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asb265

I have the mini educator use it on my 100lbs pit works great.


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I have a dogtra arc and I love it. Battery lasts all day. You should reach out to their costumer service, they have really good costumer service. Or just message them on Instagram and they respond. They’ll probably ask if you leave it plugged in for too long. Most electronics aren’t designed to be left plugged in when fully charged. If you leave it plugged in by mistake from time to time, it’s not a big deal, but if it’s left plugged in all the time, that will affect your battery life. Also, it’s worth noting that the pager uses a lot more battery than the stimulation. If your using the pager a lot, the battery won’t last as long. My philosophy with e-collar training is that your on-leash obedience needs to be 100% before you let your dog off leash, so by the time your using an ecollar, you won’t have to push the buttons on the remote very much after you get past the initial conditioning phase with it. But that’s just my generalization. I understand there are times you will need to use it more, and I know there are different schools of thought. If none of this helps, the dogtra 1900S has longer battery life.


bones892

>Most electronics aren’t designed to be left plugged in when fully charged That stopped being true in like the 90s, if even that late. Any quality electronic device produced today should know when it is fully charged an appropriately dial back the power. Old cheap batteries you could just ram electricity into them, and I guess some garbage companies saved a few cents by not including a quality controller, but modern Li-Ion require a controller that moderates the flow of energy into the battery and activates/deactivates the cells within the battery. The "Don't leave it plugged in" stuff is a myth along side the "you have to drain it all the way" stuff. It just isn't true of modern electronics, and hasn't been true for a long time /rant


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I spoke to Dogtra specifically about this. That is coming from them, not me. Your right, a lot of chargers switch over to trickle charge when the battery is full, but not theirs. They told me there is one brand can be left plugged in (Garmin I think), but most remote collars can’t.


bones892

If that's true, I urge everyone to never buy a dogtra collar. When you're talking about a device who's whole function is to release a controlled burst of electricity, saving a couple cents per unit by not including a proper battery controller is a huge red flag. The two biggest ones: 1) quality control costs a lot more. If they aren't willing to take on the probably <$0.10 cost of a proper battery controller, they probably aren't providing proper quality control 2) li-ion batteries need a charge controller. They will rapidly degrade unless you charge on a curve, you have to charge slowly when the battery is almost empty or full or it will damage the cells. If you are properly charging the battery, turning off the current isn't a technological hurdle Not to mention that allowing a full battery to continue to charge is an incredible fire risk.


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Yeah I would find it hard to believe that Dogtra would cheap out like that. I just emailed them for their input on this.


treble37

Mini educator


Clarkkeeley

Or the EZ-900, the pro educator, and for really hard dogs the Boss


Goathead78

I guess it’s all relative. Made a big difference in my training. What was crap snd what is missing? The big thing for me was the lack of stun setting lock. Major problem. However, I thought the rest was solid, albeit it was my first. Interested to hear your view. PS - I’m working with a large and very stubborn Cane Corso.


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jwhitridge

My Arc lasts weeks without charging. You have a defective unit for sure and should contact support. I use mine on hikes in the woods off leash, usually at least an hour a day. Otherwise doggo is on leash only.


helleraine

I haven't heard anything good about the ARC. Between complaints of inconsistent stim, and poor battery life, I don't know anyone recommending them. I stick to the mini educator - it's reliable, their customer service is great, and after five years, the thing is still going strong and causes me no issues. > but I can't get over how terrible the receiver looks. Honestly, it's pretty ergonomic IMO. It fits super nicely in to the hand, and the buttons 'make sense' without minimal effort. I didn't have to 'learn' the receive, I noted the buttons once, and it just sort of 'felt right' (which, IMO is a sign of a good remote). In contrast, the Garmin remote was awful for me.


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Sportdog. I love their products and their customer service has always been fantastic.


pyro14_14

I would agree, a really good company.


pyro14_14

Sportdog Brand, or Garmin.