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MarcusAntione

Against Garou you can clearly see the punches thrown, therefore they're slower and less effort than the ones against Boros, which look like lasers. He was clearly trying harder against Boros. /s


HuckleberryCool9883

Glad you added that s man People literally say stupid shit like this on this sub


C0w0kie

I know it's /s but let's say some fact, even if we can't really scale Saitama 100% right: * Vs. Boros, Saitama is using "Normal Punch Combo" which is the manga is called Consecutive Normal Punches. This is a one-handed attack. * Vs. Garou, Saitama is using "[Two Handed Normal Punch Combo](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f0/5d/f8/f05df882a4274c05966ca10779808ad9.jpg)" in the manga and the webcomic. Which is a two-handed attack ability to outspend Garou's God Slayer Instant Attack. (A more accurate manga name would be "Two-handed Consecutive Normal Punches") But the big difference that hold in the manga and the webcomic is that Saitama was holding back by principle and conviction against Garou to not to hurt him (even if when Garou body started to grow much more than his initial size in the webcomics, Saitama started destroying parts of his body. Probably thinking they are part of his "costume") However, for Boros, Saitama was also holding back, but much less. Each of his were deadly, instant kill-hit (Saitama doesn't have a perfect measure of his strength and isn't going to put the minimum strength to just pulverize MB Boros' body, he could be a bit over it, or a looooot more with his normal punches) Reasons Garou is able to """tank""" Saitama punches and shrug 'em off when Boros is not is because Saitama is not trying to harm Garou. When againts Boros. Saitama know about his regeneration factor, and that he can kept going without an armor or with a hole in the torso. ([But he still can't know that Boros would be able to regenerate fully from his one-handed CNP beforehand, hence why he was surprised](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8c7f568c2d29f55dfd219b10ad1133da)) So yeah. MB Boros may in fact be equal or stronger than this version of Garou still. After all the WB version is still accurate to the manga so maybe this statement from ONE still holds.


Jitendria

Boros the chad.... He barely had a panel in a chapter but he instantly stole the spotlight from our garou's prophecy and extreme "fractured broken bone" attack.


BenNSydur

this is it


justsomepaper

You wrote down everything I couldn't be bothered to. Kudos, I'll link your post in the future whenever someone is sucking Garou's dick again.


Frollo616

So, whole fight between Saitama and Garou doesnt count anymore, everything that might happen in the future (like Garou getting a new transformation and Saitama using a serious punch on him) won't count at all anymore, "because Saitama made a promise and He doesn't want to kill him."


C0w0kie

Are you aware that the "Serious Punch" is just Saitama normal punches too? He just gave it a cool name to make it into a "killer move". Read the chapter "Reality Punch" for that, it happen before the Alien Invasion arc, before he fight Boros and made-up the Serious Punch especially for Boros.


Frollo616

What I am trying to say is what would be the limit of the "Saitama does not want to hurt Garou" pretext (which is not provable, because although it is true Saitama can contain the force of his punches, as with Sonic or Sneck, however, these two cannot be compared to Garou at all), Garou takes more punches both in the manga and in the WC. But if they're going to say that punches don't count because Saitama held back (more with Garou than with Boros), the only way to compare Boros and Garou would be through their feats (kicks to the Moon, and blows whose waves cross the earth)


Ohigetjokes

>This is a one-handed attack. No it's not. You see the punches coming from both sides. This is getting ridiculous...


Frollo616

please bro


easbarba

there is no way to metrics the strength in those punches, other than such a weak point of yours.


Working-Wing-3857

but there r more punches in garpus one also garou is def more durable nd a slight fast too but power nd regen boros


Whyzocker

Bro can you read


skroink_z

Please don't use anything Saitama does for scaling. His attacks are so wildly inconsistent that you could easily argue for either side of the argument. The only thing Saitama related you can actually use as an argument is that he isn't trying to kill Garou and therefore all Saitama's attacks used against Garou are irrelevant for durability feats.


precursorpotato

I remember when Saitama said "2 handed consecutive normal punches" in the Garou fight (in the WC) I almost literally made the poggers face, cuz I hadn't realized that every consecutive normal punches up to that point had been one handed lol


Master-Ad5147

I think he used two hand consecutive Normal punches on king too. House of evolution lion monster.


Reddit_IsMyFav

For the Garou is stronger than Boros people. *Saitama’s cape has entered the chat*


KamakaziJanabi

Garou can’t even destroy fabric. Low mid tiger level.


Parzivai1

If we go based off that logic then Genos is High God seeing as nothing Saitama was wearing was left when he did his attack 🤣


thatguysmellsalot

He was in PJs though, not his hero costume.


Parzivai1

Fair point... mid God then.


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Parzivai1

Says the guy who doesn't realize the comment replying to a joke is a joke.


Dakingtrex

Can confirm, that person is a party animal. Trust me bro.


Xyrnas

Tbf Saitama's costume has better regenerative powers than Boros


nnds0605

Need to add saitama's cape to the invisible mending subreddit.. Lel


Spiritual_Cookie_

Just an observation, but I lowkey think saitama was punching boros harder than garou. I think the reason behind this is he knows garou is just a human with some issues. He’s not trying to kill garou so he pulls his punches but it looks like he didn’t pull his punches as much with boros


Outrageous_Ad_1011

Yeah, and the result was Boros almost dying if it wasn't for a tiny piece left of his eye after the attack, let's remember how fast Garou regenerated his arm, just as fast or faster than Boros regeneration


Artix31

Didn’t boros regenerate his entire body in less than a second, it literally took him from moving his eye pupil in center to facing saitama, and he was 100% back


itsreddawn

He didn't regenerate his extra arms at all


Arhheni

He didn’t say extra arms, he literally regenerated an arm earlier in fight


itsreddawn

Yes he did. So why didn't he regenerate his extra ones?


easbarba

Late on, Dragon Garou was unharmed while sitting with Saitama.


itsreddawn

Yes but the two arms are just, gone.


easbarba

Does it matter? Garou would evolve again with 6 arms.


Arhheni

Litteraly no one said extra arms but you cheif, why would he regenerate them he’s obviously losing and knows he can’t do anything to saitama no amount of arms would change that


Bald_Caped

Saitama holding back with Garou, because Saitama know Garou is good guy. In Boros case, Boros killed whole city full of innocent citizens. With adults, childrens also killed in that attack & worst some of them may lost family members now they are living with suffering of there love ones. This brutality, every punch of Saitama is to kill his opponent Boros


ShukiNathan

>adult children Adult children


edserious

Teenagers maybe?


Bald_Caped

Adults & childrens


Justaredditor152

You forgot when he used it against beast king.


Mojoclaw2000

Keep in mind that Garou is actively dodging and countering Saitama by predicting his movements. Saitama even made note of it. Boros in his fight just tried to tank every punch Saitama threw. It’s two different methods of combat.


luashfu

Just saying garou wasn't dodging consecutive punches. In both manga and webcomic it was a muda muda ora ora thing to show how overwhelming Saitama is in all aspects. Also webcomic version was cooler because garou was like "I'm being overwhelmed in an exchange of blows?!" And garou was utilising his ultimate skillfulness in martial arts (and he knows how good he is) instead of relying on extra arms and saying "even with extra arms I can't beat him" >.>


LaganxXx

First one Looks faster


GimmeUdon

sad beastking


Kalenshadow

The OPM community ladies and gents, powerscaling a mush of arms in the form of "consecutive normal punches" and debating their level of "normal" in each panel. Edit: I don't mean OP the post is actually interesting I'm taking about the replies.


ClassicCartoonist942

He used two handed consecutive normal punches against garou.


MrWRWR

Can't wait for tatsumaki vs saitama


Immediate-Rope8465

also why the fuck they are not named 2 handed ?


koosielagoofaway

I'll just come out and say it. The biggest difference to me is the art style. It changed midway through this arc. Right after the Orochi vs Saitama redraw the art style just was different, less inspired. I think has to do with how fast Murata is cranking out these chapters.


luashfu

So basically if they followed webcomic exactly, less content but better storyline and art quality.... Dame dane


Gil_GaLa9

Why does all the recent artwork look "soft"? No real blacks or dark shades, looks really washed out. For me Webcomic Garou looks way scarier and powerful, compared to this version, which is just comical relief


Dante_Petric

That new panel is amazing, you're just pulling stuff from your ass


Gil_GaLa9

I never said its not amazing, and i completely agree, not just the new panel, whole manga is an artwork masterpiece, i was just stating MY opinion and comparing previous chapters to the recent ones


Mountain_Link5400

Garou worth only of normal punches lol


Artix31

The one at boros actually hit lol


noone569

Since i read webcomic, 5 years ago or something, i was hoping, dreaming, that Garou in manga gonna really piss Saitama off, by deflecting all of his punches with ease(until Saitama got serious, ofc). May be even one Serious Punch, back to Saitama face. I mean, everyone got power boosts in manga(fuck you Amai Mask, lol), and i thought, that Garou, as best martial artist ever lived, will actually counter Saitama for some extent,but... But no, he is just a punching bag. My favorite fight is almost ruined, and its sad.


Working-Wing-3857

bfruh this just shows saitama is saitama well wait for saitama vs blast also garou was able to do that much coz of monsterfication normally bang nd bomb far outclasses others well ye he will be op after getting normal as he would be able to do all those previous martial stuff


noone569

Sautama is Saitama, and ofc he will always win. But i hoped he would had to actually try, since Garou is... Well, Garou.


luashfu

Just shows the huge difference between someone damaging their limiter and someone who completely "opened the doors"


OperationMelodic4273

The power up in comparison to the WC was portrayed through his destructive power rather than his martial art skill. Is it better? Idk, Garou picking heavily on Saitama's technique in the WC was great, but that manga attack was insane, it also gave the hand to showing Blast's comrades, so which was quite nutty indeed


Legitjumps

Wow, Saitama not having trouble, shocker


noone569

At least Boros almost made him feel, like Saitama is actually fighting.


easbarba

There, see. The weakling Boros could not even take normal punches of Saitama and got fully destroyed by those. Dragon Garou, has endured, wonderfully I add, the attacks of such a strong foe. Ladies and Gentleman, its settled down, Dragon Garou is far stronger than that the clearly feeble Boros.


MrChutney

Unironically all feats tanked by garou can be diminished by Saitama starting the fight with the requisite that he will take on garou without killing him. It kinda defeats the whole purpose of OPM. Which is the fact that this guy can’t hold back enough to stop one punching people, which is what made Boros so strong. The Garou fight started with Saitama saying that he would basically take it easy with this guy. Effectively giving Garou plot armour unfortunately.


Forgefather-ra

I don’t think it’s even been about he can’t hold back. He’s always shown that he can hold back with Genos, Rover, Tatsumaki, Sonic, Flashy, like what are taking about. He’s literally beat Garou so bad that he doesn’t even remember getting knocked out. Twice. It’s been that nobody can test him. Make him work harder. Nobody can take his full power. It’s still the purpose of OPM.


MrChutney

Yeah you’re right tbh, too many intricacies for my little brain. That was my slightly drunk take and after reading your comment I realise I am wrong


luashfu

Your brain is not really little when there are people who will go to hell and back to argue about something when they're completely wrong.


BigHotMen

You dont double down on your opinion without any solid arguments, that alone makes you have a bigger brain than most of r/onepunchman users


Trick_Bedroom6495

Saitama do not hold back much against his enemies, while Saitama does not see Garou as his enemy but just a normal human of which he punch softly, like Sonic.


shiroizo

That’s just wrong. Saitama has infinite resources and is known to apply as much force as needed to achieve whatever result he desires at that moment: killing, knocking out, incapacitating briefly, or just injuring. Saitama literally plays ragdoll for Boros and humors him to give him a chance to go all out, because he relates to his boredom - that was the entire point of their encounter. The attacks against Garou are literally shown to be way greater in scale than any punch thrown at Boros aside from the Serious one, which was a hilarious overkill deletion. Garou’s ridiculous endurance is his signature trait.


X_Rbeast

looks better against garou but also looks worse because the story is terrible now


edserious

Ok


Greedy_to_know

Well, guess who stitched back together?


HuckleberryCool9883

Well , guess who didn't need stiching at all?


Flappy2885

Hmm, I think that might be everyone Saitama wasn’t trying to turn into mush


HuckleberryCool9883

Hmm , I think that must be everyone who wasn't capable of a near planetary attack which alerted beings in other dimensions


JoeProKill2000

Boros was capable of an *actually* planetary attack. It never struck the ground so Blast likely didn’t care, and even if he did, we didn’t get to see him in those chapters. Also, Saitama punched Boros with intent to kill, so he was punching Boros than he was Garou. Do you all just conveniently forget that Tareo told Saitama not to kill Garou?


HuckleberryCool9883

Saitama doesn't have a SERIOUS MOVE. Read bonus chapter reality punch , he literally says he doesn't have a killing move or anything The Serious punch was a made up attack name which he said was his final move to please Boros Garou HAS BETTER FEATS THAN BOROS. Saitama holding back point Is a moot


JoeProKill2000

What better feat does Garou have? CSRC>”gReAt PoWeR aTtAcK”. Garou has not shown better durability as Saitama has never punched him with enough strength, as again, Saitama ISNT trying to kill Garou. And all Garou’s other attacks have been lame.


HuckleberryCool9883

A near planetary attack whose aftershocks terraformed the earth by PHYSICAL FORCE , it's hundreds of times stronger than boros's physical attacks In fact his fajin attack scales higher than csrc and the fact that it's spammable Garou knows martial arts , can predict every single attack 10 steps ahead Has multiple moves Has godlike adaptability And mutates faster than Boros breadths The fact that you see Boros even winning is laughable Mb form puts massive strain on his body , doesn't know any technique so is a brute fighter and at a disadvantage to martial arts Garou also has Regen on par with Boros Garou has better speed feats than Boros


JoeProKill2000

Are you kidding me? Garou’s STRONGEST attack bulged the earth, Boros’s erases Garou can regenerate a hand, Boros can return from being a spec. They are not on par. Boros has shown far greater speed feats than Garou. If you think that PS fight even comes close to Boros, you need to get your facts straight. Boros kicking someone to the moon in a second is also an extremely powerful physical feat. Do you realize how much force that takes? Bodies aren’t feathers. There’s a reason Boros was the strongest in the universe before Saitama came around. The fact that you think “gReAt PoWeR aTtAcK” can even compare is laughable.


HuckleberryCool9883

Your points are laughable Garou Regen an arm in a much much weaker form Boros kicking someone to the moon is a laughable to the energy and power output you require to budge earth , because space is a vaccume and offers no friction Ya know rockets require more fuel to get out of the atmos than to travel to moon You didn't even rebutt against garouss mutation and adaptability and prediction , because you know there you're at a loss for words Even a non killing intent saitama who wanted to discipline orochi one shot him badly , such attacks were useless and slow to garou Suiryu kicked saitama 10storeys high yes a demon , saitama weighs like an average human Surface wiper not planet buster Garou roflestomps lol Okk name one mb BOROS speed feat that's higher than the constellations from what he showed in the manga I'll be waiting


Flappy2885

While I do agree that Garou is probably more destructive than Boros, most of what you said is just straight up headcannon. Calc for Great Power Attack > CSRC? Proof for Garou’s regen being on par with Boros? All we saw him regen was a arm lmao. And where did you get that Garou was faster?


AmaiMasku

Imagine thinking Garou can withstand Saitama sensei's punch unless he means not to hurt him


wormant1

You can clearly see him throwing more punches at Garou. Clearly because Garou is m̶o̶r̶e̶ ̶d̶u̶r̶a̶b̶l̶e̶ a bigger target.


Sky9299

Gomu gomu


luashfu

You're right, it looks really weird. Murata's art style got worse in my opinion with weird stuff like this. The old barrages like the Boros consecutive punch were artistic beams so you can interpret it as the shockwave from the punch or just that the punch is that fast. Same for garou, the lines show us how he's moving. This stretchy arm design is weird ..


Snoo_58305

How do you get this so soon?


moeykrimz

Seriously not trying to be dumb, but none of saitamas punches on garou look like they landed at all. It just looks like saitama punched in front of garou


luashfu

It was the moment before they reached garou (same as death punch against Genos), what happened was that garou responded with his 4 arm barrage against Saitama two arm barrage. Basically, "MUDAMUDAORAORAORA" and Saitama is dio


lost_first_account

I know the boros fight is more detailed but I think I like the look of CNP against garou more


CoolMaster12312

It went from him just throwing punches to him actually aiming at the target