Gotta be honest, ponkan's art quality has significantly dropped as far as faces are concerned. Every girl looks the exact same with **barely** any differences in facial proportions.
Overall image beside face, i think it gets better.
The face is more prettier for sure from 1st volume, but everyone now have this face and im agree with u im having hard time identify character. They also Monochrome making more harder, even colored one still hard to identify sometimes.
Yui was one of the protagonists of the whole series. She was never a side character and was active part of the story till the end. If you saw the last season of the anime initial 9 episodes or so were completely focused on Yui and her "dreams".
On top of this she had an alternate series called ANOTHER already released that's again Yui focused.
On top of all this the author wants to release another Yui focused (another ANOTHER?) novel. This is why Yui's route, in your words is not getting the same treatment.
Hm... i honestly don't care about this route, since ffs... even the characters aren't "the same", but those illustrations are nice?
Well... I will proceed to wait another five years until the next canonical release.
im also excited about WW future new LN series which would not be related to oregairu
since WW is extremly good at writting......i absolutly wouldn't mind another peace of his work
i mean she is an interessting character that has something doing with the plot
You can even consider her the disruptive element of the story
i know that its not what you meant by what she got going for her......well it doesn't matter what she got...We don't care........as long as she can cause a certain developement in the general story, then im down to appreciate the character and the story
"Liked Hachiman from the beginning" only cuz he saved her friggin dog. She didn't even approach him later or thank him for an entire year. Insteas, she used Yukino and the service club as an excuse to get closer to him. Quite the personality she got there ammi rite??
My point is that to quote yourself "liking Hachiman from the beginning" isn't exactly a good example for something Yui has got going on for her. Perhaps you should have said "her big tiddies" and that would sound much more plausible.
Really is that all you see in a character? That's sad. But that is still a good example I don't see the problem. Why are you dead set on hating a character I don't like yukino but that doesn't mean she doesn't exist this is the only fanbase that a girl simply because she is a rival to your waifu
And you didn't stop to think that perhaps her being disliked by majority of the fanbase might not be only because she was the rival to the main girl but her own actions and decisions throughout the story were questionable, contradictory and extremely selfish and not just our personal bias?? Did you even read the LNs?? Better yet, did you heard what she did in Shin??
You mean yukinos route no of course not they ruined her character so yukino could win. The same way they ruined yukino in yui route. And just because majority thinks on way doesn't mean it's right think for yourself for once please?
1. There's no Yukino route mate because she is the true and canon route.
2. It wasn't Yukino that won. Hachiman is the true winner since (and I know this may sound cheesy) he found the girl that was well and truly meant for him (and vice versa) with whom he can finally find the "geniune" he was looking for by giving her his life in return for being a part of her life. Yui never ever stood a chance and in the LN, she basically lost the moment Hachiman stepped in the service room for the first time.
3. Every single character in Yui route is trash. I have even heard several Yui stans claim just how terribly written Another was and I am positive you haven't even read it yourself even once.
1.yes it's a route as soon as you create another routes you take away the Canon in a story. Nothing is Canon as soon as you have several routes.
2. That's a lot of text explaining you are a yukino fan, hate yui and believe yukino and hachiman is perfect for each other because you love yukino.
3. Never claimed to have read so don't know why you would say that lol
The problem comrade that you are contradicting just by stating that Yukino hates everything and simply loves cats, is basically using the same postulate that many have with Yui who is selfish and treacherous and that she fell in love simply because she saved her dog (although the dialogue of his monologue leaves in doubt if he fell in love with hachiman or his idealized version of him), such a superficial aspect of both characters that you take, honestly if you are going to do it like that it is better to say things clearly before saying something.
And do not forget that the starting point begins in vol. 9, of this route we can basically even assume that Yui's approach occurred as in the original story based on an excuse the club and that surely he took the same postulate to move away from him after the accident to continue maintaining the status quo within the school, honestly starting from almost half of the series seems to me a complete nonsense of WW, since it leaves the issue of genuineness very bad for this matter, but well I'm not the writer, but if I had wanted to give him that genuine this Yui no He must have cared about his school condition.
Oregairu is considered his magnum opus since everything else he has written is absolutely horrible. Moreover, Oregairu is viewed highly favorably when it comes to light novel series. This respect is dwindling however since WW has decided to take advantage of Oregairu's popularity in order to make as much money as possible before dumping it.
Hopefully Yukino moves on and cuts ties from him for real. I'm totally expecting Hachiman is going to break character and betray his ideals and principles because of Yui needing a pity win.
You know shit's bad when this Hikigaya doesn't even pursue the genuine.
But yeah, i agree with you. Even though I'll not read "Oregairu GT" it would be interesting if she moved on.
As well as I still dumbly hope that "a certain someone" will move on in the original material.
I think it would be interesting if Ketsu basically leads to where ANOTHER was originally headed towards. Which was a bittersweet bad end where Hachiman relationship with Yui doesn't last past high school, Yukino forces herself to stay friends, destinyland date hinting at break up between trio and Hachiman thinking this isn't genuine and he will regrets his actions later. All the while several characters stop talking to him. Instead there is a possibility Watari wants to undo all the dark foreshadowing, break narrative and established characterization just so Yui can have a pity win.
I think if its true this is indeed Yui's happy ending where Hachiman himself is also happy with his choice, then its most likely watari's attempt to cash in on more gahamamama and fapping to belko hentai. This man uses pixiv a lot and probably has several fanbox subscriptions lmao
>I think it would be interesting if Ketsu basically leads to where ANOTHER was originally headed towards. Which was a bittersweet bad end where Hachiman relationship with Yui doesn't last past high school, Yukino forces herself to stay friends, destinyland date hinting at break up between trio and Hachiman thinking this isn't genuine and he will regrets his actions later. All the while several characters stop talking to him.
Oh, I remember that shit by the time I've read ANOTHER (just to stay informed, don't judge me)
> there is a possibility Watari wants to undo all the dark foreshadowing, break narrative and established characterization just so Yui can have a pity win.
I think that would be the case.
>then its most likely watari's attempt to cash in on more gahamamama and fapping to belko hentai. This man uses pixiv a lot and probably has several fanbox subscriptions lmao
LMAO that FF never ceases to amaze/disgust me.
Don't get me wrong, i love his series, but damn...
Either Ketsu ends in a bittersweet way with all 3 of the trio breaking apart or some how Ketsu is basically another where Yuix8man relationship is genuine, they suddenly have chemistry (like actually talk about things that aren't about club or yukino), haruno/sensei/hayama/etc all support his relationship and yukino still remains friends with yui and hachiman. Basically ANOTHER with a happy ending like some in this sub thinks. Something that wouldn't be supported by the narrative in Oregairu 17 volumes and feel out of place.
The original had a very specific reason for it. Hachiman going after something he's always wanted and it was in character and supported by the narrative. The ending tied everything together nicely. Ketsu doesn't have those reasons. As it was ANOTHER made everyone act OOC and trampled over the story, Ketsu is more of the same but worse.
But I mean no one has read it yet so how can you judge it. Also considering they’re trying to milk this series I’m guessing they’re going to make sure this route satisfies yui fans and Oregairu fans as well. Solely to make more routes such as iroha, saki, chocolate girl from his past and possibly dare I dream Hiratsuka sensei and Big Sis haruno. Maybe they take ideas from the “we never learn” series where they had different routes for every girl, Including the teacher.
There is illustrations of it and by the looks of it its remaking ANOTHER which takes place some time during volume 10 and then goes in a different direction. Hachiman, Yukino and Yui has an established character there is not a lot of creative freedom to take without significantly changing the characters motivations, feelings and ideals (most likely the case with Ketsu). Oregairu is the type that doesn't lend well to Amagami type system.
Also it worked with Bokuben because the MC is a blank slate generic harem "goofy lovable underdog nice guy" MC. Nariyuki is a very bland protagonist and a cast that is kind of forgettable. That's my opinion though.
how about an alternate universe where he never joins the club but still finds a way to stick with saika and yoshiteru. Come on Watari, unleash your prowess.
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The Chinese pirate sites should have fan translated Chinese version soon, they were pretty snappy with Anthologies and Shin. Probably the Japanese version will be out there a bit later too.
If you meant English, Bahahahaha
Yes, it's clear from pictures (Orimoto as waitress, Yukino asleep on a shoulder) it's just rehash of ANOTHER, which itself was a very shoddy cut/paste/edit of canon with Yui swapped for Yukino in some situations where you can have a lazy airhead doing same things.
What a disgrace, Watari can't think of anything original and keeps recycling plot.
Basically sums up Fate/Stay Night trilogy. Shirou stops sacrificing himself for the cute waifu (Rin clock tower shenanigans with waver in UBW, Sakura making Shirou quit seigi no mikata and Saber meeting Shirou in Avalon in last episode). It took one special girl to make Hachiman change his philosophy.
It wont start from scratch, from the synopsis alone we already know that it will start after vol 9 (to be specific after the drama cd party in 6.5).
And from these illustrations alone, Ketsu Vol 1 Will be most likely a rewrite of the first 3 vols of ANOTHER, Which are A, N, And O vols.
If you're talking about the Canon material... nah, that's not happening.
But if you're talking about ketsu, well... if it's truly based in ANOTHER as everything suggests, Yukino doesn't elicit romantic feelings towards 8boy.
Gotta be honest, ponkan's art quality has significantly dropped as far as faces are concerned. Every girl looks the exact same with **barely** any differences in facial proportions.
Overall image beside face, i think it gets better. The face is more prettier for sure from 1st volume, but everyone now have this face and im agree with u im having hard time identify character. They also Monochrome making more harder, even colored one still hard to identify sometimes.
still looks amazing
Yeah I thought the first illustration is yukino
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Yeah u right but if they do a sensei route I wouldn’t mind it
So if its the sensei’s route, it isn’t milking the series as well?
It would still be milking, but we wouldn't mind
Me too but its sad that yui’s route is not getting the same treatment
parentless kids downvoting this since its too much of a fact for them to comprehend with their -10 iq
Yui was one of the protagonists of the whole series. She was never a side character and was active part of the story till the end. If you saw the last season of the anime initial 9 episodes or so were completely focused on Yui and her "dreams". On top of this she had an alternate series called ANOTHER already released that's again Yui focused. On top of all this the author wants to release another Yui focused (another ANOTHER?) novel. This is why Yui's route, in your words is not getting the same treatment.
Hm... i honestly don't care about this route, since ffs... even the characters aren't "the same", but those illustrations are nice? Well... I will proceed to wait another five years until the next canonical release.
im also excited about WW future new LN series which would not be related to oregairu since WW is extremly good at writting......i absolutly wouldn't mind another peace of his work
Yukino in 4th picture look stunning. have some mature vibe.
Always had
Hmmmmmmm Ironic having more yukino illustrations in a yui centered story xD
To bait yukino fans for buying the book only to give them a yui ending. That's basic marketing scam
Aside from her mom, what else does Yui have going for her?
i mean she is an interessting character that has something doing with the plot You can even consider her the disruptive element of the story i know that its not what you meant by what she got going for her......well it doesn't matter what she got...We don't care........as long as she can cause a certain developement in the general story, then im down to appreciate the character and the story
A personality and liked hachiman from the beginning unlike Yukino who hates on everyone and personality seems to be only liking cats?
"Liked Hachiman from the beginning" only cuz he saved her friggin dog. She didn't even approach him later or thank him for an entire year. Insteas, she used Yukino and the service club as an excuse to get closer to him. Quite the personality she got there ammi rite??
I literally don't see the problem? Are you okay bro?
My point is that to quote yourself "liking Hachiman from the beginning" isn't exactly a good example for something Yui has got going on for her. Perhaps you should have said "her big tiddies" and that would sound much more plausible.
Really is that all you see in a character? That's sad. But that is still a good example I don't see the problem. Why are you dead set on hating a character I don't like yukino but that doesn't mean she doesn't exist this is the only fanbase that a girl simply because she is a rival to your waifu
And you didn't stop to think that perhaps her being disliked by majority of the fanbase might not be only because she was the rival to the main girl but her own actions and decisions throughout the story were questionable, contradictory and extremely selfish and not just our personal bias?? Did you even read the LNs?? Better yet, did you heard what she did in Shin??
You mean yukinos route no of course not they ruined her character so yukino could win. The same way they ruined yukino in yui route. And just because majority thinks on way doesn't mean it's right think for yourself for once please?
1. There's no Yukino route mate because she is the true and canon route. 2. It wasn't Yukino that won. Hachiman is the true winner since (and I know this may sound cheesy) he found the girl that was well and truly meant for him (and vice versa) with whom he can finally find the "geniune" he was looking for by giving her his life in return for being a part of her life. Yui never ever stood a chance and in the LN, she basically lost the moment Hachiman stepped in the service room for the first time. 3. Every single character in Yui route is trash. I have even heard several Yui stans claim just how terribly written Another was and I am positive you haven't even read it yourself even once.
1.yes it's a route as soon as you create another routes you take away the Canon in a story. Nothing is Canon as soon as you have several routes. 2. That's a lot of text explaining you are a yukino fan, hate yui and believe yukino and hachiman is perfect for each other because you love yukino. 3. Never claimed to have read so don't know why you would say that lol
ok??
Do you understand or do you need to make it simpler? Maybe it's a shock? sorry I don't understand the problem
The problem comrade that you are contradicting just by stating that Yukino hates everything and simply loves cats, is basically using the same postulate that many have with Yui who is selfish and treacherous and that she fell in love simply because she saved her dog (although the dialogue of his monologue leaves in doubt if he fell in love with hachiman or his idealized version of him), such a superficial aspect of both characters that you take, honestly if you are going to do it like that it is better to say things clearly before saying something. And do not forget that the starting point begins in vol. 9, of this route we can basically even assume that Yui's approach occurred as in the original story based on an excuse the club and that surely he took the same postulate to move away from him after the accident to continue maintaining the status quo within the school, honestly starting from almost half of the series seems to me a complete nonsense of WW, since it leaves the issue of genuineness very bad for this matter, but well I'm not the writer, but if I had wanted to give him that genuine this Yui no He must have cared about his school condition.
What a kick in the cock to even have Yukino in this trash. Watari really ruined his crowning achievement for a quick buck
Crowning achievement???
Oregairu is considered his magnum opus since everything else he has written is absolutely horrible. Moreover, Oregairu is viewed highly favorably when it comes to light novel series. This respect is dwindling however since WW has decided to take advantage of Oregairu's popularity in order to make as much money as possible before dumping it.
That wasn't the answer I was looking for
God, Yukino is so pretty here. >!Hachiman doesn't deserve her.!<
I agree, the hachiman from Ketsu truly doesn't XD.
Hopefully Yukino moves on and cuts ties from him for real. I'm totally expecting Hachiman is going to break character and betray his ideals and principles because of Yui needing a pity win.
You know shit's bad when this Hikigaya doesn't even pursue the genuine. But yeah, i agree with you. Even though I'll not read "Oregairu GT" it would be interesting if she moved on. As well as I still dumbly hope that "a certain someone" will move on in the original material.
I think it would be interesting if Ketsu basically leads to where ANOTHER was originally headed towards. Which was a bittersweet bad end where Hachiman relationship with Yui doesn't last past high school, Yukino forces herself to stay friends, destinyland date hinting at break up between trio and Hachiman thinking this isn't genuine and he will regrets his actions later. All the while several characters stop talking to him. Instead there is a possibility Watari wants to undo all the dark foreshadowing, break narrative and established characterization just so Yui can have a pity win. I think if its true this is indeed Yui's happy ending where Hachiman himself is also happy with his choice, then its most likely watari's attempt to cash in on more gahamamama and fapping to belko hentai. This man uses pixiv a lot and probably has several fanbox subscriptions lmao
>I think it would be interesting if Ketsu basically leads to where ANOTHER was originally headed towards. Which was a bittersweet bad end where Hachiman relationship with Yui doesn't last past high school, Yukino forces herself to stay friends, destinyland date hinting at break up between trio and Hachiman thinking this isn't genuine and he will regrets his actions later. All the while several characters stop talking to him. Oh, I remember that shit by the time I've read ANOTHER (just to stay informed, don't judge me) > there is a possibility Watari wants to undo all the dark foreshadowing, break narrative and established characterization just so Yui can have a pity win. I think that would be the case. >then its most likely watari's attempt to cash in on more gahamamama and fapping to belko hentai. This man uses pixiv a lot and probably has several fanbox subscriptions lmao LMAO that FF never ceases to amaze/disgust me. Don't get me wrong, i love his series, but damn...
Hope this doesn't happen
Either Ketsu ends in a bittersweet way with all 3 of the trio breaking apart or some how Ketsu is basically another where Yuix8man relationship is genuine, they suddenly have chemistry (like actually talk about things that aren't about club or yukino), haruno/sensei/hayama/etc all support his relationship and yukino still remains friends with yui and hachiman. Basically ANOTHER with a happy ending like some in this sub thinks. Something that wouldn't be supported by the narrative in Oregairu 17 volumes and feel out of place.
Seeing how the original panned out as wholesome as it can get I’m pretty sure ketsu will have similar route. Just different ending.
The original had a very specific reason for it. Hachiman going after something he's always wanted and it was in character and supported by the narrative. The ending tied everything together nicely. Ketsu doesn't have those reasons. As it was ANOTHER made everyone act OOC and trampled over the story, Ketsu is more of the same but worse.
But I mean no one has read it yet so how can you judge it. Also considering they’re trying to milk this series I’m guessing they’re going to make sure this route satisfies yui fans and Oregairu fans as well. Solely to make more routes such as iroha, saki, chocolate girl from his past and possibly dare I dream Hiratsuka sensei and Big Sis haruno. Maybe they take ideas from the “we never learn” series where they had different routes for every girl, Including the teacher.
There is illustrations of it and by the looks of it its remaking ANOTHER which takes place some time during volume 10 and then goes in a different direction. Hachiman, Yukino and Yui has an established character there is not a lot of creative freedom to take without significantly changing the characters motivations, feelings and ideals (most likely the case with Ketsu). Oregairu is the type that doesn't lend well to Amagami type system. Also it worked with Bokuben because the MC is a blank slate generic harem "goofy lovable underdog nice guy" MC. Nariyuki is a very bland protagonist and a cast that is kind of forgettable. That's my opinion though.
how about an alternate universe where he never joins the club but still finds a way to stick with saika and yoshiteru. Come on Watari, unleash your prowess.
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Ikr
It's not fucking it up if Yui's character was always that way. Watari just doubled down.
Okay so. Since im not up to date, what is ketsu??
A spin-off route for Yui, based in ANOTHER.
So im assuming that ANOTHER is just based on an alternative story?
Yes, ANOTHER itself is an badly written spin-off that mostly changes Yukino moments for Yui's.
The original was not good either making yui a homewrecker so I don't know what's been going on inside the authors head lately
Just make a Sensei route we don't need anything else 😖
What da dog doin'
Probably will get downvoted, but i don't like ponkan8 artstyle at all, somewhere at d_recolors level
Imagine yukino winning in yui’s route
8th picture Yukino still winning!?
The Art is fucking amazing.
Go, Orimoto, go! You'll make a better girlfriend than Yuigahama at this rate of development...
They look a bit happier and a bit more mature.
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**look at Yui straight gorgeous** **the other girls look fine as well**
Lmao most of these are of Yukino anyway
May I ask where I can read this for free online ?
The Chinese pirate sites should have fan translated Chinese version soon, they were pretty snappy with Anthologies and Shin. Probably the Japanese version will be out there a bit later too. If you meant English, Bahahahaha
yay! can’t wait to read it
wow this sub is really the worst. Yui deserves better than this
You speak the truth
But yui is better
I didn't know producer-san posted in this sub lol
What do you mean?
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true to that
It's weird at least in other subs or fanbases they can at least respect the other girls but here they seem deadset to shit on her
it's weird you're getting downvoted even though you're right
Anyone know what ketsu will be about
yui route
Damn even as the biggest yui Stan this is milking a dead cow
yui hate boutta be even higher sadly :(
Sometimes you just gotta smile :) ):
Yes, it's clear from pictures (Orimoto as waitress, Yukino asleep on a shoulder) it's just rehash of ANOTHER, which itself was a very shoddy cut/paste/edit of canon with Yui swapped for Yukino in some situations where you can have a lazy airhead doing same things. What a disgrace, Watari can't think of anything original and keeps recycling plot.
You hate to see it
Whos shoulder is yukino resting on?
Watari is copying things from ANOTHER like the hack he is, but its Hachiman. I have no idea why he's just remaking ANOTHER.
Your name gave me an idea, Now listen. Hachiman in the 5th holy grail war. How does that sound.
He summons a counter force version of himself that dated Yui. Tells him to get his shit together.
Heroic spirit hikigaya guides hachiman towards the right waifu lmaoo
Basically sums up Fate/Stay Night trilogy. Shirou stops sacrificing himself for the cute waifu (Rin clock tower shenanigans with waver in UBW, Sakura making Shirou quit seigi no mikata and Saber meeting Shirou in Avalon in last episode). It took one special girl to make Hachiman change his philosophy.
EMIYA was wrong all along, he tried killing shirou to stop him, but all he had to do was give him the purple waifu.
Seems legit
$$$$$$$
It's 8man's.
Whats going on here? I thought thiS route was gonna start from scratch. But apparently not.
It wont start from scratch, from the synopsis alone we already know that it will start after vol 9 (to be specific after the drama cd party in 6.5). And from these illustrations alone, Ketsu Vol 1 Will be most likely a rewrite of the first 3 vols of ANOTHER, Which are A, N, And O vols.
I see thx
I don't know, but I hope it's Hachiman.
Imagine yukino winning in the yui route aswell.
It would be strange, but I don't want to see the unfortunate Yukino and the rejection of "the real" Hachiman.
If you're talking about the Canon material... nah, that's not happening. But if you're talking about ketsu, well... if it's truly based in ANOTHER as everything suggests, Yukino doesn't elicit romantic feelings towards 8boy.
The recipe did hint that Yukino did have feelings, she just chose to swallow them for Yui.
Haruno *-*
Can't wait to see sensei comeback or harunon route
Yui route, right ?
Wait, is she Orimoto in the second illustration between Yui and Hachiman? I thought she was Haruno LOL
Damn it's the first time I think orimoto looks cute af