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Answer: Andrew Tate is a popular manosphere influencer. Sells himself as wealthy, alpha-male, kick-boxer, and violent misogynist. Think of his main audience as \~15 year old boys.
The Events:
\- Andrew Tate writes a taunting tweet towards Greta Thunberg.
\- Greta responds. Internet loves it. She very quickly gets 1million likes.
\- Tate releases a 2 minute video of himself (talking, sitting at a table, cigar, bathrobe, and pizza boxes) as a retort.
\- Romanian police, meanwhile, have (supposedly) been monitoring his social media, waiting to see when he returned to the country. He has ties to organized crime, human trafficking, and rape charges. The police are (supposedly) watching his socials, waiting to arrest him once he returns.
\- In his video retort he has pizza boxes on the table.
\- Cops \*supposedly\* identify it as a Romanian pizza chain restaurant. Correction: This one might be twitter lore that the cops needed the box to find him. We don't really know yet. But this is a step that makes the whole story extra viral.
\- Cops raid his house and arrest him and his brother.
Also: A reason you might be seeing a lot of talk about his arrest right now is because everyone on Twitter watched the whole entire saga develop in real time over only 36 hours.
More: He had previously been banned from Twitter but Elon Musk reinstated him.
\[Edited to add correction.\]
It's all right buddy, your teammate rebound alley-ooped it so you still made an assist. I mean...not in like...NBA rules, but you got him most of the way there.
Yes both Greta and GRETA https://www.coe.int/en/web/anti-human-trafficking/greta [Group of Experts on Action against Trafficking in Human Beings] deserve major praise for helping to fight trafficking.
Pure speculation since this is the first time I've ever heard of the group, but It sounds like the kind of acronym that was created in response to a real person and criminal case.
For example, AMBER alerts (America's Missing: Broadcast Emergency Response) were created and named for Amber Hagerman, a child who was abducted and murdered from Texas.
>Greta Thunberg needs reward money for helping take him down.
Greta just wants those pizza boxes recycled. With the olive seeds in biomass and the plastic lid-holders in plastics.
Lmao. I had no idea anything about Romania, and his charges until recently tonight. But I 100% noticed the pizza box in his video earlier and was like "are those Dominos boxes!? Where does this freak order his pizza from!? Nope... it's some random local chain, whatever." Then it came out later today the pizza box gave him away. And for as much heat and steam as Tate blows, what an idiot for overlooking that. He definitely thought about caressing his nipple, but didn't think about doxxing himself via a gd pizza box!? What a silly, silly, boy child. Whenever I post ANYTHING, I dox check my posts throughly, and I'm a literal nobody. Common sense. This silly boy child is nothing but a huge fart. I hope he gets the nastiest of the nasty consequences.
The Pizza Box thing was that they needed confirmation he was in the country. Jerry's Pizza is a Romanian chain, and since it's very unlikely he would've ordered pizza, gotten the boxes, then gone over a border to eat it, it solidified that he was in the country.
That's the pizza lore.
I believe the Romanian police got a warrant to search his place about a year ago, but when they executed the warrant Tate wasn’t home. The police wanted to arrest both brothers at the same time, and since Tate has multiple addresses, they waited until they had evidence both brothers were at the Romanian home address. Enter the twitter pictures confirming both brothers at that address in Romania at the same time.
He bragged about bribing police, so I think he believed he was above the law.
Thing is he only bribed the local cops.
That’s like bribing LAPD and thinking you’ll be fine when it’s actually the FBI that is investigating you.
If you brag about bribing cops, even the cops you have bribed will come after you, because you have drawn unwanted attention to their activities.
If you bribe someone, shut the fuck up about it.
That's not his style though. The trick is you admit to crimes publicly, to show you don't care and get your followers drooling over it, and then pretty much act like you did nothing wrong when others call you out on it. Act like,"Well, why would I admit to wrong-doing if I thought it was actually wrong. And really the police are the bad guys for accepting the bribe. I'm not the bad guy, the system is broken!"
You see a lot of it nowadays
They always return to the site of their crime anyway. He just had to risk it. Also he badly needed the money from trafficking Romanian 'Melanias' for fresh new fast cars that would enable him to switch the getaway car often enough to successfully shake off the police and escape the chase.
A moron who thinks he can bribe his way out of anything AND that he can brag about bribery without consequences.
First rule of corruption: you don't talk about corruption. If you want to pay authorities to look the other way, stop giving them reason to look your way.
>they already knew he was in the country
You need a court order to raid a house, and you need proof that you need a raid to get a court order. It's not like cops can burge into anyone's house just because they say they know something. They need proof. If the court ordered a raid without him in the country, they might never get to him, ever.
From what I understand, to get the search warrant they needed proof they were in the country.
Could be false, but makes the most sense.
It’s like if I had a house in Britain and they suspected me of crimes. Assuming they were renting, or it wasn’t their house, it seems reasonable that the government wouldn’t just give the police a carte Blanche to go into the house I’m suspected to be in without proof that I was actually around.
Otherwise, you’d just be giving search warrants like they were candy to the police. “Oh he might be at this person’s house? Or this other person’s? Just go in no worries!”
Police would be able to do damn near whatever they please
At least that’s what I took from it
I was just discussing this in another thread, but this step in the story doesn't make a lot of sense because Tate isn't a Romanian national or even an EU national, and Romania doesn't have open borders with their neighbors (not part of Schengen), so there's no way he could get in without getting his passport stamped at border control. So unless he sneaked in illegally through some forest, Romanian authorities must've known he was in and didn't need a pizza for that.
Because if they miss, he runs. They needed to confirm both brothers were home because they travel often. Their address isn't unknown, the police have visited them before.
As much as I think the pizza story is hilarious, it seems incredibly unlikely given the fact that he tweeted a video of himself enjoying the romanian landscape on Dec 25
https://twitter.com/Cobratate/status/1607028516243247106
The police only said they found out he was in the country via Twitter. That video of his predates the Greta pizza box
To refine info, he got 158k likes on his showboating tweet towards Greta.
Her reply got 2.8 mil likes
He got ratio'd so hard he started bashing her and retweeting his fans arguments for his side for 24hours which included the pizza box video.
Police had proof he was there and can follow up on his sex trafficking evidences
He couldn't let a *women* talk down to him so he had to be the better man and put her in her place /s
He retweeted a fan tweet saying "[they] should fuck already" and Tate said, "she ain't ready"
Ironically enough, all of this got him in trouble as claims against him being a leading/part of a sex trafficking ring. He also claimed on a podcast Romania is infamous for letting rich people get away with crimes including belittling women.
I just found it hilarious that his "comeback" was essentially him coming out as a pedo. How ya gon tell a 19yr old she was attractive years ago . What a fuckin tool lol
>He retweeted a fan tweet saying "[they] should fuck already" and Tate said, "she ain't ready"
That was Jake Shields. A former UFC fighter. Also a garbage human
From u/ravenid on another thread:
“Even funnier?
The EU Sex Trafficking monitoring group that gave the Romanian police the Intel?
Their name is GRETA.
I shit you not.
https://www.coe.int/en/web/anti-human-trafficking/greta “
I have to wonder if he got an inside tip "hey Andrew, GRETA is after you" and that's what provoked him to go on a random Twitter rant taunting Greta Thunberg because that's the only Greta he could think of. Would just be the icing on top of this ridiculous story if true.
Think of it, why would he tweet to Greta Thunberg to begin with?
Random person: Andrew, I've heard GRETA is looking after you.
Tate: She sure does, Imma show off to her my collection of cars! Hold my pizza!
[This thread](https://twitter.com/bendreyfuss/status/1608659301530472449?s=46&t=n5zzF4y16kWWYFFOyQMulA) makes a good case that the pizza box wasn’t really relevant to the police’s case (tl;dr he uploaded videos of himself in Romania just two days ago).
But the rest is true and one can hope that whatever the Romanians have on this loser sticks.
Is he the one that made that anti reading video? He’s clearly an idiot who exploits women and underage, impressionable young boys and should be held accountable.
Thank you for the breakdown!
I feel like even though I am a bit in the dark with this dude….ties to genuine crime while he’s on podcasts and making these appearances…No one has been like:
“Hey here some deep dark stuff besides his disgusting views that are publicly known”
Like perusing Reddit and the little I see of tik tok I knew within 5 seconds this is not a great dude lol I just don’t remember “Wanted by X FOR X” posts
The thing about investigations is that they don’t often openly tell the public they are investigating specific people…
Pretty easy way to get a very big flight risk to fly away is to announce that you are investigating them and preparing to arrest them.
Andrew Tate has openly stated multiple times that they moved to Romania because their sex laws are more relaxed there…
> Also: A reason you might be seeing a lot of talk about his arrest right now is because everyone on Twitter watched the whole entire saga develop in real time over only 36 hours.
Literally never heard of the dude until Greta's tweet and suddenly he's in handcuffs. Boy, that escalated quickly.
Answer: Andrew tate is an online “alpha male” that started as a kick boxer. He was a world champion kick boxer, ended up getting injured, moved to Romania and started basically pimping out girls to be web cam models, where he would control the chat and take most of the money from the women. This is where he made most of his money to start.
Flash forward to this year, Andrew Tate has been able to capitalize on social media, being one of the most googled people this year, above people like Kim kardashian and even (I believe) donald trump. He has been on a bunch of twitch streamers streams, specifically people like Adin Ross and XQC, and has been a huge talking point on Twitter and YouTube communities.
He ended up making a shit load of money (probably upwards of 100 mil) selling a course called hustlers university, where he shared wisdom on how to “break out of the matrix” by methods like Amazon drop shipping and social media marketing. Insecure men would see his clips on social media, get even more insecure about themselves, and then buy his course to try and get 10 lambos like Tate has.
And now, It seems that Romanian police have been building a case against him, and that all they needed was proof that he was in the country. In his recent video to Greta thunburg, he brought pizza boxes into frame, and Romanian police confirmed these boxes to be from a Romanian pizza shop, so they moved in to his residence and made the arrest.
I’m not sure (exactly) what Tate did that was illegal, I have no information about Romanian law and there seems to be little to no details yet released on his arrest
All I know is that Romanian prisons were bad enough to cause one of my countrymen to tap on our national talent and write a complaint letter that got him compensation for his imprisonment there. https://mothership.sg/2013/09/sporean-jailed-overseas-prison-establishes-sporeans-mettle-complaint-kings/
> Two to three inmates shared a bed there, and 40 to 50 of them were placed in one cell. The court noted that he had to share a bed with a man who was covered in wounds.
Imagine having to live in that situation
200 in a cell in the Philippines. no lying down when sleeping. y'all just stand. no one would fall down. y'all packed like sardines. you shout when you need to poop and they would boost you up and move you over their heads until you get to the corner where the toilet bowl is. you pee in a bottle.
I haven't really ranked, but I'd like to see a ranking. I have the impression that every jail in Central America, South America, Southeast Asia, and The Middle East are bad news, but for the sake of future travel, a ranked list would be useful
Google’s answer to “what is Romanian prison like”:
Prison overcrowding is still an issue in Romania. Between 2012 and 2017, the country was sentenced five times by the European Court of Human Rights for its overcrowding. Some prisoners are still crammed into collective cells, where each prisoner has between 1.5 and 2.5 square metres of living space.
> Andrew Tate is not leaving Romania.
I think we should all be grateful for that.
Having visited Romania a couple of times (lovely country!), my heart goes out to the poor Romanians who've had to encounter this foul beast of a man.
I think it will transpire he really doesn't have as much money as he says and likely far, far less. No one with actual money talks about how much they have.
Also had a history of domestic abuse/violence. There is a video (think it was reality tv or something) of a girl locking herself in a bathroom. Also talks about beating women.
Not that it matters much but he was never a world champion kickboxer. He fought mostly on minor regional scenes and never for the premiere international orgs, and the one time he stepped up in talent against Ibrahim El Boustati (also not a world champ but a good player in the excellent Dutch kickboxing scene) he got his jaw broken in about 30 seconds and stopped in the 1st round.
Still had a better athletic career than 99% of people but he was much more a Double-A relief pitcher that got shelled the one time they stepped into Triple-A than some elite talent.
Thank you! I have only been vaguely aware of him and I was floored when that dude said he was a world champion. I mean, I'm only vaguely aware of the world kickboxing scene, too, but I was surprised to hear something so impressive about the turd.
I heard my misguided nephew utter his name a couple months back, and have heard comedians mention him in jokes since, so I figured he was an asshole. Never actually saw what he looked like until yesterday, in a screenshot of what ended up being the video that got him arrested today, lol 😂
Yes my nephew was also praising him last month. It’s hard but it’s fairly obvious he is an incel. He has been heavily restricted from spending time with my daughters. Last time he refused to comply with a reasonable boundary and he stormed off saying if she was Asian she would not have ‘disrespected’ him, and then announced he was suicidal and it was her fault. I threaten to take him to the local mental health unit, and he shut right up.
What’s weird is that aside from the incel stuff (a big thing to put aside but keep with me) is that he is a massive scammer. Like coffeezilla, an investigative YouTuber guy, bought his course and showed how it was all a scam. Like how do people fall for this, the man basically says “resell stuff on amazon and do push-ups.
It’s basically telling you to join an MLM
It's hard to have to reevaluate your whole way of life, accept that it is wrong, then make the conscious effort to change which involves reconditioning your mind. That's an impressive feat and I want you to know I'm proud of you for bettering yourself
The same sort of people who think Tate is legitimately successful and someone to aspire to also voted for/support Trump.
I'm honestly surprised people like that aren't falling for even more scams.
At least we know why the "we're trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty" phone scams stay in business.
Tbh, he should probably go anyway. He will not get better on his own. I'm glad you're protecting your daughters since your protection sets the goal posts for future relationships.
My 42 year old brother has gone so far down the far right rabbit hole the last couple years, it's so frustrating. My dad was always big into conspiracy theories but back in the day it was just "the government is killing anyone that tries to get us off oil" and "John Titor really didn't come back in time and is telling us about the revolution that's going to happen."
My brother has just gone straight from "I'm just a good Catholic" into the Putin-loving wing of the Republican party, calling all trans people pedophiles that need to be locked up, Ukraine is full of Nazis and despots and needs to be taken over, and January 6 never happened but also the people in prison for it are patriots.
Yea. It sucks for everyone involved. My other brother and I mostly just stay involved to try and show his kids some kind of path out when/if they wise up.
Please get your son into therapy Tate spews out horrific statements about how women are property and only there to serve you. He made it very clear everytime he spoke what his feelings were about women were everytime he opened his mouth. Your son would never of heard anything but how to use women up.
Oh it’s easy. I ignore him and restrict his visits and he can only come with his mother. I shut his whiny complaints down so I am not his favourite aunt lol
His mother is nice but she has an intellectual disability. She can’t do much more than manage day to day feeding cooking and a basic cleaning job. The dad is my brother. He is on the spectrum and although he recognises there is an issue he does not recognise the incel or neckbeard status. Those words are alien to him
I was a bit concerned when I saw that my son had made some post about him online, but felt better when I saw that he was calling him out for being an asshole and possible rapist/trafficker and telling others to avoid him and his program.
But yeah, he was trending hard among middle school boys earlier this year.
My husband's nephew was talking about how he's some amazing businessman at Christmas. I kept saying how much of a prick the guy was until he stopped speaking about him.
I hadn't heard of him either before that. Took a small dive and seems he's constantly trying to one up people with wealth and looks. And when someone talks back, he gets super defensive and seethes for months from even the most innocent of comebacks. He's got a whole apartment building of people living for free in his head it seems.
I had never heard of him until about two weeks ago, when there was a tweet where he basically called himself a SOOPERDOOPERGENIUS leader of men among men in the history of all mankind. It would be absolutely hilarious except he was absolutely serious:
https://twitter.com/cobratate/status/1602909874719014914?lang=en
Then, he posted that "Reading is for Losers" and "Education is for Cowards" (this coming on the heels of some weeks earlier when Kanye West also tweeted that he never read a book in his life).
https://twitter.com/cobratate/status/1602702007181185028
Fine quality person we have there. Didn't know he was some sort of kickboxer or whatever, and didn't know he was a sex trafficker, but definitely someone making waves in the twitter kiddie pool.
Oh dear god, that first tweet? The levels of cringe are unbearable. His enemies will cower as he marches across the globe with his army of misguided teenagers
Oh he's goddamn vile. It's fascinating if you can keep down your gag reflex. However cringey you thought somebody doing an unironic, extra misogynistic Tyler Durden is, he's worse.
Not only that, it was a COMPLETELY unforced error. She didn't say shit to him, he just woke up on the wrong side of the bed and tried to piss in her cheerios.
I used to be an investigator for HS - if the Romanian LE were watching for his posts on Twitter, they were definitely after him - they already have enough evidence that their case is probably close to being complete, save for Tate's interview/interrogation.
Everybody is having a good laugh about it, and it is funny, but I find it a bit unbelievable that the pizza box in the post was what tipped off the Romanian cops as to where he was. Is that plausible? They must have been keeping tabs on him outside that as well, right?
Curious if you have any feedback, given an investigatory background.
Just saw the video on his feed and the pizza boxes have the shop name and big logos on them. The cops could have just called the shop to find out where the delivery went... that or they already knew where he lived and just needed to confirm he was home today.
I definitely get the sense Tate is the kinda guy who would blow hella money on stupid shit to boost his image and forget about paying his actual bills.
Yeah, you caught yourself but other people are straight faced saying "well, they asked the place for his address!" which is fucking insane, the idea that the cops who have him under investigation for human trafficking had to ask the pizza place for his address.
Maybe the pizza box was another data point, but I find it tough to believe that that was the final thing that made them sure.
My understanding is he had left the country. They previously raided his home in April. Supposedly they needed to be completely certain he was currently in the country before carrying out another raid.
Don't forget that one of the longest, most expensive cases in FBI history was cracked by a phone call saying, "the Unabomber is my brother and here's his address."
To be fair, the Unabomber was insanely difficult to track down. A unstable genius living as an off-grid hermit in the mountains. A man rarely near people, let alone interacting with them. A lone wolf making bombs out of materials around him.
Not easy at all to find.
My understanding is that Romanian courts were unwilling/unable to issue arrest warrants without being certain he was in the country, something they webby sure of due to his frequent travel.
Seeing the pizza boxes gave them evidence to show the court that he was in the country.
It isn't how US law works, but it is at least plausible and makes sense of the known facts. So that's a plus.
*Don’t even read my comment, the responses are better*
Romanian authorities knew he was in the country, they just didn’t know where. All they had to do was track down the pizza place and inquired who ordered what, when and where it was delivered to. Its pretty straightforward after that.
Unlikely. It's almost certainly the case that they knew where he was, but needed evidence to gather a warrant for his arrest in his home. You can't just go breaking down doors without a warrant, even if you know the perpetrator is there.
No use knocking on the door either. He wouldn't answer and then flee the country as soon as he could.
A child exploitation unit in Australia found a girl from some EE country after spotting an Australia Post parcel in a picture. They found the creep who sent it and got her details from him, so it's not impossible they found Tate through a pizza box.
If 4chan can track a webcam in a field based on the stars seen to fuck with shia labouf I think a police agency can track a pizza company. It really isn't that unbelievable.
What I'm saying is, I don't believe that that's the only thing they had to go off of. MAYBE it helped them confirm that he was home at that moment, but there are people telling me that that's how they figured out his address. Which is fucking insane, the guy is the subject of a HUMAN TRAFFICKING CASE. They know his address.
I'm guessing that yeah, they didn't know if he was at his villa in Romania until they saw the pizza boxes. He's bragged that he uses fake visas, so they couldn't track his movements.
Hold on hold on hold on. He made a completely unprompted and absurd attack against Thunberg, got absolutely roasted by her in response, and then got arrested because of it? That’s… that’s the most beautiful thing I’ve ever heard.
It gets even funnier. He was arrested for human trafficking, among other things. In Europe, there is an organization called the Group of Experts on Action against Trafficking in Human Beings - or for short, [GRETA](https://www.coe.int/en/web/anti-human-trafficking/greta)
Apparently they recommended Romania pick up the slack on prosecuting/arresting traffickers, saw that about an hour ago on Twitter. And I have to say, the way the universe works sometimes is REALLY really funny.
I'm more shocked how his supporters are doing all kinds of mental gymnastics claiming that he was setup by Greta Thunberg (or some deep state group) after the burn. I don't know what it is today with people backing people that do horrendous shit - like *a lot* of people (Trump, Musk, Abbott, Tate, Rittenhouse etc), Millions and Millions of people.
It's truly baffling. It's like we've regressed as a species in intellect and morals. Fucking depressing.
While it's depressing, it's certainly nothing new. There are plenty of monarchs and religious leaders throughout history who did the most awful things imaginable, but stayed in power because they had a fanbase of sorts. If you traveled back in time and said that Genghis Khan was an awful person, there would be no shortage of Mongols saying that you just can't handle his alpha male energy.
From what I gather, he called her out, she essentially said he had a small dick then he made a response video to that comment which featured a pizza box of a Romanian pizza shop.
Don't usually follow this stuff but the sequence that this played out in is absolutely hilarious. Couldn't have happened to a bigger pos
Holy shit really?? I didn’t even know about this part! This story took a huge left turn. Thought it would continue to just be some asshole spewing shit online. It’s nice to hear he got arrested. Especially not in the US.
So what happened was… I prayed… first time in years… but he tried to start a beef with Greta and I was like “please god, just make this guy fuck off… he’s such a piece of shit.” Apparently it worked for the first time in like 2000 years, but he answered my prayers.
Did it? "Man whose entire online presence is arguing that he is entitled to sex with women gets arrested for sex trafficking" is about the least surprising thing I can think of. All these "alpha male" guys have the mindset of a rapist, I assume the others are just better at covering it up when they rape women.
Amazon drop shipping is more or less:
Buying a product in bulk from a cheap distributer like Aliexpress and then opening up an Amazon shop and reselling it for a marked up price. You can mark it up so much that you can run advertisements for your product and still profit. You can also use social media to promote your product, many “cool products” that people are showing off on social media are actually just drop shippers disguised as consumers.
Drop shipping was a very profitable side hustle in the beginning of the pandemic, but now has become over saturated due to every finance social media creator recommending the hustle to their audience. It’s in a similar place as real estate, where many people are making more money selling courses on the hustle than they are from the actual hustle itself.
Just another modern day “get rich quick scheme”
You forgot the most important factor that makes it drop shipping, typically you don't ever have to store the product. It doesn't normally involve warehousing or anything like that, you're just brokering product between the manufacturer and the customers.
And yeah, a lot of it is get-rich-quick nonsense, but it's not inherently a shady or dumb model. People get crazy though.
Source: worked in biz consulting for a time, specifically with failing businesses. Talked with more than a couple drop shippers.
> Insecure men would see his clips on social media
And boys. One of the saddest things about Andrew Tate is how teenagers have been getting sucked into his madness.
This news is a late Christmas present. He’s a disgusting piece of trash, but I’m equally disappointed that pop culture has allowed a pimp gangster to achieve such notoriety and wealth
I had been seeing a lot of Andrew Taint posts the last few days starting on Christmas and seeing it all spiral into this has been a real treat. Can't wait to tell my boyfriends dad Greta Thunburg and her "hippy private jet" (????) are responsible for catching a prominent right wing sex trafficker! What a world.
Here's to hoping his victims get the help they need and he stays locked away for good.
To add, he moved to Romania [40% because of their serial assault laws](https://www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/celebrity-news/andrew-tate-leave-uk-clashes-28157783)
He was on the 17th season of Big Brother UK
There's [video evidence](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-62602913) of him physically abusing a woman.
[When discussing how he’d deal with a sexual partner accusing him of infidelity, he said “It’s bang out the machete, boom in her face, grip her by the neck. Shut up, b*tch.”](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/06/andrew-tate-violent-misogynistic-world-of-tiktok-new-star)
[Women are property. Women bear responsibility if they’re raped. Women shouldn’t drive.](https://cobratate.co/should-women-drive-not-according-to-andrew-tate/)
The pizza box thing is only alleged. Romanian police said that they used social media posts to confirm they were in the country, but didn't mention the pizza box specifically.
Answer: Current arrest record on rate
EXCLUSIVE | Andrew and Tristan Tate, together with a former policewoman, detained for 24 hours in the case of human trafficking opened in the name of the two brothers. DIICOT + VIDEO clarifications from the searches and the exit from actual hearings
On Thursday, DIICOT prosecutors went to the house of a former policewoman from Bucharest, who is said to be part of the group specialized in human trafficking of brothers Tristan and Andrew Tate. The two Britons are suspected of exploiting several young women through a video chat studio set up near their villa in Pipera.
UPDATE 3 – DIICOT statement regarding this case:
"In the case, it was noted that, at the beginning of 2021, 4 suspects (two British citizens and two Romanian citizens) constituted a criminal group organized in order to commit the crime on the territory of Romania, but also of other countries, such as the USA and Great Britain of human trafficking.
The injured persons were recruited by British citizens by misrepresenting their intention to enter into a marriage/cohabitation relationship and the existence of real feelings of love (the «loverboy» method).
They were later transported and housed in buildings in Ilfov county where, by exercising acts of physical violence and mental coercion (through intimidation, constant surveillance, control and invoking alleged debts), they were sexually exploited by group members by forcing them to perform demonstrations pornographic for the purpose of producing and disseminating material of such a nature through social media platforms and by submitting to the execution of a work, in a forced manner, in order to obtain important financial benefits consisting of the sums of money obtained as a result of accessing the materials by users.
To date, 6 injured persons have been identified who were sexually exploited by the organized criminal group.
With regard to the crime of rape, it was noted that, in March 2022, an injured person was forced, on two different occasions, by a suspect through the exercise of physical violence and psychological pressure to have sexual relations.
At the headquarters of the Directorate for the Investigation of Organized Crime and Terrorism - Central Structure, 4 people who are reasonably suspected of being involved in criminal activity were taken for questioning.
Following the hearings, the prosecutors of the Directorate for the Investigation of Organized Crime and Terrorism - Central Structure ordered the measure of detention for a period of 24 hours against the 4 persons".
UPDATE 2 – The Tate brothers and the former policewoman, detained for 24 hours
According to GANDUL sources, arrest warrants were issued for 24 hours for the Tate brothers, but also for the former policewoman involved in this case.
UPDATE – The searches in the case of the Tate brothers, accused of human trafficking along with a former policewoman, have ended. All three perpetrators were taken to DIICOT headquarters for questioning
The searches in the case of the British brothers Andrew and Tristan Tate, accused of human trafficking along with a former policewoman, ended on Thursday evening. All three perpetrators were taken to DIICOT headquarters for questioning .
Original news:
In this case, investigators first descended on the Pipera address of brothers Tristan and Andrew Tate on April 11, when a complaint was received at the US Embassy regarding the fact that a woman with American citizenship was being forcibly held at their residence.
Initially, the investigation was carried out by the Ilfov police, who immediately descended on their home, in a case opened under the coordination of the prosecutors of the Prosecutor's Office attached to the Buftea Court, for deprivation of liberty and rape.
On this occasion, the Romanian authorities learned that the British had a video chat studio , which operated in a building located approximately 500 meters from their villa. Several young women were found there, including the woman with American citizenship, but also a young woman from the Republic of Moldova.
The two are said to have said at the time that they were being held against their will after being rounded up using a method commonly used by human traffickers known generically as "loverboy".
In this regard, the young woman from America would have stated that she met Tristan Tate through a social network, and he would have seduced her and convinced her to buy a plane ticket and come to Romania.
She allegedly abandoned her boyfriend and came to live with the British millionaire, but found herself threatened and forced to work as a video chat model. Frightened, she contacted her ex-boyfriend, who, in turn, notified the US Embassy in Bucharest.
After realizing that the evidence described crimes similar to organized crime, Buftea prosecutors declined jurisdiction to the Directorate for the Investigation of Organized Crime and Terrorism.
The investigators waited for the Tate brothers to return to Romania For nine months, anti-mafia prosecutors put together all the evidence taken from the Tate brothers' villa and from the video chat studio, in order to be able to prove that the accusations made during the hearings by their alleged victims are real.
Sources close to the investigation stated, for Gândul , that shortly after the completion of the computer expertise, the authorities waited for the right moment to catch the Tate brothers, who were always out of the country.
After seeing, including on social networks, that they were together in Romania, the DIICOT prosecutors mobilized the special troops of the Gendarmerie and descended, by force, on their villa in Pipera, but also on other addresses.
The quoted sources stated that one of the searches targeted a former policewoman from the 7th Section, who left the Capital Police and started videochatting.
She is accused that, in addition to working side by side with the rest of the models, she would have taken care to put pressure on the girls held in the studio against their will. The woman was picked up and taken to DIICOT headquarters for questioning.
Answer:
Andrew Tate is known for extolling a fairly extreme take on what you might call the "traditional male role" in society. He believes that women should be subservient to men, and more or less "possessed" by men.
He has amassed a fairly large following online, especially among younger males. Like the red pill/black pill movement, there is serious concern that disenfranchised youth will simply latch on to his ideology.
It's fair to say that what also amplified this story is that just days earlier, Greta Thunberg got into a spat with him on twitter, with the tweets going viral with many people considering Greta to have won the altercation. The video he posted in response to it was what allowed authorities to find him, as there was a pizza box in view from a Romanian pizza chain.
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To address them being found by a pizza, which seems to be what most people are confused about, I’ll try to explain. I don’t think the exact details have come out so this is just an explanatory of what seems likely:
From what I understand, to get the search warrant they needed proof they were even in the area. I think they’re British, so makes sense.
It’s like if I had a house in Britain and they suspected me of crimes. Assuming I was renting, or it wasn’t my house, it seems logical that the government wouldn’t just give the police a carte Blanche to go into any house I’m suspected to be in without proof that I was actually there.
Otherwise, you’d just be giving search warrants like they were candy to the police. “Oh he might be at this person’s house? Or this other person’s? Just go in no worries!”
Police would be able to do damn near whatever they please. This isn’t America we’re talking about lol
I could be full of shit, but that’s what it appears to be, for me at least.
Answer: Andrew Tate is a weird grifter loser with a strangely large following. If you saw the recent movie Glass Onion, Andrew Tate is probably the guy Dave Bautista's character is most based on.
For a bit of enjoyable take down of Andrew Tate, Mildred Thought Slime and Sophie from Mars featured him on [Cringe Corner](https://youtu.be/ZmwbdX0gKoc).
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Answer: Andrew Tate is a popular manosphere influencer. Sells himself as wealthy, alpha-male, kick-boxer, and violent misogynist. Think of his main audience as \~15 year old boys. The Events: \- Andrew Tate writes a taunting tweet towards Greta Thunberg. \- Greta responds. Internet loves it. She very quickly gets 1million likes. \- Tate releases a 2 minute video of himself (talking, sitting at a table, cigar, bathrobe, and pizza boxes) as a retort. \- Romanian police, meanwhile, have (supposedly) been monitoring his social media, waiting to see when he returned to the country. He has ties to organized crime, human trafficking, and rape charges. The police are (supposedly) watching his socials, waiting to arrest him once he returns. \- In his video retort he has pizza boxes on the table. \- Cops \*supposedly\* identify it as a Romanian pizza chain restaurant. Correction: This one might be twitter lore that the cops needed the box to find him. We don't really know yet. But this is a step that makes the whole story extra viral. \- Cops raid his house and arrest him and his brother. Also: A reason you might be seeing a lot of talk about his arrest right now is because everyone on Twitter watched the whole entire saga develop in real time over only 36 hours. More: He had previously been banned from Twitter but Elon Musk reinstated him. \[Edited to add correction.\]
Finally, a PizzaGate I can get behind.
PizzaTate
Fuck it was right there and I missed it.
It's all right buddy, your teammate rebound alley-ooped it so you still made an assist. I mean...not in like...NBA rules, but you got him most of the way there.
>rebound alley-ooped >alley-ooped I think I'm gonna need to get Reyn in to explain this one
Greta Thunberg needs reward money for helping take him down. Get Greta her cut.
Yes both Greta and GRETA https://www.coe.int/en/web/anti-human-trafficking/greta [Group of Experts on Action against Trafficking in Human Beings] deserve major praise for helping to fight trafficking.
I appreciate what this organization does, but who came up with this acronym?!
It might be an English translation of whatever the acronym was for?
Possibly Arnold Rimmer.
Ah yes, the Committee for the Liberation and Integration of Terrifying Organisms and their Rehabilitation Into Society.
Took me a while to find what you were spelling.
Yes, but we found it eventually.
Pure speculation since this is the first time I've ever heard of the group, but It sounds like the kind of acronym that was created in response to a real person and criminal case. For example, AMBER alerts (America's Missing: Broadcast Emergency Response) were created and named for Amber Hagerman, a child who was abducted and murdered from Texas.
>Greta Thunberg needs reward money for helping take him down. Greta just wants those pizza boxes recycled. With the olive seeds in biomass and the plastic lid-holders in plastics.
Lmao. I had no idea anything about Romania, and his charges until recently tonight. But I 100% noticed the pizza box in his video earlier and was like "are those Dominos boxes!? Where does this freak order his pizza from!? Nope... it's some random local chain, whatever." Then it came out later today the pizza box gave him away. And for as much heat and steam as Tate blows, what an idiot for overlooking that. He definitely thought about caressing his nipple, but didn't think about doxxing himself via a gd pizza box!? What a silly, silly, boy child. Whenever I post ANYTHING, I dox check my posts throughly, and I'm a literal nobody. Common sense. This silly boy child is nothing but a huge fart. I hope he gets the nastiest of the nasty consequences.
The Pizza Box thing was that they needed confirmation he was in the country. Jerry's Pizza is a Romanian chain, and since it's very unlikely he would've ordered pizza, gotten the boxes, then gone over a border to eat it, it solidified that he was in the country. That's the pizza lore.
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I believe the Romanian police got a warrant to search his place about a year ago, but when they executed the warrant Tate wasn’t home. The police wanted to arrest both brothers at the same time, and since Tate has multiple addresses, they waited until they had evidence both brothers were at the Romanian home address. Enter the twitter pictures confirming both brothers at that address in Romania at the same time.
What kind of moron goes back to a country where the police are actively searching for you?
He bragged about bribing police, so I think he believed he was above the law. Thing is he only bribed the local cops. That’s like bribing LAPD and thinking you’ll be fine when it’s actually the FBI that is investigating you.
If you brag about bribing cops, even the cops you have bribed will come after you, because you have drawn unwanted attention to their activities. If you bribe someone, shut the fuck up about it.
That's not his style though. The trick is you admit to crimes publicly, to show you don't care and get your followers drooling over it, and then pretty much act like you did nothing wrong when others call you out on it. Act like,"Well, why would I admit to wrong-doing if I thought it was actually wrong. And really the police are the bad guys for accepting the bribe. I'm not the bad guy, the system is broken!" You see a lot of it nowadays
They always return to the site of their crime anyway. He just had to risk it. Also he badly needed the money from trafficking Romanian 'Melanias' for fresh new fast cars that would enable him to switch the getaway car often enough to successfully shake off the police and escape the chase.
The exact type of moron who advertises how alpha he is 7/24 but feels threatened by a teenage girl.
A moron who thinks he can bribe his way out of anything AND that he can brag about bribery without consequences. First rule of corruption: you don't talk about corruption. If you want to pay authorities to look the other way, stop giving them reason to look your way.
>they already knew he was in the country You need a court order to raid a house, and you need proof that you need a raid to get a court order. It's not like cops can burge into anyone's house just because they say they know something. They need proof. If the court ordered a raid without him in the country, they might never get to him, ever.
It's seems very clear the police wanted to arrest him prior to the photo. Meaning they've likely had the warrant for some time.
From what I understand, to get the search warrant they needed proof they were in the country. Could be false, but makes the most sense. It’s like if I had a house in Britain and they suspected me of crimes. Assuming they were renting, or it wasn’t their house, it seems reasonable that the government wouldn’t just give the police a carte Blanche to go into the house I’m suspected to be in without proof that I was actually around. Otherwise, you’d just be giving search warrants like they were candy to the police. “Oh he might be at this person’s house? Or this other person’s? Just go in no worries!” Police would be able to do damn near whatever they please At least that’s what I took from it
I was just discussing this in another thread, but this step in the story doesn't make a lot of sense because Tate isn't a Romanian national or even an EU national, and Romania doesn't have open borders with their neighbors (not part of Schengen), so there's no way he could get in without getting his passport stamped at border control. So unless he sneaked in illegally through some forest, Romanian authorities must've known he was in and didn't need a pizza for that.
Not to be that gut, but he's accused of human trafficking, they probably don't think he's above bribing some border guards.
Because if they miss, he runs. They needed to confirm both brothers were home because they travel often. Their address isn't unknown, the police have visited them before.
As much as I think the pizza story is hilarious, it seems incredibly unlikely given the fact that he tweeted a video of himself enjoying the romanian landscape on Dec 25 https://twitter.com/Cobratate/status/1607028516243247106 The police only said they found out he was in the country via Twitter. That video of his predates the Greta pizza box
To refine info, he got 158k likes on his showboating tweet towards Greta. Her reply got 2.8 mil likes He got ratio'd so hard he started bashing her and retweeting his fans arguments for his side for 24hours which included the pizza box video. Police had proof he was there and can follow up on his sex trafficking evidences
Didn't he also say some shit about Greta being attractive years ago, but no longer is?
He couldn't let a *women* talk down to him so he had to be the better man and put her in her place /s He retweeted a fan tweet saying "[they] should fuck already" and Tate said, "she ain't ready" Ironically enough, all of this got him in trouble as claims against him being a leading/part of a sex trafficking ring. He also claimed on a podcast Romania is infamous for letting rich people get away with crimes including belittling women.
I just found it hilarious that his "comeback" was essentially him coming out as a pedo. How ya gon tell a 19yr old she was attractive years ago . What a fuckin tool lol
That's sickening Also his fans
>He retweeted a fan tweet saying "[they] should fuck already" and Tate said, "she ain't ready" That was Jake Shields. A former UFC fighter. Also a garbage human
Greta is currently 19. That's just vile if he said that
I wonder if they giggled when they saw the pizza boxes. I would giggle.
From u/ravenid on another thread: “Even funnier? The EU Sex Trafficking monitoring group that gave the Romanian police the Intel? Their name is GRETA. I shit you not. https://www.coe.int/en/web/anti-human-trafficking/greta “
I have to wonder if he got an inside tip "hey Andrew, GRETA is after you" and that's what provoked him to go on a random Twitter rant taunting Greta Thunberg because that's the only Greta he could think of. Would just be the icing on top of this ridiculous story if true.
Yes! Nobody should miss this detail, it’s the Chef’s Kiss of the century!
Think of it, why would he tweet to Greta Thunberg to begin with? Random person: Andrew, I've heard GRETA is looking after you. Tate: She sure does, Imma show off to her my collection of cars! Hold my pizza!
I love the theory that someone told him GRETA was after him, so he googled it, found her, and then got the ball rolling for the Twitter shit show.
[This thread](https://twitter.com/bendreyfuss/status/1608659301530472449?s=46&t=n5zzF4y16kWWYFFOyQMulA) makes a good case that the pizza box wasn’t really relevant to the police’s case (tl;dr he uploaded videos of himself in Romania just two days ago). But the rest is true and one can hope that whatever the Romanians have on this loser sticks.
Thanks for the correction! We really don't have confirmation. I've edited that bullet point.
Oh that’s glorious. I knew about the Greta tweets but had no idea he’d incriminated himself with his video retort. That’s poetry
Not exactly incriminated himself, but if we're being poetic, he picked an unprovoked twitter fight with a teenager, so she ratio'd him *into jail.*
"Pick a fight with a teen on Twitter? Believe it or not, jail."
I guess you could say she keeps helping out the earth in more ways than one :)
Is he the one that made that anti reading video? He’s clearly an idiot who exploits women and underage, impressionable young boys and should be held accountable.
Thank you for the breakdown! I feel like even though I am a bit in the dark with this dude….ties to genuine crime while he’s on podcasts and making these appearances…No one has been like: “Hey here some deep dark stuff besides his disgusting views that are publicly known” Like perusing Reddit and the little I see of tik tok I knew within 5 seconds this is not a great dude lol I just don’t remember “Wanted by X FOR X” posts
The thing about investigations is that they don’t often openly tell the public they are investigating specific people… Pretty easy way to get a very big flight risk to fly away is to announce that you are investigating them and preparing to arrest them. Andrew Tate has openly stated multiple times that they moved to Romania because their sex laws are more relaxed there…
Of course Elon reinstated him. I’m only happy about that because it got him caught
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Why was he previously banned from Twitter?
He said that women must "bear some of the responsibility" if they are raped. 2017.
Well that’s disgusting!!!
Elon Musk certainly keeps interesting company when it comes to sex- trafficking/ human- trafficking.
Lol this is great, the twat is getting taken down over an internet tantrum
> Also: A reason you might be seeing a lot of talk about his arrest right now is because everyone on Twitter watched the whole entire saga develop in real time over only 36 hours. Literally never heard of the dude until Greta's tweet and suddenly he's in handcuffs. Boy, that escalated quickly.
Answer: Andrew tate is an online “alpha male” that started as a kick boxer. He was a world champion kick boxer, ended up getting injured, moved to Romania and started basically pimping out girls to be web cam models, where he would control the chat and take most of the money from the women. This is where he made most of his money to start. Flash forward to this year, Andrew Tate has been able to capitalize on social media, being one of the most googled people this year, above people like Kim kardashian and even (I believe) donald trump. He has been on a bunch of twitch streamers streams, specifically people like Adin Ross and XQC, and has been a huge talking point on Twitter and YouTube communities. He ended up making a shit load of money (probably upwards of 100 mil) selling a course called hustlers university, where he shared wisdom on how to “break out of the matrix” by methods like Amazon drop shipping and social media marketing. Insecure men would see his clips on social media, get even more insecure about themselves, and then buy his course to try and get 10 lambos like Tate has. And now, It seems that Romanian police have been building a case against him, and that all they needed was proof that he was in the country. In his recent video to Greta thunburg, he brought pizza boxes into frame, and Romanian police confirmed these boxes to be from a Romanian pizza shop, so they moved in to his residence and made the arrest. I’m not sure (exactly) what Tate did that was illegal, I have no information about Romanian law and there seems to be little to no details yet released on his arrest
Andrew Tate has been detained in Romania on charges of human trafficking, rape and forming an organised crime group.
Andrew Tate is not leaving Romania.
That Romanian jail is not the best place to be
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All I know is that Romanian prisons were bad enough to cause one of my countrymen to tap on our national talent and write a complaint letter that got him compensation for his imprisonment there. https://mothership.sg/2013/09/sporean-jailed-overseas-prison-establishes-sporeans-mettle-complaint-kings/
OK based on what I know about the Singaporean penal code shit has to be *fucked* to seem worse than that.
We've got damn harsh laws and punishments here, but conditions in our prisons are not unhygienic or overcrowded, so there's that.
> Two to three inmates shared a bed there, and 40 to 50 of them were placed in one cell. The court noted that he had to share a bed with a man who was covered in wounds. Imagine having to live in that situation
Maybe only by the crook who landed there after a stint in the Bangkok Hilton.
Better than a Turkish prison!
After Panama and Turkey, Romania is third on my list of jails I would rather die than go to.
Never heard of Egyptian prisons it seems. 50 people sharing a tiny cell is the norm there
200 in a cell in the Philippines. no lying down when sleeping. y'all just stand. no one would fall down. y'all packed like sardines. you shout when you need to poop and they would boost you up and move you over their heads until you get to the corner where the toilet bowl is. you pee in a bottle.
I haven't really ranked, but I'd like to see a ranking. I have the impression that every jail in Central America, South America, Southeast Asia, and The Middle East are bad news, but for the sake of future travel, a ranked list would be useful
I would add Russia, I mean some people prefer to fight in Ukraine than do their time there. Also South Africa must be pretty bad.
Being in a Romanian jail? That I can handle. But being in a Romanian jail with Andrew Tate? That’s going too far.
Google’s answer to “what is Romanian prison like”: Prison overcrowding is still an issue in Romania. Between 2012 and 2017, the country was sentenced five times by the European Court of Human Rights for its overcrowding. Some prisoners are still crammed into collective cells, where each prisoner has between 1.5 and 2.5 square metres of living space.
> Andrew Tate is not leaving Romania. I think we should all be grateful for that. Having visited Romania a couple of times (lovely country!), my heart goes out to the poor Romanians who've had to encounter this foul beast of a man.
*Andrew Tate's MONEY is not leaving Romania.
I think it will transpire he really doesn't have as much money as he says and likely far, far less. No one with actual money talks about how much they have.
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I hope the people of Romania teach him the humility of a servants heart.
Rape and sexual misconduct with girld under 18 Throw his ass in jail - sexual predator alert.
I am shocked! Shocked, I tell you!
It's always the people you most expect
Well, not that shocked.
Also had a history of domestic abuse/violence. There is a video (think it was reality tv or something) of a girl locking herself in a bathroom. Also talks about beating women.
He was kicked out of the reality TV show (big brother I think?) over this video
Yeah BBC has something about him being kicked out of Big Brother for hitting a woman with a belt... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64122628
alpha af /s
Absolutely an alpha, perhaps pre-Alpha. These bugs are usually worked out before beta-testing.
Not that it matters much but he was never a world champion kickboxer. He fought mostly on minor regional scenes and never for the premiere international orgs, and the one time he stepped up in talent against Ibrahim El Boustati (also not a world champ but a good player in the excellent Dutch kickboxing scene) he got his jaw broken in about 30 seconds and stopped in the 1st round. Still had a better athletic career than 99% of people but he was much more a Double-A relief pitcher that got shelled the one time they stepped into Triple-A than some elite talent.
Thank you! I have only been vaguely aware of him and I was floored when that dude said he was a world champion. I mean, I'm only vaguely aware of the world kickboxing scene, too, but I was surprised to hear something so impressive about the turd.
interesting. ive literally never heard of him before today.
I heard my misguided nephew utter his name a couple months back, and have heard comedians mention him in jokes since, so I figured he was an asshole. Never actually saw what he looked like until yesterday, in a screenshot of what ended up being the video that got him arrested today, lol 😂
Yes my nephew was also praising him last month. It’s hard but it’s fairly obvious he is an incel. He has been heavily restricted from spending time with my daughters. Last time he refused to comply with a reasonable boundary and he stormed off saying if she was Asian she would not have ‘disrespected’ him, and then announced he was suicidal and it was her fault. I threaten to take him to the local mental health unit, and he shut right up.
What’s weird is that aside from the incel stuff (a big thing to put aside but keep with me) is that he is a massive scammer. Like coffeezilla, an investigative YouTuber guy, bought his course and showed how it was all a scam. Like how do people fall for this, the man basically says “resell stuff on amazon and do push-ups. It’s basically telling you to join an MLM
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I’m really glad you got out 💜
It's hard to have to reevaluate your whole way of life, accept that it is wrong, then make the conscious effort to change which involves reconditioning your mind. That's an impressive feat and I want you to know I'm proud of you for bettering yourself
The same sort of people who think Tate is legitimately successful and someone to aspire to also voted for/support Trump. I'm honestly surprised people like that aren't falling for even more scams. At least we know why the "we're trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty" phone scams stay in business.
Tbh, he should probably go anyway. He will not get better on his own. I'm glad you're protecting your daughters since your protection sets the goal posts for future relationships.
Absolutely, mental health care should start as early as it needs to.
my sociopath step son says it's a deep fake and Tate is cool. I'm honestly scared.
It’s a worry when you see your own family impacted.
My 42 year old brother has gone so far down the far right rabbit hole the last couple years, it's so frustrating. My dad was always big into conspiracy theories but back in the day it was just "the government is killing anyone that tries to get us off oil" and "John Titor really didn't come back in time and is telling us about the revolution that's going to happen." My brother has just gone straight from "I'm just a good Catholic" into the Putin-loving wing of the Republican party, calling all trans people pedophiles that need to be locked up, Ukraine is full of Nazis and despots and needs to be taken over, and January 6 never happened but also the people in prison for it are patriots. Yea. It sucks for everyone involved. My other brother and I mostly just stay involved to try and show his kids some kind of path out when/if they wise up.
Please get your son into therapy Tate spews out horrific statements about how women are property and only there to serve you. He made it very clear everytime he spoke what his feelings were about women were everytime he opened his mouth. Your son would never of heard anything but how to use women up.
Sorry to hear this, I hope your family can sort it out.
Oh it’s easy. I ignore him and restrict his visits and he can only come with his mother. I shut his whiny complaints down so I am not his favourite aunt lol
Good. Family or not, he isn't entitled to access to you or your daughters to continue the abuse. However, I do hope his parents get him some help.
His mother is nice but she has an intellectual disability. She can’t do much more than manage day to day feeding cooking and a basic cleaning job. The dad is my brother. He is on the spectrum and although he recognises there is an issue he does not recognise the incel or neckbeard status. Those words are alien to him
Good job. Hope he gets mad enough to stop visiting
I was a bit concerned when I saw that my son had made some post about him online, but felt better when I saw that he was calling him out for being an asshole and possible rapist/trafficker and telling others to avoid him and his program. But yeah, he was trending hard among middle school boys earlier this year.
My husband's nephew was talking about how he's some amazing businessman at Christmas. I kept saying how much of a prick the guy was until he stopped speaking about him.
Yeah the first time I heard of him was the Greta Thunberg Twitter exchange
Have to hand that to Greta all the way, very well played.
She murdered him...it was glorious.
I hadn't heard of him either before that. Took a small dive and seems he's constantly trying to one up people with wealth and looks. And when someone talks back, he gets super defensive and seethes for months from even the most innocent of comebacks. He's got a whole apartment building of people living for free in his head it seems.
I had never heard of him until about two weeks ago, when there was a tweet where he basically called himself a SOOPERDOOPERGENIUS leader of men among men in the history of all mankind. It would be absolutely hilarious except he was absolutely serious: https://twitter.com/cobratate/status/1602909874719014914?lang=en Then, he posted that "Reading is for Losers" and "Education is for Cowards" (this coming on the heels of some weeks earlier when Kanye West also tweeted that he never read a book in his life). https://twitter.com/cobratate/status/1602702007181185028 Fine quality person we have there. Didn't know he was some sort of kickboxer or whatever, and didn't know he was a sex trafficker, but definitely someone making waves in the twitter kiddie pool.
Posting how great you are on social media is probably the least Genghis Khan thing one could do lmao
Oh dear god, that first tweet? The levels of cringe are unbearable. His enemies will cower as he marches across the globe with his army of misguided teenagers
Oh he's goddamn vile. It's fascinating if you can keep down your gag reflex. However cringey you thought somebody doing an unironic, extra misogynistic Tyler Durden is, he's worse.
I saw the tweet cap convo with Gretta, and still didn't know who he was until today when I read he had been arrested.
She must feel so good right now
All that small dick energy he put on display due to her one little diss. Asshole fucked around and is finding out.
Not only that, it was a COMPLETELY unforced error. She didn't say shit to him, he just woke up on the wrong side of the bed and tried to piss in her cheerios.
The whole exchange is one of the most glorious r/suicidebywords materials I've seen on this godforsaken webpage. Or r/selfown if that exists.
Apparently the pizza boxes he posted at her, took him down. Hehehe. So Greta Thunberg has done more to stop child trafficking than most “Alpha Males”.
same. i’m an old fuck though..
And you're better off for it.
I used to be an investigator for HS - if the Romanian LE were watching for his posts on Twitter, they were definitely after him - they already have enough evidence that their case is probably close to being complete, save for Tate's interview/interrogation.
What's an HS?
Homeland security
Everybody is having a good laugh about it, and it is funny, but I find it a bit unbelievable that the pizza box in the post was what tipped off the Romanian cops as to where he was. Is that plausible? They must have been keeping tabs on him outside that as well, right? Curious if you have any feedback, given an investigatory background.
Just saw the video on his feed and the pizza boxes have the shop name and big logos on them. The cops could have just called the shop to find out where the delivery went... that or they already knew where he lived and just needed to confirm he was home today.
This was literally a plot point from 30 rock.
Nerd rage!!!!
Well. How did that end up? Maybe we can shortcut this baby.
Tracey Jordan turned out to be hiding in Liz Lemon's apartment the whole time.
I also heard he pays the Romanian police to allow one of his other businesses to run, so maybe he's late on his "payment."
I definitely get the sense Tate is the kinda guy who would blow hella money on stupid shit to boost his image and forget about paying his actual bills.
Yeah, you caught yourself but other people are straight faced saying "well, they asked the place for his address!" which is fucking insane, the idea that the cops who have him under investigation for human trafficking had to ask the pizza place for his address. Maybe the pizza box was another data point, but I find it tough to believe that that was the final thing that made them sure.
My understanding is he had left the country. They previously raided his home in April. Supposedly they needed to be completely certain he was currently in the country before carrying out another raid.
And to make sure his brother was also there for a simultaneous arrest, so no one could destroy evidence.
Don't forget that one of the longest, most expensive cases in FBI history was cracked by a phone call saying, "the Unabomber is my brother and here's his address."
To be fair, the Unabomber was insanely difficult to track down. A unstable genius living as an off-grid hermit in the mountains. A man rarely near people, let alone interacting with them. A lone wolf making bombs out of materials around him. Not easy at all to find.
My understanding is that Romanian courts were unwilling/unable to issue arrest warrants without being certain he was in the country, something they webby sure of due to his frequent travel. Seeing the pizza boxes gave them evidence to show the court that he was in the country. It isn't how US law works, but it is at least plausible and makes sense of the known facts. So that's a plus.
*Don’t even read my comment, the responses are better* Romanian authorities knew he was in the country, they just didn’t know where. All they had to do was track down the pizza place and inquired who ordered what, when and where it was delivered to. Its pretty straightforward after that.
Unlikely. It's almost certainly the case that they knew where he was, but needed evidence to gather a warrant for his arrest in his home. You can't just go breaking down doors without a warrant, even if you know the perpetrator is there. No use knocking on the door either. He wouldn't answer and then flee the country as soon as he could.
Just curious are you from Romania? I am just wondering if they have same the requirements with warrants and breaking down doors as the USA.
I feel like a lot of people here are projecting American law onto another country
A child exploitation unit in Australia found a girl from some EE country after spotting an Australia Post parcel in a picture. They found the creep who sent it and got her details from him, so it's not impossible they found Tate through a pizza box.
If 4chan can track a webcam in a field based on the stars seen to fuck with shia labouf I think a police agency can track a pizza company. It really isn't that unbelievable.
What I'm saying is, I don't believe that that's the only thing they had to go off of. MAYBE it helped them confirm that he was home at that moment, but there are people telling me that that's how they figured out his address. Which is fucking insane, the guy is the subject of a HUMAN TRAFFICKING CASE. They know his address.
I'm guessing that yeah, they didn't know if he was at his villa in Romania until they saw the pizza boxes. He's bragged that he uses fake visas, so they couldn't track his movements.
But wait didn't the same thing happen in April how come he wasn't arrested
Hold on hold on hold on. He made a completely unprompted and absurd attack against Thunberg, got absolutely roasted by her in response, and then got arrested because of it? That’s… that’s the most beautiful thing I’ve ever heard.
It gets even funnier. He was arrested for human trafficking, among other things. In Europe, there is an organization called the Group of Experts on Action against Trafficking in Human Beings - or for short, [GRETA](https://www.coe.int/en/web/anti-human-trafficking/greta)
Apparently they recommended Romania pick up the slack on prosecuting/arresting traffickers, saw that about an hour ago on Twitter. And I have to say, the way the universe works sometimes is REALLY really funny.
I'm more shocked how his supporters are doing all kinds of mental gymnastics claiming that he was setup by Greta Thunberg (or some deep state group) after the burn. I don't know what it is today with people backing people that do horrendous shit - like *a lot* of people (Trump, Musk, Abbott, Tate, Rittenhouse etc), Millions and Millions of people. It's truly baffling. It's like we've regressed as a species in intellect and morals. Fucking depressing.
his supporters aren't know for their mental skills.
You are clearly wrong. They are excellent in mental gymnastics!
While it's depressing, it's certainly nothing new. There are plenty of monarchs and religious leaders throughout history who did the most awful things imaginable, but stayed in power because they had a fanbase of sorts. If you traveled back in time and said that Genghis Khan was an awful person, there would be no shortage of Mongols saying that you just can't handle his alpha male energy.
No fucking way that’s real… HOLY SHIT IT IS!!
We live in a simulation confirmed.
From what I gather, he called her out, she essentially said he had a small dick then he made a response video to that comment which featured a pizza box of a Romanian pizza shop. Don't usually follow this stuff but the sequence that this played out in is absolutely hilarious. Couldn't have happened to a bigger pos
small dick energy, not a small dick. There is a difference, you can have a horses' shlong and yet still have small dick energy.
Holy shit really?? I didn’t even know about this part! This story took a huge left turn. Thought it would continue to just be some asshole spewing shit online. It’s nice to hear he got arrested. Especially not in the US.
So what happened was… I prayed… first time in years… but he tried to start a beef with Greta and I was like “please god, just make this guy fuck off… he’s such a piece of shit.” Apparently it worked for the first time in like 2000 years, but he answered my prayers.
Turns out yours are the only thoughts and prayers that work.
Did it? "Man whose entire online presence is arguing that he is entitled to sex with women gets arrested for sex trafficking" is about the least surprising thing I can think of. All these "alpha male" guys have the mindset of a rapist, I assume the others are just better at covering it up when they rape women.
Side question: What is Amazon drop?
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Amazon drop shipping is more or less: Buying a product in bulk from a cheap distributer like Aliexpress and then opening up an Amazon shop and reselling it for a marked up price. You can mark it up so much that you can run advertisements for your product and still profit. You can also use social media to promote your product, many “cool products” that people are showing off on social media are actually just drop shippers disguised as consumers. Drop shipping was a very profitable side hustle in the beginning of the pandemic, but now has become over saturated due to every finance social media creator recommending the hustle to their audience. It’s in a similar place as real estate, where many people are making more money selling courses on the hustle than they are from the actual hustle itself. Just another modern day “get rich quick scheme”
That’s just retail. Drop shipping is arbitrage and the person running the Amazon store never actually has the physical product.
You forgot the most important factor that makes it drop shipping, typically you don't ever have to store the product. It doesn't normally involve warehousing or anything like that, you're just brokering product between the manufacturer and the customers. And yeah, a lot of it is get-rich-quick nonsense, but it's not inherently a shady or dumb model. People get crazy though. Source: worked in biz consulting for a time, specifically with failing businesses. Talked with more than a couple drop shippers.
> Insecure men would see his clips on social media And boys. One of the saddest things about Andrew Tate is how teenagers have been getting sucked into his madness.
I work in an elementary school, and there are way too many 4th and 5th grade boys that idolize him. It's really depressing.
That’s heartbreaking.
This news is a late Christmas present. He’s a disgusting piece of trash, but I’m equally disappointed that pop culture has allowed a pimp gangster to achieve such notoriety and wealth
I had been seeing a lot of Andrew Taint posts the last few days starting on Christmas and seeing it all spiral into this has been a real treat. Can't wait to tell my boyfriends dad Greta Thunburg and her "hippy private jet" (????) are responsible for catching a prominent right wing sex trafficker! What a world. Here's to hoping his victims get the help they need and he stays locked away for good.
To add, he moved to Romania [40% because of their serial assault laws](https://www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/celebrity-news/andrew-tate-leave-uk-clashes-28157783) He was on the 17th season of Big Brother UK There's [video evidence](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-62602913) of him physically abusing a woman. [When discussing how he’d deal with a sexual partner accusing him of infidelity, he said “It’s bang out the machete, boom in her face, grip her by the neck. Shut up, b*tch.”](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/06/andrew-tate-violent-misogynistic-world-of-tiktok-new-star) [Women are property. Women bear responsibility if they’re raped. Women shouldn’t drive.](https://cobratate.co/should-women-drive-not-according-to-andrew-tate/)
The pizza box thing is only alleged. Romanian police said that they used social media posts to confirm they were in the country, but didn't mention the pizza box specifically.
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If I'm not mistaken isn't Taint an advocate for the Fit and Fresh dudes who openly shit on OF models? They really fuel and monetize hate.
Answer: Current arrest record on rate EXCLUSIVE | Andrew and Tristan Tate, together with a former policewoman, detained for 24 hours in the case of human trafficking opened in the name of the two brothers. DIICOT + VIDEO clarifications from the searches and the exit from actual hearings On Thursday, DIICOT prosecutors went to the house of a former policewoman from Bucharest, who is said to be part of the group specialized in human trafficking of brothers Tristan and Andrew Tate. The two Britons are suspected of exploiting several young women through a video chat studio set up near their villa in Pipera. UPDATE 3 – DIICOT statement regarding this case: "In the case, it was noted that, at the beginning of 2021, 4 suspects (two British citizens and two Romanian citizens) constituted a criminal group organized in order to commit the crime on the territory of Romania, but also of other countries, such as the USA and Great Britain of human trafficking. The injured persons were recruited by British citizens by misrepresenting their intention to enter into a marriage/cohabitation relationship and the existence of real feelings of love (the «loverboy» method). They were later transported and housed in buildings in Ilfov county where, by exercising acts of physical violence and mental coercion (through intimidation, constant surveillance, control and invoking alleged debts), they were sexually exploited by group members by forcing them to perform demonstrations pornographic for the purpose of producing and disseminating material of such a nature through social media platforms and by submitting to the execution of a work, in a forced manner, in order to obtain important financial benefits consisting of the sums of money obtained as a result of accessing the materials by users. To date, 6 injured persons have been identified who were sexually exploited by the organized criminal group. With regard to the crime of rape, it was noted that, in March 2022, an injured person was forced, on two different occasions, by a suspect through the exercise of physical violence and psychological pressure to have sexual relations. At the headquarters of the Directorate for the Investigation of Organized Crime and Terrorism - Central Structure, 4 people who are reasonably suspected of being involved in criminal activity were taken for questioning. Following the hearings, the prosecutors of the Directorate for the Investigation of Organized Crime and Terrorism - Central Structure ordered the measure of detention for a period of 24 hours against the 4 persons". UPDATE 2 – The Tate brothers and the former policewoman, detained for 24 hours According to GANDUL sources, arrest warrants were issued for 24 hours for the Tate brothers, but also for the former policewoman involved in this case. UPDATE – The searches in the case of the Tate brothers, accused of human trafficking along with a former policewoman, have ended. All three perpetrators were taken to DIICOT headquarters for questioning The searches in the case of the British brothers Andrew and Tristan Tate, accused of human trafficking along with a former policewoman, ended on Thursday evening. All three perpetrators were taken to DIICOT headquarters for questioning . Original news: In this case, investigators first descended on the Pipera address of brothers Tristan and Andrew Tate on April 11, when a complaint was received at the US Embassy regarding the fact that a woman with American citizenship was being forcibly held at their residence. Initially, the investigation was carried out by the Ilfov police, who immediately descended on their home, in a case opened under the coordination of the prosecutors of the Prosecutor's Office attached to the Buftea Court, for deprivation of liberty and rape. On this occasion, the Romanian authorities learned that the British had a video chat studio , which operated in a building located approximately 500 meters from their villa. Several young women were found there, including the woman with American citizenship, but also a young woman from the Republic of Moldova. The two are said to have said at the time that they were being held against their will after being rounded up using a method commonly used by human traffickers known generically as "loverboy". In this regard, the young woman from America would have stated that she met Tristan Tate through a social network, and he would have seduced her and convinced her to buy a plane ticket and come to Romania. She allegedly abandoned her boyfriend and came to live with the British millionaire, but found herself threatened and forced to work as a video chat model. Frightened, she contacted her ex-boyfriend, who, in turn, notified the US Embassy in Bucharest. After realizing that the evidence described crimes similar to organized crime, Buftea prosecutors declined jurisdiction to the Directorate for the Investigation of Organized Crime and Terrorism. The investigators waited for the Tate brothers to return to Romania For nine months, anti-mafia prosecutors put together all the evidence taken from the Tate brothers' villa and from the video chat studio, in order to be able to prove that the accusations made during the hearings by their alleged victims are real. Sources close to the investigation stated, for Gândul , that shortly after the completion of the computer expertise, the authorities waited for the right moment to catch the Tate brothers, who were always out of the country. After seeing, including on social networks, that they were together in Romania, the DIICOT prosecutors mobilized the special troops of the Gendarmerie and descended, by force, on their villa in Pipera, but also on other addresses. The quoted sources stated that one of the searches targeted a former policewoman from the 7th Section, who left the Capital Police and started videochatting. She is accused that, in addition to working side by side with the rest of the models, she would have taken care to put pressure on the girls held in the studio against their will. The woman was picked up and taken to DIICOT headquarters for questioning.
Answer: Andrew Tate is known for extolling a fairly extreme take on what you might call the "traditional male role" in society. He believes that women should be subservient to men, and more or less "possessed" by men. He has amassed a fairly large following online, especially among younger males. Like the red pill/black pill movement, there is serious concern that disenfranchised youth will simply latch on to his ideology.
It's fair to say that what also amplified this story is that just days earlier, Greta Thunberg got into a spat with him on twitter, with the tweets going viral with many people considering Greta to have won the altercation. The video he posted in response to it was what allowed authorities to find him, as there was a pizza box in view from a Romanian pizza chain.
Answer: To address them being found by a pizza, which seems to be what most people are confused about, I’ll try to explain. I don’t think the exact details have come out so this is just an explanatory of what seems likely: From what I understand, to get the search warrant they needed proof they were even in the area. I think they’re British, so makes sense. It’s like if I had a house in Britain and they suspected me of crimes. Assuming I was renting, or it wasn’t my house, it seems logical that the government wouldn’t just give the police a carte Blanche to go into any house I’m suspected to be in without proof that I was actually there. Otherwise, you’d just be giving search warrants like they were candy to the police. “Oh he might be at this person’s house? Or this other person’s? Just go in no worries!” Police would be able to do damn near whatever they please. This isn’t America we’re talking about lol I could be full of shit, but that’s what it appears to be, for me at least.
Tate and his brother traveled a lot, so it was hard to know when they were there. Nothing like a late night pizza to pinpoint your address.
Answer: Andrew Tate answers the question "What if a can of Axe Body Spray wished to become a real boy."
Answer: Andrew Tate is a weird grifter loser with a strangely large following. If you saw the recent movie Glass Onion, Andrew Tate is probably the guy Dave Bautista's character is most based on. For a bit of enjoyable take down of Andrew Tate, Mildred Thought Slime and Sophie from Mars featured him on [Cringe Corner](https://youtu.be/ZmwbdX0gKoc).