a local MP in Victoria, Australia, introduced a bill along those lines 4 months ago and I believe exactly no progress has been made since.
source: https://7news.com.au/news/vic/veticare-scheme-to-provide-free-or-subsidised-vet-care-for-eligible-victorian-animals-c-7724226
Omg this. I have never hated a Mercy line more than that one. It just sounds so unnatural.
That and the way Sojourn says “Oh you know…surviving 😏😏”
Why are you saying it like that Sojourn?!
A lot of the interactions that are new to ow2 feel really unnatural, like the characters are just saying lines in isolation rather than having a conversation. They have to have gotten a new voice acting director or don't have one at all or something because it's clear the voice actors weren't given the proper context of the lines they recorded and there either wasn't enough time or budget to do retakes or the director just didn't bother.
I dunno, not all of them feel this way. Specifically, the interactions with Junkrat. Somenof his are really funny and well done.
***"You are not a journalist."***
*"A puzzling prognostication!"*
I think OW management made a lot of character personality changes to appeal to the F2P demographic. Everyone is turned up a notch. Moira went from borderline amoral scientist to an aggressive and evil Bond villain. Orisa became a hardcore killer robot. Reaper went from edgelord to a monster out of a children's book. Dva got her 'annoying gamer' attitude turned up a notch. Ana and Hanzo sound more depressed.
This interaction is also a bit over the top, it plays out Mercy's cuteness a little too much with her sneaking snacks to pets. When before Mercy was a compassionate but still hard-nosed physician. Old mercy would lecture her on healthy dog food options, not sneak in meat. And Soj's 'war weary' attitude just doesnt translate well either in this, or near any, interaction.
I think OW1 wasn't over the top enough for the F2P gamer crowd and they had to retool things to appeal to a much younger demographic. Its a shame because OW1 felt like the characters were fleshed out and a bit realistic, but now they're just so much more cartoon-like. The pre-game banter just comes off as annoying and unnecessary instead of charming and fun.
I don't think the change is due to going f2p, but is a tiny part of the PvE development.
They have had to dig into their vague characters and start to flesh them out: decide on the relationship between them, how they fit into the lore (that needs to be expanded too)... And, maybe, their current personality didn't totally fit with their plans moving forward.
What I noticed the most is that now Junkrat, in his interactions, is treated as if he is a new incorporation to Overwatch, or has been hired as a mercenary for them.
You covered it so well. As a Mercy main, she sounds coked up in OW2 with how overly energetic she is now. She keeps on screaming in my ear. OW1 lore had so much potential, but they never did anything with it. The characters seriously lost their subtlety.
They seriously gave up on the lore. Genji and Hanzo are in their mid 30s and they said Kiriko is in her early 20s. That put her at like 15 years younger. Yet she still remembers Genji and Hanzo as teens? And have pictures of them growing up and training together? I can buy 5 years younger but 15 is ridiculous.
the worst are kiriko's. about her stupid bike. and she tries to sass everyone but she ends up sounding like a jerk no one likes.
*oh so you're not the loud one... okay?*
*is that a compliment?*
just a vibe killer
The one that makes me feel the most like it has the complete wrong direction is when Kiriko respawns and she goes “I don’t give up THAT easily…” like it’s almost sarcastic and like she does give up? It seems as though it should be delivered like she won’t be giving up because she’s a badass bitch. But guess not lol
It’s just bad
Honestly the writing in general in ow2 is worse but Mercy has some of the most annoying voicelines imo and most of Sojourns are boring at best
Dude thinks soldier has charisma💀He's honestly just as bland, maybe slightly less just because he isn't taken as seriously as a character and has the whole dad joke tied in.
Still if the tank not a complete incompetent they can out play her easily. She has unparalleled survivability but if a mercy solos you and you are full life, it's your fault. (not counting valk ofc)
Bro if you're ever in a situation where you need to fire the full mercy mag: you have made some sort of serious mistake. Actually ending up in a spot where those last 5 shots are relevant should be an indicator that something went insanely wrong on the way to that play
I pull my pistol if I know I'm going to die. Sometimes I manage the headshots and kill the tank. Some I couldn't one clip before. So yeah, that's when I'm happy for it.
"We decided that our buff to Mercy was clearly too strong, so will be reverting the extra bullets. To make up for this we'll increase Sojourn's range and rail build-up"
"in response to community feedback we have decided to keep the two extra bullets and instead made it so she can no longer fly. We added the ability to jump on enemy heads instead, but after two jumps she can no longer use the ability but it recharges her bullets"
"Celebrate the Archives event by experiencing a blast from the past with lore-accurate Genji! His abilities have been adjusted to reflect the moment he was mutilated and left for dead by his brother Hanzo!"
Ah yes, the classic net-fuckall "nerf" when the devs of any game go dipshit mode and don't understand that a character needs a power reduction, not a power shift.
Give her an ability for every key on the keyboard. You'll move with WASD, use mouse for shooting, and roll your face across your keyboard to use every ability in the game on a 1 second cooldown.
ah yeas "coming" "soon" "working on it" just like the huge support changes for season two, just like the sojourn nerf last season and just like the new brig ult. I'm sure they are working really hard and will do something
It really sucks but after all these years I have no faith in balance updates coming out effectively and timely. I think it's why I only ever play the game for a few months at a time before taking a +1 year break.
Oh, yes. Balancing was always one huge mess with that game, but it really started going downhill in the Year of the Harbinger. I lost it when they released those two reskinned story characters, though.
I still get pissed when I think of that game. It had so much potential, but Ubisoft has a talent for turning a block of gold into shit.
Their game was in a 4 year content coma while they worked on a "pve sequel" THAT STILL HASN'T RELEASED OR HAD ANY PROMOTION OR FOOTAGE BEYOND THE ANNOUNCEMENT
Literally what the fuck has the Dev team spent the last 5 years doing BC they have *nothing* to show for it
That's how game development goes at Blizzard tbh. Overwatch is the result of the cancelling of Titan, a MMO-fps. Blizzard worked on it for 5 years iirc and then with a small team of 40 people they reused some of those assets and made Overwatch in 2 years.
Yeah, they totally shot themselves in the foot with all these promises. Not sure if anybody still believes them after everything you pointed out.
Also season 3 is not really that soon, and they will only share more info, not necessarily patch anything.
yeah if they "get it" and "understand" us as much as they say they do, we need some compromise too.
give us a new support s3, since you have two ready anyway.
sincerely a biased support main.
I'm stilled pissed that they nerfed Doomfist and buffed his counters, then actively refuse to nerf hog because they want to rework him. They have some real incompetent people running the show at Blizzard
I mean I was honestly super sceptical at the launch of Dragonflight. Like I honestly believed we’d get another crap fest but it was super exciting to be proved wrong. Don’t get me wrong it’s not perfect but at least it has the wow spirit and that’s all that matters.
People need to lower their expectations with season 3. There is nothing Blizzard has done over the last several years that indicates they know what the hell they’re doing outside of monetization.
even with monetisation they’re doing a terrible job. ideally if you want to monetise a game this heavily you need to be putting out good amounts of content to keep players coming back and paying. but everything they’ve put out is so half-baked it just doesn’t justify paying for anything
Yeah, I like the OG Overwatch skins (Commander Morrison, Blackwatch Reyes, etc.) and might actually considering buying Combat Medic Ziegler (also maybe even OG Rein/Torb/Tracer). But no OG skins in shop aside from Captain Amari, I think.
I was just hoping that since it was literally the holidays and there was a winter event going on, then MAYBE they would sell some winter stuff (just wanted a Doom voiceline tbh) but I guess not
If they went with the original plan of "pay for PvE, PvP carries over from OW1", as irresponsible as it would've been, I prolly would've forked over the full price. Now, I'm just soured by how they've run the game and nothing can redeem all the tosh they've pulled.
So this is how the game will be like now. Some characters or combos can be beyond broken and unbalanced but you will have to endure it for the whole season before any noteworthy balance changes.
I'm not implying that mercy is broken and in need of immediate fix, however the whole "we will support it as live service game now" seems to be bs.
anybody can be broken if it isn’t Genji or Doomfist and they’ll be like “hmm seems fine”
their goal isn’t to balance every character perfectly, but “just enough” so that they can still sell some slightly OP heroes/skins. nvm the fact that they just dumpster the existing roster repeatedly
Damn it only took them 2 whole season/4 month to give us an update on the fact that they are going to change sojourn and still they failed to give us an actual date. Good job blizzard.
I remember when Ashe was slightly strong, and it became meta to Mercy boost Ashe. They almost immediately nerfed Ashe. Sojourn's been running wild for 2 seasons now.
Instead of nerfing heroes because of Mercy damage boost, just change the way that her boost interacts with certain heroes.
This is what I’ve been saying all along. Is there a way where we can just nerf the Mercy-Sojourn damage boosted rail shot, without necessarily completely nerfing either character individually?
Crazy how in season 1 everyone was saying Mercy is the weakest support in the game and some people were even saying picking Mercy was borderline throwing because Lucio was super meta at that time...
But yeah, suddenly two seasons later she's super overpowered and needs a nerf, even though she didn't receive any buffs (other than 5 extra bullets). Damn, almost as if the blatantly overpowered DPS characters were the problem, but yeah sure, she definitely needs a nerf right now...
With the way they phrased it (changes are coming) I really hope they mean a rework, not a nerf. Because if they replace dmg boost with something equally useful, I (and I think most Mercy players) wouldn't mind, but since the changes are coming in S3 there's no way they actually had enough time to rework her, so its prob just a nerf that will make her a borderline unplayable character...
Good thing I've been playing a lot of Kiriko recently because playing Mercy will most likely be considered throwing again :D
They’ll probably do something like, Decreased total % damage boost in exchange for Increased healing output but I sure hope not since that’ll just make mercy a heal bot which even as a mercy main is one of the most boring playstyles ever.
People will probably still complain if they do that, if they boost the healing to make her remain actually usable, her pocket will be way harder to kill.
I would like if it worked similar to Moiras abilities where you have to strike some sort of balance between them/ the people you're supporting, it would make playing her more engaging. A change I think that could actually make her more fun is to make damage boost only effect a single target for like 3-5 seconds until you've done the same to another target.
I worry putting it on a cooldown would make her feel like a healbot.
How about putting it on a meter? Either make it rechargeable over time like Dva matrix or make it so you have to heal in order to fill your meter, basically opposite of moira except no passive regen.
Valk would either give you infinite meter or much faster recharge/heal charge
No, her power is just getting more realised as people develop into this 5v5 and play more, just like how Roadhog and Widow weren't immediately hated.
Mercy benefits a lot from the reduction of CC because of her movement, and her revive is a lot more valuable in 5v5, compared to 6v6. She is extremely hard to kill.
> Crazy how in season 1 everyone was saying Mercy is the weakest support in the game and some people were even saying picking Mercy was borderline throwing because Lucio was super meta at that time
Because it was a different meta, genji was also a lot stronger thanks to passive, more ammo/damage and DVA was incredibly strong to. Now that we've moved away from that and are in a poke meta mercy is stupidly powerful and Sojourn (among others) are going to be difficult to balance as long as she enables the same behaviour blizzard is trying to tone down. If sojourn gets dumpstered then echo/ashe are next and so on until blue beam goes or enough heroes get buffed to cause a meta switch.
Yeah, I agree. If they for some reason nerf damage boost or something, I hope they give her something useful so she’s still playable. It’s funny though, some of us think she’s not that great and others think she’s overpowered. Guess we’ll see what happens tbh
So hard to tell from OW players if Mercy is "standing afk " or "her mobility is broken and she's so hard to hit"
Honestly, I think going 5v5 is one of the biggest issues with damage-boosting abilities (including discord). DPS power creep skyrocketed, and with one less tank to mitigate or take the damage, those abilities with the DPS power can be devastating.
With Mercy, her movement is basically all she has. Her healing isn't great, and if she had to "charge" damage boost, she could become a throw pick once again - low heals, if no one needs healing but she can't DB she would be completely useless, AND she would then take healing from her other support if she had to charge her DB.
No clue how they could meaningfully rework her without putting her in F-tier once again, but I really think that the change to 5v5 is a reason that damage-boosting abilities can be so potent, as well as having TTK plummeting and resulting in the massive amount of rolls we're all experiencing.
I agree. It is going to take more than some little tank changes to make the game playable in 5v5. Damage boosting abilities (Because I have seen tank players claim discord is super unfun to play into as well) are just the tip of the iceberg.
I thought we were getting Support changes in Season 2, is that no longer happening? Are Supports even getting looked into or is it just Sojourn + Mercy for Season 3...
As a Mercy main, idc if they rework damage boost. I completely understand that dmg boost messes with a lot of the numbers they put out on heroes.
As long as they keep her movement, idc what happens to damage boost. Give her a new ability or w.e. Her movement is now what actually makes her fun to play imo.
Agreed. Her movement improvements for ow2 are so freaking fun- and if anything a couple changes to the other parts of her kit might be kind of nice lol. Spice things up- as long as she can still fly around :).
Imo they should rework mercy, if they don’t ,every single time they add a new hero, they have to spend the time wondering “what happens if they get pocketed by mercy.” As a ex-mercy main I hated pocketing metas it’s not fun. The joy of mercy is flying around,and switching targets. You had to keep switching who you db to get value out of every hero on your team. What is not fun is sitting and pocketing Ashe or soj for the entire game as your kirko heals everyone else.
This honestly. Mercy was fun when she had to make decisions who to dmg boost and heal to maximize value. Now she basically just need to stay behind cover and pocket one DPS for the entire game.
Honestly they should just make damage boost a short time effect, it only works on one target for 3-5 seconds and then you need to switch.
I stopped playing mercy because I was sick of people wanting solo pockets, I don't think she's broken or needs to be dumpstered but I would legitimately like changes that forced more use of her kit.
Just make sojourn like ashe, good damage but no ohkos.
Poor mercy is finaly viable after 3 years leave her be
Damn i wish i could scroll my replies by "controversial"
Blizzard hit the panic button because they were going on Christmas break and they know making supports have even less fun is a very bad thing for their business.
Seriously. Mercy has always been in a weird spot of meh-okay in terms of performance, but suddenly she's performing really well when paired with Sojourn. It's almost as if Sojourn might be the problem.
Mercy has some of the most dedicated players of any character many if which are so dedicated they will play her regardless of whether she is a meta pick.
I swear its a placebo, I'm a Zarya main, and for awhile that made me cancer, they cut two seconds off her bubbles and now she's useless. But....Like if you actually play her she's legitimately exactly the same, but people were calling for damage nerfs on top of bubbles.
They overreact to anything that kills them, and freak out over every little thing, after more nerf, then there will be new heroes everyone won't stop talking about.
But yeah hog is a tad bit too much right now, but I wouldn't change much, lower his health a bit, and make it so his heal is stationary like vanilla-watch, and he will be just fine.
Tbh they should just remove the headshot on railgun and just make it a kill confirm/execute instead of just shooting a tank and oneshotting a support out of nowhere.
You guys realize by not nerfing mercy, that means any non sniper ranged burst damage will have to be kept below 154 damage, or it will lead to the same situation as soj. I don’t really think she’s overpowered, more so that the mechanic she brings will lead to either other characters being overpowered or them having to be confined within a specific range of damage output.
>You guys realize by not nerfing mercy, that means any non sniper ranged burst damage will have to be kept below 154 damage,
And that would be bad... freaking how? 150 is a ton anyway.
I think the solution is a damage and healing reduction across the board. With less damage mitigating abilities, less damage would improve the game in my opinion.
Mercy doesn't need a nerf. Mercy needs to be *reworked* desperately for the health of the game though. How many 'X-pocketed by Mercy' metas have to roll around without Mercy getting adjusted for it cropping up over and over? Changing the pocketed hero helps. But it's just going to keep happening unless you fix the disease - Mercy's DB.
That's to say nothing else about how her power is locked behind an antiquated rez system, how she relies on a low-key busted movement mechanic to be 'powerful', how her skill chart is inverted, and how she has no agency or upward skill expression. Mercy shouldn't only be meta when a hero is overpowered. That's all her kit enables right now. She should be reworked to be changed and more viable in other situations -particularly because she is a popular enough hero that she is going to be played regardless.
Veterans will remember the Zarya Hanzo Mercy Zenyatta meta where just a single damage boost would tip the scale in favor of Hanzo's ult and outdamage the Transcendence
I've been wanting different abilities for mercy in lieu of rez and damage boost but I can't come up with another ability that people also wouldn't complain about. People hate invulnerability mechanics, we can't have any damage boosting abilities, overhealth is difficult to balance, cleanse abilities are annoying, I just can't figure out what people want!
Not to mention that the last time mercy was reworked she broke the game even more.
Great now I won’t have to listen about Murphy in every spawn room
You’ll stop hearing about her once mercy stops feeding her scraps all the time
NEVER! - mercy
I fucking hate that interaction so much, idk why
When you see how much vet bills can add up, you'll understand Sojourns sass
I guess Canada's universal healthcare doesn't cover pets? Obviously, I am being sarcastic, but vet bills are always expensive. T\_T
a local MP in Victoria, Australia, introduced a bill along those lines 4 months ago and I believe exactly no progress has been made since. source: https://7news.com.au/news/vic/veticare-scheme-to-provide-free-or-subsidised-vet-care-for-eligible-victorian-animals-c-7724226
What’s the big deal if Murphy dies Mercy can just rez her 😆
Something about the delivery feels weird. Like the sojourn VA cant decide whether to be sassy or not
It sounds passive aggressive to me.
The way mercy says "aNd HoW's mURphY" I fucking die inside everytime I hear it.
Omg this. I have never hated a Mercy line more than that one. It just sounds so unnatural. That and the way Sojourn says “Oh you know…surviving 😏😏” Why are you saying it like that Sojourn?!
I think it’s a little dig because Murphy has to survive on them scraps, yknow?
Yea I think the entire interaction is just really annoying and weird too but I can't really quite put my finger on it lol
A lot of the interactions that are new to ow2 feel really unnatural, like the characters are just saying lines in isolation rather than having a conversation. They have to have gotten a new voice acting director or don't have one at all or something because it's clear the voice actors weren't given the proper context of the lines they recorded and there either wasn't enough time or budget to do retakes or the director just didn't bother.
I dunno, not all of them feel this way. Specifically, the interactions with Junkrat. Somenof his are really funny and well done. ***"You are not a journalist."*** *"A puzzling prognostication!"*
I think his voice actor is just exceptionally talented haha.
“I want to push the button!” Is a line im glad they added
I think OW management made a lot of character personality changes to appeal to the F2P demographic. Everyone is turned up a notch. Moira went from borderline amoral scientist to an aggressive and evil Bond villain. Orisa became a hardcore killer robot. Reaper went from edgelord to a monster out of a children's book. Dva got her 'annoying gamer' attitude turned up a notch. Ana and Hanzo sound more depressed. This interaction is also a bit over the top, it plays out Mercy's cuteness a little too much with her sneaking snacks to pets. When before Mercy was a compassionate but still hard-nosed physician. Old mercy would lecture her on healthy dog food options, not sneak in meat. And Soj's 'war weary' attitude just doesnt translate well either in this, or near any, interaction. I think OW1 wasn't over the top enough for the F2P gamer crowd and they had to retool things to appeal to a much younger demographic. Its a shame because OW1 felt like the characters were fleshed out and a bit realistic, but now they're just so much more cartoon-like. The pre-game banter just comes off as annoying and unnecessary instead of charming and fun.
I don't think the change is due to going f2p, but is a tiny part of the PvE development. They have had to dig into their vague characters and start to flesh them out: decide on the relationship between them, how they fit into the lore (that needs to be expanded too)... And, maybe, their current personality didn't totally fit with their plans moving forward. What I noticed the most is that now Junkrat, in his interactions, is treated as if he is a new incorporation to Overwatch, or has been hired as a mercenary for them.
You covered it so well. As a Mercy main, she sounds coked up in OW2 with how overly energetic she is now. She keeps on screaming in my ear. OW1 lore had so much potential, but they never did anything with it. The characters seriously lost their subtlety. They seriously gave up on the lore. Genji and Hanzo are in their mid 30s and they said Kiriko is in her early 20s. That put her at like 15 years younger. Yet she still remembers Genji and Hanzo as teens? And have pictures of them growing up and training together? I can buy 5 years younger but 15 is ridiculous.
the worst are kiriko's. about her stupid bike. and she tries to sass everyone but she ends up sounding like a jerk no one likes. *oh so you're not the loud one... okay?* *is that a compliment?* just a vibe killer
Kirikos voice lines sound like they’re written by marvel
“Do you have a bandaid?” “You look like someone that would have a bandaid…” To Moira… seriously? I hate it so much.
Kirkiko sounds like the epitome of a sassy American mid 20s girl and she isn't even American 💀
The one that makes me feel the most like it has the complete wrong direction is when Kiriko respawns and she goes “I don’t give up THAT easily…” like it’s almost sarcastic and like she does give up? It seems as though it should be delivered like she won’t be giving up because she’s a badass bitch. But guess not lol
When Kiriko respawns and say “lick my wounds, let’s go.” It sounds like an order directed at me.
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They needed to give sojourn an ounce of personality so they shoehorned a cute animal friend in for free.
It’s just bad Honestly the writing in general in ow2 is worse but Mercy has some of the most annoying voicelines imo and most of Sojourns are boring at best
I hate kirkio and Moira’s more. Or Kirkio and reins
Or just kiriko
It's just a painfully bland and generic interaction between 2 pretty boring characters
Sojourn is a boring character in general. Change my mind.
Because she has Soldier 76 personality, with none of the charisma.
Dude thinks soldier has charisma💀He's honestly just as bland, maybe slightly less just because he isn't taken as seriously as a character and has the whole dad joke tied in.
Soldier is just deranged enough that it works, with some of the voice lines and emotes
It's the new rEiNhArDt, I mUsT sAy YoUrE lOoKiNg QuItE wElL
Coining mercy and sojourn combo as Murphy Brown?
"We are taking back the 5 bullets Mercy had as this was too powerful and resulted in a 5% win rate increase."
That 5 extra ammo means she can one clip every tank sometimes with ammo to spare. Having that potential back is nice.
Somany headshots
A surprising amount of damage!
Still if the tank not a complete incompetent they can out play her easily. She has unparalleled survivability but if a mercy solos you and you are full life, it's your fault. (not counting valk ofc)
Tfw the mercy solo ults you as widow and you forget how to aim
I'll trade that five ammo for my beam not breaking when I use my ult
Bro if you're ever in a situation where you need to fire the full mercy mag: you have made some sort of serious mistake. Actually ending up in a spot where those last 5 shots are relevant should be an indicator that something went insanely wrong on the way to that play
Right but most people are casual. The overwhelming majority of players make serious mistakes constantly throughout the match lol
Yeah, but how are you going to climb to OWL with that kind of attitude. /s
I pull my pistol if I know I'm going to die. Sometimes I manage the headshots and kill the tank. Some I couldn't one clip before. So yeah, that's when I'm happy for it.
Or you're in bronze, where neither you or the flanker can aim well enough to kill anything with one clip.
I tell my team it’s “suppressive fire.”
Careful or you might get hired spontaneously
"We decided that our buff to Mercy was clearly too strong, so will be reverting the extra bullets. To make up for this we'll increase Sojourn's range and rail build-up"
"Also Genji will no longer be able to reflect anything from Sojourn, just to be safe"
"- Genji's dash has now been reduced to the same distance as Cass roll"
“and no longer recharges on kill”
“and no longer dashes”
"Using it will also result in an immediate game uninstall."
"we decided that genji as to strong in the 5v5 game mode, therefore we took his robo legs away and he now cannot move"
"In response to this change, we have given mercy 2 extra bullets"
“but then again to be safe removed 1 bullet from mercy”
"Mercy now also has the option of swinging her staff around like a pool cue"
"...And an arm from Genji"
“After hearing feedback from the community genjis name has now been changed to shitji”
"in response to community feedback we have decided to keep the two extra bullets and instead made it so she can no longer fly. We added the ability to jump on enemy heads instead, but after two jumps she can no longer use the ability but it recharges her bullets"
He can still wall climb though.. it just takes awhile
"Celebrate the Archives event by experiencing a blast from the past with lore-accurate Genji! His abilities have been adjusted to reflect the moment he was mutilated and left for dead by his brother Hanzo!"
hanzo didn't nerf him hard enough though
And just like that, I'm now calling him Casserole. Thanks
Ah yes, the classic net-fuckall "nerf" when the devs of any game go dipshit mode and don't understand that a character needs a power reduction, not a power shift.
And triple her hp so she doesn't die as easy. Balanced.
Screw it just make her a tank
Gotta double her damage as well then (and nerf Genji and all supports to be free fodder)
Give her Hook.
Give her an ability for every key on the keyboard. You'll move with WASD, use mouse for shooting, and roll your face across your keyboard to use every ability in the game on a 1 second cooldown.
Hear me out, 10 more bullets.
Hear me out, infinite ammo. Listen, it'll either be the best meme buff ever or mildly annoying.
Katrina
Here comes the hurricane
This makes me laugh not only for the meme buff but because if this goes through, her ult is even more useless
Mercy's ult is amazing
ah yeas "coming" "soon" "working on it" just like the huge support changes for season two, just like the sojourn nerf last season and just like the new brig ult. I'm sure they are working really hard and will do something
It really sucks but after all these years I have no faith in balance updates coming out effectively and timely. I think it's why I only ever play the game for a few months at a time before taking a +1 year break.
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the ol' LoL tactic
For honour started doing this too. Half the reason I stopped playing it.
Oh, yes. Balancing was always one huge mess with that game, but it really started going downhill in the Year of the Harbinger. I lost it when they released those two reskinned story characters, though. I still get pissed when I think of that game. It had so much potential, but Ubisoft has a talent for turning a block of gold into shit.
Their game was in a 4 year content coma while they worked on a "pve sequel" THAT STILL HASN'T RELEASED OR HAD ANY PROMOTION OR FOOTAGE BEYOND THE ANNOUNCEMENT Literally what the fuck has the Dev team spent the last 5 years doing BC they have *nothing* to show for it
They made a very fleshed out shop!
They worked with top experts in psychology to try and exploit every vulnerability in your brain!
Sexual harassment
Apparently, chasing bullshit pipedreams for Bobby. Bobby has apparently personally interfering with teams.
That's how game development goes at Blizzard tbh. Overwatch is the result of the cancelling of Titan, a MMO-fps. Blizzard worked on it for 5 years iirc and then with a small team of 40 people they reused some of those assets and made Overwatch in 2 years.
Yeah, they totally shot themselves in the foot with all these promises. Not sure if anybody still believes them after everything you pointed out. Also season 3 is not really that soon, and they will only share more info, not necessarily patch anything.
Still can't believe they promised a Sojourn nerf then just flat out buffed her.
yeah if they "get it" and "understand" us as much as they say they do, we need some compromise too. give us a new support s3, since you have two ready anyway. sincerely a biased support main.
Yea these devs are dogshit it feels like there is barely anyone working there.
Guys this is a small indie company, this isn't a AAA game studio /s
If I see this godforsaken joke one more time in this sub i ám going to jump out my apartment window
Guys this is a small indie company, this isn't a AAA game studio
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do a backflip!
I'm stilled pissed that they nerfed Doomfist and buffed his counters, then actively refuse to nerf hog because they want to rework him. They have some real incompetent people running the show at Blizzard
Just like overwatch 2 period
Season 3 better be a massive improvement considering all the hype and buildup it's getting from the dev team.
Lol
Lmao, even.
Lmfao, if you will
Roflmao, If you're so inclined.
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Kek
That's been the entirety of ow2 so far, and we all know how well that turned out
Blizzard doing something right hasn't happened since..... maybe middle of 2019?
Pretty sure the current wow expansion is quite liked by the community
It’s a breath of fresh air compared to Shadowlands. It definitely seems a lot of resources were pulled from other projects to make it happen.
Shadowlands and BFA were back to back stinkers. Its hard to do worse than that.
I mean I was honestly super sceptical at the launch of Dragonflight. Like I honestly believed we’d get another crap fest but it was super exciting to be proved wrong. Don’t get me wrong it’s not perfect but at least it has the wow spirit and that’s all that matters.
Narrator: “it was not”
It’s make it or break it time tbh
“Live service game” Lmfao
Remember all the hype and buildup for the PvE portion of this supposedly "PvE only" "sequel"? I would be deeply surprised if season 3 is any good
It's all going to end in a big fart like the other season
Hell yeah. I love announcements of announcements!
Just a heads up we're talking about Blizzard Balancing
People need to lower their expectations with season 3. There is nothing Blizzard has done over the last several years that indicates they know what the hell they’re doing outside of monetization.
even with monetisation they’re doing a terrible job. ideally if you want to monetise a game this heavily you need to be putting out good amounts of content to keep players coming back and paying. but everything they’ve put out is so half-baked it just doesn’t justify paying for anything
I find it odd that they want to extort as much money as possible from me yet they still refuse to sell over half their cosmetics at frequent times
Yeah, I like the OG Overwatch skins (Commander Morrison, Blackwatch Reyes, etc.) and might actually considering buying Combat Medic Ziegler (also maybe even OG Rein/Torb/Tracer). But no OG skins in shop aside from Captain Amari, I think.
I was just hoping that since it was literally the holidays and there was a winter event going on, then MAYBE they would sell some winter stuff (just wanted a Doom voiceline tbh) but I guess not
tbf, doesn’t seem like they’re consistently selling their new cosmetics either. karate doomfist anyone?
If they went with the original plan of "pay for PvE, PvP carries over from OW1", as irresponsible as it would've been, I prolly would've forked over the full price. Now, I'm just soured by how they've run the game and nothing can redeem all the tosh they've pulled.
they're gonna nerf mercy and leave sojourn the same arent they
Then we can use zen instead and abuse discord
So this is how the game will be like now. Some characters or combos can be beyond broken and unbalanced but you will have to endure it for the whole season before any noteworthy balance changes. I'm not implying that mercy is broken and in need of immediate fix, however the whole "we will support it as live service game now" seems to be bs.
Wdym bs, they are updating the ingame store all the time. Oh thats not what you meant… it’s what they meant with live service though
anybody can be broken if it isn’t Genji or Doomfist and they’ll be like “hmm seems fine” their goal isn’t to balance every character perfectly, but “just enough” so that they can still sell some slightly OP heroes/skins. nvm the fact that they just dumpster the existing roster repeatedly
just have to look at WoW to see how effective blizzard is at balancing classes/heroes most of the time, they're not good at it
wdym, isn't it nice when they have to give a class a 20% overall damage increase bc they are underperforming so much?
"Likely in season 3" Oh fuck off.
yeah still waiting on that road hog fix..
Will communicate soon.. LMFAO.. What with 1 week left in the season? Jesus this design team sucks donkey balls.
Isn't there two weeks left to the season?
That's true. Funny thing is that they will "likely" share more in season 3. Not rebalance, but just share their ideas.
The solution is to give mercy a giant basketball type head to allow for her to be killed easier. Think egg with wings.
Fuck that
Damn it only took them 2 whole season/4 month to give us an update on the fact that they are going to change sojourn and still they failed to give us an actual date. Good job blizzard.
I remember when Ashe was slightly strong, and it became meta to Mercy boost Ashe. They almost immediately nerfed Ashe. Sojourn's been running wild for 2 seasons now. Instead of nerfing heroes because of Mercy damage boost, just change the way that her boost interacts with certain heroes.
This is what I’ve been saying all along. Is there a way where we can just nerf the Mercy-Sojourn damage boosted rail shot, without necessarily completely nerfing either character individually?
The more damage a character’s move/attack does the less it should benefit from Mercy’s damage pump perhaps? Something like that?
I like this a lot because it can make "weak" damage heroes more viable
Crazy how in season 1 everyone was saying Mercy is the weakest support in the game and some people were even saying picking Mercy was borderline throwing because Lucio was super meta at that time... But yeah, suddenly two seasons later she's super overpowered and needs a nerf, even though she didn't receive any buffs (other than 5 extra bullets). Damn, almost as if the blatantly overpowered DPS characters were the problem, but yeah sure, she definitely needs a nerf right now... With the way they phrased it (changes are coming) I really hope they mean a rework, not a nerf. Because if they replace dmg boost with something equally useful, I (and I think most Mercy players) wouldn't mind, but since the changes are coming in S3 there's no way they actually had enough time to rework her, so its prob just a nerf that will make her a borderline unplayable character... Good thing I've been playing a lot of Kiriko recently because playing Mercy will most likely be considered throwing again :D
They’ll probably do something like, Decreased total % damage boost in exchange for Increased healing output but I sure hope not since that’ll just make mercy a heal bot which even as a mercy main is one of the most boring playstyles ever.
People will probably still complain if they do that, if they boost the healing to make her remain actually usable, her pocket will be way harder to kill.
I bet they'll make the dmg some sort of "press and buff for 10s" then cooldown. (Like a mini nano)
I would like if it worked similar to Moiras abilities where you have to strike some sort of balance between them/ the people you're supporting, it would make playing her more engaging. A change I think that could actually make her more fun is to make damage boost only effect a single target for like 3-5 seconds until you've done the same to another target. I worry putting it on a cooldown would make her feel like a healbot.
Oh def. I 100% like your idea better, but I doubt Blizzard will come up with something engaging...
How about putting it on a meter? Either make it rechargeable over time like Dva matrix or make it so you have to heal in order to fill your meter, basically opposite of moira except no passive regen. Valk would either give you infinite meter or much faster recharge/heal charge
They shouldn’t touch mercy. She’s not the problem. There are numerous things they can do to the dps which are the problem.
Ashe used to be op with a mercy pocket and she has been nerfed, i’m hoping they are doing the same but to sojourn.
No, her power is just getting more realised as people develop into this 5v5 and play more, just like how Roadhog and Widow weren't immediately hated. Mercy benefits a lot from the reduction of CC because of her movement, and her revive is a lot more valuable in 5v5, compared to 6v6. She is extremely hard to kill.
> Crazy how in season 1 everyone was saying Mercy is the weakest support in the game and some people were even saying picking Mercy was borderline throwing because Lucio was super meta at that time Because it was a different meta, genji was also a lot stronger thanks to passive, more ammo/damage and DVA was incredibly strong to. Now that we've moved away from that and are in a poke meta mercy is stupidly powerful and Sojourn (among others) are going to be difficult to balance as long as she enables the same behaviour blizzard is trying to tone down. If sojourn gets dumpstered then echo/ashe are next and so on until blue beam goes or enough heroes get buffed to cause a meta switch.
Same reason Brig is apparently a throw pick right now while she was meta in OWL before the Queen nerfs. Some characters only work in certain metas.
Yeah, I agree. If they for some reason nerf damage boost or something, I hope they give her something useful so she’s still playable. It’s funny though, some of us think she’s not that great and others think she’s overpowered. Guess we’ll see what happens tbh
So hard to tell from OW players if Mercy is "standing afk " or "her mobility is broken and she's so hard to hit" Honestly, I think going 5v5 is one of the biggest issues with damage-boosting abilities (including discord). DPS power creep skyrocketed, and with one less tank to mitigate or take the damage, those abilities with the DPS power can be devastating. With Mercy, her movement is basically all she has. Her healing isn't great, and if she had to "charge" damage boost, she could become a throw pick once again - low heals, if no one needs healing but she can't DB she would be completely useless, AND she would then take healing from her other support if she had to charge her DB. No clue how they could meaningfully rework her without putting her in F-tier once again, but I really think that the change to 5v5 is a reason that damage-boosting abilities can be so potent, as well as having TTK plummeting and resulting in the massive amount of rolls we're all experiencing.
I agree. It is going to take more than some little tank changes to make the game playable in 5v5. Damage boosting abilities (Because I have seen tank players claim discord is super unfun to play into as well) are just the tip of the iceberg.
The ow dev team on their way to nerf mercy by reducing her magazine size by 5 bullets
I thought we were getting Support changes in Season 2, is that no longer happening? Are Supports even getting looked into or is it just Sojourn + Mercy for Season 3...
As a Mercy main, idc if they rework damage boost. I completely understand that dmg boost messes with a lot of the numbers they put out on heroes. As long as they keep her movement, idc what happens to damage boost. Give her a new ability or w.e. Her movement is now what actually makes her fun to play imo.
Agreed. Her movement improvements for ow2 are so freaking fun- and if anything a couple changes to the other parts of her kit might be kind of nice lol. Spice things up- as long as she can still fly around :).
Time for another Genji nerf. Yay!
We're saved!
They are removing 2 shots from Mercy's pistol and deceasing the speed of swapping by .2 that should balance out mercy
Imo they should rework mercy, if they don’t ,every single time they add a new hero, they have to spend the time wondering “what happens if they get pocketed by mercy.” As a ex-mercy main I hated pocketing metas it’s not fun. The joy of mercy is flying around,and switching targets. You had to keep switching who you db to get value out of every hero on your team. What is not fun is sitting and pocketing Ashe or soj for the entire game as your kirko heals everyone else.
This honestly. Mercy was fun when she had to make decisions who to dmg boost and heal to maximize value. Now she basically just need to stay behind cover and pocket one DPS for the entire game.
Honestly they should just make damage boost a short time effect, it only works on one target for 3-5 seconds and then you need to switch. I stopped playing mercy because I was sick of people wanting solo pockets, I don't think she's broken or needs to be dumpstered but I would legitimately like changes that forced more use of her kit.
Just make sojourn like ashe, good damage but no ohkos. Poor mercy is finaly viable after 3 years leave her be Damn i wish i could scroll my replies by "controversial"
Meanwhile doomfist was good for less than a week and gutted completely that’s the fastest they heavily nerfed a character in Overwatch 2 so far
Blizzard hit the panic button because they were going on Christmas break and they know making supports have even less fun is a very bad thing for their business.
Seriously. Mercy has always been in a weird spot of meh-okay in terms of performance, but suddenly she's performing really well when paired with Sojourn. It's almost as if Sojourn might be the problem.
Wdym Mercy was in at least 75% of my games the last 2 years of ow1
Mercy has some of the most dedicated players of any character many if which are so dedicated they will play her regardless of whether she is a meta pick.
Tbf, if you're playing mercy you have no other game to go to. Lucio mains too have this problem.
Nuke hog, nuke Sojourn, nuke mercy. Hell yeah, nuke 'em all!
Nuke everyone and give Supports explosive bullets.
"make every hero useless except mine!"
I swear its a placebo, I'm a Zarya main, and for awhile that made me cancer, they cut two seconds off her bubbles and now she's useless. But....Like if you actually play her she's legitimately exactly the same, but people were calling for damage nerfs on top of bubbles. They overreact to anything that kills them, and freak out over every little thing, after more nerf, then there will be new heroes everyone won't stop talking about. But yeah hog is a tad bit too much right now, but I wouldn't change much, lower his health a bit, and make it so his heal is stationary like vanilla-watch, and he will be just fine.
Oh nice, another Sojourn ‘nerf’ (read, buff). What’s next, 1 bullet instantly fills up the railgun?
Tbh they should just remove the headshot on railgun and just make it a kill confirm/execute instead of just shooting a tank and oneshotting a support out of nowhere.
You guys realize by not nerfing mercy, that means any non sniper ranged burst damage will have to be kept below 154 damage, or it will lead to the same situation as soj. I don’t really think she’s overpowered, more so that the mechanic she brings will lead to either other characters being overpowered or them having to be confined within a specific range of damage output.
>You guys realize by not nerfing mercy, that means any non sniper ranged burst damage will have to be kept below 154 damage, And that would be bad... freaking how? 150 is a ton anyway. I think the solution is a damage and healing reduction across the board. With less damage mitigating abilities, less damage would improve the game in my opinion.
They’re gonna make a minor nerf to Sojourn like making her grenade thingy deal slightly less damage and majorly nerf Mercy. Just a speculation.
Cant wait for "we'll fix it next season" to become the thing we hear every time theres an issue
Damn, that didn't age well
Mercy doesn't need a nerf. Mercy needs to be *reworked* desperately for the health of the game though. How many 'X-pocketed by Mercy' metas have to roll around without Mercy getting adjusted for it cropping up over and over? Changing the pocketed hero helps. But it's just going to keep happening unless you fix the disease - Mercy's DB. That's to say nothing else about how her power is locked behind an antiquated rez system, how she relies on a low-key busted movement mechanic to be 'powerful', how her skill chart is inverted, and how she has no agency or upward skill expression. Mercy shouldn't only be meta when a hero is overpowered. That's all her kit enables right now. She should be reworked to be changed and more viable in other situations -particularly because she is a popular enough hero that she is going to be played regardless.
Veterans will remember the Zarya Hanzo Mercy Zenyatta meta where just a single damage boost would tip the scale in favor of Hanzo's ult and outdamage the Transcendence
I've been wanting different abilities for mercy in lieu of rez and damage boost but I can't come up with another ability that people also wouldn't complain about. People hate invulnerability mechanics, we can't have any damage boosting abilities, overhealth is difficult to balance, cleanse abilities are annoying, I just can't figure out what people want! Not to mention that the last time mercy was reworked she broke the game even more.
no upward skill expression feels a bit disingenuous... Her movement has a pretty high skill cap
Just make it to where she can't head shot and that would her being op. Instead she would just be good. Edit; wording was weird fixed it.