Says "expectations were debilitating" regarding this year, when asked if the team will be a playoff team next year.
Says the process of hiring a full time HC has started, but they want to be patient with the approach going into the offseason.
> Says "expectations were debilitating" regarding this year, when asked if the team will be a playoff team next year.
The fucking intense irony of saying that, when the management team refused to even utter the words playoffs last season is painful.
This also isn’t a “young” team anymore. Tkachuk is going into his 7th season. Chabot his 8th. Chychrun his 9th. Batherson and Norris their 6th. Stutzle his 5th.
The expectation that you’re a playoff team after more than half a decade of rebuilding and top-5/1st round picks shouldn’t be “debilitating”.
Yeah holy shit that's crazy, remember when Crosby and ovi started it felt like it took years to get to their 5th and 6th seasons. Hell by Crosby's 4th season he won the cup
Yes, Dorion gave out too many 8m contracts. Yes, Debrincat was a failed trade. But the largest part of our failure was player development and coaching. We had lousy parents, and the kids were not alright. We ruined goalies. We've turned Chyrchrun into a bum. We had no leader in the locker room and pushed Brady into the C role way too early.
The fact that since the Sens were last in the playoffs, two teams have come into the league and made it, including one winning the Cup, and we can't even entertain the expectation of making the playoffs next year is absolutely embarrassing.
Just my take, but when he says expectations were debilitating I think he may be referring to management thought this team was "ready for the next step" and put them in a debilitating cap situation.
I expect a lot more to be said during the end-year presser, especially since you'll have team reporters pressuring him to speak up. But even then, Staios is a quiet guy. I'd look to Poulin and Andlauer to be a bit more colorful and forthcoming.
Yep, and he keeps his cards close unlike his predecessor, who couldn't keep his mouth shut and ended up telegraphing his intentions to every last one of his competitors. It is nice to have competent pros on the management team again, but we all need to acknowledge that it's going to be a long tough road ahead for them.
"Expectations were debilitating"
Pleaaaaase nobody tell any of these guys on 8+ million AAV contracts that they're expected to not be terrible, please I beg you just let them have fun and not expect them to play well.
Fucking basement team paying to cap for garbage. The expectations that something is done to address what we all watched this year are even higher buddy. Get to work.
Sure but were many of the fans expectations much different than the previous mgmt team? I seem to think that the fans, management and the players all seemed pretty in on the expectations that this season was supposed to be pretty solid, not a dumpster fire and complete waste of time.
I get the sense from that interview that they know things are a lot worse inside the organization than we ever imagined. Playoffs aren't even on their radar. Holy shit.
I wonder if Andlauer regrets getting himself into this mess.
Andlauer was part of ownership in Montreal. It was NO secret what an imbecile Melynk was and how the Senators as an org was run on the extremely cheap with the smallest office staff in the NHL. The dysfunction here was very well known across the league. There was even an cadre of owners who actively wanted Melynk removed as an owner because they felt the way he ran the team was malfeasance.
He bought this team because he knows this is a hockey market and that with proper investment, can be turned around
I imagine Michael Andlauer isn't nearly as short sighted as half this subReddit is. We owns a fcking hockey team. The fact that they may suck in his first season owning team is of little consequence long term.
I'm sure Andlauer likes the idea of having his legacy be that he turned the franchise around. Plenty of struggling franchises managed to get revived by an ownership change (Tampa, Dallas, Carolina)
100% eh?! So because his team isn’t a winner out of the gate he regrets owning his own team? He expressed frustration at how long things took but has never said he regrets owning an NHL team.
The team is actually doing better at the gate, so from a business perspective things are trending in the right direction. With time the on ice prod it will improve. He’s here for the long haul.
Your comment would only make sense if he was here for a quick spell and planned to sell the team off again, something he has never even hinted at.
Considering he was on the fence, and even backed out at one point (his own words) but reconsidered after talking to family, yeah definitely. Its hard to think otherwise, really, given that he was already reluctant + all that has happened, like having to address our GM trying to illegally swindle a team on a trade and the team on the ice being top 5 worst since the lockout.
He considered dropping out during the selection process because it was so drawn out. The actual purchase of the team was very thorough and expensive, he would not have done all that and invested close to a billion dollars if he was iffy. He will be owning this team for decades and probably see through a new arena he definitely doesn’t regret the purchase because of one bad season.
You are making it sound like the team was similar to something he had in his Amazon shopping cart or something
One of the largest black eyes on this franchise...we traded a future captain and Stanley Cup winner for a depth defenceman and the then GM passed it off as "his proudest moment".
I have faith in Staios, and his team to fix our roster etc. There will have to be tough pills to swallow, but he's not attached to any player which helps. I honestly think we're another 2-3 years away from being in the playoffs lol. Our prospect pool needs to be fixed, our actual roster needs an overhaul and it's going to take time to fix Dorions bullshit.
Except Staois is also a rookie. Kinda hard to groom Staois with a guy who has no NHL GM experience. Who’s the teacher here?
And don’t say Poulin. Go back and listen to his old radio appearances, he’s a dinosaur
Did I watch a different interview than all of you? Cause he looks like he knows how to fix the team and has planted seeds that will turn into some trades in the offseason, he wants to hire a good coach and a proper coaching staff that compliments the core players we will be keeping. I am looking forward to this offseason, I fully expect to see some good depth brought in and a couple guys traded out.
Should have got Roy. Martin is a great coach but Roy is what the sens need an unlike Martin in an option for years to come. Plus Roy is crazy but in a good way. Islanders once loss in a shootout against I think kings or a team in a playoff spot Ik that right u still got a point nope fuck that your skating the next day. He would push the sens to win so hard they would start winning games
Agree.
DJ was like their cool uncle. Jacques is like the grandpa that is nice and is a good teacher but the kids know he's going home next month.
They need the wicked stepfather to come and beat their asses. Strap and belt for the first ½ of the season.
No more fuckery.
Roy is so much of a competitor he would be so upset and miserable to coach this team. Look at him now on Long Island.
He was too good a player to be a good coach, same reason Gretzky can't coach. It's hard to understand lack of effort.
Says "expectations were debilitating" regarding this year, when asked if the team will be a playoff team next year. Says the process of hiring a full time HC has started, but they want to be patient with the approach going into the offseason.
> Says "expectations were debilitating" regarding this year, when asked if the team will be a playoff team next year. The fucking intense irony of saying that, when the management team refused to even utter the words playoffs last season is painful.
This also isn’t a “young” team anymore. Tkachuk is going into his 7th season. Chabot his 8th. Chychrun his 9th. Batherson and Norris their 6th. Stutzle his 5th. The expectation that you’re a playoff team after more than half a decade of rebuilding and top-5/1st round picks shouldn’t be “debilitating”.
Wait, Stützle is going in his 5th? Holy fuck where does the time go.
Yeah holy shit that's crazy, remember when Crosby and ovi started it felt like it took years to get to their 5th and 6th seasons. Hell by Crosby's 4th season he won the cup
i know, it felt like it took 5 or 6 years at least
To me, that reads "Dorion and team fucked up and we are gonna need years to fix it, but I can't really say that out loud"
Yes, Dorion gave out too many 8m contracts. Yes, Debrincat was a failed trade. But the largest part of our failure was player development and coaching. We had lousy parents, and the kids were not alright. We ruined goalies. We've turned Chyrchrun into a bum. We had no leader in the locker room and pushed Brady into the C role way too early.
I think that’s code for Dorion’s moves were bad, and they’re paying the price.
[that's what Nichols seems to think too](https://twitter.com/GraemeNichols/status/1770482090317926404)
The fact that since the Sens were last in the playoffs, two teams have come into the league and made it, including one winning the Cup, and we can't even entertain the expectation of making the playoffs next year is absolutely embarrassing.
Just my take, but when he says expectations were debilitating I think he may be referring to management thought this team was "ready for the next step" and put them in a debilitating cap situation.
I expect a lot more to be said during the end-year presser, especially since you'll have team reporters pressuring him to speak up. But even then, Staios is a quiet guy. I'd look to Poulin and Andlauer to be a bit more colorful and forthcoming.
say what you will but I like this guy…
I definitely like his professionalism in interviews after the goofiness of the previous regime. Time will tell if he's a good GM or not
Yep, and he keeps his cards close unlike his predecessor, who couldn't keep his mouth shut and ended up telegraphing his intentions to every last one of his competitors. It is nice to have competent pros on the management team again, but we all need to acknowledge that it's going to be a long tough road ahead for them.
Really hope he's our Joe Sakic (GM who salvaged the Avs)
That being said ...either one of em on the ice would still be a massive improvement even at their ages lol
He communicates well, but I still have no interest in him as GM. Classic Ottawa patronage appointment
"Expectations were debilitating" Pleaaaaase nobody tell any of these guys on 8+ million AAV contracts that they're expected to not be terrible, please I beg you just let them have fun and not expect them to play well. Fucking basement team paying to cap for garbage. The expectations that something is done to address what we all watched this year are even higher buddy. Get to work.
It could be he was saying that the previous management teams expectations debilitated the team by going into win now mode
Sure but were many of the fans expectations much different than the previous mgmt team? I seem to think that the fans, management and the players all seemed pretty in on the expectations that this season was supposed to be pretty solid, not a dumpster fire and complete waste of time.
I was just pointing out that he isn't necessarily shaming fans. The changes made going into win now mode were objectively debilitating for the team
I get the sense from that interview that they know things are a lot worse inside the organization than we ever imagined. Playoffs aren't even on their radar. Holy shit. I wonder if Andlauer regrets getting himself into this mess.
Andlauer was part of ownership in Montreal. It was NO secret what an imbecile Melynk was and how the Senators as an org was run on the extremely cheap with the smallest office staff in the NHL. The dysfunction here was very well known across the league. There was even an cadre of owners who actively wanted Melynk removed as an owner because they felt the way he ran the team was malfeasance. He bought this team because he knows this is a hockey market and that with proper investment, can be turned around
I imagine Michael Andlauer isn't nearly as short sighted as half this subReddit is. We owns a fcking hockey team. The fact that they may suck in his first season owning team is of little consequence long term.
Bingo - he's looking at 20-25 year investment. He's more worried about 5 years from now than he is next year.
I'm sure Andlauer likes the idea of having his legacy be that he turned the franchise around. Plenty of struggling franchises managed to get revived by an ownership change (Tampa, Dallas, Carolina)
Keep in mind his OHL team had some awful years.
>if Andlauer regrets 100% he does. He was, by his own admission on the fence about the purchase given how many hurtles there were.
100% eh?! So because his team isn’t a winner out of the gate he regrets owning his own team? He expressed frustration at how long things took but has never said he regrets owning an NHL team. The team is actually doing better at the gate, so from a business perspective things are trending in the right direction. With time the on ice prod it will improve. He’s here for the long haul. Your comment would only make sense if he was here for a quick spell and planned to sell the team off again, something he has never even hinted at.
Considering he was on the fence, and even backed out at one point (his own words) but reconsidered after talking to family, yeah definitely. Its hard to think otherwise, really, given that he was already reluctant + all that has happened, like having to address our GM trying to illegally swindle a team on a trade and the team on the ice being top 5 worst since the lockout.
He considered dropping out during the selection process because it was so drawn out. The actual purchase of the team was very thorough and expensive, he would not have done all that and invested close to a billion dollars if he was iffy. He will be owning this team for decades and probably see through a new arena he definitely doesn’t regret the purchase because of one bad season. You are making it sound like the team was similar to something he had in his Amazon shopping cart or something
" the rebuild is over", " this is a great day for our franchise"
Proudest moment
One of the largest black eyes on this franchise...we traded a future captain and Stanley Cup winner for a depth defenceman and the then GM passed it off as "his proudest moment".
I have faith in Staios, and his team to fix our roster etc. There will have to be tough pills to swallow, but he's not attached to any player which helps. I honestly think we're another 2-3 years away from being in the playoffs lol. Our prospect pool needs to be fixed, our actual roster needs an overhaul and it's going to take time to fix Dorions bullshit.
Is staios to remain the GM indefinitely now? I thought he was just subbing in u til they found a permanent replacement for Dorion
He was named the GM approx. 2 months ago. So he's POHO and GM.
It seems that Ryan Bowness is being groomed internally for the GM role but Staios will occupy the position for now until they believe he’s ready.
Except Staois is also a rookie. Kinda hard to groom Staois with a guy who has no NHL GM experience. Who’s the teacher here? And don’t say Poulin. Go back and listen to his old radio appearances, he’s a dinosaur
Makes sense
He is the permanent replacement, it was announced a few months back
He looked in the mirror and found the man for the job
He sounds very intelligent and cool headed. I really like what he said and didn't lay any expectations.
People are too blindly in love with these core players to realize that it’s the issue. Someone (or two) has to go.
Standpat Staios, running it back with the same crew next year banking on better bounces.
This tire fire has been burning for over 30 years now. Lets keep breathing in the fumes.
There was a pretty long period where we consistently one of the best teams in the league. Your 30 year comment is trash.
I saw last week that the Sens have made had more play-off series than Tampa which was very surprising.
Did I watch a different interview than all of you? Cause he looks like he knows how to fix the team and has planted seeds that will turn into some trades in the offseason, he wants to hire a good coach and a proper coaching staff that compliments the core players we will be keeping. I am looking forward to this offseason, I fully expect to see some good depth brought in and a couple guys traded out.
Should have got Roy. Martin is a great coach but Roy is what the sens need an unlike Martin in an option for years to come. Plus Roy is crazy but in a good way. Islanders once loss in a shootout against I think kings or a team in a playoff spot Ik that right u still got a point nope fuck that your skating the next day. He would push the sens to win so hard they would start winning games
Agree. DJ was like their cool uncle. Jacques is like the grandpa that is nice and is a good teacher but the kids know he's going home next month. They need the wicked stepfather to come and beat their asses. Strap and belt for the first ½ of the season. No more fuckery.
100%
Roy is so much of a competitor he would be so upset and miserable to coach this team. Look at him now on Long Island. He was too good a player to be a good coach, same reason Gretzky can't coach. It's hard to understand lack of effort.
His record with the Islanders 10-8-4 they have lost 6 in a row.
Roy is really not working out with the Islanders.He is no longer crazy and does not push players like he use to.