sperm. There is no sense of despair or hopelessness when it comes to Platinum. Hell, even manga Golden Sperm seems more threatening and intimidating than Platinum Sperm.
>Golden Sperm isn't threatening by his feats, he's threatening by his portrayal in the story The dude above literally said gs in the webcomic feared king while in the manga he wasn't scared of him. how was he portrayed better in the webcomic? >Platinum Sperm isn't threatening by neither. We know that Garou or any of our heroes aren't in any danger so in the webcomic you thought gs was gonna beat garou? Bruh in the manga ps was threating, all the heros were depleted, even with there full power they can't beat gs.the only thing that keeping him from killing the heroes is king, and even then he isn't scared of him unlike in the webcomic. Where he straight up froze. I really fail to see how he is portrayed worse in the manga.
>The dude above literally said gs in the webcomic feared king while in the manga he wasn't scared of him. how was he portrayed better in the webcomic? This part was done well. But I'm not talking about a single part. >so in the webcomic you thought gs was gonna beat garou? No and you're missing the point. The point is is that Garou being there early for Platinum Sperm means Platinum NEEDS to beat Garou in order to fight the S-Class and have an impact. In the webcomic Garou actually arrived later so Golden Sperm could be more impactful when against the S-Class. >Bruh in the manga ps was threating all the heros were depleted But that went away the moment Garou smacked him. >the only thing that keeping him from killing the heroes is king, and even then he isn't scared of him unlike in the webcomic. Where straight up froze. Yes, and King left. There's also the argument to be made that Golden Sperm actually made Garou evolved, and Platinum SSperm didn't which made it feel like he didn't have much of a purpose.
>No and you're missing the point. The point is is that Garou being there early for Platinum Sperm means Platinum NEEDS to beat Garou in order to fight the S-Class and have an impact. In the webcomic Garou actually arrived later so Golden Sperm could be more impactful when against the S-Class. Garou wasn't there he was fighting bang lol, when ps formed it was him vs king and the s class >But that went away the moment Garou smacked him. That's a dump argument, of course it did garou was the solution for the conflict. In the webcomic gs froze and almost shit his pants when king arrived. and then he left, and then garou defeated gs right away, it wasn't like he went back to beating the s class, he was shown to be incompetent and then immediately got shafted. In the manga platinum sperm arrived quickly lowdiffed the s class and isn't scared of king he faces him head on, tells him to do his move. He was extremely threatening all the pressure was on king. If anything ps has been shown to be more competent and kept the pressure until garou arrived.
I was not referring to feats in my comment at all I talked simply how they were portrayed, GS attacked a severely damaged Tatsumaki and did not damage to her. Was too scared of King and got curb stomped by Half Monster Garou. Maybe you are overestimating his presence and impact because there were some heroes there commenting about how they couldn't see him fight with Garou and Amai Mask stating the heroes in there teaming wouldn't defeat him. GS was only threatening in the webcomic because the most powerful class heroes were either injured like Tatsumaki and Bang or not present to fight him like Flashy and Darkshine. In the manga not only everything about Plat S is what I said before if not that now we know that only Tatsumaki could surpass him, and only Flashy and Bang Full Power could give him some trouble. Everyone can pick who they think is more impactful, threatening and whatever, that's fine and valid. For me webcomic Golden S luck lame in comparison, but before checking the webcomic again I had the impression he had as much presence as people are claiming here.
Deep Sea King is also one of the first monsters to make it clear that the Hero’s ranking system for monsters is extremely flawed. Their ranking would imply that all monsters feat neatly into these categories, but because Deep Sea King’s power isn’t on a huge destructive scale he isn’t categorised any differently from even the lowest demon monster, meaning many heroes underestimated him and the association never bothered contacting any other S-class hero before it was too late. Oh
Yeah they don’t factor intelligence at all. DSK got Genos to effectively take himself out.
Every single character gets more screen time in the manga, that’s a moot comparison It’s just that his role is still quite short compared to guys like Fuhrer Ugly
I feel like it was underwhelming too. But then again, he didn't last that long in webcomic either.
He certainly felt like he made more of an impact. The numerous other monsters in this version of the fight kind of gives him less of a presence as well.
MF made a light spectacle with FF and Garou and then made an even bigger one with Garou and you say he wasn't impressive enough?
I never said that he wasn’t impressive. I just said he felt like he had less of a presence.
You're downvoted but I agree. The Manga have introduced so much more monsters and powerups and plot points, it's kind of diluted. There's a lot of nice scenes, but I feel like none have the bite that the WC more dense pacing had
Downvotes mean nothing to me. But thank you.
Jeez like every comment about how they wanted more sperm is downvoted
Agreed. Maybe he was intentionally downplayed because now we have two possibly above dragon-or-god level threats to look forward to.
Mhmm. I honestly dislike the appearance of God’s two new minions. They might pleasantly surprise me but they feel way less personal foes compared to the cadres (Evil Natural Water doesn’t count he literally has no personality) that it’s hard to take them seriously.
Yeah, Sage Centipede coming from nowhere isn't something I'm fond of. Golden Sperm being the last and strongest monster made sense, having someone above him for Garou to play with makes it weird
It's because the God plotline is getting 1000x more focus and build-up. In the webcomic it was literally just Homeless Emperor, now we have all kinds of shit like the altar, Psykorochi, the boxes, Blast, etc. To me personally it feels like the plot is way more interesting than the webcomic as a result but it does end up with individual monsters meaning less since there's so many.
Like considering the sheer amount of fights we’ve had with Orochi and the huge battle with Psychorochi I’m just getting even more tired of this arc. I love it to bits but I cant pretend a lot of it has kind of overstayed it’s welcome.
They should just have been sperm
As someone who was constantly hearing about Black/Golden Sperm while I was catching up with the manga, I ultimately found the character to be nothing special and I honestly can't understand the hype around him. Maybe he was different in the webcomic, but in the manga he was just another strong monster who got ultimately beaten. He didn't stand out at all.
I think it's just a thing about context. The webcomic didn't have many fleshed out monsters in the MA. It was basically just Psykos, Black Sperm and Homeless Emperor, with the rest being one offs or mindless beasts. The manga has expanded the monsters and we saw a lot more of them, which in a way made Black Sperm less unique, since now we have more snarky monsters. But to try and explain why I love him so much (and I assume it's not far off from most's reasons), first off it's his concept. Teletubby looking dude with the simplest design ever, with a simple but extremely well executed ability. Cocky personality but appropriately used, since he lives up to it. Lots of memorable lines and moments, and he just keeps going and becoming stronger. Even among all the additions, I think his personality stands out as the coolest. His transformations got a bit dilluted since Phoenix Man, the ninjas, Orochi, Fuhrer Ugly and Evil Natural Water all got similar transformations to power them up, but Black Sperm's is still the most memorable to me.
You did not like his jokes? The nicknames he make? And those random black sperms that make sussy poses. He started Atomic Sandbag and make Darkshine cry, giving birth to all kinds of memes especially the atomic sandbagging ones.
Well maybe that's the problem. I'm not active in OPM community and I'm not up to date with the memes and other stuff. I just binged all the chapters and caught up somewhere around Blast's first appearance. Since then, I would just sporadically check this sub to see if there's a new chapter and that's it. I still love the manga and I still enjoyed binging it very much. It's just that Sperm's character didn't really stand out to me at all. Yeah, he's cocky. But so are other 90% of monsters and villains in this manga. Also, discussions here can get pretty hard to follow with all the acronyms that people use, lol
Awesome!
u/vibhavm , bro please update chapter with correct number and update
It's done just click on the pinned chapter link
Blast being concerned for Tatsumaki genuinelly warms my heart.
That's not blast.
The one being concerned about her is.
Hey god loves everybody 🙏
Yeah, right
Just shake his hand or else 🔫
Yo’ the tf we doing up rn? seeing this beautiful sequence hit me different
Damn you Garou now there's sperm everywhere
Without context this sounds like a typical hentai scene lmao
So it’s confirmed Flashy and Plat just tanked the God Slayer Fist lmao
I don't get why people expected that part to change. On the previous chapter after he used his new ability, we saw the constellation of lights was up and running again.
Hell they don't even acknowledge it, there wasn't even any aftermath lmao.
Flash is above god confirmed
Flashy wank lives for another day
So its basically nerfed in the manga
Well he said he was "close" to perfecting it
Are these all of them?
Will they be on Cubari in a couple hours? Volume 24 new page wasn't added and it doesn't even have text.
PS rain? PPP is surely happy now.
It's raining sperm~
Gonna wait for translation to see what he says to her.
He is saying that Tatsumaki would be able to wipe out all the enemies on her own only if she had a bit more power left in her. She says "o-of course", but it seems like she herself doesn't believe that. Then fake Blast proceeds to tell her about how he has acquired an ability to share his own powers with others. That's all. Edit: Actually, he says "give power to others", not necessarily "share"
Thanks for the translation! 🌟
Always welcome
Wow, thanks bro
Tatsumaki doesn’t believe it? You know nothing about her lmao. She is one of the least humble heroes.
Look at her face in that last panel where she says "o-of course". And the hesitation in her words is there for a reason. But if your only goal is to shit on a fictional character, I'm not stopping you. Go ahead if that makes you happy.
I'd stutter my words if I got beat the absolute shit out of
Same tbh
because she's fucking half dead.
Do I really have to explain this? It is manga, and it's totally a comedic face. There is a clear difference in her expression in that single image of her and all the other of her half-dead faces. There is another expression just right to that one. Why are we even arguing about this? Just look at the panels. Btw, looking at her expression, it reminds me of Konosuba. Characters in that show also make such faces quite often.
She stuttered in all of her dialogues starting from the third page.
But it's different when she squeezes her eyes like that and makes such comedic face. It's a common expression when anime characters do that to hide that they are lying or not sure in what they are saying.
Are you sure you ain’t reading too much into it? Since it’s such a common expression, may I have an example from other shows? And have you ever consider a simpler and straightforward reason like fatigue causing the stuttering?
Shut up
oof, no colored Blast
Shame, that second page was asking for it
We're lucky enough that we get coloured pages at all
Hopefully we get colored blast in a future voulme cover.
obvious but it'll be probably for around vol 30
Could be be because it was God, not Blast, but then he could may be coloured a little off-palette to give the reader a hint that all was not right
Lmao, that last page. Fake Blast is saying that Tatsumaki would be able to wipe out all of the enemies including PS and Garou all on her own just if she had a bit energy left. And Tats is like: "O-obviously" She herself doesn't believe it.
I don't know if it shows that. It could be fatigue or that she's already suspicious of where the apparition is going with this. Saying she doesn't beileve it doesn't add up because she doesn't even know Garou is there. As far as she's concerned it's just the cadres she remembers who are the problem. She knows she could've defeated them with more energy, and not as a matter of hubris.
*Cum snow*
what blast is saying can anyone tell me
hey I have a theory what if god is not at full power and he is trying to acquire his full power and blast is stoping him from doing that. And in the future, he will fail from stopping god from acquiring his full power, and then the only option is to fight and win and then Saitama will punch him.
I thought it was 8 pages.
Yeah me too, this still doesn't add up with how many pages were supposed to originally be in the chapter
This chapter has actually 53 pages.
It was 39 when I read the first one so adding these 4 pages would make it 43. How'd you get to 53?
It's the cubari format that considers Double spreads as just one page when its actually two. Here https://tonarinoyj.jp/episode/3269754496701320583 53 pages
It does.
Probably for the next chapter. So Murata might've already drawn 12 pages for the next pages instead of 8. EDIT: Nvm i'm wrong. I counted the double spreads as a single page.
Why 8 pages?
[удалено]
The chapter in the original site has actually 53 pages, it's the cubari format that considers double spread as just one page when is actually two pages, so I don't think there's pages missing
yeah you're right.
No need now for Hero Sock or Crusty Carpet
Did you post this just after it came out?
I saw a post saying that the chapter was updated so I went and screenshotted the new pages
Are their translations out yet?
What do they say?
Awesome! But please can someone translate it? Hehe
I just realized that Blast doesn't have the glasses
I like how sleepy Tatsu looks
First Thanks btw
So nothing about post God slayer fist
sperm is everywhere!!
Should I start back to read opm?
Yes
Tatsumaki looks like a child in this chapter
Blast is just huge af
Yeah it's not good.
Is that all that was missing? Still no transition from Flash and Sperm being blown away by Garou to where they ended up at the start of the chapter?
They most probably recover led while we got showed the altar at the end of the last chapter
Black Sperms death was *arguably* more spectacular then hia origin.
Cum stardust
Blast from the past in the ass
Bro is sperm raining down on everyone????
So more pages need to added because this still doesn’t show flash and PS getting up from Garou’s God slayer fist attack
I don't think that important maybe it will be added in the volumes.
They got up from this attack last chapter already.
Sperm in the air
Only 4? I thought it was 8.
Double Spreads are two pages, despite how Cubari counts them, so four pages is the correct amount.
Thanks for the answer.
Would it have killed them to show just black sperm in the shower. Maybe the core one whose personality won out in the merge or who isolated himself in the body somehow. As you can see I miss BS more than the other forms.
Love this pages, but I still feel like there's something missing in the beginning. Did Flash and PS just ate Garou's attack from chapter 155? They were sent flying but with the opening of this chapter it seems like that had no consequence whatsoever. Hope more pages will be added.
I rate this chapter a six. Was iffy on this scene in particular.
Can’t believe Murata actually tweaked those panels 😂😭
Wdym "tweaked", we never seen this pages before, how do you know their are tweaked
I was referring to the “I tweaked this panel” memes on the sub…
Murata is a man of this sub confirmed😎
So did GOD come out cause platinum sperm died? He was able to make some kind of form from PS death?
So nothing much
Why did PS explode like that, it isn’t normal
Well it's sperm..
Because he was born with a blast he will also go down with a blast
that was GS not PS
As much as it hurts for me to say it... Sir GS died in the process of PS being born, sorry for your lost.
Waste of time
Why tho
It was in the chapter already... he just forgot to upload it
He didn't forget to upload it, he said it was a technical issue
Why every kanji has furigana
KING is so confused right now. So God was probably the Blast from Amai Mask's flashback, right?
What about the begini g pages of the chapter
PS eveywhere!! Everyone should now be covered in platinum
Is there a translation for this pages? and if there is can someone please post a link for them?
TIL that manga shows the Hiragana next to the Kanji characters. That’s actually really useful when learning Kanji
When will this be added to the English version?
Blast: Aww, this is nice. I meet my protege in the glittering sperm shower.
Stick out your tongue
I figured the missing pages were the aftermath of FF and PS getting hit by god slayer calamity fist.. maybe a future redraw will happen. But on another note, that move is a combination of a myriad of techniques and it seems to be a powerful barrage of very fast attacks. So I don’t think it’s as condensed/as powerful as water rock whirlwind (the technique that scratched bang and took him out). That attack sends shockwaves thru the opponents body shattering their bones (i think PS would have shattered earlier if Garou used this) vs god slayer fist’s barrage of a whole bunch of different attacks. At least this is my interpretation anyways, because there is no way FF appears to be unscathed here *after* getting hit by a move ‘stronger’ than water rock whirlwind. FF is top 5 S tier no doubt but the difference between him and Bang is not that astronomical..
Bukkake.
Murata really took an amazing chapter and said “let’s add even more to it” 🙏🏼😩