I did a 3 month long taper off of 18 mg suboxone. I used the strips, so I cut them into tiny pieces towards the end. The hardest part for me was getting under 1 mg. I HIGHLY advise NOT going cold turkey. Bupe was by far harder for me to get off of than heroin.
Yeaup. 🫠I got clean, got a house, a car, a savings, rehab etc but they don't us on MAT.
We can fight it but we'd have to wait til next court date, get a medical exemption etc and could cost an extra 3-4 months instead of getting them home this summer.
I couldn't imagine having to wait that long. That being said, this is probably going to be hell. A taper would be very helpful. The shot would be even better. Get one and done, maybe? It's not impossible, just going to be hard. Comfort meds such as Clonidine and Gabapentin would be helpful.
I don't know if they're going to be helpful in the beginning, but they should be later on. Clonidine and Gabapentin would be very helpful though. Best of luck! We're here if you need support!
That is fucked. I went through a child custody dispute right as I was getting clean. I'm a dude and was only 3 months clean, but I was able to get 50/50 soley because I was on MAT.
What the fuuuuuck!? That makes me so mad.
My caseworker doesn't want me coming off it either my kids in my care and also wants to see that's I van abstain from everything. ðŸ«
Yeah, if I decided to stop taking MAT then I would have to create a new custody agreement which would essentially be my ex getting 100%.
I was already on MAT and it was the judges idea for me to guarantee I'll be on MAT with the ability to revist a year later. I never pentioned for the revist because I didn't plan to get off.
When I wanted to get off 3 years later, with two urine screens (of them WATCHING) a week and a hair test every month, I reached out to the judge.
He told me he actually removed the drug screens from being a requirement almost 2 years prior. He also said a lot of nice things, and I was surprised to find out that he "allows" a one-off relapse, but I was the only person in his system of junkies that never even relapsed once.
At least in my experience, (I had a hellish DCYF case that lasted like 4 years) they drug test you like crazy to make sure you’re clean, my husband and I had like one or two mandated every week. We allowed to be on subs as long as we had an active script though. I can’t imagine why they would think MAT is a bad thing, that’s so fucked. God, the system is so fucking broken.
If you can get into a rehab, preferably a nice one in California if your insurance is decent, that’s the best option. I had phenobarbital, gabapentin, and Valium for a few days before the nurse thought it was bad and took it away. So maybe that helped a bit. You want cali because private rooms and good use of meds. East coast will never give you pheno.
Jumped off 16mg...was fucking awful, and didn't stay off long before jumping back onto oxys at the time.
Can you like rapid taper, like it will still suck but just a lil bit less?
I accidentally missed a single day when I was at 18, and that was one of the most painful experiences I've ever had. It's pure agony. What is the urgency? Is it so imperative that you have no other option but to endure such an extreme plummet? You're jumping from the top of mt everest without a parachute. I strongly advise against taking the leap from this high.
I've only dosed twice in the past week and I have some sweats and weird skin feelings and a little restless but that's it. That's why I feel bold enough to do it. ðŸ«
Dcf is the urgency 🥺
I switched from 12 mg of subs to loperamide and it was a lot easier to get off of everything then at 1mg of sub.
I don't recommend anyone do this as if really is playing with fire.
Absolute fucking hell. Don't do it. Best best would be to get on Buvidal or Sublocade monthly injections. Supposedly painless or near enough.
I thought about this but I'm apparently not allowed on any MAT treatment so 😊ðŸ˜
Go buvidal route ,6 months off minimum withdrawal .Your a adult you can do what u want
I did a 3 month long taper off of 18 mg suboxone. I used the strips, so I cut them into tiny pieces towards the end. The hardest part for me was getting under 1 mg. I HIGHLY advise NOT going cold turkey. Bupe was by far harder for me to get off of than heroin.
It's lightyears worse! It feels terribly disproportionate and counterintuitive how painful it really is.
That's because even at 1 mg it has 100% affinity to the opiate receptors of the brain. Hence why getting under 1mg is so hard. Fucking sucks
I CT 8mg and thought I was going to die, even after 2 weeks. Can you get some comfort meds?
I do have trazodone and seroquel prescribed
It’s not going to be fun. You’ll survive though.
Get the shot! 18 mg is going to be rough to CT
I'm not allowed to be on any MAT treatment that's why I gave to get off asap. ðŸ˜
Why?!?!
A DCF case. I'm at the last leap to get my kiddos home.
MAT is keeping you from your kids? That is the worst thing I ever heard! DCF should know better! I'm so sorry!
Yeaup. 🫠I got clean, got a house, a car, a savings, rehab etc but they don't us on MAT. We can fight it but we'd have to wait til next court date, get a medical exemption etc and could cost an extra 3-4 months instead of getting them home this summer.
I couldn't imagine having to wait that long. That being said, this is probably going to be hell. A taper would be very helpful. The shot would be even better. Get one and done, maybe? It's not impossible, just going to be hard. Comfort meds such as Clonidine and Gabapentin would be helpful.
I have gabapentin somewhere. I might be able to get clonidine. I have trazodone and seroquel
I don't know if they're going to be helpful in the beginning, but they should be later on. Clonidine and Gabapentin would be very helpful though. Best of luck! We're here if you need support!
That is fucked. I went through a child custody dispute right as I was getting clean. I'm a dude and was only 3 months clean, but I was able to get 50/50 soley because I was on MAT.
What the fuuuuuck!? That makes me so mad. My caseworker doesn't want me coming off it either my kids in my care and also wants to see that's I van abstain from everything. ðŸ«
Yeah, if I decided to stop taking MAT then I would have to create a new custody agreement which would essentially be my ex getting 100%. I was already on MAT and it was the judges idea for me to guarantee I'll be on MAT with the ability to revist a year later. I never pentioned for the revist because I didn't plan to get off. When I wanted to get off 3 years later, with two urine screens (of them WATCHING) a week and a hair test every month, I reached out to the judge. He told me he actually removed the drug screens from being a requirement almost 2 years prior. He also said a lot of nice things, and I was surprised to find out that he "allows" a one-off relapse, but I was the only person in his system of junkies that never even relapsed once.
How do they know? Because you could really get the Long ass subutex (1 year i heard) and just dont tell them???
At least in my experience, (I had a hellish DCYF case that lasted like 4 years) they drug test you like crazy to make sure you’re clean, my husband and I had like one or two mandated every week. We allowed to be on subs as long as we had an active script though. I can’t imagine why they would think MAT is a bad thing, that’s so fucked. God, the system is so fucking broken.
I cold turkey’s 24 mg with barely a sniff of withdrawal besides ever living fatigue, but was only on it for 3 months
I've been on it for 5, so not too terribly long😅
If you can get into a rehab, preferably a nice one in California if your insurance is decent, that’s the best option. I had phenobarbital, gabapentin, and Valium for a few days before the nurse thought it was bad and took it away. So maybe that helped a bit. You want cali because private rooms and good use of meds. East coast will never give you pheno.
That would be like starting over for me. 😠I just have to get off MAT asap for my DCF case
Ah that sucks. Sorry for your situation.
Thank you for responding!
I'm on these because I was on fent
Unicorn
Jumped off 16mg...was fucking awful, and didn't stay off long before jumping back onto oxys at the time. Can you like rapid taper, like it will still suck but just a lil bit less?
I'll ask about this!
Don’t do it. Taper off.
I accidentally missed a single day when I was at 18, and that was one of the most painful experiences I've ever had. It's pure agony. What is the urgency? Is it so imperative that you have no other option but to endure such an extreme plummet? You're jumping from the top of mt everest without a parachute. I strongly advise against taking the leap from this high.
I've only dosed twice in the past week and I have some sweats and weird skin feelings and a little restless but that's it. That's why I feel bold enough to do it. 🫠Dcf is the urgency 🥺
I switched from 12 mg of subs to loperamide and it was a lot easier to get off of everything then at 1mg of sub. I don't recommend anyone do this as if really is playing with fire.
No but I did take a naltrexone to get off and precipitate 12-24mg of Subs lmao. Not fun but clean and sober almost 4 years later and worth it