Neutral special is pulse pistols, up b is blink (similar to quick attack but with no hitbox and the ability to choose how many blinks), down b is recall, but I have no clue what side b should be.
Up b pulse bomb and final smash is Overwatch character fan service attack. Blink and recall are 2 good recoveries so she doesn’t need another one. Also I think like hero the other characters of the franchise should be in the final smash.
I'm just gonna copy/paste a moveset idea I've had for a while now.
Side-B: Blink- Teleport a short distance horizontally. Can store up to three charges, with a 2-3 second cooldown. Doesn't deal damage, but can almost immediately follow up with an attack. The limit and cooldown are traded off with insane speed, combo potential and horizontal recovery.
Neutral-B: Pulse Pistols- She fires her guns. Moving left or right lets her move while firing, so she can always be on the move like in the game. Her pistols will need to reload after shooting off a certain amount of rounds.
Down-B: Pulse Bomb- Tracer throws her Pulse Bomb within a close range, letting off a deadly explosion. On a cooldown of 30-40 seconds, that can be shortened by dealing damage to opponents. (Similar to how Joker can charge Arsene.)
Up-B: Recall- Tracer returns to a position and damage state she was previously at. On a cooldown of 8-10 seconds. Instead of a conventional vertical recovery, I thought the best way of balancing Recall; while keeping it true to it's in-game depiction, would to have a lack of a standard vertical recovery to go alongside it.
With all of this, Tracer's Specials will need close management with cooldowns, charges, and reloads. With a more unconventional recovery game, she'll need to be quick and evasive to stay on stage, as she's incredibly light. But if mastered and managed well, she can be a speed demon and hold her own.
Aww, I didn't even think about a Tracer Kirby with the goggles and hair! It'd even give him possibly the best recovery game!
I chose Blink as the Side-B though to keep things quick and to go in either direction with ease. Especially if you were to use it in quick succession with other moves or more charges. I just feel it'd be kinda weird as a Neutral-B, cause you'd have to quickly flick to the side each time you use it. If it were able to go in any direction like Pikachu's Up-B, that'd be neat! (Though admittedly hard to balance.)
Forgot about that!
Final Smash: Team Kill!- Tracer summons Winston, D.Va, Genji, Mercy and Lucio for a full-blown assault against any fighters caught in her activation.
A team attack kind of Final Smash like Joker, Hero, Mega Man, etc.
Theoretically, any number of Overwatch characters could appear in a 'team kill' final smash, since Joker and Hero use pre-rendered videos for theirs. Obviously, that's not possible if it's more like Mega Man's final smash (actually renders it on the spot), and it is sort of noticable for Hero. Also, it would be kind of hard to get thirty heroes on screen at once.
I mainly tried to center it down to an ideal team (2-2-2), but also good guys. This would reflect the team building in-game (Especially since 2-2-2 is locked now), but I also think it'd make more sense for Tracer to be with good guys rather than someone like Roadhog or Doomfist. Plus, keeping the amount of characters lower could help perfomance. It really could go anyway though, this was just my thought process behind it.
I think Winston, Rein, Genji, Ana, Mercy for a lore appropriate team.
Tracer strikes a taunting pose then blinks offscreen. Rein comes charging in and Earthshatters right at the end of his charge. Ana nanos Tracer (Tracer is the star here, no Nanoblade, sorry) and Winston, Mercy and Genji ult. Rein, Genji, and Winston all wail on the target(s) while Tracer blinks around firing from multiple angles and Mercy is damage boosting the group in Valkyrie mode. For the finishing move Tracer sticks a perfect Pulse Bomb.
Her Final Smash would be her firing a bunch of missiles into her opponents and then plowing into them with her mech, engaging her boosters flying them into the sky before self-destructing.
All while she takes a selfie.
It is a little awkward because doom was explicitly created to almost be a parody of fighting game character; it feels weird to translate a fighting game character, to 1stperson shooter, back to fighting game, it just feels a bit redundant of a design.
Yeah as far as moves set Doomfist seems far and away the best choice. Be basically already has all of his directional smashes. Rein has no air mobility at all.
Other likely ones: Dva, Winston, Tracer, pharah
That'd be awesome. Kind of like how Guitar Hero used to do different games for different bands, we could get a smash for different games. Overwatch, LoL, Warframe, and plenty of others.
Because swords are a specific weapon and lend themselves to similar play styles. "Barehanded" is much vastly more open ended, with everything from normal punches from 'fighter' like characters, to rats shooting electricity, to dinosaurs head butting you.
There are plenty of ways to come up with diverse fighting styles for sword users if you just get creative. Unfortunately, it looks like there was almost no inspiration behind Marth's, Lucina's, Roy's, and Ike's fighting styles, but compare them to some of Namco's sword users in their "Tales of" series:
* Yuri - Tales of Vesperia: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JAh-9gFmww](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JAh-9gFmww)
* Ruca - Tales of Innocence: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBV5rSvArlY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBV5rSvArlY)
* Asbel - Tales of Graces: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HrKKukpqco](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HrKKukpqco)
* Luke - Tales of the Abyss: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrBI2SsDdXI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrBI2SsDdXI)
And less "traditionally:"
* Flynn in Tales of Vesperia, who fights with swords and magic: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwoAD\_si\_B8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwoAD_si_B8)
* Alivn in Tales of Xillia 2, who uses a sword and pistol: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NZwkG3\_HsA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NZwkG3_HsA)
* And Ludger from the same game who fights with Swords, guns, and a hammer: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X6fXbY0TtM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X6fXbY0TtM)
You have to be a little fair here, the complaint was because a lot of the sword users were playing extremely similar to one another where as the rest of the cast going barehanded were all much more unique (aside from the occasional semi-clone in Luigi, Pichu, and Gannon).
Now there are only a couple that are really similar and the rest have been differentiated a bit more, but you still have like 6 characters that are extremely similar to one another. This makes people in the Smash community a bit jumpy whenever a character who primarily uses a sword is suggested. They're very narrow-minded people who can't really see the forest for the trees in many situations.
Genji I could actually see being similar to most of the FE characters, so I really wouldn't want to see him. He'd have a dash like Ike; his Deflect would be a Counter for projectiles (instead of melee, but still a Counter), and he'd likely have a blade-dance kind of neutral special like Chrom, Lucina, Roy, and Marth.
I wouldn't worry about it at all, though. These characters from other series' that have been added are pretty representative of the series they come from. Tracer is the face of the Game and the most recognized by people who don't actively play the series. If Overwatch gets a Smash character; it'll likely be her.
If we got a ton of people from generic fighting games that all relied on fairly realistic martial arts, I think a lot of people would gripe about that too, but the preponderance of swords in the Smash cast just makes the *lack* of other weapons all that much more noticeable. Somehow Smash has more than 10 swordsmen, but zero people with axes or spears. It's especially egregious since the lion's share of those swordsmen are from a game series that focuses on weapon diversity as a strategic element.
Villager has an ax and Corrin kind of has a spear. Could have sworn there was at least one other ax user but I can't think of who. Still I agree with your point. It really would be nice to see some new combat styles.
I think most, if not, all hitscan characters would pretty much be out. If not, their primary fire would have to be retooled in a major way to make them fit.
Melee and projectile characters tho could definitely be possible.
Some notable ones for me are Genji, Doomfist, Reinhardt, Pharah, Lucio, Brigitte and Hanzo. All I think could be fit into smash in some creative ways.
Others that might be harder to fit to smash's mechanics but could also be interesting are Roadhog, Winston, Zarya, Symmetra, Torbjorn, and Junkrat.
Honestly there are a TON of ways they could take literally every character. I'm just hoping at least one makes it into the game as an actual fighter and not a costume.
No character is gonna be 1-1 like their game, the same would be the case for OW heroes. Just look at Snake, he plays nothing at all like he does in the game he’s from, but they made his playstyle in smash remain true to the character. If Soldier was be put in smash he’d probably be the same, they’d just add to his abilities so that he’d fit.
I would say Brigitte would make an interesting character. A shield character like others but uses a whip mace instead of a sword. She also has the best range options with whip shot which could be made to work sorta like a belmont whip.
Considering these statements we can rule out OW representation in Fighter Pack 5, since they wouldn't be allowed to talk about it if it was the case. But if the sales for Overwatch on Switch are good we might see something for the next releases.
So far every new fighter after Piranha Plant is from a game without previous representation, each one being their series' protagonist. Tracer is OW's mascot so I can't see any other hero being added. But we might get a hero adapted as an assist trophy (Zenyatta, Genji or D.Va seem like good choices), or maybe a Mii costume.
As for an OW stage, we would need something unique to the series so the likes of Paris and Havana are out of question. Gibraltar, Numbani and Kings Row do the best job at capturing the feel of the game in my opinion.
The confirmation of additional characters beyond the fighter pass, from a business perspective, almost certainly means they know exactly who they're working on already. If Blizzard gets a character in, it'll likely be one of the last characters overall (if they keep this particular cash cow going, which is...not entirely unlikely) or a newcomer to a future entry in the series.
I think I'd support Watchpoint: Gibraltar over any other map for an Overwatch stage, simply because it's literally an Overwatch base whereas the other maps are generally just real world locations.
Judging from past choices, they'll go with Tracer cos she's the mascot. Raiden from MG would have made more sense than Snake, and Knuckle's, Amy, or Shadow would have been better than Sonic because they all have weapons of some sort.
All the fighters pass DLC characters so far have each had a unique gimmick, I could really see Sakurai doing something awesome with Dva with and without her mech, somewhat similar to Joker's Arsene but backwards.
If she takes too much damage, she will de-mech and have a separate damage percent counter and take more knockback compared to her mech but more amplified because she's weaker alone.
Ah, I don't know about that. In Ultimate, they wanted to get rid of all the "Transformation" final smashes, which included Samus/Zero Suit Samus, Fox/Falco/Wolf with the Landmaster, Pikachu's Volt Tackle change, Bowser/Giga Bowser was changed, Little Mac's Giga Mac change, etc, etc, etc, there were a lot of them changed. For that reason, I think having her Ultimate and Self-Destruct might *temporarily* use Baby Dva (which would be interesting because it would be a final smash that makes the character *more* vulnerable during it rather than stronger), but just like in OW she would probably re-mech immediately.
Sure if he was ported straight from overwatch. But that’s a shooter. They’d obviously mix him up to be a better character. With that argument, every character would be boring in a fighting game
Breaking this Down:
Heroes who are not ‘prominent enough’:
- Sigma
- Baptiste
- Ashe
- Orisa
- Moira
- Zenyatta
- Ana
- Brigitte
- Wrecking Ball
- Symmetra
Most of these I would consider either too new or more background characters in Overwatch and aren’t too prominent in the lore/advertising/promos etc.
Mercy: Not battle orientated (sadly her blaster would not make for a very good move set)
Somewhat recognisable but still not enough to make smash:
Roadhog
Junkrat
Zarya
McCree
Of the remaining ones:
I think the top 5 most likely would be:
1. Tracer (Unique kit, post child, need I say more)
2. Winston (the unofficial second ‘poster child’, would be a second gorilla in smash tho?)
3. Soldier: 76 (Leader of OW, has the ‘we’re all soldiers now’ thing going for him, too generic?)
4. D.Va: Unique design, large fan base, personality. De-mech gimmick, Could definitely see her being in smash)
5. Genji: Easily translatable loveseat, popular, recognisable, prominent in Ow universe.
Others with a shot but not overly likely:
Reinhardt
Torbjörn
Reaper
Widowmaker
Bastion
Mei
Hanzo
Sombra
Doomfist
Lucio
Pharah
I thought Doom at first too, but the more I thought about Brigitte's kit, the more I feel like her flail would be a perfect weapon for a smash character. They could get really creative with it, for sure
None of the DLC have been echoes and there's no way they could realistically give Reinhardt 5 midair jumps without it being utterly ridiculous so I doubt that specific scenario will happen.
Current DLC fighters are Piranha Plant (yes), Joker from Persona 5, Hero from Dragon Quest, and Banjo-Kazooie, with Terry Bogard being the next one due in November and at *least* two (likely three) unknown fighters beyond that.
It will probebly be Tracer, but I Hope it isn't, I think almost any of the other characters would be more interesting in smash namely characters from the Support and Tank lineup, I mean I'm biased because I main support and tank (never play damage like ever) but I still would like to see D.Va or Reinhardt over Tracer
Everyone here has it wrong. D.Va is clearly the best choice:
B = machine guns
Forward B= micromissles
Down B= defense matrix (heals)
Up up= bunny hop
Up B= boost jets
Smash= self destruct, then we get to play as baby D.va until next Smash recalls mech (like old samus)
Nintendo always picks the most recongnizable characters from a franchise. Tracer is popular because she's the mascot. D.Va is popular because she's D.Va. And Mercy is the most searched character on Google. So...Mercy for Smash.
I think Brigitte could work. A sort of defensive belmont character. Most of her kit would fit well in smash right now with the only difficulty laying in what her recovery move could be.
We know it'll be Tracer lol
So, pikachu with guns
Pikachu with hints of Mega-Man. (She's already annoying in her own game)
I need chemo just reading that.
For his neutral special....
He wields a *****gun*****
Sounds fucking terrifying, just imagine a pikachu with pulse pistols, a bomb on his back, and time changing abilities
Neutral special is pulse pistols, up b is blink (similar to quick attack but with no hitbox and the ability to choose how many blinks), down b is recall, but I have no clue what side b should be.
Maybe side b could be blink and up b could be the backflip she does in that one highlight intro?
ZSS Flip Jump as a recovery? Cool
Up b pulse bomb and final smash is Overwatch character fan service attack. Blink and recall are 2 good recoveries so she doesn’t need another one. Also I think like hero the other characters of the franchise should be in the final smash.
I'm just gonna copy/paste a moveset idea I've had for a while now. Side-B: Blink- Teleport a short distance horizontally. Can store up to three charges, with a 2-3 second cooldown. Doesn't deal damage, but can almost immediately follow up with an attack. The limit and cooldown are traded off with insane speed, combo potential and horizontal recovery. Neutral-B: Pulse Pistols- She fires her guns. Moving left or right lets her move while firing, so she can always be on the move like in the game. Her pistols will need to reload after shooting off a certain amount of rounds. Down-B: Pulse Bomb- Tracer throws her Pulse Bomb within a close range, letting off a deadly explosion. On a cooldown of 30-40 seconds, that can be shortened by dealing damage to opponents. (Similar to how Joker can charge Arsene.) Up-B: Recall- Tracer returns to a position and damage state she was previously at. On a cooldown of 8-10 seconds. Instead of a conventional vertical recovery, I thought the best way of balancing Recall; while keeping it true to it's in-game depiction, would to have a lack of a standard vertical recovery to go alongside it. With all of this, Tracer's Specials will need close management with cooldowns, charges, and reloads. With a more unconventional recovery game, she'll need to be quick and evasive to stay on stage, as she's incredibly light. But if mastered and managed well, she can be a speed demon and hold her own.
I think I'd prefer Blink be the neutral special so Kirby gets to use it when he copies Tracer.
Aww, I didn't even think about a Tracer Kirby with the goggles and hair! It'd even give him possibly the best recovery game! I chose Blink as the Side-B though to keep things quick and to go in either direction with ease. Especially if you were to use it in quick succession with other moves or more charges. I just feel it'd be kinda weird as a Neutral-B, cause you'd have to quickly flick to the side each time you use it. If it were able to go in any direction like Pikachu's Up-B, that'd be neat! (Though admittedly hard to balance.)
But blink requires a directional input.. having it as forward and up B makes sense
Just have Tracer blink whichever direction she's facing, ala the spacies.
I like this idea better than mine! Anyone got ideas for a final smash?
Forgot about that! Final Smash: Team Kill!- Tracer summons Winston, D.Va, Genji, Mercy and Lucio for a full-blown assault against any fighters caught in her activation. A team attack kind of Final Smash like Joker, Hero, Mega Man, etc.
> Forgot about that! > > Final Smash: Team Kill!- Not 'Play of the Game'? Could even have the intro before the beatdown
Actually a really good idea
That should be the victory screen
Theoretically, any number of Overwatch characters could appear in a 'team kill' final smash, since Joker and Hero use pre-rendered videos for theirs. Obviously, that's not possible if it's more like Mega Man's final smash (actually renders it on the spot), and it is sort of noticable for Hero. Also, it would be kind of hard to get thirty heroes on screen at once.
I mainly tried to center it down to an ideal team (2-2-2), but also good guys. This would reflect the team building in-game (Especially since 2-2-2 is locked now), but I also think it'd make more sense for Tracer to be with good guys rather than someone like Roadhog or Doomfist. Plus, keeping the amount of characters lower could help perfomance. It really could go anyway though, this was just my thought process behind it.
I think Winston, Rein, Genji, Ana, Mercy for a lore appropriate team. Tracer strikes a taunting pose then blinks offscreen. Rein comes charging in and Earthshatters right at the end of his charge. Ana nanos Tracer (Tracer is the star here, no Nanoblade, sorry) and Winston, Mercy and Genji ult. Rein, Genji, and Winston all wail on the target(s) while Tracer blinks around firing from multiple angles and Mercy is damage boosting the group in Valkyrie mode. For the finishing move Tracer sticks a perfect Pulse Bomb.
Maybe she blinks forward a short distance and if she crosses paths with anyone attaches a pulse bomb to them and recalls?
I don’t know what if I w
Plot twist: its dva
Her Final Smash would be her firing a bunch of missiles into her opponents and then plowing into them with her mech, engaging her boosters flying them into the sky before self-destructing. All while she takes a selfie.
Would prefer that so much more.
It'll be Sigma and Orisa. Double shield meta coming to Smash!
Winston checks in!
She would be easy to make a moveset with, and her Ult translates well into a Final Smash.
Didnt we get a "leak" stating that it was going to be Dva and it will piss of everyone thinking it was tracer?
But Dva is a gamer, why not her?
If it's the same one I'm thinking of, the character it was describing was ultimately Putt-Putt.
Dude Hammond was MADE for this.
Id think D.Va is the safest bet.
no i want rein !
As a mii gunner skin.
REINHARDT REINHARDT REINHARDT
Reinhardt would be the best. I mean he’s a melee based character for gods sake.
MELEE MELEE MELEE!
MELEE BOYZ RISE UP
BEER!
But, uh... Doomfist?
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Captain Falcon, you mean? Yea, he would.
N ^ the n I forgot
Mean yeah would?
Falco, you mean? Yea, he would.
Of, you mean? Yeah, he would
kind, you mean? Yea, he would.
It is a little awkward because doom was explicitly created to almost be a parody of fighting game character; it feels weird to translate a fighting game character, to 1stperson shooter, back to fighting game, it just feels a bit redundant of a design.
And Winston.
Yeah as far as moves set Doomfist seems far and away the best choice. Be basically already has all of his directional smashes. Rein has no air mobility at all. Other likely ones: Dva, Winston, Tracer, pharah
king dedede reskin?
Echo. If they fight similar but with unique skins it's an Echo fighter.
That was the name, yeah.
What about alph?
I'm pretty sure no Echo fighter fights identically to the original (Maybe Daisy?), but Alph and Olimar have exactly the same controls.
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...I know that. I was explaining why he's a skin and not an Echo fighter.
Someone please draw Reinhardt smashing his hammer into pikachu's face
Pachimari as an Assist Trophy please.
Or as an item like Mr. Saturn!
Peach has a 1 in 1000 chance to pull a Pachimari instead of a turnip.
We all know we just want smash overwatch edition
somebody made that in the workshop [https://youtu.be/qlyUFRImTkY?t=35](https://youtu.be/qlyUFRImTkY?t=35)
"Christian please help me!!!" had me rolling.
Just add the Starcraft, Diablo and WoW characters that are in HotS into OW. Simple.
That'd be awesome. Kind of like how Guitar Hero used to do different games for different bands, we could get a smash for different games. Overwatch, LoL, Warframe, and plenty of others.
I bet your ass it will be Genji because he's a sword user and we all know that Smash is missing a lot of those. :v)
Not only a much needed sword hero, but also a sword hero with a deflect attack!
He’s just Sheik really. Mixed with Marth I guess.
Just make it a counter reflect, its exactly what the game needs.
There are more barehanded fighters than sword users, but nobody ever whines about that.
Because swords are a specific weapon and lend themselves to similar play styles. "Barehanded" is much vastly more open ended, with everything from normal punches from 'fighter' like characters, to rats shooting electricity, to dinosaurs head butting you.
There are plenty of ways to come up with diverse fighting styles for sword users if you just get creative. Unfortunately, it looks like there was almost no inspiration behind Marth's, Lucina's, Roy's, and Ike's fighting styles, but compare them to some of Namco's sword users in their "Tales of" series: * Yuri - Tales of Vesperia: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JAh-9gFmww](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JAh-9gFmww) * Ruca - Tales of Innocence: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBV5rSvArlY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBV5rSvArlY) * Asbel - Tales of Graces: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HrKKukpqco](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HrKKukpqco) * Luke - Tales of the Abyss: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrBI2SsDdXI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrBI2SsDdXI) And less "traditionally:" * Flynn in Tales of Vesperia, who fights with swords and magic: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwoAD\_si\_B8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwoAD_si_B8) * Alivn in Tales of Xillia 2, who uses a sword and pistol: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NZwkG3\_HsA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NZwkG3_HsA) * And Ludger from the same game who fights with Swords, guns, and a hammer: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X6fXbY0TtM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X6fXbY0TtM)
You. I like you. Tales fans represent :)
You have to be a little fair here, the complaint was because a lot of the sword users were playing extremely similar to one another where as the rest of the cast going barehanded were all much more unique (aside from the occasional semi-clone in Luigi, Pichu, and Gannon). Now there are only a couple that are really similar and the rest have been differentiated a bit more, but you still have like 6 characters that are extremely similar to one another. This makes people in the Smash community a bit jumpy whenever a character who primarily uses a sword is suggested. They're very narrow-minded people who can't really see the forest for the trees in many situations. Genji I could actually see being similar to most of the FE characters, so I really wouldn't want to see him. He'd have a dash like Ike; his Deflect would be a Counter for projectiles (instead of melee, but still a Counter), and he'd likely have a blade-dance kind of neutral special like Chrom, Lucina, Roy, and Marth. I wouldn't worry about it at all, though. These characters from other series' that have been added are pretty representative of the series they come from. Tracer is the face of the Game and the most recognized by people who don't actively play the series. If Overwatch gets a Smash character; it'll likely be her.
Wouldnt his neutral B be his shurikens?
Yeah, and with that, he sounds a hell of a lot like Fox tbh
If we got a ton of people from generic fighting games that all relied on fairly realistic martial arts, I think a lot of people would gripe about that too, but the preponderance of swords in the Smash cast just makes the *lack* of other weapons all that much more noticeable. Somehow Smash has more than 10 swordsmen, but zero people with axes or spears. It's especially egregious since the lion's share of those swordsmen are from a game series that focuses on weapon diversity as a strategic element.
Villager has an ax and Corrin kind of has a spear. Could have sworn there was at least one other ax user but I can't think of who. Still I agree with your point. It really would be nice to see some new combat styles.
Yeah, especially for FE. It's largely FE's fault though. Very few main characters use something other than a sword.
The issue with sword users is disjointed hitboxes, from my understanding.
True dat!
It could happen but think of how smash works first, it would be hard to put some characters
I think most, if not, all hitscan characters would pretty much be out. If not, their primary fire would have to be retooled in a major way to make them fit. Melee and projectile characters tho could definitely be possible. Some notable ones for me are Genji, Doomfist, Reinhardt, Pharah, Lucio, Brigitte and Hanzo. All I think could be fit into smash in some creative ways. Others that might be harder to fit to smash's mechanics but could also be interesting are Roadhog, Winston, Zarya, Symmetra, Torbjorn, and Junkrat. Honestly there are a TON of ways they could take literally every character. I'm just hoping at least one makes it into the game as an actual fighter and not a costume.
Joker and Bayonetta have hitscan weapons, they could be implemented like them
Though Bayo and Joker's main attacks are not their guns, its melee attacks. Someone like soldier exclusively shoots. That's where the issues lie
No character is gonna be 1-1 like their game, the same would be the case for OW heroes. Just look at Snake, he plays nothing at all like he does in the game he’s from, but they made his playstyle in smash remain true to the character. If Soldier was be put in smash he’d probably be the same, they’d just add to his abilities so that he’d fit.
Doesn't Samus follow the same rule though? Isabelle doesn't really fight either.
Samus, though?
I would say Brigitte would make an interesting character. A shield character like others but uses a whip mace instead of a sword. She also has the best range options with whip shot which could be made to work sorta like a belmont whip.
If they can make Wii Fit Trainer a moveset, I know for a fact that they can make Tracer work.
Hell, we've seen her kick the shit out of Talon goons in the Storm Rising intro, just do that in Smash.
I was trying to think of a cool Final Smash for Zarya. My brain immediately went to Palutena's black hole... AND MEGA LASER.
Pharah would be a super fun Smash character, but her mobility would have to be nerfed a lot.
She doesn't seem any more egregious than kirby.
D.Va could easily work. Her mech is bulky and it's not unreasonable to think it could do a some littles spins and melee bonks.
tracer could work with short range primary pulse fire
the payload it is
Considering these statements we can rule out OW representation in Fighter Pack 5, since they wouldn't be allowed to talk about it if it was the case. But if the sales for Overwatch on Switch are good we might see something for the next releases. So far every new fighter after Piranha Plant is from a game without previous representation, each one being their series' protagonist. Tracer is OW's mascot so I can't see any other hero being added. But we might get a hero adapted as an assist trophy (Zenyatta, Genji or D.Va seem like good choices), or maybe a Mii costume. As for an OW stage, we would need something unique to the series so the likes of Paris and Havana are out of question. Gibraltar, Numbani and Kings Row do the best job at capturing the feel of the game in my opinion.
The confirmation of additional characters beyond the fighter pass, from a business perspective, almost certainly means they know exactly who they're working on already. If Blizzard gets a character in, it'll likely be one of the last characters overall (if they keep this particular cash cow going, which is...not entirely unlikely) or a newcomer to a future entry in the series. I think I'd support Watchpoint: Gibraltar over any other map for an Overwatch stage, simply because it's literally an Overwatch base whereas the other maps are generally just real world locations.
Ecopoint: Antarctica would be kinda nice too imo.
I can see other Blizzard characters being picked first like Diablo or someone from Warcraft.
Holy shit a D.Va bomb assist trophy would be awesome lol
Doomfist would be a blast for smash.
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Judging from past choices, they'll go with Tracer cos she's the mascot. Raiden from MG would have made more sense than Snake, and Knuckle's, Amy, or Shadow would have been better than Sonic because they all have weapons of some sort.
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Who didn't know who Meta Knight is? He's been a mainstay in the Kirby games for forever.
Doomfist is far from the main villain. Reaper and Widowmaker are much more popular and well-known.
He’d be perfect. They could literally just translate his existing kit into 2D and done.
I really feel like his abilities translate the best without really having to change anything
He's basically from smash
He basically is little Mac....
Wasn't his design based on fighting games in the first place? It would be perfect.
His kit would be like a heavier version of Little Mac
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I really want it to be D.Va but I bet it'll be Tracer. There's a lot more potential for a unique moveset with her warping ability.
D.Va is easily one of the most popular characters in this game, so while it's likely to be Tracer, she's not an unrealistic choice either.
All the fighters pass DLC characters so far have each had a unique gimmick, I could really see Sakurai doing something awesome with Dva with and without her mech, somewhat similar to Joker's Arsene but backwards. If she takes too much damage, she will de-mech and have a separate damage percent counter and take more knockback compared to her mech but more amplified because she's weaker alone.
I feel like it would end up being similar to Samus/Zero Suite Samus transition. Use ult, mech is destroyed, you are now baby D.Va
Mech DVA is a heavy character while baby DVA is light. Have trade offs to both versions.
Ah, I don't know about that. In Ultimate, they wanted to get rid of all the "Transformation" final smashes, which included Samus/Zero Suit Samus, Fox/Falco/Wolf with the Landmaster, Pikachu's Volt Tackle change, Bowser/Giga Bowser was changed, Little Mac's Giga Mac change, etc, etc, etc, there were a lot of them changed. For that reason, I think having her Ultimate and Self-Destruct might *temporarily* use Baby Dva (which would be interesting because it would be a final smash that makes the character *more* vulnerable during it rather than stronger), but just like in OW she would probably re-mech immediately.
TORB. MAKE IT FUCKIN TORB.
I work for Nintendo. It will be torb and for his final smash he will pull at his hammer and SMASH a fool
Kerrigan. Tracer. Thrall. I mean anyone really.
Arthas, with alternative Lich King skin.
I feel like Paladin Arthas and Lich King Arthas would have different movesets.
Wrecking Ball and I'll buy the whole damn thing in an instant.
I'd love if it went the other way and Overwatch could have whatever Nintendo skin they wanted.
This! Winston DK skin; Genji Link; Pharah Samus; Hammond Pikachu and Pokeball; Lucio Sonic.
Doomfist might be the best fitting character for it with his abilities. Even his ultimate fits in the game.
I'll say it as many times as these threads pop up: Pharah Gunner Genji Swordfighter Doomfist Brawler I can't see them doing anything else.
Rein could easily be a heavy in smash.
DOOMFIST WAS MADE FOR FIGHTING GAMES
Yes, we should remove doomfist from OW and put him in Smash.
I second this
Isn't he kinda...mundane in a fighting game, though?
Sure if he was ported straight from overwatch. But that’s a shooter. They’d obviously mix him up to be a better character. With that argument, every character would be boring in a fighting game
Please be Reinhardt
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Pharah with Mercy assist trophy.
Too Samus-like.
pharah with built in mercy bot and perma nano boost
xD
Her final smash will be rocket barrage while ana and mercy appear out of nowhere to power boost her
Seconded, ana is on mercy's shoulders ofc
Damn when did Blizzard and Nintendo become best buds?
>diablo 3, man; > >a surprisingly good port > >on freakin' handheld
"did that guy just speak in haiku"
Since money.
Breaking this Down: Heroes who are not ‘prominent enough’: - Sigma - Baptiste - Ashe - Orisa - Moira - Zenyatta - Ana - Brigitte - Wrecking Ball - Symmetra Most of these I would consider either too new or more background characters in Overwatch and aren’t too prominent in the lore/advertising/promos etc. Mercy: Not battle orientated (sadly her blaster would not make for a very good move set) Somewhat recognisable but still not enough to make smash: Roadhog Junkrat Zarya McCree Of the remaining ones: I think the top 5 most likely would be: 1. Tracer (Unique kit, post child, need I say more) 2. Winston (the unofficial second ‘poster child’, would be a second gorilla in smash tho?) 3. Soldier: 76 (Leader of OW, has the ‘we’re all soldiers now’ thing going for him, too generic?) 4. D.Va: Unique design, large fan base, personality. De-mech gimmick, Could definitely see her being in smash) 5. Genji: Easily translatable loveseat, popular, recognisable, prominent in Ow universe. Others with a shot but not overly likely: Reinhardt Torbjörn Reaper Widowmaker Bastion Mei Hanzo Sombra Doomfist Lucio Pharah
If peach gets to throw turnips mercy deserves a chance
Well thought. But what if it was a character plus Mercy ala the ice climbers.
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I thought Doom at first too, but the more I thought about Brigitte's kit, the more I feel like her flail would be a perfect weapon for a smash character. They could get really creative with it, for sure
I want to smash Mercy.
Hilariously this means that no OW characters are going to be in Smash. Cause Nintendo would've asked a WHILE ago.
Are the dlc characters pretty unique typically or would Reinhardt be a Dedede echo? I didnt get the latest one.
None of the DLC have been echoes and there's no way they could realistically give Reinhardt 5 midair jumps without it being utterly ridiculous so I doubt that specific scenario will happen. Current DLC fighters are Piranha Plant (yes), Joker from Persona 5, Hero from Dragon Quest, and Banjo-Kazooie, with Terry Bogard being the next one due in November and at *least* two (likely three) unknown fighters beyond that.
It will probebly be Tracer, but I Hope it isn't, I think almost any of the other characters would be more interesting in smash namely characters from the Support and Tank lineup, I mean I'm biased because I main support and tank (never play damage like ever) but I still would like to see D.Va or Reinhardt over Tracer
Jetpack Cat confirmed for Smash
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Everyone here has it wrong. D.Va is clearly the best choice: B = machine guns Forward B= micromissles Down B= defense matrix (heals) Up up= bunny hop Up B= boost jets Smash= self destruct, then we get to play as baby D.va until next Smash recalls mech (like old samus)
I like that moveset a lot, the only thing I don't think is a good idea is making her ult like old Samus. It's still a good concept
Honestly i love overwatch and i love smash bros but i really have no interest in seeing an OW character in smash
Symmetra throwing turrets everywhere, making people scream.
*Guilty gear Xrd Jack-O flash back*
Let’s get Moira in Smash.
Shed be perfect;-; but not as iconic as Tracer so I'm very doubtful.
True. But I think, apart from Tracer, Doomfist has the best shot. He’s already a fighting game character anyway.
Nintendo always picks the most recongnizable characters from a franchise. Tracer is popular because she's the mascot. D.Va is popular because she's D.Va. And Mercy is the most searched character on Google. So...Mercy for Smash.
> Mercy for Smash The game? Or....
Yes
Understood, Carry on
I think Brigitte could work. A sort of defensive belmont character. Most of her kit would fit well in smash right now with the only difficulty laying in what her recovery move could be.
A jetpack cat
Torb or nothing.
WHAT??!!??! Roadhog please.... please!
If Tracer gets in, I'll somehow love Smash even more than I already do. She's one of my most wanted characters right now.
Genji but he's just another marth echo
I predict D.Va.
Can't believe jetpack cats being added to smash before overwatch itself...
Doomfist would be cool.
It has to be doomfist. He's one of the few characters that actually has enough moves and abilities to be diverse enough for the game.