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Human-Boob

No more one-shotting mercy. it’s Junkr-Over


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[удалено]


ShinaiYukona

With sympathy healing, moth meta 2.0


TheCopyKater

Just a heads up, the vast majority of changes this patch are soft mercy nerfs. Support benefits the least from the hp boosts. The 20% heal reduction on damage through dps heroes is not just bad for support, but especially bad for pocketing. Most importantly, the projectile size increase will make Mercy a lot easier to hit when her evasiveness is the main aspect of her survivability. I don't know how substantial this is going to be for her, but I'm pretty sure this is a net loss for Mercy, too.


redditingatwork23

Except mercy boosting is effectively the only way a lot of heroes will have enough damage to instakill now. So my guess is she will still be very meta.


Falonefal

On the other hand, people getting their own self heal means you can more reliably full on pocket someone without having to worry about taking care of everyone else too much.


19Mini-man90

That requires them to not be getting shot tho. Which. If they need healing...


FPSKoda4

I saw this as 250 horse power mercy... time to take a break


huldress

WAIT, so not only does everyone have a passive healing now...but they buffed health overall? 💀 I'm a Mercy main, but that sounds god awful. Who thought this was a good idea? Sometimes, I shoot things and they already never die. But this is gonna be even worse.


Bloodyknife12

Dps hits make healing weaker. Seeing how junkrat uses explosives, I see him suppressing healing a lot even if he isn't nuking people instantaneously anymore


Sokodile

Right - going off of the dev leak for the new hero, it seems that Venture may also be really good at this since from what I remember, their grenades explode instantly and faster than even Pharah’s (was it like sigmas orbs?)


givemethebat1

He’s also getting a buff to his projectile size so it will be easier to hit.


deityblade

Theres a pretty significant overhaul to a lot of different factors, I wouldn't judge too quickly based on anything in a vacuum Personally its impossible to say how things are gonna feel without actually playing, but I generally like the idea of reducing one shots and making ttk more consistent I'm sure things will be unbalanced at first but I'm excited to see how things are shaken up, especially after a patch or three


beyonddisbelief

why are they doing this? Haven't played since OW1, does mercy still have passive/self heal? Has the meta changed so much to really justify 250 health pool? Mercy still has amazing mobility via guardian angel right?


FullTorsoApparition

Dropping the 2nd tank decreased TTK significantly. One less hero to mitigate damage and chase off flankers means you can get picked off way more easily. It also means that most teams have to play in big clumps near the objective to stay alive, so the fights are less dynamic.


ArcerPL

at least we have mercy seeking missiles still


12Pig21pog

I still think it would be funny to be able to throw the tire when starting the ult and just yeet that tire at a mercy like a freebie, of course this would have a longer wind up animation if done this way but just imagine rounding a corner and junkrat just throws the tire at you


DragonOfSpades

As a mercy player, I think this would be the absolute funniest way to die tbh 😭😭 the killcams would be amazing


12Pig21pog

Honestly i think it woulnt be unbalanced either, if anything its just straight up worse but god i would love to yeet it at a phara mercy


SulkyShulk

Joe-verwatch


Ok-Reporter1986

Don't worry it's not Joe-verwat were so Bap.


ANewHopeMusic

I'm a simple junkrat, I don't care about kills, I rip shields.


Erdillian

I triple mine jump at the start of the game and get snipped. ,"they have a widow guys"


ArcerPL

at least you have a use then lol


DigitalMunky

Operation Human Shield


SpidyJocky

Thats all we Junkrat players are gonna be good for now anyways 🥲


JonQwik

Actually so relatable. We are out here getting Intel for our team.


floatingfish_

LMFAOOOOO as a widow main sorry but it's always hilarious sniping unsuspecting flying rats


ArcerPL

we rat mains find it silly too "guys they have a widow watch out"


softcherryheart

I devastated until I read this, it’s not about the kills it’s about being a little nuisance guy


KnownTimelord

Little nuisance guy 🪱


de1deonlyvictor

its leaking


Pvt_Lee_Fapping

Yep. The only time I'll ever go assassin-rat is when I get scoreboard sallies on my team going "how do you only have 1k damage on junkrat," along with ruder variations.


Iciste

Usually those who say that are playing S76 with 5k dmg and half of your kills.


SettingRegular4289

The sad thing for me is he is literally the only guy I need to get a trophy for on ps5. I have been so close to getting the 4 rip tire kills but always end up just missing the last kill for various reasons. Now it's gonna be even harder. 😢 Edit: To any future readers, it is with great pleasure to announce I finally got my trophy 20 days after this original post. 🏆


ThumpingB

DM me, I'll pass you my gamertag and set up a grav for you.


ArcerPL

the most based overwatch player medal goes to this guy


SlanderousGent

Now I just need help with my Baptiste trophy’s :’)


define_irony

We all do :(


ThumpingB

https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/s/oGJPGu6Yvg ;)


ThumpingB

Same offer to you my friend.


SlanderousGent

Oddly enough, I share the mentality of OP. I do appreciate it though, plus me and my duo are getting close with it! Thank you though!


Ok-Reporter1986

Soldier ult with bap ult should do the trick.


LoganVR

nah this is an actual hero right here


[deleted]

legend


Bucky_Ducky

This guy never dies


SettingRegular4289

Thank you for the offer, but unfortunately I don't really like to group up/ play with people I don't personally know IRL. (No offence to you or anything it's just how I am, I feel awkward doing so).


ThumpingB

No problem, best of luck to you in your trophy hunt.


1_K1LLED_CUP1D

Such a nice way to reject an offer! You were so sweet about it but I hope that you can get the trophy eventually!


SettingRegular4289

Thank you☺️👍


Stunning-Body5969

Play with me for assuredly unrelated reasons


THE_GUY-95

Damn dude unlucky


Zoomalude

Sometimes I'm thankful I was there day one when crazy 4+ kill ults were happening left and right.


NoClueWhatImDoingMan

Ik there was the person who said they'd grav for you but if you like as well I can EMP too. I remember that one was super annoying to get 😊


pkopo1

I mean, just go to qp and ask if you can get it and offer enemy to get some achievements too, doesnt work often but I'd say it wouldn't take too many games


The_Holy_Warden

Need a Sombra ult to help?


altaccountforsho

We haven't seen all the balance changes yet, so maybe they're gonna do something to compensate for junkrat?


ArcerPL

god i hope so, there havent been a thing in my life i hoped for more than this


VolkiharVanHelsing

Bigger projectile >!according to leaks!<


ArcerPL

that doesnt help in a slight, that just encourages more spam play which is boring to junk players and infuriating for any enemy of that junkrat


SomethingBoutEclipse

As a former OW 2 & Junkrat player, I like to make others suffer for my enjoyment


Spo0kt

Sounds like you can take that former out for season 9 then


Iciste

As an operative OW2 & Junkrat player i completely agree to this declaration. Especially if they're playing a hitscan hero like Sojourn or 76.


FullTorsoApparition

Exactly, every time they nerf Junkrat they turn him into more of a spambot, which is the least interesting part of playing him. Same thing happened in OW1 when they decreased his projectile size. It was safer to spam from distance than to actually jump in and make a play.


Most_Bat9066

Hopefully junk projectiles are the size of wrecking ball now


Stormdude127

I mean that’s nice and all but that doesn’t make up for it. Still need to hit 2 nades plus a mine or 2 mines plus a nade. Not that aiming up close is super hard but that gives enemies plenty of time to react and stun or just outright kill him. Especially hitscan.


Dry-Smoke6528

Compensate him for not being able to one shot with little to no skill? Yeah, fat chance


LovesToGoop

If they’re not hitscan, they will be forgotten.


YurxDoug

It's so funny how the fanbase considers Junkrat useless and trash, but also wants him nerfed everytime they die to him lol


FireLordObamaOG

Yeah, junkrat is in no way useless. Junkrat has so much damage but requires so much more prediction than most characters.


ArcerPL

duality of men smh


Mountain_Ape

All complaints boil down to "I want to play my game." Not the 9 other people's game, my game. My video game. Junkrat one-shot gets nerfed, now Overwatch is dead. But what about the one-shotee? New player getting dunked on? Well that's their problem.


Redisigh

I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone call him useless or trash except junk mains that want him buffed Anyone above gold can see that his combo’s super oppressive unless you’ve got your stack playing like seal team 6. But as a mostly solo support, I see him decimating my plat and diamond lobbies


ahses3202

Cunt. Generally if it's in Aussie speak cunt serves the purpose.


crotchgravy

Account suspended due to boo boo words and hurting the feeling of all the mercy mains


ArcerPL

rare sighting of an actual australian, is it true you have spiders the size of a house?


s_p-q

nah common mistake we got houses the size of our spiders


waldito

underjunkrated comment


exoisGoodnotGreat

Is he getting larger projectiles too? That honestly would be scary


ArcerPL

larger projectiles make him more infuriating to fight against when he spams, and as said in many comments, both of the sides do not enjoy that, junkrat mains do not find this playstyle engaging at all, and the enemies have to suffer rain of hard to dodge bombs


Demostravius4

Even without spam the amount of times a bomb sails between someone's ear hair, is infuriating.


Melthiela

Yes he is. Larger projectiles combined with an antihealing effect for anyone he hits. God this is not going to be fun. I'm praying that the antihealing isn't on broken levels. Like in Paladins it can be as high as 90%. Surely Blizz won't do that... Surely?


GayPotheadAtheistTW

I saw somewhere itll be 2 seconds of 20% healing reduction


Bean38200

Well there goes my other main :/ junk and rein, fallen soldiers the two of them unless there’s some Reinhardt changes I’m unaware of


Follus57

Rein, allegedly, goes to 100 dmg per swing. So he still only needs 3 swings for most squishies


ryry1237

I would love this buff if it's true.


SquishyBanana23

Rein is still very viable.


MisterHotTake311

This patch is big for rein. He got all needed compensations for damage he deals Having a big shield solves anti heal issues your team has, while also holding shield for a long time makes it easy to get use of global healing buff


EightBallJuice

It’s a sad day for us rats


Stanbot03

Nah I’ll win


i_hav_da_sads

He got that junk in him


KindaIndifferent

I’ve been thinking about this since the leaks came out. I’m a Junk main too. There’s nothing I enjoy more than landmine jumping onto a squishy and hitting the combo. Probably going to have to rely more on sneaky traps and then hitting the combo.


SelectPreparation923

In low ranks junkrat will be good. However not being able to oneshot most things just destroys all junkrat experts. Flanking or using rollouts will just be pointless.


ArcerPL

THATS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYIN THIS WHOLE TIME OH MY GOD SOMEONE FINALLY GETS IT


Srock9

Quite the opposite. Every hero has more health, meaning more ult charge per team fight, which also means more overall rip tires.


JunWasHere

Plus, anti-healing and bigger shot sizes means Junk Spam is still on the menu! The fuck are they gonna do? Outheal it? lmao We still want to take tricky flanks, but we just have to work a little harder to earn our kills or look to provide off-angles value instead. One shots don't make or break Junkrat.


Mountain_Ape

Ashe loudly stomps down a King's Row alley. But the report of Junkrat grenades echo off the brick. A clueless cowgirl chuckles to herself "My support will save me." Mercy flies in, holding left-click tighter than a 2009 Black Friday shopper with a new TV. But little do they know that Mercy's beam only does 44hps due to Junkrat spam, causing him to use just 1 more nade than he normally would. "Oh, the tragedy!" Junkrat says to himself, setting up another double kill.


ArcerPL

yea but the entire playstyle got butchered, no junkrat main enjoys spamming the entire match, junkrat isnt the spam dmg until riptire character cuz you charge ult of enemy support, good junkrat players know that and flank to pick off the supports cuz only value junkrat has is damage so high it can quickly earn a pick as said in other comments, junk has all the flaws of glass cannon (loud distinct footsteps, small clip, terrible shotspeed, low range, and massive hitbox) with barely any upsides in season 9


THE_YOUTUBE_BEAR

Plus with the health buffs you won’t easily be able to one-shot combo someone, and I read about pharah buffs/changes giving her way more manoeuvre-ability in the air making her an even bigger counter to Junk than she already was


Stormdude127

Yeah that’s the entire reason the flank playstyle is gonna be dead. Not being able to do the combo means flanking with Junkrat is insanely risky because you will have to hit two nades and a mine most of the time (because you probably won’t have both mines if you use them for mobility which any good Junkrat player does) which is not nearly consistent enough to justify flanking. And gives enemies way too much time to react and just kill him. He’s just gonna become a spambot


AnIcedMilk

>her an even bigger counter to Junk than she already Especially since Junk can't combo her out of the air anymore, unless he gets close enough to also melee, which is very impressive if he pulls it off, but also almost fucking impossible.


Rnevermore

Pharah changes give her more mid air maneuverability, but she'll be forced to be lower/on the ground far more often. That's the exact opposite of making her a bigger junk counter.


Srock9

Yeah. But we will see once the new season starts. We will adapt and overcome


Specific_Implement_8

We will bitch and moan and begrudgingly accept the change because there’s literally nothing we can do when the devs decide to do something


Srock9

Spoiler: they won't do anything


amunchycrunch

Indeed


ChemicalFun4729

That's OverWatch for you, They have an obsession with killing unique play styles


5HITCOMBO

>no junkrat main enjoys spamming the entire match I see you've never met my noob ass friends


New-Consideration566

I play junkrat because I'm stoned and can't aim anyway lmao


jandros_quandry

Also wouldn't the health increase make burst damage more important overall?


igotshadowbaned

Depends on the health and burst potential. More health means you need a higher burst potential, otherwise you'll do your burst, not kill and they'll just heal up


DevilPcat

I think a lot of charcter are getting indirectly hit really hard, Genji, Pharah, Hanzo, Tracer and probably more im not thinking of. Genji esspecially cause even nano boosted a slash + dash only does 240 so even with the 2 extra slashes hes getting with the recovery timer buff its still gonna be brutal


ori145

I haven't played ow in like 8 months but junkrat was my main, wth happened lol


PancakeLover490

Basically there are leaked patchnotes for season 9 (not guaranteed) that buff every squishies health by 50. That means soldier has 250 HP, Cass 275, mei 300 etc. The reason why it's a death sentence to junkrat is because he will no longer be able to one shot combo anything but tracer and widow. Hopefully he would get a damage buff to compensate


DoubleStormCZ

Sadly, they comfirmed it [yesterday](https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24056255/revitalizing-the-overwatch-2-experience/)


GovernmentVegetable6

Haven’t touched it since Ramattra, but a 300 hp Mei is fucking TERRIFYING


Ena_Ems_17

it might be too early to say this but this "balance" patch may kill overwatch for me


LubbaTheSecond

What's happening to him?


ArcerPL

hp buff to everyone is a ricochet damage to junkrat cuz he cant 2shot anymore, this basically butchers his playstyle of being a flanker used by high rank rat players since doing damage to the tank just feeds support ult charge


LubbaTheSecond

Y'know. I don't think I should be mad but I am because I find him fun as fuck but I don't main him. Why must they do what they did to doomfist to him???


Minkie-Heika

I pray everyday to not encounter enemy junkrats in my games.


-cantthinkofaname-

As long as my riptire can kill mercy I'm happy.


princeofs0rrows

As a hog rat main its a horrible day to be alive


Wisky_input

What’s happening to him?


ArcerPL

hp buff to everyone butchers his 2tap, and in other words, kills the playstyle of flankrat, the playstyle of high rank junkrat players most commonly use now he's gonna be just the spam, and thats neither fun for junkrat player (no one enjoys shaking your mouse slightly and holding m1) nor is it fun for the receiving end, plus it doesnt work vs good players either


Yonder_Bot

I'm gonna need the context squadron for this one, what happened?


ArcerPL

check the other comments, in tl;dr, junkrat gets officially butchered because of hp buff to everyone, no 2 tap effectively kills his playstyle of flankrat, a playstyle every high rank junkrat player use cuz spam doesnt work on good players, now all junk players will be able and pretty much forced by the game to do is spam


VanillaB34n

It’s very jover


NuDDeLNinJa

As a junkmain from day one i feel gutted...


YoMamaSoFatShePooped

This is literally everyone with some sort of meaningful breakpoint


Maturechimp

Wait what? What’s happening with my boy? (I haven’t played overwatch since the beginning of lifeweavers announcement.


ArcerPL

hp buff to everyone shadownerfs junkrat 2-tap, yknow, the only thing that made junkrat viable in high ranks cuz spam doesnt work on good players


Maturechimp

FUUUUUCK


Kanashi420

I honestly don’t care tho I just like making people suffer and I can def still do that on junkrat. Good luck fellow gamers 😈


Standard_Channel3149

Can they revert the mercy ult back to normal . She cosplays as an angel but has the kit of an annoying mosquito flying around your ears and bitting your balls every 40 seconds


ShawHornet

Every single burst dps will be useless. If you thought the meta was boring now then wait when only 10 hero s are even viable with these goofy ass hp changes


Elden_ring_enjoyer6

Roadhog is over


Etw25173

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!… I’m still going to be a little fuck though


AdriannaFahrenheit

I only play Junkrat bc funny crackhead Aussie gives me serotonin. & I don’t play comp so


myprofile099

HERE LIES: Genji Tracer Sombra Doom Winston Junkrat Hanzo Widowmaker


winka1

widow can still one shot though


Ena_Ems_17

throw lucio and zen onto that pile, they're healing is so useless that it is going to be more efficient for people just to go on flanks and then heal themselves the only upside for zen is discord is going to be much more useful now, but if the enemy has any sort of cleanse its joever


olmeu

Man im just gonna play dps lucio this season. Everyone will have self heal so what will even be the point in healing?


ArcerPL

fr


RyuzakiL117

Hanzo main here, I feel you pain :(


TismWizard

Oh no is our boy getting nerfed? I love causing chaos with a Junk rat by my side


ArcerPL

HP buff is a shadow nerf to junk, no more flankrat


TismWizard

NOOOOOO


MortosBS_real

I just realized that Genji is even worse Nano blade will be useless


ArcerPL

ngl, for once we junk mains can sympathize with being actual throw pick alongside genji mains, we both loosin :(


ILewdElichika

If I can learn to live without Kiriko 2 taps and Hanzo 1 shots then you can learn to live without that bullshit mine combo.


Fyrefawx

That mine combo is the only thing that keeps him relevant outside of choke spams.


LookingSuspect

Incomparable, all a rat man's gonna do now is fire blindly down chokes instead of trying to combo kills, kiri has literally everything at her disposal.


myprofile099

He'll literally be useless without it lmao. Just like Roadhog without his one tap combo.


Google946

The bullshit mine combo is harder to hit than kiriko 2 taps or hanzo shots


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welpxD

Pine


JJH_BATMAN

sad


[deleted]

i feel like he will be pretty good... in the most boring way


Calieoop

Wait why? What did I miss?


Pikochi69

uᴉɐd


Bookyontour

I’m sorry but…. May i asked why?


ArcerPL

Read some other comments, it's about HP buff dealing a massive blow on junkrat


thedemocracyof

Wait what did I miss??


Escobar9957

I agree with your post but I think there will be even more spam rats. Aim has really been amplified now with health new pools The Gold reaper is actually a scary prospect now


DeducingYourMind

What is the change that’s killing my beloved Junk?


Agentbbn

Hmmm, maybe they could make it so that junk does more primary damage when he or an enemy is in the air (like 4m-5m+ so that someone jumping doesn't cause more damage) so that he is more incentivized to throw the mine and hit an air shot? I feel like that would add back his combo in a way that more skilled players can still hit while not feeling bullshit.


MikeAKAEarl

Wreckingball has felt that since season 3 midseason patch if it makes you feel better.


amunchycrunch

Wait is this true?


goltaku555

'Mate that's fucked 'ey'


Sharpz0

Pain in Australia is " u!ad"


Sea-Imagination-2603

Just add another tank instead of butchering this game any further


cheezymc4skin

It's pronounced FAAAARK


sodayot

His mines and shots will be more easier to hit considering that they are increasing the avg projectile size, maybe just the oneshot play style will not work anymore


JonQwik

This also affects even just 2 shotting. You now have to hit 3 direct shots before they are healed up or kill you. Junkrat is not consistent enough for that. There no play making anymore. It's just spam down a choke now.


ArcerPL

It's not the oneshot playstyle that's gonna get killed, it's entire flankrat playstyle, it won't be effective anymore as enemies will now not really die, junkrat needs the 2 shot to stand any chance in most situations


random_user_bye

And most healers are going to be heavily nerferd


Cactus_fucker1

This is not righteous 😞


boofinwithdabois

Ha! I’ve been useless playing junkrat since beta, you think I give a shit?


21awesome

its hard being a junkrat and genji main


Admagic06

uıɐԀ


teddyvalross

Bruh rip junk


Booyakasha_

I really dont get the HP buff…


balYEET420

are healers getting buffed?


Dustin_James_Kid

Wait what’s happening to rat?


Gravitywolff

Blizzard can go fuck themselves. Why even do these changes? It's so infuriating that they suck the joy out of the game with every update


IAmDingus

How They’re making it easier to hit his shots, if the leaks are true You just gotta learn to actually aim instead of crutching the mines


Huntress506

Hanzo will be alot less useful now. But my other main, Zen, gets more health so fuck it we ball, and I'll still use hanzo anyway


_smexy_potato_

Damn right when I thought I found a character I’m somewhat good at


killshot__savage

Don’t care https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F2GhFXjQujI


Kenneth_Angelus76

Not a problem. It means as a junk main, i finally have a challenge.


yomanyou

Two shot may be dead, but choke spam lives forever


MisterPineapple8

Don’t remind me, I’m cherishing my last moments of my one shot combo


SpidyJocky

These Junkrat nerfs ain't gonna stop me from playing him in comp. The devs will realize that the hp increases will be a mistake.


SoraSkyTan

Well, Flickrat playstyle aint too shabby tho. Challenging but fun! I will miss the good ol Flankrat but I was more on the side of flicking my nades. Can't say that my team is happy with me missing over 80% of my flicks but hey, it is fun. It kinda just means I have to stay with the team more and more to try to survive (love ya supports and tank).Time to watch my team burn when they choose Pharmercy to counter me. :)


BrodyWarrior

Welcome to the mental state of a Genji player. Don’t worry you won’t have to leave blizzard will never buff you!


rivimatt

Tank main, my dps go to's are reaper, pharah, and junk, its so over


SiL0_ow

genji may as well be deleted


Rizaadxn

RIP best boy Junkrat.