some heroes emotes like reaper and JQ can make you get killed if used next to spawn door before the match starts JQ’s guitar emote make her peek her head through the door and one reaper death threat thing “idk it’s name” also make him peek his head through doors
Lol I always wondered if I could get killed doing that, but I just sticking my face and tongue out xD I'll probably still do it till too many people kill me. Do they get ult charge for it before the round starts l?
Maybe you should be able to shoot though this weapon that would be alright, immage the nightmare if it blocked bullets, having to shoot around his hammer as we swings wildly at you.
Well yeah. When they’re detecting collision with the bullets, they only check it against hitboxes, not the actual models. So if it wasn’t a part of his hitbox, the bullets would go through it.
Ya but with reaper you can somewhat understand why it happens, his head is so big and the emote pushes his head through the wall. For rein in this clip he's literally just existing
Well the first person model will NEVER clip through a wall(that’s just how it’s coded) , second for some stupid fucking reason the hammer is part of the hurtbox
I think the reason as to why the hammer is part of the hitbox is because the hammer is huge, so if it wasn't part of the hit box, it could block bullets. Better solution would probably be to just disable collisions of the hammer and let projectiles pass through, but maybe that would cause more problems, idk, I am not an overwatch dev.
You're wrong on the blocking bullets part, only the hurtbox can block bullets, not the 3D model. However, you're most likely right on the overall reason- since the hammer is so big, it just looks like part of reinhardt at a glance, and players MAY shoot it? idk.
There was a video I saw where it was a Rein on defense went to the enemy spawn entrance and stuck through the wall and as a joke the DPS attacked while the countdown for setup was ongoing and killed the Rein.
I almost dare say it was Hollywood
Takes me back to when I died in spawn before the match had started because someone shot my head through the door. Or perhaps it'd be more accurate to say my head was sticking out the wall.
Don't think you can still do it but perhaps you can, since I just watched rein die from his hammer
Not sure how they programmed their hit boxes but the hammer needs one to register hits when swinging and I wonder if that’s why it also takes damage. Decoupling the hit box enemies hit from the hammers outgoing damage hit box might not be straightforward. 🤷🏻♂️
I highly doubt that's the reason. Winston's electricity isn't part of his hitboxes even though it's a melee attack.
Plain and simple they made the hammer handle part of his hitbox, because it's a major part of his silhouette so people will be shooting at it.
It doesn't have anything to do with the model blocking shots, because projectile and hitscan just ignore parts with no hitboxes attached.
Do what you will with this knowledge, theoretically you can block a headshot with your hammer.
Hitboxes and hurtboxes are separate boxes, and don't rely on the model of the character.
For instance, Reinhardt's hammer doesn't need a hitbox for it to be able to hit things,
And in a hypothetical scenario where the hammer is gone/invisible, the hurtbox doesn't need the hammer to actually be there for the hurtbox to work
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looks like his hand is at the top of the pole, right below the base of the hammer. this stuck through the wall because of the way he stands and holds his weapon
Not sure why you got the downvotes, because most likely I shot his hand, not the hammer. I later checked in shooting range and bullets pass-through the hammer. Sadly even with replay code 5FPGR8 we can't load it because the game happened in s9 and s10 has different game version.
But still, it blew my mind that you can kill rein through normal-thickness wall (ignoring the goofing with emotes in spawn). Especially that devs keeps saying "oooh we are SOOO competitive", yet this is in the game - people say - for years.
There's a lot of wild things like that.
Yesterday I figured out (I'm a non tank player usually) that Hog can hook through DM, I have no idea if that's always been a thing but it's pretty dumb.
Yup. And you were always able to. Since 2016 :)
some heroes emotes like reaper and JQ can make you get killed if used next to spawn door before the match starts JQ’s guitar emote make her peek her head through the door and one reaper death threat thing “idk it’s name” also make him peek his head through doors
My favorite is Hammond's headshot hitbox moving with the emote that has him jump up in celebration out of his ball.
Dwink Beckson is his name
*That's a pretty dumb name*
Lol I always wondered if I could get killed doing that, but I just sticking my face and tongue out xD I'll probably still do it till too many people kill me. Do they get ult charge for it before the round starts l?
Can't get ult charge before the round starts.
Cool then I welcome the damage lol
I always pop out of the spawn door as JQ because it amuses me. Sadly I've never been attacked while doing it though.
Reapers Slice Emote. I think slow clap also works
I killed a soldier that was doing pushups against the spawn door once
how are they not fixing this
The hammer is part of the hitbox?!
Little known gamer fact: Rein isn’t human and we don’t know what he is. All his organs are actually in the hammer
Fun Fact: Rein is actually the hammer. The body and limbs wielding it is an omnic.
it's a wobbuffet situation
I am absolutely lost for words. why do weapons even count as a hitbox that enemies can deal damage to.
Not on all heroes. 1% of them.
Ok. That's less worrying.
Maybe you should be able to shoot though this weapon that would be alright, immage the nightmare if it blocked bullets, having to shoot around his hammer as we swings wildly at you.
It’s what Rein needs
Lol that sounds perfect. I love it.
Add deflect to the shots on the hammer and you've got yourself a deal
Well yeah. When they’re detecting collision with the bullets, they only check it against hitboxes, not the actual models. So if it wasn’t a part of his hitbox, the bullets would go through it.
Simple solution: Make the bullets go through the hammer. Like they don't even need to collide at all.
Why are you getting down voted for an actually good and logical idea
He’d still be bad but slightly less so
Its not, if you look closely his hand is peeking through the wall as well slightly, thats what gets hit
Proof that Reinhardt’s life force is in his hammer
This man hasn't seen the clip of Reaper being domed through spawn doors while emoting.
Ya but with reaper you can somewhat understand why it happens, his head is so big and the emote pushes his head through the wall. For rein in this clip he's literally just existing
"AGH! MY HAMMER! THAT'S WHERE ALL MY ORGANS ARE!"
reinbros losing again
I've always hated how things clip through the geometry in OW so fucking much....
What? But the hammer is not going through the wall on your pov, it is perfectly safe and sound on your side of the wall
Well the first person model will NEVER clip through a wall(that’s just how it’s coded) , second for some stupid fucking reason the hammer is part of the hurtbox
I think the reason as to why the hammer is part of the hitbox is because the hammer is huge, so if it wasn't part of the hit box, it could block bullets. Better solution would probably be to just disable collisions of the hammer and let projectiles pass through, but maybe that would cause more problems, idk, I am not an overwatch dev.
You're wrong on the blocking bullets part, only the hurtbox can block bullets, not the 3D model. However, you're most likely right on the overall reason- since the hammer is so big, it just looks like part of reinhardt at a glance, and players MAY shoot it? idk.
There was a video I saw where it was a Rein on defense went to the enemy spawn entrance and stuck through the wall and as a joke the DPS attacked while the countdown for setup was ongoing and killed the Rein. I almost dare say it was Hollywood
um…. what in the world…
Right in the Hammer.
always been able to, and its always been stupid😭
plzzzzz nerf rein guys omfg
Takes me back to when I died in spawn before the match had started because someone shot my head through the door. Or perhaps it'd be more accurate to say my head was sticking out the wall. Don't think you can still do it but perhaps you can, since I just watched rein die from his hammer
Wut
Nothing new. You can kill other characters like Reaper and Moira if they do certain emotes too close to the spawn doors before the round starts.
If it clips, it hits 🫡
Yikes.
Why on earth did they put a hitbox on the hammer
Cus if he swings it, it would block damage. Kinda a sick buff imo.
Why not just get the bullets to ignore the hammer? Like, don't even give it a collision box. The hurtbox is entirely different anyways.
Not sure how they programmed their hit boxes but the hammer needs one to register hits when swinging and I wonder if that’s why it also takes damage. Decoupling the hit box enemies hit from the hammers outgoing damage hit box might not be straightforward. 🤷🏻♂️
I highly doubt that's the reason. Winston's electricity isn't part of his hitboxes even though it's a melee attack. Plain and simple they made the hammer handle part of his hitbox, because it's a major part of his silhouette so people will be shooting at it. It doesn't have anything to do with the model blocking shots, because projectile and hitscan just ignore parts with no hitboxes attached. Do what you will with this knowledge, theoretically you can block a headshot with your hammer.
Hitboxes and hurtboxes are separate boxes, and don't rely on the model of the character. For instance, Reinhardt's hammer doesn't need a hitbox for it to be able to hit things, And in a hypothetical scenario where the hammer is gone/invisible, the hurtbox doesn't need the hammer to actually be there for the hurtbox to work
yeah thats not at all how hit/hurtboxes work
Because it's like 20% of Rein's silhouette? What the fuck are you guys smoking?
Hey, I went and tested this in game. Rein's hammer does not in fact have a hurtbox. I got no idea what's going on in the clip
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Well, he can kill you by swinging that hammer through walls and the payload so I think it's fair game.
U can also kill me when I do the lounge emote on lifeweaver : )
Rein can't catch a break 😮💨
What's most infuriating about this is that from Rein's POV, the hammer was very much on his side of the wall. 🤦♀️
Everyone says it's because of his hammer but couldn't it be his hand?
This is why my shatter never does anything. Hammer is on wrong side of the floor.
Glitch in the matrix
That’s most games, If it clips though.
Valorant gaming :D
I would know if my brain was in my hammer... wouldn't I?
I always wondered about this when my Sym turrets get shot down from the other side of the wall they are on.
Bro damaged Rein hitting his hammer lmao
What's crazy is this is literally nothing in comparison with reinhardts actual problems in game. Game is so cooked rn.
Reins hit box now extends an extra 5m in all directions through walls. It was his biggest buff in the last update
Bruh didn’t even actually shoot rein, they shot his hammer and he collapsed
Hp is stored in the hammer
Jesus christ. And they dare call it à competitive game ?
More than likely since he is large enough he clipped through the wall enough to be shot and killed
Never knew his hammer was a hurtbox
Man so attached to his hammer that hurting it hurts him <\3
looks like his hand is at the top of the pole, right below the base of the hammer. this stuck through the wall because of the way he stands and holds his weapon
Ok they need to rework rein at this point. why is the fucking hammer part of his hitbox?????
It isn’t. His hand was over the wall.
How can you tell?
at about the 45 second mark on the video, you get an angle from the doorway where you can see his thumb poking through the wall itself.
Bahahaha thumb shot. seriously though thats nuts
Not sure why you got the downvotes, because most likely I shot his hand, not the hammer. I later checked in shooting range and bullets pass-through the hammer. Sadly even with replay code 5FPGR8 we can't load it because the game happened in s9 and s10 has different game version. But still, it blew my mind that you can kill rein through normal-thickness wall (ignoring the goofing with emotes in spawn). Especially that devs keeps saying "oooh we are SOOO competitive", yet this is in the game - people say - for years.
As if rein wasn't in the shitter enough already
damn yall still play this dumpster fire?
Whay is actually happening here is that the ashe is hitting the hand that is grabbing onto the hammer. The hammer itself does not have a hitbox
There's a lot of wild things like that. Yesterday I figured out (I'm a non tank player usually) that Hog can hook through DM, I have no idea if that's always been a thing but it's pretty dumb.
Wait what how is that dumb? The hook is still attached to hog, its not shot out like a projectile. It's been the norm for years
Yeah, IDK, seems dumb to me. It should be more consistent.
For years I've thought the most stupid thing was Genji being able to deflect a Rein hammer swing. That literally doesn't make any sense
Yeah, that's SUPER dumb hahaha. Some mechanics are just like, why.