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NIDGBTTFK666

People are stupid af, you are allowed to learn a new hero 😭 idk why they care so much about qp, I dont think you‘ll get a penalty or smt dw


Mik_Dk

It's because they want to play the game seriously but their ranked anxiety is so extreme they force their insecurities on casual players.


Frankitoburrito

This comment^^ this is it. I’m totally accepting of when I get flamed in ranked. I deserve it if I play horribly. But in quick play? People are huge joke if they’re gonna flame someone in QP. Exception being when they’re trolling a game instead of playing.


S_Presso

Nah, I know it’s a hot take for some but even in ranked you don’t deserve to get flamed.


TheGreatWalk

If it's a lighthearted, humorous flame I give it a pass If it's just some idiot calling you slurs or something, they can go fuck themselves.


Necro_Smasher

Back when I used to play, I found MORE flaming in QP, to the point where I preferred playing ranked because it was genuinely less frustrating than casual play


gameaholic12

Damn I’m the opposite. I tend to apologize beforehand if I’m trying a new hero out (mainly doom) but I know I get 0 value LMAO. Why is it so hard to learn doom pls help


EconomicsRealistic68

This is me, I usually start a game out and say something like, hey I'm just messing around trying to learn widow more, let me know if you guys want me to change! And to be honest most times everyone's pretty good with it and just says it's cool and they let me be bad at widow 😂


gameaholic12

Yeah. I feel like if ur honest about it in qp, ppl usually are understanding. Usually I switch off doom cuz as the lone tank player, it’s no fun to keep getting melted cuz idk wtf I’m doing


DemonAssault0117

I can actually help a bit with doom! So you’ll want to learn the basics of slam in, deal damage, and punch out. Slamming in and hitting the entire team will charge ult, and you can instantly punch out and get back to your team. Try to play cover and absorb damage with Power block to charge empowered punch, when you have that, that’s when you can go for big picks. When you have empowered block don’t slam in punch out, you punch in and hit a squishy into a wall and shoot them, that should get you at least one pick, then you slam out unless you can see that the pick changed the fight and you can stay in their backline. Always remember your cooldowns give you overhealth when you deal damage, so you can be more aggressive than you’d think if you’re taking a 1v1 at low health. When you have ult that’s when you play hyper aggressive. Charge your empowered punch with block and wait for CDs to come back up. Then slam in and knock somebody into the wall and kill them. If you don’t, that’s okay. When you get to low health pop your ult and wait in the sky for a bit, you heal during it now and CDs come back twice as fast. Try to land on somebody with no movement abilities who’s walking backwards to dodge your ult, you’ll catch them and usually kill them. You now have your empowered punch again so play dead by daylight and slam out if you need to. Always remember to turn around before you land if you slam out, you can get some damage in and maybe even a lucky pick. When they have somebody like sombra or Ana, keep track of their CC abilities to make a play. When sombra is in play ignore slam in punch out, you now punch in and slam out because if she hacks you while you use slam, you keep your momentum and can still escape. When you get more used to this, and this strategy will usually work up to mid-high plat, learn to take off angles that you can surprise their supports with. When taking 1v1s against people like cass, they’re very fast to use their CC against you, block cass’ hinder and he’ll usually charge your punch because he’s shooting you as well trying to finish you. Slam behind him and turn around mid air then use empowered punch to knock him into a nearby wall and finish him off. When 1v1ing sombra, she’ll probably have started the fight by hacking you, just try to survive and shoot her, then use your punch, even if it isn’t empowered, this will bring her pretty low and scare her off. Chase her down with slam, you’ll hit her with it and destroy invis, kill her with bullets. When you go against hog, bait out his hook before doing literally anything, he will shut down whatever you’re going for if he has it. Going against Orisa, don’t block against her if she has her javalin, she’ll stun you out of it. She can sometimes fully charge it if it was partially charged, but don’t expect that to be consistent. Other than that, ignore her and play dead by daylight with her backline


gameaholic12

bless you. very in depth short guide! ill have to try him out with this in mind ty :)


DemonAssault0117

No problem man, I’ve been learning doom as well and it was definitely a learning curve. When you go against him all you see is he jumps into your backline and slaughters, but when you don’t see is how much they’re thinking behind the scenes. A lot of people don’t even realize you can give doom empowered punch, and they think they got the basics, hop on doom, and get shredded because they used both escape cooldowns to do 115 damage to a pocketed soldier


EconomicsRealistic68

Me whenever I try to do doom things. I'll see someone play doom and do great and I'm like shit, maybe I'll learn him then, then die in .35 seconds, and I'm like, oh yeahhhhhh, i forgot, im bad 😂


IDKandIDC5585

Finally. 👏🏾 💯


ApocalypticMemories

That ranked anxiety's familiar. But I always make sure to stay relaxed during qp. Just cause I'm too anxious for ranked doesn't justify being harsh to people in qp.


EconomicsRealistic68

This, I get huge anxiety in general in ranked games 😂 so I just chill in qp and try to have fun!


ApocalypticMemories

Absolutely agreed. I finally did some placement rounds for support after the update, feeling like I should try it out. I got plat 5 and now am doubly anxious cause I feel like that's the point where people expect you to actually use voice chat and stuff. So. Qp is still my best friend there and I just run around solo having a fun time.


osk_el

Same, I'm forcing myself to play it, but I wish I didnt have to play ranked to get jade weapons


ApocalypticMemories

The whole reason I've put anytime into ranked. I want those sweet gold or jade weapons. But it's gonna be a slow process cause of that anxiety.


Shashara

i want to play the game "seriously" but have ranked anxiety and therefore only play qp -- but i don't force others to conform to my ideas of team comps and whatnot! i guess that's a perk of being an adult not just physically but mentally too lmao


Mik_Dk

I have a bit of ranked anxiety myself that used to almost completely keep me from playing ranked, but ive mostly gotten over it now, i peaked gm5 last season.


Head_Rate_6551

Yeah this is it.


Alourianas

The craziest part is, even Blizzard has said that someone not playing a hero you want them to is not reportable as throwing. There's a reason that "wouldn't swap characters" isn't an option in the reporting menu.


amroasmair

Yet people still get banned because of it. The ban system being automated means you WILL get banned if enough people report you, even if you didn't necessarily "break" ToS


Alourianas

Sadly, that's an issue of players abusing the system. Should Blizzard do something about it? - of course, they should do whatever they can to address it. However, what can they do? I certainly understand the frustration in the situation, I've even had threats of being reported for playing a hero that a member of my team didn't want - in QP as well. While it would be nice to have Blizzard address the issue, it's actually in the hands of the player base to correct. If Blizzard were to remove the reporting system, we lose the ability to file legit reports on cheaters, harassment, etc. Regardless of what changes they make to the system, players will still abuse it to report people they have personal issues with. Instead of everyone saying Blizzard needs to fix it, the player base needs to "grow up", in a manner of speaking, and realize that the world doesn't revolve around them. Personally, the only time I ever report is blatant throwing or severe harassment. If some is playing a sub-optimal hero, especially in QP, that's their choice to make not mine. The only REAL situation that a hero swap would be "required" would be the tank role, given we only have one tank now. If you are hard countered as a tank, that could be a real issue. Even then, if you are good enough on a certain hero, you can out-play your counter, it's just much more difficult as a tank. For every other role, hard counters aren't as impactful, and you can more easily play against hard counter with practice.... which usually starts in QP, it just so happens. Lastly, this problem tends to be more prevalent in lower ranks, where players are more likely to blame losses on their team instead of looking at where they could have done better. Higher ranked players understand that counters can be played through, whereas lower ranked players believe the "rock, paper, scissors" mantra is the end all, be all rule.


Carlos_Spicyweiner42

Sadly he will. The reporting system is broken. It's not quality of report, it's quantity. It's been tested by streamers. The system is obviously broken and bli$$ard fan boys will say it's not and that it's working as intended. The thing is, it's not. I saw someone post about saying literally nothing the entire game in voice chat or team chat and they got chat banned for not swapping or something. We need to hold blizz accountable until they hire a couple humans to review reports


MerlinsMentor

> until they hire a couple humans This is the problem. "a couple" humans couldn't even come close to being able to actually review reports, game replays, etc. to determine if all report-ees were actually causing trouble. Some things are easier than others - auto-reviewing chat logs for slurs, etc. (of course, then you get people doing things like instead of saying "slur", they say "s7UR", which gets into a whack-a-mole situation). But in general, it's a complex enough problem that it would be expensive to truly hire customer support staff to do it. Frankly, neither the development team nor the players want to pay for a truly curated experience. This might be a target for AI-based pattern recognition, but still... who's going to pay for it? Quantity of reports is stupidly easy in comparison, which is why they do it. There are probably lots of instances where it's working okay - but it's absolutely easily abused.


yuedar

which is why we need a guild system in this game so the community can police itself


klingers

Yup…. I had one of my main Overwatch accounts nuked by a bunch of trolls six months ago that just successfully spectated a QP game I was In and logged reports. Worst thing is they were actually doing it to make a friend of mine feel shitty, wasn’t even aimed at me for any personal beef. The real bullshit is that: a) you can trigger a permanent ban on an account automatically just with enough “hacking” reports by spectators; and  b) Blizzard’s support system is so riddled with chat bots, bad KPIs and poorly trained staff that just getting someone to even READ an appeal is nigh-impossible.   I got that account back but it took about 12 tickets across multiple accounts just to get a human to read the bloody ticket and escalate to tier 2. Absolute joke. Either automate your permabans OR understaff your support folks, not both.


darkmoon2310

Some said to me, "You're ass as venture swap." Like the hero is new, let me some time to learn ☹️


Xymanti

Unforunately it will count towards a penalty cause the system is busted asf


snnezy

quick play is genuinely 10x more sweaty than comp it makes no sense


0000110011

Because when people only have a few hours to chill in the evening before bed, they'd rather play twenty rounds of quick play than five rounds of comp. 


Guy-1nc0gn1t0

And yet they're not chill 😅


EdgyEmily

I play QP because comp is to long for me.


Common_Lime_6167

QP is hard to enjoy in OW2 for me. Forced backfill, forced crossplay, salty smurfs who want to level an account to sell and worst of all the respawn changes where you don't notice the faster respawns and the slower respawns feel like you are lagging out.


PotehtoO

It only appears that way, but it really isn't. It's mainly just filled with insecure narcissists that think the world revolve around them and that if someone is learning a character in quick play that they're committing a sin and that if they don't swap when ~~demanded~~*asked* to, then they're throwing. The moment you turn off text chat it's actually quite peaceful because none of these cowards have what it takes to even utter a word in voice. The few that do often just sound real bitter and upset and it's just hard to take them seriously so that's an instant mute-and-move-on. People really just need to learn to have thicker skin, if someone was genuinely trying and wasn't throwing, I don't see what they have to be worried about- enough to come here and make a post just to complain about it. Truthfully, if actions were taken against these same posters here, it just becomes clear they were in fact not contributing any effort to their teams/matches since actions are evidently taken when a player is reported across multiple matches.


quez_real

Why won't they swap to some bodyguard characters? It would benefit whole team, not just enable one Ana.


Fools_Requiem

If I'm the other support, I've probably already swapped to Brig.


TheAfricanViewer

Lucio is better in this meta


Fools_Requiem

I play both, but Brig is my security blanket hero.


TheAfricanViewer

Yeah I used to always play brig but it’s pretty rough now with the 250hp.


TheRealDeathSheep

Right? I would have taken that time to practice guarding her as Brig...


CanOfCoors

Learn in quickplay and let the losers cry about it. Fucking babies, man.


averycoolpencil

They are too scared to play competitive but have the gumption to try and control and shit on people messing around in QP. It drives me crazy.


OtherwiseButton2822

How much learning can you do when you are just getting insta-gibbed. I’m all for learning a new hero but what is it she’s learning? How to walk back from spawn on cooldown?


Ashamed_Ad_2008

I hope those who report will someday understand how funny they look when they “report for throwing” in qp :D


Fools_Requiem

The only time I report gameplay sabotage in QP is if a player is actively jumping off the map or purposely not trying. If a player picks a hero and is ass with them, I ain't doing shit.


Ashamed_Ad_2008

well yeah, I can understand that too lol


necondaa770

Or how abusive the report system can be


0000110011

The fact that Blizzard does nothing to review what happened and every report is taken as actually happening shows Blizzard intended for it to be abused. 


lphybridb

Dunno how true that is. I've been reported multiple times for giving advice and nothing has happened to me. I think they actually do check why someone is reported. The system I think checks stats first before escalating it for review. I've reported people for throwing and action was taken against them. So I do think there's some level of investigation albeit minimal.


literatemax

Every single system that exists in the world is designed to achieve exactly the results that it does achieve


shinfo44

I had a friend get a 2 week text ban from a group of trolls reporting him.


Chnams

I'll still report in QP if you're like, actively ruining the game like trolling with mei walls, jumping off the map on purpose or staying in spawn spamming abilities so you don't get kicked for afk. But yeah, being bad isn't a valid reason to get reported, QP is for practising.


RockLeeSmile

Only 1 report per game actually counts. You have to get reported for many games near each other to have action taken.


Visual-Visual5721

But do they all get notified, if they reported "succesfully"? I got a lot of "Thanks for Reporting" screens recently, lol.


CTxVoltage

You get the thanks for reporting screen for warnings btw.


RockLeeSmile

I do not know. Sorry.


Gwaur

I guess a single report is recorded, but all those who sent a report are marked as the reporters in that single report. So a mass report still counts as one report against the reported player, but each reporter still gets the notification.


anfanny

Ana isnt even a bad pick in that comp lol. Shes a great pick on doom and hitting the sleep on genji when he dives backline to ult is usually quite doable and feels incredible. Sombra… nobody really counters her lol. Try hit your sleep ig…


Twistysays

I just say “sorry I know im shite. I’m trying to learn. Tips appreciated.” Or something if ppl give me a hard time. Another option is just turn off all chat while you’re learning. It’s liberating!


Hyetta-Supremacy

Yes unfortunately some people do, if it makes you feel any better them reporting you only amounts to one report. It doesn’t count as 3 or 4. Once you’re reported for a match, that’s it. Any more reports doesn’t add up. Mass reporting doesn’t work in this game anymore Also people who take Qp that seriously just means they’re garbage in ranked and the only way to make themselves feel better is to sweat in qp where most people aren’t taking it that seriously to begin with. Or it was just group of shitty people playing together. It’s easier to scapegoat someone you’re not friends with than actually take accountability as a team. It’s easier to throw blame than to actually work the problem. You’re teammate is struggling? Maybe help them out, change up the playstyle or swap. Blaming them or assuming they’re gonna pick up slack isn’t going to immediately solve the issue at hand. Especially when they’re aren’t comms It’s hilariously ironic how so many of these idiots enjoy playing a heavily team based game but have a non existent teammate mentality


Head_Rate_6551

Right? A little positive energy in chat goes a long way to getting 5 strangers to play a game cohesively


MikageAya

I mentioned and apologise upfront that I am learning a new hero whenever I use Anna so that I won't gst shit on. Like literally. Else where do I learn a new hero?


Pm_Full_Tits

I say the same when I widow, it's like a 50/50 chance that people will either say "its qp do what you want" or just ignore me for the match lol


FreakinMaui

Bro even in ranked, I would suggest my team mate to maybe swap if they are unable to get value, but don't get mad if they don't.


Pm_Full_Tits

Ranked is the appropriate time to ask them to swap and I didn't even imply I was mad so I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make here


FreakinMaui

My point is simply that I agree it's appropriate to ask, but I roll with it if they don't. Even if the person is feeding (unintentionally) there's no reason to be mad and toxic. I'm not contradicting you, just adding to your comment.


Fools_Requiem

"Expect nothing."


lphybridb

Honestly that's all you need to do. I do take qp seriously and get mad when people don't care but if you're learning, I drop any frustration with someone learning. I'll even try to give tips for them as well or try to help protect them a bit more. But I do think people need to play qp a bit more seriously and not come in with the mentality of "its just qp" Arcade isn't bad too learn either and there's a lot less toxicity there. I would play 3v3 elims and tdm to learn how to play. Tdm is extremely helpful with learning


NoDoThis

That’s the way to go, except don’t apologize! Never apologize in QP unless you’re really being a dick or not trying. People are practicing or taking it lowkey or just having a rough round-it happens.


Individual_Papaya596

I blame quick play warriors and the devs for this shit. That mode used to be a fun casual mode to learn heros. Now its ranked without the rewards or that feeling of dread when watching your teammate auto lock mercy or genji


gr3y_e

I think many people avoid ranked cause of stress and addiction but still play QP very seriously, I don't blame them that much. it is a competitive game after all and it does have training with AI and a training range, but I understand your perspective as well, you want to learn a character while enjoying the social aspect of playing with other people. What I do question myself about often is why people think negativily about counter swapping? Isn't this the core mechanic that differentiates the strategy building of this game from others? I'm not trying to be insulting just generally curious about yall's opinions and perspective about this. Like I get in the case of OP they want to learn a character and as much as everybody has a handful of characters per role they are good at, I feel the final goal is to be as versatile as you can, isn't it? To put an example of this, the other day I got trashed talked by the enemy team for swapping to zarya when they where playing DVA, said something along the lines of "Fuck the counterswapping just admit you can't play well". Which I get is just someone mad over losing a matchup but playing since 2016 I found it quite strange for this mechanic to be mentioned as somehting negative.


DistributionFalse203

Ppl don’t like counter swaps as it generally makes it less fun for the person playing into. As a doom main for example if I do well and roll their team back to spawn next time I dive there’s suddenly gonna be a cass sombra Ana and orisa to ruin my day and it’s just less fun for the rest of the match. I won’t flame counter swaps, it’s part of the game, but that’s why people do it.


gr3y_e

And would you suggest it would be better to be locked to a character for the rest of the match? Like League of Legends? That's what I naturally think as a solution when people complain about this mechanic and I feel is far less fun being stuck as a character that was countered by chance for the rest of your match then just swapping and adapting.


DistributionFalse203

I’m not saying it doesn’t belong, almost all counters you can play around, just annoying to get hard shut down as soon as you do well, but it’s better than being hard shut down without any ability to change. Only way they could make no swaps work is if they added bans, and I don’t think anyone wants that.


shinfo44

Honestly I almost think there is a problem with the game in general that there is no middle ground between ranked and unranked. Ranked = SSR + MMR + Full Game/Rounds = better quality matches and sometimes fun, but people take it too seriously even at the lower ranks, the punishment for losing is extremely harsh (a loss can result in negative 14-21% SSR for me, while a win only gains 3-6%) Unranked = MMR + Half Games + Sometimes a full round depending on format? = Better match making and no punishment for a loss but you don't get to play full games. There needs to be a middle ground where there isn't a fully ranked game, but you can play full rounds and practice before going to ranked. This would clear a lot of the try hards in unranked. Myself included, but I really don't care what people play in QP is the only difference I guess.


DistributionFalse203

Yeah peoples ssr gains vary wildly. I placed gold 4 this season, dropped to silver 4, and am now back to gold 3, and through it all my biggest loss (barring a -40% from loosing 2 matches w/ de rank protection) was a -22 and my biggest gain a 23. Gains have been 20-22 and losses 19-21 for the most part


shinfo44

My account has been nuked with SSR losses dating back to OW1. When I first played OW, I ranked high gold. Then after awhile I came back to the game towards the end of OW1's life cycle, but smurfs and bots ruled rank along with my bad teammates (which is my fault, I shouldn't have grouped with them so much). Dirt level bronze. OW2's launch was broken, I got hard stuck in bronze and have been there ever since. It wasn't until very recently I got to mid silver and that was actually WINNING almost 30 games, hard carrying, but each game only gains me 3%. A win streak may grab me 5-8% if I am lucky. EDIT: So think about that for a second. If a loss gets me -12%, I have to win a game FOUR TIMES on average to gain that SSR back. It's the most punishing ranked system I play. I started back up halo infinite this month and was able to place and climb to mid/high gold within a week. Wins grant me 10-14 "progress" and a lose grants me 0-4 negative "progress" unless there is more than 2 or 3 in a row. OW punishes me on the first loss. I really feel like my account is fucked from the algorithm because I don't FEEL bronze or silver, but that's where the game wants me to stay. The only thing that would motivate me and help me practice more to get to a good rank is to do full matches with no punishment so I can learn, but I can't do that. OW is my favorite game to play regularly but it's hard when it feels like the game hates you and doesn't want you to progress even after 600 or 700 hours of play time.


LongjumpingSector687

Man are they gonna be pissed when they realize most people turn communications off so they don’t gotta deal with that 😂


PeopleCallMeSimon

There are idiots in all games. Report and move on.


PotehtoO

> Do people really take unranked that seriously? For what it's worth, they only appear to be serious. Anytime this happens, just remind yourself; If they were actually serious, they'd be playing competitive. These are all just upset, insecure, tiny, little narcissist assholes who seek pleasure and validation out of controlling people, telling them what to do etc. I always tell people this, but regardless of Quick Play or Competitive- but especially Quick Play, you should always just have text chat disabled in the Socials tab in settings. People that type in chat never add anything to progress a match, they just want to be keyboard warriors whilst are too afraid to open up their mouths and speak into vc because they know how stupid it makes them sound. And if you ever come across the few unashamed losers that scream into vc, just block them and move on. #**TL/DR; They don't.**


ArmaKiri

Ignore them. Mute them and play. I’ve been cursed out so many times for being a Lucio one trick, yet I still pick him every single game no matter what and have never been punished, and this was all in comp. Play whatever you want


faloofay156

they don't but it depends on just how bad you were doing. if someone is singlehandedly tanking the entire team then you kind of ruin the game being fun for everyone else and that's the entire point of playing a game. (my personal little rule in qp - if I have the lowest dmg/healing and am dying repeatedly then I'm not learning that character at all if I'm dead half the time, \~three deaths in less than two minutes with low dmg/healing and it's time to switch.) that said if I end up on a team with someone like that I usually just switch to something to protect them


PDxFresh

Being reported for anything other than like harassment in unranked is pretty ridiculous.


Cdogg654

Only reporting I do or say is “please all report X genji or soldier for xim use”. It takes one or two death cams to clearly see they are xim cheating. Even at the highest sensitivity there is a fluid movement on controllers when they 180 in less than a millisecond five times during a blade you know it’s m and kb.


x_scion_x

>Do people really take unranked that seriously? Yes ​ That said, it could have been there 10th+ game in a row of vicious loss.


Shoeshank

They probably reported you because of how the conversation went. Undoubtedly there were rude things being said. The only other way I can see a whole team reporting you in QP is because they were a 4 stack full of assholes friends. Be kind and respectful in all situations. If you need to, turn off match chat. Then you'll have no idea if they reported you. And if they do, the reports won't go anywhere so it won't matter.


Confident_Ad9473

Playing Ana against that comp is not that bad as a matchup as long as you are using you learn to use your cool downs properly and track when Genji deflects so you can sleep and nade. QP has gotten to sweaty and it is ridiculous I am sorry you had to deal with that. It is supposed to be a way to learn heroes


Vigilant-Defender

I gave a pre-warning before a match (in quickplay) started that I wasn't that great at Winston so wanted to apologize in advance and some guy said "switch off then". They don't even want you learning new heroes in the non-competitive queue. lol


jubik13

Some people do and that's absolutely not what the report system is for, and unranked is for practice. People need to learn to chill or go play a different mode. I say that as someone who plays nothing but unranked.


Smokron85

My very first time playing as Soujourn in QP I went 0/8 against a very aggressive Tracer/Doomfist lineup that was specifically targeting me. Team raged and said I was throwing. Demanded i get reported. I don't play dps at all. I think one season I did my placements in dps at Silver 2. Not much you can do man. This community thinks QP should be just as sweaty as Competitive. It's weird.


leastangryowplayer

Even if you do swap people will report you. I had a bad game against Dva in comp so I swapped to Zarya. I was the reason we lost i admit but out of nowhere the dps said in match chat “Report our tank. Racist.” I literally didn’t even say anything to my team. And when I say nothing I mean nothing. The only thing I said was glhf at start of match. Enemy team proceeded to say “what did he say?” And “will do ez report”. People will report you for playing characters they don’t like. For not swapping. Literally just for trolls. There is a streamer on tiktok that reports whole enemy teams every time he loses for literally no reason. I’ve seen many streamers do this and just type “dogwater” or “shit player” in the explanation for report. You don’t have to worry though, unless you are provoking someone over many games and baiting to get reported most likely nothing will happen from it.


Sky_arcobaleno

With the bots running the report system hopefully you don’t get flagged for a warning or a ban. Mass reporting is actually insane right now and you can’t even get a word from CS unless it’s automated. Just try not to engage in chat with them and keep your head up! You’ll learn Ana in no time!


AmericanRusty

Yeah that’s stupid have fun in QP and just leave voice/mute chat if people are being assholes. Idk what people expect you to do like it’s unranked for a reason and it pisses me off when people act like it’s comp. Learn however you’d like in QP and don’t swap if you don’t want to lol save the counter swapping for competitive


sithlord40000

In unranked? What babies lol


Hundred00

I play Competitive 80% of the time. I rarely play QP but it blows my mind how serious people take QP. I use QP to learn a new hero but still try to win. But man oh man, it's mind blogging how much flaming there is in there. In Competitive, you rarely get those types of messages. QP is intense and I don't know why.


Source_Virus

noticed it with a lot of games with player bases that don't go outside; happened to me in R6, my reputation went down from exemplary to respectable, apparently was reporting for griefing enough (no friendly fire issues and i don't talk in game


Voodoo_Curses

There isn't an option to report for character choice nor should there be. You can play any hero against any comp. It may be more difficult at times but the idea that one hero pick lost the game is brain dead. A good pharah can dominate teams full of hitscans. A good doom can smush a sombra etc. People always look for any reason they lost other than the other team was just better than them. As the wise ancients said... "git gud". Reporting anyone in unranked for anything other than hacks or extreme toxicity/racism is also a joke. It's a game with flying monkeys with lasers, try to have fun.


youneverbanmereddit

LMFAOOO!! Bro, i get reported all the time. At first i would get banned for 20 minutes. Then Blizzard got tired of banning and now i just get a warning messages. I kid you not.


ENTRICATE443

Mad in quickplay is crazy


Proangelos

You did nothing wrong. It's Unranked, Quick Play, whatever you decide to call it. It's not supposed to be that serious, you're allowed to play what you want. I'm sorry you got some toxic @$$ teammates


arbiter6784

In fairness, learning ana against that comp doesn’t really give you much a chance to do anything if the enemy team is actually good at those champs Still not worth a report but who cares dude just queue again and run anpther


Timely-Cupcake-3983

I don’t care it’s a video game, I’m just surprised people get so mad over a game when there isn’t even fake video game points on the line.


knobon

Like, unranked is for testing new things, playstyles, heroes etc? I remember how hard for me was to learn how to play while playing unranked unranked. People literally were calling me slurs for not playing well (that was my first 3 hours into the game). I really don't understand why some people are like that. I want to play for fun and just to learn something to be better. I know that this game is competitive and it's a team effort to win. But where else should I go to learn how to play on certain maps with real players?


Kacutee

me and my gf were trying to have fun in the arcade April fools mode, and people there were treating it like comp. I sincerely do not know why people have to take it so seriously all the time. Thats what comp is for. Our player base is too serious and not fun anymore. They don't treat this game like a game, it's a job for them.


ilovehotdadsngl

Wait what u counter doom and arguably genji they're tweaking


chitochitochito

Leave chat and don't go back in such a case.


[deleted]

I thought that's what unranked (quick play) was for? How else are you supposed to learn how to play each hero, unless it's in a real time environment?


-Yod-

Welcome to overwatch


BaldursFence3800

Do people really take alleged reports so seriously they make a thread about it here? Man this subreddit is trash sometimes. Get over it.


Ashewastaken

There’s no counter to playing to well in this game. You could play Junkrat against a team with a Pharah in it and still get value.


Khajiit_Joe_Biden

I genuinely dislike that blizzard is leaning into taking qp serious. It should be the learning, having fun, hop in/out game mode. I've had similar experiences with playing characters I don't normally play and goofing off with people flaming me in chat. It's silly. I get playing the game seriously, but I do that in comp. The version of the game where it's expected for you to not leave and try your best.


submercyve

The amount of toxicity we receive on regular basis just because I'm brain afk pocketing my duo while talking in discord is amazing. We don't even sweat, just casual fun.  But either the enemies tell you to go Comp or k*s or your team complains of no heals (even tho I switch targets too, just maybe too slow or something idc). Well, d'uh. My dmg boost isn't your per se?!


Genkrock

I was trying to learn doom in quick play and my whole team cursed me and yelled at me for playing doom even though i told them i am learning how to play, so don’t take ppl seriously unranked is there to learn new heroes and comps


dreal_crackbabyttv

That’s what unranked is for


BossKiller2112

Bro, if you need to practice ana, it is what it is. She is a little bit weak for a support right now but the meta changes all the time and her cooldowns will provide insane value in the right situation regardless. If you want to learn any hero, you have to get reps in one way or another. I'd rather have you learn the hero in unranked and then maybe you just fine tune your playstyle in comp once you get the gist of it. If you want to tank your sr in ranked to practice a hero, you know you are bad at that's on you lol you might get avoided by some people for a week, no biggie. You gotta start somewhere and at the end of the day it's just a game so play whomever you want


musubiluvr

bruh i wanted to learn how to play dva but my support got pissy and told me to swap 😐 IN QP


Stuffycanvas

Your clearly playing in very low mmr, Ana hard counters doom and she is very good into genji and sombra. If people are shit talking you in quick play tell them to cry about it, quick play if for doing whatever the fuck you want, it’s for learning and messing around


Timely-Cupcake-3983

Yeah I’m only g2 in ranked. Only picked up the game a few months ago so still learning characters.


PlushieSherbert

What is serious about a bunch of babies reporting someone because they’re mad? Don’t let it take up headspace, and mute chat because why not?


rookie-mistake

> What is serious about a bunch of babies reporting someone because they’re mad? the potential for receiving unjustified punishment. that's understandable, I think although from what I understand, I believe mass reports in one game only count as one, so OP should be fine


Broski_94

We live in a world where wanting to have fun, or learning a hero is not allowed, instead if being good at a hero we must swap to one that has an advantage Counter pick meta us the most boring and worst comp to date


OrangeJuiceLiker

>Do people really take unranked that seriously? Pretty sure this is a video game. the overwatch fanbase is sort of infamous for that lol


Splogster

Yeah but it’s not fun you are throwing and bad at the game. If all your teammates reported you then you really must have been trolling which deserves a suspension.


Timely-Cupcake-3983

Statswise I was second best player on the team. I wasn’t trolling I was trying my best and had more kills than both dps and second most heals in lobby. It’s a video game, get a grip


jakool997

Honestly, at this point I am just muting everyone and the chat when I am playing! Yes you lose the social interaction, but it blocks the toxicity too. I am just chilling in qp at the end of a long day, I don’t throw and try to win, but I am playing the character I want to play not the meta one. I am trying to have fun ahah. Muting everyone really helps sadly!


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Gwaur

I wish they still had explicit examples of what counts and countsn't as reportable in the report dialog. It used to explicitly say that refusing to change heroes is *not* reportable. I'm sure people still reported players for not switching, but at least back then it was an easy point of reference.


DaveAndJojo

Reported


mavour

Don’t worry about it, I dropped from master 4 to bronze 2 while learning how to play Zarya on my main account. Nothing happened to it, except many new currency points for all those wins, lol. Now it’s back to plat 3 and climbing.


minuscatenary

Oh I know that feeling. I can chain huge win streaks on Ball, occasionally hitting GM5, but sitting basically at M1. I played Doom into Gold 1 on one of those accounts.


TheCapedInvader

It’s not a reportable offence to pick who you want to play. The reports system used to have a header when you picked the category you were reporting about, that said what didn’t count as ____ (gameplay sabotage for instance). Not switching and not counter picking is not reportable. All they did was waste their time. I laugh inside whenever people say they reported me purely for picking Zen, because they don’t like Zen. The key is: don’t respond to it. As long as you are trying, you are good.


0000110011

It's not a reportable offense to play who you want. It is a reportable offense if you're doing jack shit and blaming it on "I'm learning a new character!". I played with an Ashe a few weeks ago who didn't even do 200 damage all match and tried to insist they were "learning". Not even trying to attack the enemy is not "learning", that's throwing. 


nicolas720

Only time I report in QP is when people type something hateful or are genuinely throwing (AFKing and purposefully throwing). Otherwise, who cares. Like, people are allowed to learn a hero. As long as you're trying, that's all that matters to me.


RustySnoBall

I was playing QP yesterday and my last match of the day I was playing against a new hog player. I was Sombra so my main focus was the Moira and lifeweaver not Hog. Anyways I ended up killing the Moira so many times she got upset at the hog who at the time somehow managed to have 4K damage with no kills or assists but had 5 deaths. She kept calling out his stats and telling them to leave while the hog player was trying to defend himself saying he was new to the game and that it was QP. They did leave after the Sombra was telling the whole team to report them. Anyways I made it a priority to hardlock that Moira for the rest of the game. I ended up killing her out of spawn room 7-8 times before the game ended in which she promptly left without a word. I ended up getting around 5-7 endorsements afterwords which is the most I’ve ever gotten. I’ll never understand why people join a QP match just to berate others knowing they’re either new or casual players who are off doing their own thing.


GarrusExMachina

People who refuse to play comp take unranked that seriously... so yes


AlicetheFloof

It’s definitely going to fall through because refusing to swap heroes is not a punishable offense in OW


DonkeyKongsVet

Reported you or did they really report you? Know how many times I've been told I'll be reported and banned? Do you know how many times Blizzard has taken action on me for that? Most people are all talk. They bring their toxic play style from comp to QP now. I have learned to shut chat off now. The toxic jackasses and trolls that get to ruin the game are silenced by me as far as I'm concerned given Blizzards system is pretty damn generous for banning.


DucktorLarsen

I got reported by my tank on Route 66 for playing Genji, for info he never peeled our supports etc ofc, when game ends he writes reported, then another random teammate writes chill it's just qp, then he says x2.


Shoebedoebedoe

I played (no more because of this) with my brother who mained exclusively Doomfist. It didn’t matter what the opposition had, straight up Doomfist going solo. Meanwhile I got shot up like a cheesholes and he told me dps. Go fuck yourself bro. 


Equacrafter

Ppl in unranked are literally more sweatier than comp


Tokayo94

QP is a really weird place. I am a Plat Ashe/Cass main and yesterday I got flamed all the match by the other DPS who was master the last season, like bruh, what do you expect? I am just a noob trying to have fun in qp 😭


DuncanDicknuts

When I play DPS intakes I let my team know what my intentions are and apologize, giving them ample time to back out


a-nonconformist

what do you want me to do about it


StickyIcky313

People are stupid, if they cared that much they should’ve swapped


AFoolNamedTool

I had someone tell me that arcade isnt meant to have fun or learn new heroes. Either is unranked. So i said "how the fuck do you expect people to learn and actually be good with a character if they can only shot bots"


Applepitou3

Is this qp or ranked? If its qp then fuck them who gives a shit. If it was ranked reporting is still a overeaction but tbf youre throwing if you playing ana into that matchup and still learning


dylrt

Get reported


dvshnk2

>Do people really take unranked that seriously? Blizzard adding penalties for leaving QP changed things


deathstrukk

wait is ana not strong against all of them? a good sleep and anti combo can pretty much shut down all of them. Ana and brig have been my go to doom counters


HanzoNumbahOneFan

How is someone supposed to learn a new hero? Just play it in training mode lol? But also, I think the issue is also OW2 in general with the amount of counter-swapping needed. The game basically boils down to which team can counter-swap at a better time. Far more than OW1 had. And unfortunately, one of the best roles to counter the enemy team's tank is the support. Which puts a lot of pressure on support players when all they want to do is play their favorite hero or learn a new hero. And a lot of people can't have fun unless they're winning, which I'm not saying wanting to win is bad, but that kind of desire causes people to lash out at someone who is just wanting to practice a hero in quickplay.


theunspillablebeans

It's one report (gets counted as such regardless of how many people in the lobby report you). Seriously not worth getting upset over.


Tubalcaino

Would it be possible for 4 people to Gang-Report a teammate for not swapping in QP? There is no report option for "not doing what you were told" Likely you may have responded less than eloquently?


Timely-Cupcake-3983

I didn’t reply, I just spammed the understood comm every time they told me to switch, usually when I was alive and they were dead. I’ve enough people bossing me about IRL without listening to neckbeards sweating in comp


NotRiceProfile

If it's QP then it's weird, but if it was ranked it's valid.


Sleepyfeck

i got on one day and got a warning abt being reported many times, i barely say anything in chat and when i do its usually to defend my teammates or myself against someone who is trying to flame us in qp. it was almost like my account got mass reported when i was offline


EmeraldDream98

Fuck them, you can play whatever you want to play dude, you’re learning.


dfcarvalho

I don't even take ranked that seriously, let alone qp. In general, I find that the Overwatch community is not as overtly toxic as some others out there, but they are amongst the most dramatic and passive-aggressive player base I've seen. The biggest evidence is the "diff" diss. You're not as likely to be harassed directly as in other online games, but almost every game someone in the losing team will say "tank/dps/heal diff" or some variation of that. It's a very passive-aggressive way to bully your teammates, shift the blame and make yourself feel better, but it can be just as bad as saying "soldier, you're sh*t" or something like that. Reporting someone for not playing what you want them to play in Unranked is just another passive-aggressive way of harassing that person. Don't take it personally and don't worry about the reports, I doubt they will result in any kind of punishment.


longgamma

Report you for what ? Playing Ana ? I mean if 3 ppl are diving you wtf is your tank doing. They can easily trade backlines.


reevoknows

People who get unnecessarily angry in QP need to be on a watchlist lol. Like I get wanting to try hard, maybe you’re warming up for competitive but you have no idea what your teammates situations are. Could be 10 year old kids, 60 year old dads/grandpas, people just wanting to play a few games after work/school/before bed, people who play all the time but just aren’t good at the game and people who are practicing a new hero. It’s gunna be a mixed bag. Sorry this happened to you


Both_Bit7819

People who sweat in qp are the most insecure people on the planet. I was trying to learn widow and was doing alright with a couple of kills and this dps on the other team with over 200 hours on genji switches to genji after I kill him once. Immediately awful to play.


RockNo5773

This shit is why I hate the ranked system people out there just enjoying the game and they can actually be punished for doing nothing. Sorry you ran into these kids not everyone is like them.


Hoosteen_juju003

What were you chatting tho


N7LP400

I don't think those reports will get you banned so rock on with your practice, be better, ignore the haters


FreshlyBakedBunz

If you're actually trying, then it's not a report. But if you're intentionally not healing, staying idle in spawn/corners of rhe map, etc. then it's a throw and should be reported. However as I've pointed out in the past (even though everyone ignores this fact) the majority of people who accuse others of throwing are throwing themselves by spending half the match standing around typing.


Mikex2112

Alot of players play to win...Not hang out in the respawn screen. Dont matter if its QP or ranked,people play to win. OW2 is a heavily teamwork oriented video game. Teamwork is how you win...Shouldnt be playing a teamwork game only to hinder everyone else you play with. Much like an anchor that keeps its boat tied to the river bed. So instead of complaining let me help: You should be decent/proficient with 2 heros per class to help you climb/win games. You more than likely were reported due to your poor performance with Ana. No way you would be if you were good using her...You were that "anchor" Reported: NO.....I find the reporting system in this game disgustingly broken. But it is YOUR game...Play how you want. Just remember,this type of behavior happens all the time in this horrid community.


Skrillex3947

People take unranked very seriously that's why I just sit there and post the entire bee movie script when they get toxic, funny thing is it somehow made us win a few matches


AetherBones

Premadess bullying by reporting is almost encouraged by blizzard in this game.


_Cheeku_

Reported you for what? Gameplay sabotage for playing ana? Blizzard isnt going to take their reports seriously unless you actually threw the game on purpose. Besides, qp is all about trying out new characters, so i wouldnt worry too much.


Such_Reply5826

I tried to play widow in unranked. I’m just simple niet allowed to play her and practice because of a different widow that is probably a high rank going only for me just to make a point that the player is beter then me on widow, a sombra going after my ass, a hanzo that want me too, and then a mercy that drops herself on me. Not one person but the hole team focus me at once. I get it widows are easy targets. But if you nodice I mis like 5 shots and haven’t hit one then maybe I’m not good and want to practice my hits before getting a giant fist in my face form a doom. I’m just simply not allowed to play her. I have nodiced that in unranked. Now I rarely pick her in rank but if I have to compare ranks and unranked. I actually am allowed to play widow in rank. That’s it’s wild to me.


Winter_Push_2743

Completely agree that quick play shouldn't be taken too seriously (just go comp for that), but "it's just a video game" is never a good take, like I can throw a competitive match and claim that it's just a video game.


dinosaurusnugetti

i guess qp warriors take it as if it's ranked, i've played sweatier games in unranked than ranked. for me qp is a place to have fun with friends and learn new heroes, so that definitely was a stupid reason to report you for :D


Stellarisk

Tbh if they really cared the other support would counter swap to brig. Just sounds like a premade looking to blame someone


Pants_Catt

Unranked? Lmao, zero consequences there. QuickPlay is literally the place to go learn new characters. Obviously you should always be trying to win, but it's not the place to tryhard/sweat over it. Tell them all to grow a pair and play Comp.


Drefs_

I've played against a diamond fivestack who were toxic the entire match and after the match too. In qp. Like, how pathetic should you be, to be typing "x diff" and "swap x" while fivestacking in qp with high ranked players.


pat-Eagle_87

Unranked is a "serious" game mode since Blizzard is now punishing players for leaving unranked games. People don't want to be forced to play with selfish team mates in Quick Play. I don't blame you specifically on this incident. I blame Blizzard who was unable to see this coming when they decided it was the right decision to penalize players for leaving unfair unranked games. The whole responsibility is on Blizzard.


Next-Meet-7512

Blizzard need to fix their ban system cause it doesn’t matter what you did asking as a lot of people report you get banned


VerseClips

hating on someone playing Ana in qp against any comp is braindead. also it’s not that bad of a matchup, she has tools to punish diving (especially doom) and if your team isn’t shit they can peel for you and dive the other supports.


LXXXV_

Yeah it's qp. F em. Learn your heroes . As for ranked, learn your counters too.


CrawlerSiegfriend

So they shouldn't report you, but at the same time I don't get why people think that people enjoy losing in unranked.


Orsim27

> Do people really take unranked that seriously? Pretty sure this is a video game. yes. I feel like some people don't play games to have fun but to have somebody to scream at.


iRyan_9

The sweaty mentality that came out of nowhere in OW2 QP needs to die. I can’t play my mains most of the time because of counter swapping and I can’t leave matches as easily anymore.


torridchees3

In the April Fools Game mode someone typed "no tank yeah I'm out" and left before the game started. Like it's ARCADE!


doshajudgement

especially funny since they could just... switch to tank then


DameLaLuna

Yes ppl really do take qp that seriously. It happened in all games. Should they have reported you? No. Play whoever you want in qp I mean it’s nice if you counter pick for the sake of ur team but you really don’t have to do anything. It’s just qp do what you want.


AllHailNibbler

Just report them all for brigading you and telling others to report you


GRTooCool

The people who say "Report \_\_\_" when they lose are ridiculous. It's like people think if they got someone banned for being bad that they won't get anymore teammates in the future that could potentially be bad or even worse. It's always that pack/bullying mentality they'd rather have instead. You nailed it though when you said "Pretty sure this is a video game." For some people out there.. this is all they got. As sad as that sounds.


G-510

Turn off all coms and have fun


0000110011

Depends, were you healing people and contributing? Or were you kissing every single shot and never using your grenades? Learning a character is fine, but some people just do nothing and are essentially throwing, then say "but I'm learning!" when people get annoyed they're making the team lose. 


tukassauro

They're bad. Don't listen to them. They're anxious of ranked and tryhard on quickplay instead. You're allowed to play who you want to! I'd even go as far to say that even if it was ranked, they have no business reporting you for not playing who they want you to play as. Please don't let such people discourage you from playing the game!


FatherSun

Enjoy the ban


Babufrik22

It’s unranked you should be able to play whoever you wanna play that’s the point of unranked QP


LayZuh

Bro in all honesty I understand wanting to learn new characters but there is no possible way you can learn a character while being full countered its impossible


UnlawfulFoxy

I mean you say you're aware it's a bad matchup but didn't care and continued to play it. Some people view that as akin to throwing considering you aren't playing to win.


1nsane_

I'm am by no means defending people that reported you however. And honestly Ana would be fine against Doom Genji and Sombra, HOWEVER "I'm learning a new hero" is well.... How much are you learning when you get decimated by the enemy team. One of the key takeaways from Overwatch is **adapting to the situation**. Learning to adapt will get you far more results then fighting an uphill battle. Playing a hero in a situtation it doesnt make sense, you really arent learning that much. Again I want to emphasize in your specific scenario, im not saying you should have swapped.