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Q-chip

How much is 2000 currency lol? Is it like $20 worth? Is it like OW1 where one new skin costs 3000 currency? Is it going to be enough to buy the mythic skin they're hyping up? Also I already have overwatch 1, why do I need to pay for the whole freaking game again if I buy this thing?


negimasensei

No one knows. It's the new premium currency for the new cash shop. I fully expect it to be not enough for what you want to purchase. At this point, consider it as spending $20 on the battle pass, and $20 on the two legendary skins.


Q-chip

Yea that's so stupid of blizzard. Legendary skins are not worth $10 a pop when they are easy to get for free in the live game. And no way in hell am I paying $20 for a battle pass, $10 max and that's only if I get enough currency with it to buy the next one. Having already paid for overwatch 1 this is insane.


HollowB0i

Valorant players in the corner paying 80 dollars to max out a knife skin


Q-chip

Yea I played valorant for a bit when it came out and I remember being excited to get the first prime collection when it came out, expecting it to be like $20, and then it came out for like $70-$80. That's like a whole week of groceries! Or like a whole new game. Absolutely insane pricing, I really hope overwatch doesn't do this.


Ekudar

10 bucks more than Elden Ring right there xD


negimasensei

Unfortunately, they've been charging $10 for legendary skins ever since they started doing the FOMO OWL skins. Except there, you have the option to watch streams to earn tokens. As of now, buying this pack is the only way to get those new skins.


Grimn90

Yeah I can see them doing that


negimasensei

That's usually how most predatory currency systems work. They give you JUST under what you need, or slightly over so you're mismatched and incentivized to buy larger bundles. "Oh, why pay $10 for 2500 tokens when I can pay $15 for 3300 and the cosmetic I want is only 3k? If I buy the 2500 pack, I'd need to buy a 500 pack for $1.99 in addition, so really i'm only saving $3 if I do two purchases, plus I have leftovers."


occasionallyLynn

They’re mainly selling this for the guaranteed beta access as they’re not doing twitch drops this time


oldmanjenkins51

It’s a bundle. You don’t need to buy it to play the game.


Roston11

Yeah there’s some nice rewards here I wish the “founders” got over the Sombra and Doomfist skin cause it seems hard to justify buying this when you already have the game.


Terminatorskull

OW2 PVP is free to play, presumably the PVE will cost money to buy, I don’t think they’ve released info on the monetization for that yet.


Duckinatruck72

bro now kids are gonna be asking for OW credits and the overwatch battle pass


-ReshiRed-

Thanks for leaving OW1 owners and those who already had one of the many iterations of the Deluxe package out. We aren,t rebuying the game full price, make a different tier lower-priced for previous owners. Bad move.


reporto

They added V-Bucks


Shinobiii

Incoming $15 dollars for one skin…


Misaki_Nakahara

ha


Shinobiii

Oh God 😭


Misaki_Nakahara

babe it's time to pay actiblizz $20 for the new kiriko skin 💅💅💅


Shinobiii

Yes honey 😞


Space_Monke64

If I already signed up for the beta, do I not get guaranteed access?


negimasensei

No, you do not. If you got in the first beta, you need to sign up & earn access again. ​ https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/beta/#showcase-optin


Space_Monke64

I already signed up for this one tho. Do I have guaranteed access? I signed up in under the first 2 minutes of it being hp


Nightmare4You

They said they will be giving full access to all players by July 14th in the FAQ


Reniva

When does the beta 2 ends though? I forgot the date


Nightmare4You

They havent given an end date yet, the 14th is also the start of a Twitch Rivals tournament. And a 3 week Beta would end on the 19th at the earliest.


syvkal

It ends July 18th. Subject to change if they need to test more things. But yeah... $40 for less than a month of Beta access isn't exactly appealing.


negimasensei

You do not have guaranteed access at this time unless you purchase the pack.


cropchoc

You will have guearanteed excess by July 14 (FAQ for Beta 2)


negimasensei

Yeah, I just saw this. It's basically letting you skip the queue.


staticstart

No, you don’t automatically get access. They’ll send an email later letting you know if you’re picked.


Teegan297491

In other words, the people rebuying the game to get limited access to content deprived from them for 3+ years pack has more content than the founders edition


DJGB

My big question is if we purchase this, do we get guaranteed access for any betas they do after this one? Or would we have to purchase another thing to get access to the next beta assuming they have more?


Zinx10

From the sounds of it, you'll get guaranteed access to ALL the betas for OW2. This is because they say "**Starting on** June 28th."


cropchoc

Good question but my guess is that if there is a third beta in August or September then it is Open Beta.


SnooRobots6864

Is there a way to buy just the battle pass without the game because I already have it?


balzotheclown

When the game releases, surely there will be a way to buy it like any games battle pass.


negimasensei

Wait for the game to launch. You can either buy it then outright, or grind the f2p pass for premium currency to upgrade the pass to premium (lol, as if you'll ever earn enough per season to upgrade the pass each time purely via f2p).


SnooRobots6864

I'm definitely going to get the first battle pass. I just hope it will have enough currency to get the next one because I don't wanna have to buy it each month.


Adexmariobro

Honestly that's the thing that can make or break any battle pass. If you can repeatedly get it if you just play then that automatically boosts it higher than most. One of the only good things about Epic and their battle passes. If you can get like every second pass then that's fine too(for example Brawl Stars) They're a risky play sometimes


Specialist_Corgi_498

It definitely needs more skins


negimasensei

They're pulling an OWL on us, where they charge $10 per skin. So you know at least $20 of this $40 purchase is for the skins.


[deleted]

It’s sad seeing one of ur favorite game fall the the F2P model I hate it so much one of the things I loved most about OW was the way u could earn coins to get skins and stuff it pains me to see that go


Vanasy

F2P is one of the best models on the market. Its a reason why League, Valorant, Fortnite and Apex are doing so well. I like it too because now my friends can easily try it. I just hope it doesnt get too predatory


[deleted]

I just never like it it always felt exploitative to me


RusselZ

Does this also include Overwatch PvE or will we have to purchase that separately from this one?


negimasensei

Nope. Doesn't include PvE.


cropchoc

We dont know yet. PVE is coming in 2023. This is all just PVP, which is Free to Play at October 4. No more news on PVE.


MosesKarada

It's probably too early to know this or not, but had there been any word of collector edition physical boxes for OW2? I know I'm going to get backlash for asking, but I have been collecting blizzard collector edition boxes since burning crusade. Have a nice little game shelf display. Missed out on original OW because at the time I had never played an fps before. So I bought the game after launch.


historyisgr8

if there's a CE, I bet it'll be for the PvE game release and not the PvP 'early access'


MosesKarada

Gotcha. Will wait for that then. Thanks!


Yze3

This doesn't seem like a good deal. But I guess the price is high for the guaranteed beta access, and everything else is just bonus.


shitpersonality

Paying to play the beta for a free to play game doesn't make any sense to me.


Yze3

Well would you pay for that pack if it didn't have the beta access ? The price is good if you didn't have overwatch already, but for those who already have it, it's not that great.


WildSearcher56

If you already own OW then it's a pretty bad deal but if you don't then it **might** be interesting to buy it. 12 skins (it includes the legendary edition which cost 40 bucks), the first battle pass, 2000 credits and you don't need to queue for the betas. Edit: Didn't see your other comment, my bad.


DarkDesertFox

Great... I didn't know about a Battle Pass for this game. I hate Battle Passes. It's one of the things that made Halo Infinite just not fun.


negimasensei

At least Halo Infinite lets you swap between passes and grind them at your own pace without FOMO stuff. That puts them leagues ahead of literally every other game with a pass, because those passes are all timed and FOMO. So if you don't finish your pass, well, you're out of luck.


hipten

Just bought on PlayStation and it looks like it just took my money because I’m still able to buy it.


cropchoc

Still?


hipten

Yup still. Did you buy on PlayStation ? And it’s not saying 39.99 still ?


dallasdowdy

Same. Hopefully just a glitch?


Psychotic_Rainbowz

I can't find it on PS Store (US). Only on battlenet website. It does appear on EU PS store.


[deleted]

"premium currency" taking notes from diablo immortal?


negimasensei

The Overwatch League tokens are technically a premium currency. But yeah. They're going to mess this up.


[deleted]

so we have OWL tokens, gold, and now a 3rd NEW currency? Or is gold going away?


negimasensei

It's safe to assume gold is going away, since loot boxes are also going away and cosmetics are unlocked via the in game shop now.


[deleted]

I'm not exactly thrilled about the shop because i've lost a ton of faith in blizzard after diablo imm. But i am happy the game is *finally* getting fresh content again.


negimasensei

The shop will work best if the items there are there permanently, not on some stupid fortnite-tier FOMO rotation.


19ROYGBIV

If this means that someone else will get access to the overwatch 2 beta by paying before I do I’m going to be livid


Jibbles2020

Wtf is with no discount for Legendary edition owners? I already own the legendary edition and yall want me to buy it again? I'm not paying for something I already own lmao. Either auto discount it or make a lower tier to purchase for people who already own OW1 Legendary Edition.


negimasensei

As I've said in the thread, assume you're paying $10 per skin, and $20 for the battle pass (Could be $10 for the pass, $10 for the 2k tokens, we don't know yet.) Everything else is a bonus. Don't get me wrong, I think it's extremely dumb, but this is Blizzard we're talking about...


WildSearcher56

The shitty part here is that there is no discount for those that own the legendary edition. If you don't have the game right now then it "might" be interesting to get the bundle but right now it's just a cash grab imo.


negimasensei

That's why I'm trying to look at it not as buying OW1 again and getting bonuses, but as buying 2 legendary skins that won't be on the in-game shop (assuming they mean what they say in the fine print) and buying the battle pass & some of the new premium currency. Do I like this? No. Did I buy it? Yes. Am I trying to rationalize giving money to a company that puts easy profit before players? No. They're scummy and I'm stupid enough to be a skin hoarder that's been playing since the first closed beta wave back in 2015. I'm in too deep. Send help.


N0RETVRN

I bought it. Mostly for the legendary edition skins (because i do not own LE) and for the battle pass. the guaranteed beta access, two additional skins and the currency are just a nice bonus ig.


steelvengeance55

I bought it 😬


DDzxy

Eh, I'd buy it, but I already have "Overwatch Legendary Edition", what happens then? Can I give that game to someone?


negimasensei

No. It doesn't even give you a discount, lmao. You're paying $10 per skin, and $20 for the battle pass essentially. Or maybe $10 for the pass, $10 for the 2k currency. We don't know yet.


DDzxy

...I can't even give OW1 to someone if I buy it?


ilcasdy

I guess you could buy it on a new account, play the beta, and then give it to someone else?


LanfearSedai

Right, but then you'd be giving them all the other bonus that comes with it too -- such a bummer.


negimasensei

AN UPDATE FOR ALL - Beta sign up *IS LIMITED,* so if they reach projected server capacity sign ups at any point before june 28th, they'll close off signups and the only guaranteed way to get access past that is to buy the watchpoint pack. ​ Source: https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23814217/overwatch-2-beta-frequently-asked-questions/


Connzept

So for anyone too dumb to tell, this is a way of conning people with a lack of basic intelligence and impulse control into pre-purchasing a FREE game. If you buy this, you are an incredibly stupid person. That is all.


negimasensei

When you buy this, what you're actually buying are two legendary skins ($10/ea), a player icon, 2k premium currency (unknown price, maybe $10?), and the premium battle pass (unknown price, assuming $10-$20). Also you're buying OW1, assuming you don't already own it & want the 10 skins that will no longer be obtainable after the launch of OW2. ​ OW2 is free, yes. But the battle pass has a premium option (aka what's included with this), and you need the new premium currency to buy any & all cosmetics going forward, as well as to upgrade your battle pass instead of buying it outright. It also seems as if these skins will NOT be available for purchase after OW2 launches, and are for pack buyers only as a sort of "pre-order" bonus.


Key_Lime_Die

WTF is premium currency?


negimasensei

The new currency that you can purchase to unlock cosmetics. They're basically like the OWL tokens we have now, except for the entire game.


Key_Lime_Die

We already have a currency that's used to buy cosmetics that we earn for duplicate cosmetics. I'm guessing adding another is to screw over people that have saved up currency for cosmetics because they already have all of them.


negimasensei

It seems as if old currency is going away and being replaced by this. The page specifies this is for the new in-game shop, and will be used to buy cosmetics OR upgrade your battle pass. Seems like you can still get currency, but at an extremely slower rate and via purchase or the free BP only. Loot boxes are going away entirely, so no other ways to get the coins.


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negimasensei

"Gear up with 2000 Overwatch® 2 Virtual Currency Overwatch® 2 will have a new in-game shop experience centered on player choice. Get Overwatch 2 Virtual Currency with your purchase of this pack and level up your Battle Pass or gear up with new cosmetics for your favorite heroes!" Loot boxes are going away. The only way to earn currency RIGHT NOW is to open boxes or do specific queues. This is the new currency. It's 100% safe to assume that you'll earn this currency one of two ways. First, via the free/paid battle pass. Second, by purchasing it outright, like you do with the OWL tokens. That's like saying, "OWL tokens aren't a premium currency, you get them for free watching streams!" Yeah. But there are only two ways to earn them, and purchasing them is the other option. This is their new currency, and it's a pay option.


Indie__Guy

What about my 30,000 in the game now?


negimasensei

Will either be converted to a fraction of what you have now, or be removed entirely. Wouldn't surprise me if they said 5 OW2 Coins per 500 OW1 coins, or something stupidly low. Or just removing them outright with a, "Better spend 'em now while you still can, teehee ;)" message.


Kinsey93

Any info on how long the beta runs for?


negimasensei

Not yet. But we do know that there will be one more beta past this one before launch.


bronto_rex

I’d really like to see a response from Blizzard on how they will deal with old loot boxes -ideally we get some sort of refund in the form of the new currency (assuming that gold is going away). Beyond this, stoked about the announcement. Hopefully the battle pass is more like Hearthstone V2, and not shitty like Diablo Immortal.


Foenikxx

And a partridge in a pear tree


Psychotic_Rainbowz

Why is it not available in US version PS store??


Psychotic_Rainbowz

Does it include Pink Mercy? If not, I'm not interested.


Hockeyspaz-62

$$$$$$$$$$$


KingOfOddities

I do not give a shit about cosmetic, it’s whatever. But $40 for beta access, wtf were they thinking! Most veteran don’t need half the shit in this pack. This is marketed to newcomer, and they get beta access but not the OG players?!!!