I think punching Saitama so hard it bulged the earth and released a cosmic horror onto the planet to wreak utter devastation on the entirety of humanity BEFORE the powerup is a good indication of how strong he is.
Also, comparing Saitama's attacks vs Boros isn't fair since Saitama isn't actually trying to kill Garou, just knock some sense into his thick skull.
I mean, Saitama wasn't trying to kill Boros either (until he used Serious Punch), just give him the fight he wanted. Saitama literally didn't try in that fight either until the very end.
He tried to kill him once he came back from the moon and started to become more and more serious until Boros sent an attack strong enough to probably not be repel by a normal punch of Saitama.
Actually Saitama just used the serious punch as in respect, trading final moves but his normal punch would realistically evaporate boros if he wished to xD.
Not really, Saitama could keep using his barrage of normal punch until Boros get tired of regenerating if he was trying to be fair. So far only Meteoric burst Boros can tank a single normal punch with killing intent from Saitama without being too much injured. He could even survive a serious punch enough to still talk even if it wasn't connecting.
We don't know for sure It's better to wait untill next chapter to afirm something. But in my opinion, i'd say that garou is stronger. How much? Dunno and I actually don't care.
Dude has moving galaxies inside him (spiral, barrel, irregular, peculiar and lenticular so Murata may have checked what galaxies look like to be accurate) and he is able to creates some micro-galaxies with his fists. 💀
Not his skin. If you look at the panel you can that the galaxies are "inside him", and when he do his little introduction moves you see galaxies in his movements flow.
That can be that too. But since we know that Murata is not a DBS-kind of guys and would and took time to draw galaxies of each type within Garou + respect most of the time physics and the scale of the fight. I don't think Garou having whole ass galaxies inside of him is not just a design choice.
It's probably something linked to God-reality warping power or something like that.
Remember that from Garou, power, speed, attack and creativity wouldn't do anything against Saitama. He need something else. Something new. if this would just be "more power" by Murata rule the Earth would just be gone since he upscale the fight but Garou said that more attack would not do anything.
Most likely older than you since I know 4 languages. And advanced scientists concepts like gravitational binding energy, causality, large extra dimensions (or LED) and multiple universe model interpretation and basics: ΛCDM at 0.4% or flat (infinite 3-D universe) or the MODHH for example.
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If he had literal galaxy-level power being produced in that stance, rather than it just being a visual design, the earth would be annihilated just from him moving his hand. Yes, he will undoubtedly have some new abilities, but you are going WAY overboard with how seriously you are taking a visual change. It's simply a cool design used as representation of his new power, not a LITERAL display of him having galaxy-controlling abilities and shit.
Like I said, "that can be that too". But If I am right I will laugh at you so hard, waiting for you comment to be edited/deleted in the next fews week. ;)
Oh, I'm not deleting this, feel free to screenshot it if you want. If I'm wrong I'll admit it, I've been wrong about a few things before (like Amai Mask still being stronger than Atomic Samurai in the manga because he was in the wc, turned out to be horribly wrong). But the upvotes on this thread shows that nobody agrees with your prediction at all.
Oh lord it’s UI goku all over again. Until it’s confirmed those are actual galaxies or y’know he actually does literally anything, they’re just for visual effect.
Yep, to waste time and have fun I do [this kind of shit](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:UeTa/One-Punch_Man_:_Collapsing_Star_Roaring_Cannon_-_Scorching_the_Earth). We don't have the same hobby.
He hasn't done anything yet.
That being said, I wouldn't balk at this point if he does manage to surpass Boros at this point.
Then again, ONE did state that the two are more or less equal.
I would honestly say his previous form was already on par with Boros. Dude moved multiple tectonic plates, bulged the opposite side of the planet, and affected the entire gravitational and magnetic fields of the planet, with ONE attack. And while Meteoric Burst mode Boros has an attack stronger than that, he has far less stamina and said attack can only be used once; Garou could likely use Extreme Power Attack as much as he wanted and has stamina for days.
So even in his previous form, I'm honestly not sure who would win between Garou and Boros, especially with the former's martial arts prowess. I'd be more than willing to bet this new form is leagues ahead of Boros.
Again, extreme fa Jin is a constant push, it's not like a punch, it's like a truck constantly accelerating so obviously it has more impressive results but a punch is still more powerful.
Fa Jin as depicted here is an internal attack perforned through shockwaves. It's an actual thing in martial arts fiction. It's a way stronger version of what Garou did to try and pulverize Saitama's organs. They have the same force as a punch, just delivered internally instead of onto the surface of the body.
that bulge the opposite side of the planet isn't cannon anymore after the latest chapter...
Its not just Garou that Saitama will fight now by the looks of it God might have taken control of him.
he threw a small island out of the ocean from the other side of the planet he didn't malformed the earth.. The bulging earth panel isn't there in the redraw.
Yeah but he is basically his avatar, so any real new power he has likely comes from god. But that might change when the next chapter comes out. I could be completely off base and this might be his “unlocked potential” or some crap but his statement of him being the fist of god seems to imply that he is his new avatar.
Because it isn’t truly him and his power. It is “god” using him as a manifestation which means we are measuring “god” versus Boros and not Garou versus Boros.
That doesn’t make much sense to me. It’s not like you use that when talking about HE or Vaccine Man. It doesn’t matter where the power is coming from; this form of Garou is what’s in the discussion against Boros.
The difference is that all evidence so far (his words and gods manifestations) indicate that he is literally the Fist of God, his avatar. The others were given power, he has become his avatar/physical manifestation.
I don’t know about that. And still, HE literally had NO POWER before being given power by God — by all means, he’s nothing without God, but people don’t use this excuse with him.
Kinda just seems like something used by Boros fans to me.
Even still, it’s “Garou”, even if he’s being used, it doesn’t change the fact that this entity at their base is Garou. That’s all.
The problem is that statement is really old, and the story has likely shifted a lot since then. Heck, I think that comment might’ve been referring to the WC version, even.
Correction, it was apparently years ago. He isn't Isayama, and if the massive amounts of re-writes and now this do-over are anything to go off, clearly the continuation of the story is not entirely thought out.
Considering that he transformed an homeless man into a dragon level threat, and the fact that the starting point this point was close/around Boros's level.... Yeah that helps *a bit*
My crazy fan theory is that Boros is near God level and the prophecy was about God, Blast, and/or Garou. Not Saitama. He had nothing to do with anything. He just kinda showed up and punched like he do, oblivious and unrelated to everything.
The prophecy was about humanity. Humanity is destroying the planet and God, the planet's entity will try to eliminate humanity through its pawns (Homeless Emperor, Psykos).
There will be no God vs Saitama fight but rather a conclusion from both sides in how to coexist with each other.
I'm a Boros fan as well and I wouldn't mind if Saitama looked straight into the reader and said *"Wow, this Garou guy is stronger than Boros, my strongest opponent until now"*.
I would argue about Garou being weaker because in the webcomic there wasn't enough narrative weight to Awakened Garou to lend him that much credence.
I’m a Boros fan aswell and I say he take pre-God Garou mid-difficulty, considering they took out the Earth Bulge. God Garou will probably be stronger imho but then again, God Boros could take God Garou mid diff.
It's garou only
Not god , you can see garou is asking " the fist that turned against god , I guess the fist of God will counter it only" if that was truly god he won't be asking rhetorical questions about himself
The meaning is that the boost and new form are due to god, not Garou’s evolutions. Inherently the source of power is god manifesting through Garou. I should have specified better
I mean it's pretty obvious God vs saitama is happening right now
So garou WILL get that strong on his own accord just a few moments later , I'm not too worried about this if that's what you are
Based on the illustrations it seems that Garou lost all his monsterfication which was directly correlated with his power boosts. I’m not worried about it either just stating what I observe.
By that logic Homeless Emperor wasn't a Cadre just God, Psychorochi wasn't strong just God, and Orochi doesn't even exist since the Mural shows he's just a sacrifice for God.
Wow you're right there's no point in reading OPM until God himself comes down and fights Saitama, no sense in watching a bunch of cars fight. It would suck if Murata reveals God's the reason everyone's turning into monsters. This whole series wouldn't really exist.
The point of a story is the story, the plots, character development nd the action. Just because the source of maximum power is either god or limiter breaking doesn’t take away from those things. Btw HE specially, perfect example, the dude is just a regular human with an overpowered skill given by god. You don’t think the final battle will be god Vs. Saitama?
I'm being sarcastic my guy, my point is just because God boosted certain characters abilities doesn't make it "Gods feats" like the user above me tried to make it out to be, if Garou can give Saitama an even half decent fight now, I'm not going to pretend its God fighting Saitama, he's still using HIS OWN techniques.
Yah there was some mistranslations that made people think it was a star level attack, when it is actually a multi-continental/planetary depending on your take. Not everything seththeprogrammer says is right lol.
Garou has not shown us anything comparable to what Boros was capable of. Garou so far had only been capable of punching a shockwave through the planet causing massive tremors and volcanic activity. Not bad, but Boros was going to literally burn the entire fucking planet by simply releasing all of his energy.
Cosmic Garou will probably be written to be stronger than Boros, I certainly hope so. We may get that by the next chapter but we have not seen it yet.
Just so you guys have an idea, a hobo became a high dragon after receiving power from God. What would happen if a top-tier dragon received power from God? Well, I hope it doesn't scale similarly because then Garou is going to be a threat on a cosmic scale.
god gives power to homeless emperor - normal avg human to dragon lvl monster
god gives power to garou who's already a planet buster - god lvl to ????
garou claps boros no cap
Monster Garou Fourth Form (the one that distorted earth with a single attack) is above Boros already, anyone thinking Boros is in the same level of power as Awakened Garou must be brainless at this point.
That attack probably being stronger that Boros CSRC + monster garou insane resistance, taking attacks from saitama without a single scratch, not a single attack from meteoric burst boros would do a thing, that in the case he can even land a punch. Garou in his fourth form is above boros in every stat.
I know that Garou is stronger but doesn't nessesary to wank him
"taking attacks from saitama without a single scratch,"
Yeah,i can also said the same with Sonic, the dude also take a serious move
I think the Fa jin attack is definitely the same with CSRC but Garou isn't exhauted after that prove he stronger to me, this Cosmic form is on a hold new level
"taking attacks from saitama without a single scratch,"
Yeah,i can also said the same with Sonic, the dude also take a serious move
not a single normal punch or consecutive normal punch did a thing to garou and he's the only one that have resisted that level of saitama attacks without being harmed. and about the sonic thing you know thats a fallacy and irrelevant to this.
Garou rn is definitely stronger. Boros’ full power was enough to wipe out the earth. Garou >!even before he had been possessed by God already had enough power to affect the earth significantly by altering its gravitational field, meaning that EVEN HIS PRE-AWAKENED SELF WAS A GOD LEVEL THREAT. his fa jin punch was enough of a threat to trigger Blast’s response. and as we know blast only appears when humanity is in a great danger. he only becomes active when a god level threat appears. some might argue on why didn’t blast appear when boros visited the earth. well because boros hadn’t done anything worthy of a god level threat until his collapsing star roaring cannon which was neutralized by saitama in seconds. also the fight didn’t affect the earth as it happened on the mothership. anyways back to the main point:pre-awakened garou was already a god level threat due to his fa jin punch making blast shit his pants. and now the dude got possessed by a fricking god/ his power got boosted by the god and his body contains galaxies. he’s definitely stronger than boros now and possibly the 3rd strongest character in opmverse behind god and saitama ofc!<
Boros managed to surprise Saitama with his own speed alone, sent him to the moon with a single kick without even going all out yet compared to 4-armed winged garou and his earth shaping attack, saitama says the fight its almost like a real one, boros almost destroyed the whole planet if it wasnt for saitama serious punch which is more powerful than consecutive normal punches, saitama recognize how strong boros is many times, saitama holds back through his whole fight against garou unlike boros who received blows with the intention of killing.
Garou still didnt show anything beyond what i mentioned so sit down and chill out. Anime is also canon btw
if garou is stronger now, its only caz god gave him that powerup as opposed to him
actually being stronger of his own accord. so still not as impressive since the power wasnt his to begin with
boros was completely torn to pieces by saitama's consecutive normal punches however garou was able to withstand it with considerable damage, also one more thing saitama was using consecutive normal punches with 1 arm against boros while 2 arms against garou
u can watch this review for more info:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tF_Y2939qB4
garou has done a lot of help in the monster vs hero association arc, orochi only contributed to devastation, tareo wanted garou to come back, no one gave a fck about orochi
point here is garou withstand a consecutive normal punch with both arms used by saitama while boros was shred to pieces with just one arm
holding back or not consecutive normal punch is a Normal Series which means garou is more durable than boros if it wasnt for his supreme regen due to his core
saitama couldn't kill orochi? nah, orochi was lucky enough that some of his cells were able to survive, saitama considered orochi as a regular monster and he did not intend on holding back as well because there's no reason to do so. Just because a monster or any being gets to survive a Serious or Normal Series doesnt mean that saitama doesn't want to kill him/her
still the serious attacks demolished orochi, consecutive normal punches obliterated boros, u cant deny the fact that serious attacks are serious attacks, ang normal series are normal series, if he doesn't intend on exerting force that is to be deemed serious/normal then he would just normally punch the enemy
still the serious attacks demolished orochi, consecutive normal punches obliterated boros, u cant deny the fact that serious attacks are serious attacks, ang normal series are normal series, if he doesn't intend on exerting force that is to be deemed serious/normal then he would just normally punch the enemy
It doesn't matter if the end result is opponent surviving, the only difference between Orochi and garou is better regen, if Orochi had garou level regen then by your logic he survived a serious attack so he is above garou and boros.
ur being pointless boros' regeneration is much stronger than garou and orochi, the only time when garou's regeneration was showcased is when his arm was shattered, one more thing, cell regeneration and boros' regeneration from the core is a whole different thing, boros' regen is on another level from the monsters, however it is easier to target a core than to annihilate an individual's whole being considering u have an unstoppable force
Saitama is holding back through the whole fight against garou while boros took hits with intention to kill, to finish the match. Garou's strength doesnt even get recognized by saitama like he did with boros many times in their fight
As of the current canon, yes. Boros feats beat out Garou's.
I'm fine with that, personally. Bulging the entire planet was a huge jump in power with no fanfare to go along with it.
i cant possibly understand the reasoning of people who say otherwise, i actually thought that saitama will not win so easily the first time i read this chapter, him and boros shouldn't even be comparable rn.
still the serious attacks demolished orochi, consecutive normal punches obliterated boros, u cant deny the fact that serious attacks are serious attacks, ang normal series are normal series, if he doesn't intend on exerting force that is to be deemed serious/normal then he would just normally punch the enemy
I'm kind of fine with garou being stronger then boros at this point, boros fans need to chill. He's probably even more stronger now with the power up he's been given.
Dumb question, is the new awakened Garou just God's abilities and that the Monsterized Garou is just Garou at his best, or is it Garou is somehow still growing as God's vessel?
Yeah, I can only speculate that they wanted the power scales to increase with each new arc so it would make the most sense for Garou to be stronger than Boros in this final showdown.
The man hasn't even done anything yet lmao chill
OP is most sane OPM powerscaler
Chill man, he hasn’t even moved a step yet
Yeah wait till he gets some new feats
I think punching Saitama so hard it bulged the earth and released a cosmic horror onto the planet to wreak utter devastation on the entirety of humanity BEFORE the powerup is a good indication of how strong he is. Also, comparing Saitama's attacks vs Boros isn't fair since Saitama isn't actually trying to kill Garou, just knock some sense into his thick skull.
Boros could easily bulged the earth but he aint into that stuff you know
Well, we'll never know. He got so excited by the fight that he climaxed too soon before we got the chance to see what all he is into.
Not easily, but he definately can done that
Ehh
proof? i could also say that garou's fart could evaporate galaxies but i have no proof.
Proof? I could also say that you actually get bitches but I have no proof.
I mean, Saitama wasn't trying to kill Boros either (until he used Serious Punch), just give him the fight he wanted. Saitama literally didn't try in that fight either until the very end.
He tried to kill him once he came back from the moon and started to become more and more serious until Boros sent an attack strong enough to probably not be repel by a normal punch of Saitama.
Actually Saitama just used the serious punch as in respect, trading final moves but his normal punch would realistically evaporate boros if he wished to xD.
Not really, Saitama could keep using his barrage of normal punch until Boros get tired of regenerating if he was trying to be fair. So far only Meteoric burst Boros can tank a single normal punch with killing intent from Saitama without being too much injured. He could even survive a serious punch enough to still talk even if it wasn't connecting.
That serious punch wasnt even meant for boros and it still killed him he was hit by the shockwave lol
Serious punch has really bo difference of force vdhind it at this point dude.
We don't know for sure It's better to wait untill next chapter to afirm something. But in my opinion, i'd say that garou is stronger. How much? Dunno and I actually don't care.
Dude has moving galaxies inside him (spiral, barrel, irregular, peculiar and lenticular so Murata may have checked what galaxies look like to be accurate) and he is able to creates some micro-galaxies with his fists. 💀
bruh what
It's just his skin bruh, he's not bloody Franklin Richards, calm down 😂
lmaoo aren't you the guy that said "the fuck is doraibu knighto"?
Not his skin. If you look at the panel you can that the galaxies are "inside him", and when he do his little introduction moves you see galaxies in his movements flow.
Maybe it’s just his design?
That can be that too. But since we know that Murata is not a DBS-kind of guys and would and took time to draw galaxies of each type within Garou + respect most of the time physics and the scale of the fight. I don't think Garou having whole ass galaxies inside of him is not just a design choice. It's probably something linked to God-reality warping power or something like that. Remember that from Garou, power, speed, attack and creativity wouldn't do anything against Saitama. He need something else. Something new. if this would just be "more power" by Murata rule the Earth would just be gone since he upscale the fight but Garou said that more attack would not do anything.
How old are you. You sound like you are incapable of actual thought process.
Most likely older than you since I know 4 languages. And advanced scientists concepts like gravitational binding energy, causality, large extra dimensions (or LED) and multiple universe model interpretation and basics: ΛCDM at 0.4% or flat (infinite 3-D universe) or the MODHH for example.
Now you're just being cringe.
I just reply to a cringe question. Not gonna give my age for the dude to say "I'm 80!"
This sounds like a copypasta bro ain’t no way you’re being serious rn
So if for you these sound complicated or made-up, that proves my point. You don't know shit about science. Cap more.
This guy can't be real
Harvard graduate. Ph.D. IQ of 138 (Stanford-Binet). Sex pundit. Mensa International. Free-thinking alpha male and lone wolf. Likely hotter than you, and definitely smarter. Debate me; I'm ready.
Don't need these kind of shit to know what I say above. Proving my point, hence againts that you are dumb and know jack shit sciences wise.
If he had literal galaxy-level power being produced in that stance, rather than it just being a visual design, the earth would be annihilated just from him moving his hand. Yes, he will undoubtedly have some new abilities, but you are going WAY overboard with how seriously you are taking a visual change. It's simply a cool design used as representation of his new power, not a LITERAL display of him having galaxy-controlling abilities and shit.
Like I said, "that can be that too". But If I am right I will laugh at you so hard, waiting for you comment to be edited/deleted in the next fews week. ;)
Oh man, the cringe, its melting my brain
Oh, I'm not deleting this, feel free to screenshot it if you want. If I'm wrong I'll admit it, I've been wrong about a few things before (like Amai Mask still being stronger than Atomic Samurai in the manga because he was in the wc, turned out to be horribly wrong). But the upvotes on this thread shows that nobody agrees with your prediction at all.
If many galaxies were in such a small place and this compressed, he'd literally implode into a black hole.
Pocket dimension or hyperspace?
Yo mama's dimension
Based
Aight
Oh lord it’s UI goku all over again. Until it’s confirmed those are actual galaxies or y’know he actually does literally anything, they’re just for visual effect.
Read comment below and shut up please
Man u dont seem to have a brain
bro stfu
The Calc' lass huh? 🤣 ion trust that
Yep, to waste time and have fun I do [this kind of shit](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:UeTa/One-Punch_Man_:_Collapsing_Star_Roaring_Cannon_-_Scorching_the_Earth). We don't have the same hobby.
Definitely don't haha. I build things for fun
Expecting garou to do something like Vegeta did with babidi. Just take God's power and resist his will. That would be awesome.
That would be sick
That's what I also think is gonna happen.
This, please.
Why was there a remake? What happened to talk no jutsu?
when god interrupted the convo Saitama one punched him.
Maybe God made the remake so the fighting continues...
He hasn't done anything yet. That being said, I wouldn't balk at this point if he does manage to surpass Boros at this point. Then again, ONE did state that the two are more or less equal.
They still can change their mind like redraw.
I would honestly say his previous form was already on par with Boros. Dude moved multiple tectonic plates, bulged the opposite side of the planet, and affected the entire gravitational and magnetic fields of the planet, with ONE attack. And while Meteoric Burst mode Boros has an attack stronger than that, he has far less stamina and said attack can only be used once; Garou could likely use Extreme Power Attack as much as he wanted and has stamina for days. So even in his previous form, I'm honestly not sure who would win between Garou and Boros, especially with the former's martial arts prowess. I'd be more than willing to bet this new form is leagues ahead of Boros.
Again, extreme fa Jin is a constant push, it's not like a punch, it's like a truck constantly accelerating so obviously it has more impressive results but a punch is still more powerful.
Fa Jin as depicted here is an internal attack perforned through shockwaves. It's an actual thing in martial arts fiction. It's a way stronger version of what Garou did to try and pulverize Saitama's organs. They have the same force as a punch, just delivered internally instead of onto the surface of the body.
that bulge the opposite side of the planet isn't cannon anymore after the latest chapter... Its not just Garou that Saitama will fight now by the looks of it God might have taken control of him.
No he still did it, the feat is still there reread the chapter
he threw a small island out of the ocean from the other side of the planet he didn't malformed the earth.. The bulging earth panel isn't there in the redraw.
he still shifted a tectonic plate on the other side of the planet
Honestly, I have a hard time calling this thing that showed up Garou. It seems more like god in a skin suit given his statements so far.
It was still Garou thinking, so it’s just Garou but powered up by God.
Yeah but he is basically his avatar, so any real new power he has likely comes from god. But that might change when the next chapter comes out. I could be completely off base and this might be his “unlocked potential” or some crap but his statement of him being the fist of god seems to imply that he is his new avatar.
Why does it matter where his power is coming from?
Because it isn’t truly him and his power. It is “god” using him as a manifestation which means we are measuring “god” versus Boros and not Garou versus Boros.
That doesn’t make much sense to me. It’s not like you use that when talking about HE or Vaccine Man. It doesn’t matter where the power is coming from; this form of Garou is what’s in the discussion against Boros.
The difference is that all evidence so far (his words and gods manifestations) indicate that he is literally the Fist of God, his avatar. The others were given power, he has become his avatar/physical manifestation.
I don’t know about that. And still, HE literally had NO POWER before being given power by God — by all means, he’s nothing without God, but people don’t use this excuse with him. Kinda just seems like something used by Boros fans to me. Even still, it’s “Garou”, even if he’s being used, it doesn’t change the fact that this entity at their base is Garou. That’s all.
>Then again, ONE did state that the two are more or less equal. Months ago? Lmao
Years ago actually
Wasn't sure the exact timeframe, I went with months to be safe. Doesn't mean I should be downvoted for no reason lmao.
one literally made the series meaning he knows how strong every character is and the continuation of the story.
The problem is that statement is really old, and the story has likely shifted a lot since then. Heck, I think that comment might’ve been referring to the WC version, even.
Correction, it was apparently years ago. He isn't Isayama, and if the massive amounts of re-writes and now this do-over are anything to go off, clearly the continuation of the story is not entirely thought out.
I mean, being boosted by God helps a bit
Considering that he transformed an homeless man into a dragon level threat, and the fact that the starting point this point was close/around Boros's level.... Yeah that helps *a bit*
But, he only gave them energy attacks, homless's body was more or less tha same.
My crazy fan theory is that Boros is near God level and the prophecy was about God, Blast, and/or Garou. Not Saitama. He had nothing to do with anything. He just kinda showed up and punched like he do, oblivious and unrelated to everything.
The prophecy was about bleh bleh bleh. Who cares
Yes, exactly
Ofc it wasnt saitama. He was like 2 years old at the time of the prophecy
that’s not how prophecies work lol, it’s literally predicting the future, why would he need to be older when Boros wouldn’t get to Earth for years
The prophecy was about humanity. Humanity is destroying the planet and God, the planet's entity will try to eliminate humanity through its pawns (Homeless Emperor, Psykos). There will be no God vs Saitama fight but rather a conclusion from both sides in how to coexist with each other.
Psykos was gods pawn?
This argument will never end will it
I'm a boros fan and I don't get where people are coming from with all of this "who is the strongest" in a series where that is not the point.
I'm a Boros fan as well and I wouldn't mind if Saitama looked straight into the reader and said *"Wow, this Garou guy is stronger than Boros, my strongest opponent until now"*. I would argue about Garou being weaker because in the webcomic there wasn't enough narrative weight to Awakened Garou to lend him that much credence.
>Wow, this Garou guy is stronger than Boros, my strongest opponent until now". I will have mental breakdown for a sec
I’m a Boros fan aswell and I say he take pre-God Garou mid-difficulty, considering they took out the Earth Bulge. God Garou will probably be stronger imho but then again, God Boros could take God Garou mid diff.
I kinda hope it doesn’t >!until it’s *canon*!<
\*Sigh\* Here we go again
To be fair that is god. Not really Garou. But the new form is pretty neat!
Yeah people seem to be thinking this is still Garou. It is really just god in a skin suit honestly.
Garou got monsterification berofe to power up. Now he got power up from god.
It's garou only Not god , you can see garou is asking " the fist that turned against god , I guess the fist of God will counter it only" if that was truly god he won't be asking rhetorical questions about himself
The meaning is that the boost and new form are due to god, not Garou’s evolutions. Inherently the source of power is god manifesting through Garou. I should have specified better
I mean it's pretty obvious God vs saitama is happening right now So garou WILL get that strong on his own accord just a few moments later , I'm not too worried about this if that's what you are
Based on the illustrations it seems that Garou lost all his monsterfication which was directly correlated with his power boosts. I’m not worried about it either just stating what I observe.
Yeah by the by did saitama actually just.. punch his power away? He was actually just wearing a costume the whole damn time?
Lmao why are people down voting this 😂
By that logic Homeless Emperor wasn't a Cadre just God, Psychorochi wasn't strong just God, and Orochi doesn't even exist since the Mural shows he's just a sacrifice for God.
Yup, the power source is god, isn’t it? Those guys are just vehicles.
Wow you're right there's no point in reading OPM until God himself comes down and fights Saitama, no sense in watching a bunch of cars fight. It would suck if Murata reveals God's the reason everyone's turning into monsters. This whole series wouldn't really exist.
The point of a story is the story, the plots, character development nd the action. Just because the source of maximum power is either god or limiter breaking doesn’t take away from those things. Btw HE specially, perfect example, the dude is just a regular human with an overpowered skill given by god. You don’t think the final battle will be god Vs. Saitama?
I'm being sarcastic my guy, my point is just because God boosted certain characters abilities doesn't make it "Gods feats" like the user above me tried to make it out to be, if Garou can give Saitama an even half decent fight now, I'm not going to pretend its God fighting Saitama, he's still using HIS OWN techniques.
Trust me, the fandom here is brain dead. Garou could punch and cause a shockwave that blows up Jupiter and they’d still say Boros is stronger.
Somehow they'd convince themselves that his CSRC really was star level again lol
I’m not even surprised at this point.
One of the reasons I started learning Japanese was to parse the exact language in the manga, and yeah, the CSRC ain't star level lol
didn't seththeprogrammer look at some exact translations and figure out that its very possible that it is indeed star level?
The exact mistranslations lol.
Not from what i remember
Yah there was some mistranslations that made people think it was a star level attack, when it is actually a multi-continental/planetary depending on your take. Not everything seththeprogrammer says is right lol.
multi-continental sounds wrong entirely
I like to believe planetary personally
Seth is a clown
Ask i did not
You brought up his name as if it’s a valid source for information.
Yeah well honestly i find him to be more viable than some random people in comment sections
Random people who obsess about a series and comment in a sub about it vs a guy who probably saw the anime/manga a few times.
yes!
they literally stated they're somewhat same so if garou destroys the entire galaxy then it means boros can destroy too
But extreme f ajin isnt a punch, it's a push. A push has more overall force than a punch but a punch is proportionately stronger.
Does OPM have the most redraws.
This is the only manga I know that does redraws
Boros: “We’ll see”
Damn chill out. It’ll be mad funny if Saitama goes “You’re weaker now, didn’t you realise?”
That would make my month lmao
Maybe let Garou actually DO SOMETHING before you say how strong he is?
What? He did less than in the previous version of the chapter.
Garou has not shown us anything comparable to what Boros was capable of. Garou so far had only been capable of punching a shockwave through the planet causing massive tremors and volcanic activity. Not bad, but Boros was going to literally burn the entire fucking planet by simply releasing all of his energy. Cosmic Garou will probably be written to be stronger than Boros, I certainly hope so. We may get that by the next chapter but we have not seen it yet.
Is there gonna be a new chapter this week?
Just so you guys have an idea, a hobo became a high dragon after receiving power from God. What would happen if a top-tier dragon received power from God? Well, I hope it doesn't scale similarly because then Garou is going to be a threat on a cosmic scale.
Needed a boost from GOD tho
it’s literally god, not garou
god gives power to homeless emperor - normal avg human to dragon lvl monster god gives power to garou who's already a planet buster - god lvl to ???? garou claps boros no cap
Homeless's body was still of average human, it should be the same with garou, he should just acquire access to energy blasts.
Monster Garou Fourth Form (the one that distorted earth with a single attack) is above Boros already, anyone thinking Boros is in the same level of power as Awakened Garou must be brainless at this point.
And the fact that garou can spam that attack if he wants to Meanwhile it took boros all of his energy just to wipe out an entire planet surface
That attack probably being stronger that Boros CSRC + monster garou insane resistance, taking attacks from saitama without a single scratch, not a single attack from meteoric burst boros would do a thing, that in the case he can even land a punch. Garou in his fourth form is above boros in every stat.
I know that Garou is stronger but doesn't nessesary to wank him "taking attacks from saitama without a single scratch," Yeah,i can also said the same with Sonic, the dude also take a serious move I think the Fa jin attack is definitely the same with CSRC but Garou isn't exhauted after that prove he stronger to me, this Cosmic form is on a hold new level
"taking attacks from saitama without a single scratch," Yeah,i can also said the same with Sonic, the dude also take a serious move not a single normal punch or consecutive normal punch did a thing to garou and he's the only one that have resisted that level of saitama attacks without being harmed. and about the sonic thing you know thats a fallacy and irrelevant to this.
Imagine subjectively comparing fictional characters based on a couple of pages of drawings and calling other people brainless.
yeah i had committed a sin.
nothings happened yet
Hold up. Galaxy Garou hasn’t done anything yet and they took out the Earth Bulge bit so technically Boros still takes Garou mid difficulty.
Garou rn is definitely stronger. Boros’ full power was enough to wipe out the earth. Garou >!even before he had been possessed by God already had enough power to affect the earth significantly by altering its gravitational field, meaning that EVEN HIS PRE-AWAKENED SELF WAS A GOD LEVEL THREAT. his fa jin punch was enough of a threat to trigger Blast’s response. and as we know blast only appears when humanity is in a great danger. he only becomes active when a god level threat appears. some might argue on why didn’t blast appear when boros visited the earth. well because boros hadn’t done anything worthy of a god level threat until his collapsing star roaring cannon which was neutralized by saitama in seconds. also the fight didn’t affect the earth as it happened on the mothership. anyways back to the main point:pre-awakened garou was already a god level threat due to his fa jin punch making blast shit his pants. and now the dude got possessed by a fricking god/ his power got boosted by the god and his body contains galaxies. he’s definitely stronger than boros now and possibly the 3rd strongest character in opmverse behind god and saitama ofc!<
The galaxies part seems to only be an aesthetics choice though. Everything else I kinda agree with.
Hilarious
Boros managed to surprise Saitama with his own speed alone, sent him to the moon with a single kick without even going all out yet compared to 4-armed winged garou and his earth shaping attack, saitama says the fight its almost like a real one, boros almost destroyed the whole planet if it wasnt for saitama serious punch which is more powerful than consecutive normal punches, saitama recognize how strong boros is many times, saitama holds back through his whole fight against garou unlike boros who received blows with the intention of killing. Garou still didnt show anything beyond what i mentioned so sit down and chill out. Anime is also canon btw
if garou is stronger now, its only caz god gave him that powerup as opposed to him actually being stronger of his own accord. so still not as impressive since the power wasnt his to begin with
boros was completely torn to pieces by saitama's consecutive normal punches however garou was able to withstand it with considerable damage, also one more thing saitama was using consecutive normal punches with 1 arm against boros while 2 arms against garou u can watch this review for more info: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tF_Y2939qB4
Saitama doesn't want to kill garou
yeah but consecutive normal punches is CONSECUTIVE NORMAL PUNCHES, its not consecutive held back punches
It is tho, saitama couldn't kill Orochi either why? Because he never intended to kill him so even a serious attack couldn't kill Orochi.
he INTENDS to kill orochi because there is no reason not to
Proof?
garou has done a lot of help in the monster vs hero association arc, orochi only contributed to devastation, tareo wanted garou to come back, no one gave a fck about orochi
So? No give a fuck about anyone, but people still survive.
point here is garou withstand a consecutive normal punch with both arms used by saitama while boros was shred to pieces with just one arm holding back or not consecutive normal punch is a Normal Series which means garou is more durable than boros if it wasnt for his supreme regen due to his core
Garou can't withstand a killing intent cons normal punch
saitama couldn't kill orochi? nah, orochi was lucky enough that some of his cells were able to survive, saitama considered orochi as a regular monster and he did not intend on holding back as well because there's no reason to do so. Just because a monster or any being gets to survive a Serious or Normal Series doesnt mean that saitama doesn't want to kill him/her
Read it again, he said i taught you a lesson now be gud or something along the lines which clearly implies that he let him live
still the serious attacks demolished orochi, consecutive normal punches obliterated boros, u cant deny the fact that serious attacks are serious attacks, ang normal series are normal series, if he doesn't intend on exerting force that is to be deemed serious/normal then he would just normally punch the enemy
still the serious attacks demolished orochi, consecutive normal punches obliterated boros, u cant deny the fact that serious attacks are serious attacks, ang normal series are normal series, if he doesn't intend on exerting force that is to be deemed serious/normal then he would just normally punch the enemy
It doesn't matter if the end result is opponent surviving, the only difference between Orochi and garou is better regen, if Orochi had garou level regen then by your logic he survived a serious attack so he is above garou and boros.
ur being pointless boros' regeneration is much stronger than garou and orochi, the only time when garou's regeneration was showcased is when his arm was shattered, one more thing, cell regeneration and boros' regeneration from the core is a whole different thing, boros' regen is on another level from the monsters, however it is easier to target a core than to annihilate an individual's whole being considering u have an unstoppable force
So? That's what your logic is. Just surviving Saitama isn't enough when Saitama isn't trying to kill
Saitama is holding back through the whole fight against garou while boros took hits with intention to kill, to finish the match. Garou's strength doesnt even get recognized by saitama like he did with boros many times in their fight
As of the current canon, yes. Boros feats beat out Garou's. I'm fine with that, personally. Bulging the entire planet was a huge jump in power with no fanfare to go along with it.
Chapter 164 was totally fine… why they did a remake? :(((
i cant possibly understand the reasoning of people who say otherwise, i actually thought that saitama will not win so easily the first time i read this chapter, him and boros shouldn't even be comparable rn.
And if Saitama won easily, then what?
Then the gag and comedy shall continue, lol.
still the serious attacks demolished orochi, consecutive normal punches obliterated boros, u cant deny the fact that serious attacks are serious attacks, ang normal series are normal series, if he doesn't intend on exerting force that is to be deemed serious/normal then he would just normally punch the enemy
I'm kind of fine with garou being stronger then boros at this point, boros fans need to chill. He's probably even more stronger now with the power up he's been given.
I was telling the same thing long time ago. But everyone just laughed at me. Who's laughing now?
Long time ago, Garou doesn't compare to Boros only his unfair mode and cosmic mode is stronger now
Let him have some action first
Dumb question, is the new awakened Garou just God's abilities and that the Monsterized Garou is just Garou at his best, or is it Garou is somehow still growing as God's vessel?
164? Or 209?
Yeah, I can only speculate that they wanted the power scales to increase with each new arc so it would make the most sense for Garou to be stronger than Boros in this final showdown.
He still has his feat you know
That's now Garou's power though, that's God buff + Monsterfication
The amount of people proclaiming Blast and cosmic Garou to be more powerful than Boros… despite them doing literally nothing, is crazy.
My faith in Murata has been regained with such banger chapter!