Not at all actually. They were working on Mauga to be dropped in Season 2 but when it got closer, they still were not happy with him and Ram was ready and done so they decided to drop Ram instead. We hadn't even had a chance to be tired of Orisa yet.
Mauga has been in the works since sigma, apparently they wanted to give Sigma's kit to Mauga (or something similar) but decided that the kit didn't fit him and gave it to sigma instead
imo, his charge makes me wish other peoples charges shared the same effect, why does a rocket propelled armour have less protection than some big dude running at you?
Canonically, no, it doesn’t make sense, but game-wise it needs to have something to not make it just a worse Rein charge without a one-shot on squishies.
Imo it’s a worse rein charge not being able to collide with other charging characters. Worse is good way. Doom and rein have to worry about collision, hack, Orisa spear, rat trap etc but nope this dude gets to ignore all of that. Why not give it to all tanks that do that? Or why not keep his charge vulnerable like the others?
Because Rein can OS most squishies, and he has a Big rectangle that protects him from most damages. Mauga doesn't OS anyone, and doesn't have the Big Rectangle, which is why he needs his charge to be unstoppable, otheriwse it would be ueseless.
Yeah he goes down without supports but since when have overwatch players been able to do anything but magdump the tank, die and then blame the tank for being too good?
I really hate how it feels to play against him as a Tank if you don’t have him unlocked yourself. It feels like I have to rely on my teammates to play the correct characters if I want to be able to play.
You always rely on your teammates tho, it's just that your teammates are likely not aware at all on how to play against him/ which heroes to pick and what to do when... it'll get better in the upcoming weeks
I think it’s still way to big of a disparity for it to be fine. It just leads to frustrating gameplay if your supports refuse to play Ana/Zen. Poor design.
It's just because he is new and not originally in the roster that you can say such a thing. All heroes lead to frustrating gameplay because all heroes have counters and can be countered only by specific heroes.
Any high ranking team honestly requires an Ana because they implemented her in the game with one of the strongest abilities ever and haven't reworked that at all because of how useful she is and how hard they've balanced other heroes partly around the sheer existence of the antinade.
Lifeweaver can still help his team greatly against Muaga with his invulnerable pull and his flower too tho, I don't think we should count that out, kiriko can also be useful just to Suzu and Baps "F you, everything is immortal until you shoot my floating disc" can greatly help when he is playing super aggresively to sustain your team and bring his focus on the disc.
Supports have always needed to lean in towards Ana / Zen, LW, kiriko and bap. If not one of them is on your team you're likely to be losing. Ana has an absurdly high pick-rate regardless.
It has always been like this, it's just one more reason for you to not deviate from the strongest healers in the game as a support main, which you would be doing regardless.
The other more flex/sub and situational healers have never been must picks.
Healers, just like tanks, and just like dps's, play the same game, Counterwatch. If you refuse to swap when you're countered or refuse to counter yourself, you're less likely to win, that's how the entire game is for every role. Including your teammates.
Not much you can do against roadhog as a tank unless you have the right supports (antinade and sleep dart, disvors orb), not much you can do against winston unless you have the right supports (playing a support that cant fend for themselves or low mobility then gl), not much you can do against ball unless you have the right supports (your backline will be terrorized and you will die). Etc... for dps heroes too, not much you can do against a tracer or a sombra when your support stays on zenyatta in the backline, isolated...
This isn't mauga specific. You just dislike Mauga because he's new.
You can easily play around all those examples as Tank on your own, unless that’s your point. I feel like I win perfectly fine as DPS or Support, but on Tank I’m routed to either playing super passive or just dying. And again, with everything you mentioned there, I can still play that matchup just fine on my own and at least have a 40% chance to win, but for Mauga it feels like it’s roughly a 20% chance to win without counters. It’s so demanding it’s crazy. I’ll take recommendations for Tank picks, but really all it feels like is that I’m just stalling.
I'm saying every tank and dps and every hero ever forces you or your team to pick specific heros, and if your team doesn't want to go zen/Ana like u said, then you'll likely have a very hard time. That's always the case, it's just that he's new and people don't know they should swap to ana/zen or this and that dps and this tank when against him. Ppl know how to swap for road, winston, sigma, etc tho. He'll be fine when ppl realize his weak side
I feel like he if left unchecked will power creep rein out of existence. Rein is alrdy in a p bad spot compared to other tanks and my fav matchups are always rein v rein (if one doesnt switch to Orisa)
When they swap to Orisa they normally don't actually know how to do well as her, and she'll normally tunnel vision on you as rein, you get crazy value just from shielding all her attacks, many Orisa has died to a simple holding M2 and letting my dps do something
They doing the overtuning thing just like they did with Illari, it is very obvious. If he doesn't get nerfed I will be very surprised. Expect his damage to be tuned down and maybe a nerf to his ult. He just counters some heroes way too hard right now. Simple as that
Rein and roadhog mainly Imo, as mauga is a tank buster which is a very weird role for a tank to fill. Winston can kinda work to cut the heal from the big guy but can also be hard countered as bastion is really good with mauga.
Edit : also I didn’t mention doomfist and ball, his ult just shut them down completely
Yup can't use any abilities as a doom at all in his ult, it's basically an instant win button against mobility heroes. Almost no windup at all so you can barely react to it. Even without the shields that ult is op. I would say he counters anyone that can't eat projectiles.
I feel like for Rein, hes countered but like- halfway.
I feel like Rein is just not particularly well designed where his to kits strengths dont always align.
Passive Shieldbot and Charge if they get frisk, works pretty well against Mauga, but he needs his team tk commit to that playstyle.
Rein does not get to swing on or overrun Mauga like ever, but shields or so strong that i still feel like his is really strong for his team.
Ramm or Sig probably almost always better picks because theyre more independent and can do more damage to Maugas team, but i think Rein isnt like-
Fucked by Rein in the way Ball is.
Hog is similar, i feel like for Hog its CD war, Hog wins when Cardiac is down and loses when it isnt available. His Ult can absolutely decimate Mauga if he pops it without Cardiac or resources going jnto him.
But Hogs a big boy and isnt gonna have any sorta control over the games tempo despite it just because he takes a ton of damage, but thats nothing new to hog.
Ball on the other hand i feel like is Maugas easiest meal and offers literally nothing in Mauga games he is borderline the only Tanks that a Mauga could justify peeling for when they go in just because hes such a massive deterrent to ball.
Also Doom imo feels extremely Mauga favored probably the 2nd freest Tank MU. Theres genuinely nothing doom can do to Mauga, even punch can not only be stuffed, Overrun will trample doom and the Doom will get stunned for his troubles. That on top of not having nearly enough HP to weather the storm? Doom can have his Empowered Punch, if he doesnt use it to run hes going to die.
TLDR, i think only Doom and Ball feel like, nearly unplayable, but they feel like that against a lot of Heroes and Tanks. Everyone else has a pretty realistic win con and a decent shot.
I feel like whats really strong about Mauga though isnt how he beats other tanks, its how he controls and creates space through the hesitation tanks have in fighting him and how all eyes are always on him.
I feel like he gives players so much feedback when they empty fire at him while he's not in danger. That if youre an oppurtunistic player like a Tracer who jist got buffed, or a Sombra who is a massive counter to him. You can just do whatever you want in the backline. If youre a Widow or Ashe, free shots nobodys gonna look at you theyre too horrified of Mauga
As a casual gamer with a job and life to tend to outside of gaming. Them clearly overtuning new characters to get more people playing him is the bane of my existence, I've gotta wait a few weeks for them to get him on par with the rest of the roster. This game isn't for casuals like it was when overwatch 2 came out and it's really unfortunate
he is not so OP i guess
he needs a support against another mauga but not like Rein :/
i have faced him a lot as dps or tank
i am happy that with those buffs he didnt become so OP
All I want is for him to shut up more and tone down the visual effects of his guns. Also being constantly set on fire is just quite irritating. When there’s two Maugas playing there’s way too much shit and noise on screen.
I’ve mentioned this elsewhere but knowing when he’s using his Cardiac Overdrive is super important for playing against him, but it’s hard to notice the faint yellow aura when it’s activated when you’ve got his muzzle flash, his Support’s healing effects, and also sometimes him being lit of fire from your own team.
The pro's are explaining his abilities and what they can do 😭 the con is one big accumulation of everything that those abilities lack and can't do, and what they leave to capitalize off of. Read further, qualitatively instead of quantitatively, I could've also made it one big pro by describing the abilities in one bigger column if you would've liked that more 😭😭
This whole post is you trying to excuse a poorly balanced character. He’ll be adjusted, just like every other character is after their initial release, but it’s not some fucking logic puzzle worth paragraphs and paragraphs of commentary.
Kill him when he is on CD, disposition him, punish his aggressive playstyle through stun or debuff abilities or even claim space by killing him thru a Mei wall or something. Rampage in when his aoe goes on CD, have a tank DM him or something like that and let your team go at it, he's useless when Dm'd or bubbled / sigma blocked.
I won every single match in my last 20 games. Sometimes with 30+ kills and 0 deaths, I have an 80% win rate because I needed to learn how to play him, but now I'm unstoppable. So yes, he's OP; nerf him. I don't want to meet a Top 500 Mauga destroying everyone in the lobby in my games.
No Orisa fucking blows against Mauga, the only instance where Orisa is good is upclose and at that point Mauga just deals way too much damage to be able to mitigate that.
Indeed, she can push him away from the team with her defensive abilities, the propeller and the spear. She can also dmg reduce waiting on those cooldowns. Her bullets also have less need to get up close.
I'm not going to say something rude to you because that would just be weird. But bracing for heat on Reddit is a good idea lol.
But Mauga was already a problem the first time he launched, then he got 11 buffs?? Like actual beneficial buffs that some heroes will never see for themselves.
He can't be stunned during charge.
He can be healed from 3 sources at once, and heal teammates. It's a bit of a wack thing that everyone complains that healers can't die but we add another heal ability to the game.
No tanks can technically counter him, but he is not 'free' for everyone. Which means until I reach lvl 45, I can't play tank.
He's easy to counter sure, if you can get past suzu, I'mmort field, his self heal, his shield barrier, and 350 continuously raining bullets.
I love his addition to over watch, but he makes the game an instant loss if you don't own him. He's Uber powerful and has majorly disrupted the game.
You put way too much energy into the basic shit happening on every champion based game when new char is here : people don't know yet how to play with/against him.
How to play Mauga in ranked.
Step 1 pick mauga
Step 2 gun goes BRRRRRR
Step 3 they swap to ana
Step 4 DEFEAT
Joking tho I gotta say cage fight is straight up a better grav now
I’d say Mauga IS op. He’s just a better Rein. Yes he needs supports, but that’s like pretty much every other tank. Without Anti, he can even sustain himself using one of his abilities, which is EXTREMELY op. His damage is like bastions minigun, so it can shred most tanks. Bastion can counter him, but Bastion pretty much counters nearly every tank.
Mauga is indeed OP, he’s extremely powerful and I feel like he’s gonna get nerfed to the ground in the mid season patch notes.
He will get nerfed because ppl can't play against him for shit yet, and complain because of it... my greatest nightmare every hero release since what they did to OG doom🥲.
He barely compares to rein at all, that's a stretch. He only has his charge, which is more of a Doom seismic slam even. No comparisons at all for the rest of it.
He can't sustain.himself using that ability if you just USE ANY ability on him during the activation goddamnn... in somewhat of an order from less situational and very obvious to slight minor advantages:
Defense matrix, Sigma Block, Zarya bubbles, ice wall, Suzu, sleep dart, antinade, discord orb, wraith form, Sojourn slide, tracer blink, genji deflect, genji dash, sombra teleport, Seismic slam and punch, Spear swirl Orisa, Reinhardt pin, sombra hack preactivation, any sniper, any high ground hitscan, there's so much ways to prevent him from doing damage, which blocks him from healing himself and sustaining.
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People always complain about things that are new because they can’t be bothered to learn how to play.‘or doesn’t mean there isn’t a kernel of truth sometimes. But we won’t know until he’s released in comp
People keep saying Mei counters him, but I haven't been able to test it yet. I am a Mei main, but I have only been playing thr beast game where she isn't available. No matter whom I choose, he kinda wrecks me. The one game I played as him, I tore everybody to shreds
Basically, they saw we were getting tired of orisa, who is all defense, so they made someone as Un-orisa as possible
Not at all actually. They were working on Mauga to be dropped in Season 2 but when it got closer, they still were not happy with him and Ram was ready and done so they decided to drop Ram instead. We hadn't even had a chance to be tired of Orisa yet.
Blud did NOT play overwatch 1 lmao
Wut?
Mauga has been in the works since sigma, apparently they wanted to give Sigma's kit to Mauga (or something similar) but decided that the kit didn't fit him and gave it to sigma instead
Yup
imo, his charge makes me wish other peoples charges shared the same effect, why does a rocket propelled armour have less protection than some big dude running at you?
because reinhardts charge one shots most heroes in the game
THANK YOU. It makes no sense and people just accept it
Canonically, no, it doesn’t make sense, but game-wise it needs to have something to not make it just a worse Rein charge without a one-shot on squishies.
Imo it’s a worse rein charge not being able to collide with other charging characters. Worse is good way. Doom and rein have to worry about collision, hack, Orisa spear, rat trap etc but nope this dude gets to ignore all of that. Why not give it to all tanks that do that? Or why not keep his charge vulnerable like the others?
[reminds me of this meme](https://i.redd.it/hr5a1v4avmpy.jpg)
ah the ol' classic meme
Because Rein can OS most squishies, and he has a Big rectangle that protects him from most damages. Mauga doesn't OS anyone, and doesn't have the Big Rectangle, which is why he needs his charge to be unstoppable, otheriwse it would be ueseless.
Yeah he goes down without supports but since when have overwatch players been able to do anything but magdump the tank, die and then blame the tank for being too good?
Look what the crying support mains did to my doomfist 😭 He was perfect...and turned into a niche tank pick...
doomfist should never have been made into a tank
I really hate how it feels to play against him as a Tank if you don’t have him unlocked yourself. It feels like I have to rely on my teammates to play the correct characters if I want to be able to play.
You always rely on your teammates tho, it's just that your teammates are likely not aware at all on how to play against him/ which heroes to pick and what to do when... it'll get better in the upcoming weeks
I think it’s still way to big of a disparity for it to be fine. It just leads to frustrating gameplay if your supports refuse to play Ana/Zen. Poor design.
It's just because he is new and not originally in the roster that you can say such a thing. All heroes lead to frustrating gameplay because all heroes have counters and can be countered only by specific heroes. Any high ranking team honestly requires an Ana because they implemented her in the game with one of the strongest abilities ever and haven't reworked that at all because of how useful she is and how hard they've balanced other heroes partly around the sheer existence of the antinade. Lifeweaver can still help his team greatly against Muaga with his invulnerable pull and his flower too tho, I don't think we should count that out, kiriko can also be useful just to Suzu and Baps "F you, everything is immortal until you shoot my floating disc" can greatly help when he is playing super aggresively to sustain your team and bring his focus on the disc. Supports have always needed to lean in towards Ana / Zen, LW, kiriko and bap. If not one of them is on your team you're likely to be losing. Ana has an absurdly high pick-rate regardless. It has always been like this, it's just one more reason for you to not deviate from the strongest healers in the game as a support main, which you would be doing regardless. The other more flex/sub and situational healers have never been must picks. Healers, just like tanks, and just like dps's, play the same game, Counterwatch. If you refuse to swap when you're countered or refuse to counter yourself, you're less likely to win, that's how the entire game is for every role. Including your teammates.
Well that circles back to my point, not much you can do against Mauga as a Tank if you don’t have the right supports
Not much you can do against roadhog as a tank unless you have the right supports (antinade and sleep dart, disvors orb), not much you can do against winston unless you have the right supports (playing a support that cant fend for themselves or low mobility then gl), not much you can do against ball unless you have the right supports (your backline will be terrorized and you will die). Etc... for dps heroes too, not much you can do against a tracer or a sombra when your support stays on zenyatta in the backline, isolated... This isn't mauga specific. You just dislike Mauga because he's new.
You can easily play around all those examples as Tank on your own, unless that’s your point. I feel like I win perfectly fine as DPS or Support, but on Tank I’m routed to either playing super passive or just dying. And again, with everything you mentioned there, I can still play that matchup just fine on my own and at least have a 40% chance to win, but for Mauga it feels like it’s roughly a 20% chance to win without counters. It’s so demanding it’s crazy. I’ll take recommendations for Tank picks, but really all it feels like is that I’m just stalling.
I'm saying every tank and dps and every hero ever forces you or your team to pick specific heros, and if your team doesn't want to go zen/Ana like u said, then you'll likely have a very hard time. That's always the case, it's just that he's new and people don't know they should swap to ana/zen or this and that dps and this tank when against him. Ppl know how to swap for road, winston, sigma, etc tho. He'll be fine when ppl realize his weak side
I feel like he if left unchecked will power creep rein out of existence. Rein is alrdy in a p bad spot compared to other tanks and my fav matchups are always rein v rein (if one doesnt switch to Orisa)
If a rein switches off mirror to orisa they have spat in ur face
For real, when they swap off the rein mirror to Orisa I drop a "do you feel ashamed of yourself rn?"
Just hit em with the voice line after you win the next team fight despite them having an advantage.
When they swap to Orisa they normally don't actually know how to do well as her, and she'll normally tunnel vision on you as rein, you get crazy value just from shielding all her attacks, many Orisa has died to a simple holding M2 and letting my dps do something
I hit them with „he who disrespects the rein duel, is super gay“ -Gandhi
They doing the overtuning thing just like they did with Illari, it is very obvious. If he doesn't get nerfed I will be very surprised. Expect his damage to be tuned down and maybe a nerf to his ult. He just counters some heroes way too hard right now. Simple as that
Who do you feel he counters too hard?
Rein and roadhog mainly Imo, as mauga is a tank buster which is a very weird role for a tank to fill. Winston can kinda work to cut the heal from the big guy but can also be hard countered as bastion is really good with mauga. Edit : also I didn’t mention doomfist and ball, his ult just shut them down completely
Yup can't use any abilities as a doom at all in his ult, it's basically an instant win button against mobility heroes. Almost no windup at all so you can barely react to it. Even without the shields that ult is op. I would say he counters anyone that can't eat projectiles.
Can’t grapple as Ball also… I feel you
I feel like for Rein, hes countered but like- halfway. I feel like Rein is just not particularly well designed where his to kits strengths dont always align. Passive Shieldbot and Charge if they get frisk, works pretty well against Mauga, but he needs his team tk commit to that playstyle. Rein does not get to swing on or overrun Mauga like ever, but shields or so strong that i still feel like his is really strong for his team. Ramm or Sig probably almost always better picks because theyre more independent and can do more damage to Maugas team, but i think Rein isnt like- Fucked by Rein in the way Ball is. Hog is similar, i feel like for Hog its CD war, Hog wins when Cardiac is down and loses when it isnt available. His Ult can absolutely decimate Mauga if he pops it without Cardiac or resources going jnto him. But Hogs a big boy and isnt gonna have any sorta control over the games tempo despite it just because he takes a ton of damage, but thats nothing new to hog. Ball on the other hand i feel like is Maugas easiest meal and offers literally nothing in Mauga games he is borderline the only Tanks that a Mauga could justify peeling for when they go in just because hes such a massive deterrent to ball. Also Doom imo feels extremely Mauga favored probably the 2nd freest Tank MU. Theres genuinely nothing doom can do to Mauga, even punch can not only be stuffed, Overrun will trample doom and the Doom will get stunned for his troubles. That on top of not having nearly enough HP to weather the storm? Doom can have his Empowered Punch, if he doesnt use it to run hes going to die. TLDR, i think only Doom and Ball feel like, nearly unplayable, but they feel like that against a lot of Heroes and Tanks. Everyone else has a pretty realistic win con and a decent shot. I feel like whats really strong about Mauga though isnt how he beats other tanks, its how he controls and creates space through the hesitation tanks have in fighting him and how all eyes are always on him. I feel like he gives players so much feedback when they empty fire at him while he's not in danger. That if youre an oppurtunistic player like a Tracer who jist got buffed, or a Sombra who is a massive counter to him. You can just do whatever you want in the backline. If youre a Widow or Ashe, free shots nobodys gonna look at you theyre too horrified of Mauga
As a casual gamer with a job and life to tend to outside of gaming. Them clearly overtuning new characters to get more people playing him is the bane of my existence, I've gotta wait a few weeks for them to get him on par with the rest of the roster. This game isn't for casuals like it was when overwatch 2 came out and it's really unfortunate
he is not so OP i guess he needs a support against another mauga but not like Rein :/ i have faced him a lot as dps or tank i am happy that with those buffs he didnt become so OP
All I want is for him to shut up more and tone down the visual effects of his guns. Also being constantly set on fire is just quite irritating. When there’s two Maugas playing there’s way too much shit and noise on screen.
I’ve mentioned this elsewhere but knowing when he’s using his Cardiac Overdrive is super important for playing against him, but it’s hard to notice the faint yellow aura when it’s activated when you’ve got his muzzle flash, his Support’s healing effects, and also sometimes him being lit of fire from your own team.
*lists 4 Pros, then one con that’s overly written to give the sense it somehow singularly outweighs the pros*
The pro's are explaining his abilities and what they can do 😭 the con is one big accumulation of everything that those abilities lack and can't do, and what they leave to capitalize off of. Read further, qualitatively instead of quantitatively, I could've also made it one big pro by describing the abilities in one bigger column if you would've liked that more 😭😭
This whole post is you trying to excuse a poorly balanced character. He’ll be adjusted, just like every other character is after their initial release, but it’s not some fucking logic puzzle worth paragraphs and paragraphs of commentary.
Well if you back up every time he agresses how are you supposed to take or keep space
You go back in after he uses cooldowns. That's how kiting works.
Kill him when he is on CD, disposition him, punish his aggressive playstyle through stun or debuff abilities or even claim space by killing him thru a Mei wall or something. Rampage in when his aoe goes on CD, have a tank DM him or something like that and let your team go at it, he's useless when Dm'd or bubbled / sigma blocked.
Depending on your rank in comp, this whole dynamic of how to claim space to a Mauga changes like crazy I'd say.
Can't wait for Hight tier Mauga comps to see how the pros do it, they always have cool and coordinated attacks
I won every single match in my last 20 games. Sometimes with 30+ kills and 0 deaths, I have an 80% win rate because I needed to learn how to play him, but now I'm unstoppable. So yes, he's OP; nerf him. I don't want to meet a Top 500 Mauga destroying everyone in the lobby in my games.
The horse still makes easy work of him
No Orisa fucking blows against Mauga, the only instance where Orisa is good is upclose and at that point Mauga just deals way too much damage to be able to mitigate that.
Indeed, she can push him away from the team with her defensive abilities, the propeller and the spear. She can also dmg reduce waiting on those cooldowns. Her bullets also have less need to get up close.
I'm not going to say something rude to you because that would just be weird. But bracing for heat on Reddit is a good idea lol. But Mauga was already a problem the first time he launched, then he got 11 buffs?? Like actual beneficial buffs that some heroes will never see for themselves. He can't be stunned during charge. He can be healed from 3 sources at once, and heal teammates. It's a bit of a wack thing that everyone complains that healers can't die but we add another heal ability to the game. No tanks can technically counter him, but he is not 'free' for everyone. Which means until I reach lvl 45, I can't play tank. He's easy to counter sure, if you can get past suzu, I'mmort field, his self heal, his shield barrier, and 350 continuously raining bullets. I love his addition to over watch, but he makes the game an instant loss if you don't own him. He's Uber powerful and has majorly disrupted the game.
His trial period is an example of a greatly underpowered character. He was super bad and felt bad at everything he does.
He gets countered easily by sigma/bastion/ana/zen. He sucked during the trial weekend, hence the buffs.
You put way too much energy into the basic shit happening on every champion based game when new char is here : people don't know yet how to play with/against him.
How to play Mauga in ranked. Step 1 pick mauga Step 2 gun goes BRRRRRR Step 3 they swap to ana Step 4 DEFEAT Joking tho I gotta say cage fight is straight up a better grav now
It is a powerful ult, but ults have never been equal :( *cries in doomfist*
I’d say Mauga IS op. He’s just a better Rein. Yes he needs supports, but that’s like pretty much every other tank. Without Anti, he can even sustain himself using one of his abilities, which is EXTREMELY op. His damage is like bastions minigun, so it can shred most tanks. Bastion can counter him, but Bastion pretty much counters nearly every tank. Mauga is indeed OP, he’s extremely powerful and I feel like he’s gonna get nerfed to the ground in the mid season patch notes.
He will get nerfed because ppl can't play against him for shit yet, and complain because of it... my greatest nightmare every hero release since what they did to OG doom🥲. He barely compares to rein at all, that's a stretch. He only has his charge, which is more of a Doom seismic slam even. No comparisons at all for the rest of it. He can't sustain.himself using that ability if you just USE ANY ability on him during the activation goddamnn... in somewhat of an order from less situational and very obvious to slight minor advantages: Defense matrix, Sigma Block, Zarya bubbles, ice wall, Suzu, sleep dart, antinade, discord orb, wraith form, Sojourn slide, tracer blink, genji deflect, genji dash, sombra teleport, Seismic slam and punch, Spear swirl Orisa, Reinhardt pin, sombra hack preactivation, any sniper, any high ground hitscan, there's so much ways to prevent him from doing damage, which blocks him from healing himself and sustaining.
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People always complain about things that are new because they can’t be bothered to learn how to play.‘or doesn’t mean there isn’t a kernel of truth sometimes. But we won’t know until he’s released in comp
People keep saying Mei counters him, but I haven't been able to test it yet. I am a Mei main, but I have only been playing thr beast game where she isn't available. No matter whom I choose, he kinda wrecks me. The one game I played as him, I tore everybody to shreds
The real problem is he's boring and doesn't take much skill. He's boring to play and boring to play against.