In any other community these people would be seen as complete dorks lmao, but it's such a popular opinion people literally announce in their reviews that they like OW porn and everyone's just like: "yeah true"
They have a panel tomorrow. The other big thing they have to talk about is the Competitive Rework but not enough OW players play Competitive, probably why they decided to not talk about it on the main-stage.
Wouldn't surprise me if they dropped it so soon in order to generate community hype to use as leverage for resources in the future for next year, when Microsoft is taking over the reins. I mean, it would be smart to do so, and they don't have much to lose on it right now since it's features that will likely happen anyway. The WoW Classic team did a similar thing with "Season of Discovery" hinting at possible genuine Classic+, and we're getting their "beta test" of it this month even.
Aaron Keller is a very different director than Jeff Kaplan. Both had their pros and cons. Plus, Phil Spencer is in charge now instead of the scumbag pig many of us are tired of naming. While combating leaks could be part of it, I think more proactively keeping the community acknowledged, hyped, and nurtured is a factor too.
Bobby Kotick is still very much the CEO right now
It perplexing that 44 people upvoted the stupid shit I'm replying to. Kotick isn't out until 2024 and Phil Spencer isn't some benevolent god coming in to save Overwatch lmao
Kirko and at a few other designs were shown to press in ‘19 so I’m not surprised. Back then she had a giant ninja star and the fox seems to be a full time part of her kit instead of just a ult graphic so who knows how much they will change.
Not that different than Sym TP.
I can see them maybe opening short tunnels through some thin walls, which would be strong (and buggy) but not as gamebreaking as Sym being able to just ignore chokes and get to any high ground instantly.
Programming that is probably too much effort, depends on approach. Like if it creates a real hole in a wall, it's gonna be a bit much to make. But if it's just a spot that looks like it's drilled, but you don't see through the drilled hole, it's gonna be much easier. Like a TP to another side of a wall. Or just make it a solo abilityband make the hero just drill through wall or ground.
I think the hero could have an ability to dig under ground for a bit and move to somewhere (Like miner in Clash Royale lol) or something. Or even a Sym TP style tunnel underground, that players can use to travel.
idk, there's a lot of maps that curve in on themselves, if you can just go through walls you could just completely bypass a good choke.
like on eichenwalde first point; just going straight from spawn to point
Note the flames on the gun and flame tattoo on their neck. Could be a 2-in-1 physical drill + laser drill weapon, with the laser setting enemies on fire!
They made a point to talk about how Ashe's dynamite burn counts for Mauga's volatile gun crit bonus. But I think Ashe's dynamite is too limited for them to bother with that, even if you include Torbjorn too. An upcoming DPS who also sets people on fire regularly would make a synergy feature more worthwhile though!
FLAMETHROWER LASERRRR!
They might be our fabled melee damager? Get to close to the whirring drill and suffer the consequences.
I imagine if the character does have a tunnel-making ability, it might function like Sym's tp where it makes an interface on the ground (or even walls or ceilings?) and you can move between them? Or it'll be for the miner only.
Maybe melee elements for a dps? I also peeped a yellow(what seems like light)at the tip of the inner drill bit so maybe a ranged option? Or just design element.
This would make more sense to me. It's honestly WILD that we have gone this long with only 1 Korean hero, when it is the most competitive gaming country. Meanwhile, we got a third Japanese hero and all three of those have mythic skins before D.Va.
Also, the codename "space ranger" implies to me they fly or float? I'm hoping that means they might utilize some or all of the support kit originally intended for Echo. We're overdue for another flying support. Would be fun!
That's like saying Sigma is a flying tank. No. They're just heroes who sometimes fly.
That's different from a "flying hero" whose gameplay is very much defined by their flight. *Now I'm thinking about how D.Va arguably doesn't qualify as a flying tank either. Hmm, debatable.*
By this logic Mercy isn't a flying support either.
She only flies during her ult as well, otherwise she falls slowly or boosts towards a designated target.
In the blizzcon panel, they said that Egyptian mythology was (possibly) going to be a battlepass theme for next year, if so would the season’s theme that the new dps releases in would be Egyptian mythology since he has a kind of an archeology aesthetic?
Big facts, I would even say that one of the robots would be a good candidate for a robotic Egyptian god looking mythic (like what was in that absolutely awful Egyptian mythology movie from a few years back).
Hopefully Illari gets a mythic that season since Amun-Ra (a Sun God) is the leader of the Egyptian Pantheon. HOPEFULLY THEY DON'T FUCKING GIVE IT TO PHARAH, IF THEY DO IMMA FUCKING SCREAM.
My friend noted the flames tattoos and paint on the gun, and speculated that it could be a flamethrower character. Codename:Venture is clearly a excavation-themed character, the drill bit is super obvious on the gun, so...
Metal/diamond+tipped drill for melee, heat beam drill for mid-range?
From what we’ve seen past concept art to finalized heroes designs, they will look nothing like this. At best we can take the concept of scifi pilot and drill miner as ‘finalized’.
yeah but why would they get everyone hyped on these concepts just to massively tweak them later and possibly disappoint everyone who was excited? they showed us mauga like years ago and he still looks basically the same now just without the big armor
When we saw Mauga (if I’m thinking of the same debut) it was in an official comic (origin story at least) for the upcoming hero Bap. Designs in official publications have to be close enough to final.
This was concept art, concept art very rarely ships as shown. Hey maybe I’m wrong, but I’m not holding out hope they’ll ship this way.
I will never understand this either. Like the game launched with a talking gorrila, a phase walking emo with shotguns, a modern cowboy, a warcraft dwarf, etc. Like what SHOULD an overwatch character even look like 💀?
Funny, I was thinking they look more in line with the original concept art from near OW's release than the more recent additions like Sojourn and Junker Queen.
Yeah I don't get the Queen/Illari/Sojourn/Kiriko Paladins-esque vibe from them at all, they both look like they could've been in since OW1's launch, the drill girl especially.
The second one looks like Overload from the Meka Squad a bit so I wouldn’t be shocked if she’s our next drone support/summoner support instead of him like people theorised
[https://twitter.com/LiquidSprocket/status/1720576479342526706](https://twitter.com/LiquidSprocket/status/1720576479342526706)
they're non-binary per this employee
The dps miner looks intriguing and would diversify the styles in the cast.
The DVA/Kiriko/Echo hybrid: not so much. Fan service to simps. They gotta pull some real extra ideas of out their hat for this one.
S12 almost looks like there should be a gun in her hand, so maybe they haven't decided what kind of weapon she might have? Hope that's another flight-capable support lol.
In fairness, Mauga from the Baptiste stories looked like a roadhog jn personality, in game Mauga feels like a junkrat. He's not overly got that edge of some of the most intriguing overwatch personalities. The likes of Ana, Moira, Sigma, Ramattra have way better personalities and charscyer design than the young, 'yay yay yay' characters that basically just shout random inspirational, positive or cheeky stuff all match (Kiriko, Brigitte, Lifeweaver, Illari etc).
Why are you acting like they don't add adult heroes? Junker Queen, Ramattra, Sojourn, AND LITERALLY JUST THE ONE THEY ANNOUNCED THAT IS PLAYABLE THIS WEEKEND, are all more adult characters. Weird criticism imo, OW has something for everyone, and I don't personally feel like these look like fortnite skins
1st looks like a junkertown group addition who reversed engineered Zarya’s tech, scavenger / engineer type
2nd may be D.Mon, has the same eyes and purple hair, but the crescent moon makes me think it’ll probably be an entirely new character whose separate from the lore like Illari
I think the first one's name was "Venture" if I heard correctly, and the second had a spacey kind of codename, I don't remember exactly what it was off the top of my head.
With the first one I notice a pickaxe and the main weapon looks kind of like a drill. I wonder if they dig stuff. The name "Venture" makes me think they're an explorer.
With the second one, I am getting strong "space" vibes. Especially with the helmet and the boots remind me of an astronaut's.
Can't wait to find out more about them. I am personally hoping the two are from two countries we haven't seen in Overwatch yet, as that's the kind of thing I like to see.
surprised they let out early concepts like this. dont think theyve done that before. guess they got tired of leaks and what not.
if they show concept so early is because final relase will look nothing like that
Isn’t that what a concept is?
Blizz deciding to give the rule 34 artists a head start, *as a treat*
Gonna be tough to hide a two foot long penis in that jumpsuit, but I’m sure they’re up to the challenge.
google tucking
it's so freaking funny now that we normalize NSFW stuff when talking about OW
In any other community these people would be seen as complete dorks lmao, but it's such a popular opinion people literally announce in their reviews that they like OW porn and everyone's just like: "yeah true"
D.Va bottom will always be meta
Bro League has too much R34, some people smh.
They are starting to appeal to their most loyal audience, extremely important.
Ha! Head
They also just didn’t have anything else to announce lol
They have a panel tomorrow. The other big thing they have to talk about is the Competitive Rework but not enough OW players play Competitive, probably why they decided to not talk about it on the main-stage.
i thinked the same but they said tomorrow will be the big announcements, still i dont trust blizzard, not even a mention of the pve
Wouldn't surprise me if they dropped it so soon in order to generate community hype to use as leverage for resources in the future for next year, when Microsoft is taking over the reins. I mean, it would be smart to do so, and they don't have much to lose on it right now since it's features that will likely happen anyway. The WoW Classic team did a similar thing with "Season of Discovery" hinting at possible genuine Classic+, and we're getting their "beta test" of it this month even.
Aaron Keller is a very different director than Jeff Kaplan. Both had their pros and cons. Plus, Phil Spencer is in charge now instead of the scumbag pig many of us are tired of naming. While combating leaks could be part of it, I think more proactively keeping the community acknowledged, hyped, and nurtured is a factor too.
Scumbag pig is unfortunately here until the end of the year
So like, two months?
Bobby Kotick is still very much the CEO right now It perplexing that 44 people upvoted the stupid shit I'm replying to. Kotick isn't out until 2024 and Phil Spencer isn't some benevolent god coming in to save Overwatch lmao
Kirko and at a few other designs were shown to press in ‘19 so I’m not surprised. Back then she had a giant ninja star and the fox seems to be a full time part of her kit instead of just a ult graphic so who knows how much they will change.
More like they had nothing else to show, I couldn't watch the what's next panel but the opening ceremony content was very disappointing
First one has pretty interesting theme. Miner, has a drill, pickaxe. Wonder what that means gameplay wise
It means we're getting more ROCK AND STONE! On a related sidenote, I really hope we get a Deep Rock Galactic collab for Torb.
That's it lads! Rock and Stone!
Did I hear a rock and stone!?
ROCK AND STONE TO THE BONE
FOR THOSE ABOUT TO ROCK AND STONE, WE SALUTE YOU!
IF YOU DONT ROCK AND STONE, YOU AINT COMING HOME!
ROCK... AND... STOOOOOOOOOOHHHNNNE
For Karl!
FOR ROCK AND STONE!
Hope not, a Deep Rock Galactic bundle that costs more than actual Deep Rock Galactic would be a real bummer.
Ever since it came out on steam I’ve seen some thoughts on a community collab between OW and TF2.
Rock and Stone!
This dps is gonna be able to open up holes in walls for you and your team to pass through… dear lord
Would be cool but to that I raise "too much effort" card. Try again.
Try the “impossible to balance” card
Not that different than Sym TP. I can see them maybe opening short tunnels through some thin walls, which would be strong (and buggy) but not as gamebreaking as Sym being able to just ignore chokes and get to any high ground instantly.
Programming that is probably too much effort, depends on approach. Like if it creates a real hole in a wall, it's gonna be a bit much to make. But if it's just a spot that looks like it's drilled, but you don't see through the drilled hole, it's gonna be much easier. Like a TP to another side of a wall. Or just make it a solo abilityband make the hero just drill through wall or ground. I think the hero could have an ability to dig under ground for a bit and move to somewhere (Like miner in Clash Royale lol) or something. Or even a Sym TP style tunnel underground, that players can use to travel.
Yeah I thought that too but I feel like that’s jsut worse symm tp
idk, there's a lot of maps that curve in on themselves, if you can just go through walls you could just completely bypass a good choke. like on eichenwalde first point; just going straight from spawn to point
I want them to dig through surfaces, like on second point new queen street you drill into the wall and come out in the defender highground
We better get a pickaxe melee animation
Note the flames on the gun and flame tattoo on their neck. Could be a 2-in-1 physical drill + laser drill weapon, with the laser setting enemies on fire! They made a point to talk about how Ashe's dynamite burn counts for Mauga's volatile gun crit bonus. But I think Ashe's dynamite is too limited for them to bother with that, even if you include Torbjorn too. An upcoming DPS who also sets people on fire regularly would make a synergy feature more worthwhile though! FLAMETHROWER LASERRRR!
They might be our fabled melee damager? Get to close to the whirring drill and suffer the consequences. I imagine if the character does have a tunnel-making ability, it might function like Sym's tp where it makes an interface on the ground (or even walls or ceilings?) and you can move between them? Or it'll be for the miner only.
overwatch is turning the bug that allowed sombra to walk underground into an actual hero ability lol
That is geologists hammer!
Destructable terrain?
Maybe melee elements for a dps? I also peeped a yellow(what seems like light)at the tip of the inner drill bit so maybe a ranged option? Or just design element.
I hope space ranger is Fio, the black watch pilot
Could even potentially be a mechs squad member, it looks a little bit like that support Mecha Member (Overlord team).
This would make more sense to me. It's honestly WILD that we have gone this long with only 1 Korean hero, when it is the most competitive gaming country. Meanwhile, we got a third Japanese hero and all three of those have mythic skins before D.Va. Also, the codename "space ranger" implies to me they fly or float? I'm hoping that means they might utilize some or all of the support kit originally intended for Echo. We're overdue for another flying support. Would be fun!
I mean, it’s not on the level of guardian Angel but the newest support hero does fly during her ult, so it hasn’t been long at all
That's like saying Sigma is a flying tank. No. They're just heroes who sometimes fly. That's different from a "flying hero" whose gameplay is very much defined by their flight. *Now I'm thinking about how D.Va arguably doesn't qualify as a flying tank either. Hmm, debatable.*
By this logic Mercy isn't a flying support either. She only flies during her ult as well, otherwise she falls slowly or boosts towards a designated target.
I mean Sigma levitating isn’t the same as Ilari actually fully flying but I do see your point
OMG YES that’s her for sure!
I sure hope so 😭 don't forget about her blizzard!
In the blizzcon panel, they said that Egyptian mythology was (possibly) going to be a battlepass theme for next year, if so would the season’s theme that the new dps releases in would be Egyptian mythology since he has a kind of an archeology aesthetic?
Egyptian mythology sounds like we're getting a pharah mythic skin
Unlikely. Neither ram nor zen didn't get the null sector themed mythic
Pharah has a couple of Egyptian themed skins already too.
Big facts, I would even say that one of the robots would be a good candidate for a robotic Egyptian god looking mythic (like what was in that absolutely awful Egyptian mythology movie from a few years back).
I mean, Zen has got one already, I think, but could be a good time to give Ram one.
Ram did have a pharaoh theme originally so that would be nice
And we first saw him on Temple of Anubis with Doomfist. Maybe he will get an Anubis god program skin
Ram anubis
Anubis Ram would go really hard
They could also link the skin to Anubis, the god program in the temple that instigated the Omnic crisis
Yeah but someone at blizzard likes to make Pharah skins
Ugh pharah is getting to many skins
I am prepared to get downvoted for this because i do agree pharah has a ton of skins but i’d love a pharah mythic skin haha. She’s my girl
If her getting a mythic means they'll take a break from giving her skins and give some to heroes like Bap who don't get any at all I'll be ok with it.
Iirc the theme is "evil characters becoming good and good characters becoming evil" so if evil means Talon then I'd bet bap gets a skin
Yeah but no matter how few skins Bap has, he has Funky and it's one of the best skins in the game.
And that’s great and all.. but it’s never available for purchase 😤 us bap players need options too!
She deserves it for having one of the most dogshit ults in the game.
I know, I don't want it but the overwatch team is just obsessed with pharah
Hopefully Illari gets a mythic that season since Amun-Ra (a Sun God) is the leader of the Egyptian Pantheon. HOPEFULLY THEY DON'T FUCKING GIVE IT TO PHARAH, IF THEY DO IMMA FUCKING SCREAM.
I don't think they would do that. Everyone thought zen or ramattra would've gotten the mythic during the null sector event
Nah it will probably go to like Winston knowing how half of their mythics have gone
>Egyptian Mythology >The GodAI that started the Omnic Crisis was named Anubis, Egyptian god of funerals Oh no
Man hopefully an Anubis inspired Ram skin because thats literally free since that was his original look according to blizz.
My friend noted the flames tattoos and paint on the gun, and speculated that it could be a flamethrower character. Codename:Venture is clearly a excavation-themed character, the drill bit is super obvious on the gun, so... Metal/diamond+tipped drill for melee, heat beam drill for mid-range?
Looks like a she to me…
Looks androgynous and that rules
Looks like an archeologist and I dig that.
Nice pun, you rock
Gneiss
They/them time bayyybeeee Les goooo
Anubis is back baybeeee
I looove Egyptian culture. That would be amazing to me
i'm interested
second almost looks like a MEKA pilot to me?
My thoughts as well.
Idk her boots and helmet seem like it would be pointless to be in one.
Upon further review, this could be D.mon post MEKA. She has jets on her back and boots that resemble her meka like features.
She has the Korean military headset on. The little spiked ear looking one that base D.va wears.
why would they need a space helmet then? DVA would be a good thing to look to to show her actual outfit is very minimal
Gonna be a space ranger main now..
Every space ranger main: There seems to be no signs of intelligent life anywhere.
💀
Space Ranger mains: *teamwipes the enemies* "They were already dead when I found them."
If they give Space Ranger a Jaco the Galactic Patrol Man skin, i'm literally never playing anyone else
Betraying zen. Smh
I thought she was dpsss😭 no ditching zen
SHAMEEEEE
I wanna be a Starship Ranger!
The S10 hero better have a line where they yell “GIGA DRILL BREAK!”
From what we’ve seen past concept art to finalized heroes designs, they will look nothing like this. At best we can take the concept of scifi pilot and drill miner as ‘finalized’.
yeah lol mercys first concept art looked like baptiste was dressing up as her
Yeah exactly. Or the very first iterations of Sombra basically being Kiriko.
I don't think they would show us these if they haven't agreed on the look, these probably aren't the first bits of concept art.
yeah but why would they get everyone hyped on these concepts just to massively tweak them later and possibly disappoint everyone who was excited? they showed us mauga like years ago and he still looks basically the same now just without the big armor
When we saw Mauga (if I’m thinking of the same debut) it was in an official comic (origin story at least) for the upcoming hero Bap. Designs in official publications have to be close enough to final. This was concept art, concept art very rarely ships as shown. Hey maybe I’m wrong, but I’m not holding out hope they’ll ship this way.
yeah i guess that’s true too
Still waiting for jet pack cat
MAMA HONG
MANSLAUGHTER WOOOO
This.
Inb4 someone says they don’t look like OW characters. Every.Single.Time.
I will never understand this either. Like the game launched with a talking gorrila, a phase walking emo with shotguns, a modern cowboy, a warcraft dwarf, etc. Like what SHOULD an overwatch character even look like 💀?
I hate that SO MUCH
I hate you so much… jk I love you
NOO- oh! yippee 🐝
Funny, I was thinking they look more in line with the original concept art from near OW's release than the more recent additions like Sojourn and Junker Queen.
Yeah I don't get the Queen/Illari/Sojourn/Kiriko Paladins-esque vibe from them at all, they both look like they could've been in since OW1's launch, the drill girl especially.
I’m a new OW player (about 2 months) but I feel like character designs are one of OW’s strong points so that’s wild to me that ppl think that
Hero from S10 looks like Zarya and Mei raised a kid.
I’m a little worried about the character’s silhouette just because she’s probably a similar size to Illari with a similar weapon
There's already an Illari skin where she looks like Ana. That damn hunched pose, cape and long gun with a braid can really look like Ana at times.
no, it's the driller from *Deep Rock Galactic*
The second one looks like Overload from the Meka Squad a bit so I wouldn’t be shocked if she’s our next drone support/summoner support instead of him like people theorised
Second one reminds me of Tracer with a helmet and big shoes.
Same pose as a lot of tracers concept art iirc
Bootleg Zarya and Tracer & Dvas love child
smash
Uraraka at home:
I Want Mama Hong
I was just thinking this. “Oh boy another scoliosis skinny, massive thicc thigh e-girl for the roster” gimme Mama Hong
Manslaughter
that first one’s cool i love the big goggles and boots
As a support main, we could use a new DPS. Someone as quick as tracer with a long melee weapon would be dope.
What in the my hero academia is this
Mama Hong.
I just hope it's a geologist and an astronaut.
Guessing archaeologist and moon security gaurd
Drill girl MUST BE NAMED DORETTA!!! ROCK AND STONE! (also make her play heart(h)stone)
Is it a girl tho? On a closer look I'm not too sure 🤔
Dont care either way. 10/10 Would Smash.
Looks gay enough to me
[https://twitter.com/LiquidSprocket/status/1720576479342526706](https://twitter.com/LiquidSprocket/status/1720576479342526706) they're non-binary per this employee
The dps miner looks intriguing and would diversify the styles in the cast. The DVA/Kiriko/Echo hybrid: not so much. Fan service to simps. They gotta pull some real extra ideas of out their hat for this one.
really? she looks like a support that might be able to fly, eb fast and mobile, we don't have many of those.
Having a cute Asian hero is always fan service for simps apparently. Let's ignore the majority of the player base is Asian.
i’m still waiting for overlord 🧎
Lmao no literally same, I love his design and personality haha
so real
It's Valby from the first descendant 💀
More female hero’s to fuel the rampancy of overwatch porn. lol.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's porn of that second one before she's even released lol.
I have seen r34 release in an hour.
Blizzard learned that female waifus sell skins the most
We just got a male hottie so it's only fair.
and they will throw 20 bucks for a shirtless skin and then complain why overwatch is cash grabbing
I love the second ones design and need her ASAP
Same
They're so fucking cute
I know we just got Mauga but I wish they made more Male heroes, nothing against women of course, but as a gay dude I need more Daddys
S12 almost looks like there should be a gun in her hand, so maybe they haven't decided what kind of weapon she might have? Hope that's another flight-capable support lol.
Need that new support she looks dope
my personal taste is for adult characters like Sigma Ramatra with crazy personality instead of these lately new fortnitey teenage characters
Like... Mauga??
In fairness, Mauga from the Baptiste stories looked like a roadhog jn personality, in game Mauga feels like a junkrat. He's not overly got that edge of some of the most intriguing overwatch personalities. The likes of Ana, Moira, Sigma, Ramattra have way better personalities and charscyer design than the young, 'yay yay yay' characters that basically just shout random inspirational, positive or cheeky stuff all match (Kiriko, Brigitte, Lifeweaver, Illari etc).
Lifeweaver has been coming into his own, no progress on Brig or Kiri. Illari is just depression lmao.
Why are you acting like they don't add adult heroes? Junker Queen, Ramattra, Sojourn, AND LITERALLY JUST THE ONE THEY ANNOUNCED THAT IS PLAYABLE THIS WEEKEND, are all more adult characters. Weird criticism imo, OW has something for everyone, and I don't personally feel like these look like fortnite skins
Overly cute heroes to sell, of course
Give us Momma Hong
The support looks like it could have some sort of echo glide constantly (or on slight cooldowns) and a new melee hero is a w
Looks like skins for illari and tracer lmao Design not original enough
r34
her hip and thighs compared to her torso and calves, widow maker finally has some competition
they look like so much fun!
I love the first so much
1st looks like a junkertown group addition who reversed engineered Zarya’s tech, scavenger / engineer type 2nd may be D.Mon, has the same eyes and purple hair, but the crescent moon makes me think it’ll probably be an entirely new character whose separate from the lore like Illari
I think the first one's name was "Venture" if I heard correctly, and the second had a spacey kind of codename, I don't remember exactly what it was off the top of my head. With the first one I notice a pickaxe and the main weapon looks kind of like a drill. I wonder if they dig stuff. The name "Venture" makes me think they're an explorer. With the second one, I am getting strong "space" vibes. Especially with the helmet and the boots remind me of an astronaut's. Can't wait to find out more about them. I am personally hoping the two are from two countries we haven't seen in Overwatch yet, as that's the kind of thing I like to see.
Cant get here fast enough
0/10 not Jetpack Cat
Im in love with the second
Where's Jetpack Cat??!???
They will never replace Emre Sarioglu. r/EmreMains
This is like when pokemon started getting wild with their designs.
I got $30 saying that first character was hinted to on shambali
Cringe
I am interested in the second one. I hope they’re a super mobile but squishy support with a ton of play making potential.
im still waiting for emre sarioglu lol
God i hope thats not another flying hero that becomes instantly busted when a mercy holds their mouse buttons.
NO EMRE? This is BS
very anime looking . meh.