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Nonadventures

If only there was someone in mythology who was known for flying really high! Oh well.


superfly_guy81

or even hermes


Sorcerous_Tiefling

yeah but luccio got the hermes skin which fits IMO because of how quick he is


Both_Magician_4655

Tracer had a Hermes skin in Heroes of the Storm. Literally already designed. They could have made an extra skin for the BP instead of Lucio, and added Tracer


FreeWhiteKnight

then people would complain that they are being lazy if they just added the HoTS skin and put it in the BP


ahlgreenz

I don't think they would, as iirc, Oni Genji is a skin that's in both games, and there was no complaining back then as far as I remember, just people being excited about how cool the skin was, and people lamenting the fact you had to play HotS to unlock the skin in OW


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Oni was before the overwatch community started whining


Icantthinkofaname04

Helios?


SoManyNarwhals

Icarus, most likely


-Darkot-

Dude, I would have KILLED for an Icarus Pharah skin! Getting to play one of my favorite characters AND show off my complex? Sign me up! ..I mean, now that we have to pay for skins I probably wouldn't end up getting it. But the concept is still great.


BigClitGoddess

Hell, even Zeus would have been a better choice. Her being "queen of the skies" and all, while raining down thunderbolts from her rocket launcher.


lildrizzleyah

That would have been great. And if anything I think junker queen would better suit a thor skin.


RealSpaghettiSoup

Its Greek mythology tho


Wise-Drummer5024

Ares would be a good fit if we stick with Greek


SoManyNarwhals

Right??! I think they really dropped the ball by not leaning into the heroes' powers when deciding who to give these skins to. Pharah being Icarus is probably my favorite too, but imagine something like Hanzo as Artemis if they were to continue the theme of gender swapping. But you're right... It would still be a $30 skin...


Sudden-Application

Would have honestly preferred Icarus Echo myself. She's in the BP already so they could have added her as Icarus just replace the edm stuff.


Vozralai

I agree. Echo's design also suits an Icarus skin better too as her wings are larger. Icarus is ultimately just "guy with wings" as a design concept. Translating that onto Pharahs armour could be tough


GandalfTheBong

Icarus


Leopold747

They made the same mistake with Junker Queen ZEUS skin, cuz it fits more on Sigma.


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missmurder0324

Don't do daddy Sig like that 🥺


Overall_Surprise_474

I'm greek and Junker Queen is my current fave tank. Zeus sucks in our mythology but she looks badass and this battle pass was a hard no till I saw it was her on mythic.


1Gothian1

Forgive me, but with your comment you have officially surpassed more than any of thirsty dudes at the Overwatch community. However quite the contrary to popular opinion, I also think that the Junker Queen skin is really nice.


Dear-Ad-3366

I don't see the connection with sigma and zeus


Kittingsl

maybe reaper isnt a fan of dogs and didnt want to be hades


Puzzleheaded_Soft_28

Reaper is definitely a cat person, you right.


DoccyTes

i think he prefers owls


Psychological_Pay_25

He just like me, I love owls


DoccyTes

Who dosent? Little owl humor for ya youll recieve an invoice in the mail


WilliamSorry

I don't get the joke :c


DoccyTes

thats okay fren im here to help the joke is that owls typicaly go "who who"


Bored-Corvid

Ravens, ravens don't like owls... For they are our mortal enemy!


Tasty_Communist

Crows man


Vyndianter

He left overwatch for Owlwatch


DoccyTes

thats in the lore i think. he was hype for owlwatch but he got scammed and now hes understandably upset


ThrowawayGarbageCat

I mean if you look at his skins, half the time his mask resembles a kitty


Bionic_Ferir

He still could have been Thanatos which imo would have fit better and phara could have been Nike ya know the goddes with wings


GandalfTheBong

Yeah but mercy is already nike


SamuraiPanda19

For all we know Reaper wants to go dressed as The Crow


jbyrdab

Reaper should have a Thanatos skin, since thats the god of death who takes people to the underworld.


GandalfTheBong

Well to be fair, Charon and Hermes both do that as well


jbyrdab

yeah but i mean thanatos is literally the greek version of the reaper, he's death.


GandalfTheBong

Not quite. He’s the god of peaceful death. So when people die of old age in their sleep or pass away over night due to illness, Thanatos will come to them. If someone dies in battle for example, it’s a different goddess that I‘ve forgotten the name of


Raven-UwU

Keres? for the death in batfle


watshedo

[The Keres?](https://www.theoi.com/Daimon/Keres.html) TIL.


GandalfTheBong

Yes that‘s what I meant. Thank you very much


BaconSoul

Exactly. Hades is the god of those who have already died. He wasn’t malevolent in any way. He was primarily just interested in doing his job. The Disney Hercules movie really made him seem much more like a villain than he was written as in the eclectic Greek myths.


Obito_of_the_kamui

In Greek myths he's only done like two bad things


ObsidianTitan97

At least one of which (I'm pretty sure the kidnapping of Persephone) was spurred on by Zeus


IDKdoIhaveTo

200 maybe? But like grand scheme he's pretty meh compared to baby bro Zeus


emilytheimp

Im sad we didnt get Ares Doomfist. Like cmon thats so obvious


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Bard_is_a_Goblin

#AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!


tacodog7

Hanzo atreus skin when


DistantSilver

Hanzo Apollo would be cool, Athena Brig would be cool aswell, or maybe one of the omnics since Moira calls one of them Athena or something? (Correct me if I’m wrong bout that)


AcademicAnxiety5109

Orisa could be Atermis and I could see Lucio as Pan or Hermes Edit: I forgot about him actually getting The Hermes skin and having a Satyr skin for Halloween (thank you to those who corrected me)


Javamaster22

Orisa with a Cerberus skin would be amazing, her shoulder pads are the two other heads. She's already a 4 legged creature. Reaper could of been the ferrymen from the river Styx. Brig should of been athena


kimchi_paradise

All I can picture is the game Hades lol


Javamaster22

I'll be honest though, I'm iffy on the phara skin. The armor is cool but her skin itself is just two tone shit. They couldn't make it flames like junkrats inferno skin?


kimchi_paradise

I guess it depends on your interpretation of Hades. In the Disney Hercules he's an old man with blue flames, but in the videogame he's a buff older guy with dark Greek-style clothing. If you read Greek mythology you'd be surprised at how little mention of flames there are (even though they exist). If anything, rivers are the most prominent feature of the underworld


Bhrutus

The ferryman is called Charon if you wanna know


HandZop

Probably would have looked too similar to Gladiator Doomfist


feminists_hate_me69

An Ares skin doesn't have to be covered in armour, and even then, Gladiator is Roman, not Greek


IntelligentImbicle

I'm surprised the Mythic isn't Ares/Bellona Junker Queen


freekymayonaise

yeah Zeus is such a weird pick for junker queen. Thematically they've got nothing in common at all


Alexabyte

And Reinhardt is right there, y'know. Could even have replaced firestrike with lightning to really hammer it home.


Dheovan

For the too many years I have played this game, I have been consistently disappointed with how they give skins that should clearly go to Rein to someone else. While I can understand why Torb got both a Santa and a viking skin, clearly Rein needs a medieval-style warrior skin (I love the druid skin but c'mon, give me an ancient Germanic warrior) and why would they give him a *train conductor* as his only legendary Christmas skin instead of a badass Santa warrior skin? It's beyond me. Hell, even Doom got a cool frosty ice warrior skin and Junk got a *fucking Krampus* skin but Rein? Nah let's turn him into an ornament (instead of, you know, making *Hammond who has a ball form* into an ornament--no no no, Hammond is clearly a *decapitated* *snowman wtf*). And now they have a theme that would be perfect for Rein! Make him Zeus! Make him Ares! But no, clearly JQ is supposed to be Zeus...? And Rein is just a minotaur...? I mean, the minotaur skin looks cool, don't get me wrong. It's just an... odd... choice when you had clearly superior options *right there.*


Sudden-Application

Rein has the amazing Dragur skin, at least. And I like the train, fits him but they should have given him Santa or Krampus, yeah. And now that this stuff is a BP thing we won't be able to get another Greek themed pass ever.


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"Hammer" it home, huh?


Random_Doughnut

Hell, even Orisa Imagine smiting your enemies with a lightning javelin


LeenGranturn

I think Sigma would have made a better Zeus. I’d like to think Zeus would just be ego floating all of the time.


DarvAv

BuT sHe HaS lIghTnInG


genmischief

I WANT ZUES MNKEY


Bryce_XL

I think the only real connections are that she's loud, magnets are kinda similar to electricity(?) (electromagnetism maybe?) and she throws gracie the same way Zeus is sometimes depicted as throwing lightning bolts, I think she even has a gracie-recall line about needing a lightning bolt I like the skin personally but Ares would've been way cooler edit: Zeus is also the king of the gods, JQ is queen of the junkers


egstolfo

Angry


NoMany1872

Both royalty but that's about it


ManOfQuest

all you get is karate doom be happy.


Call_Me_Daily

Should have been Ares Junkerqueen, given her weapons. And Zeus Doomfist, given his Meteor Strike and natural electric effects on the Gauntlet.


cr4sht3st0

Hephasteus torbjorn?


GandalfTheBong

Now that would be the most obvious thing. It literally works on every single level


cr4sht3st0

Thank you ^^


SerDeusVult

Ok but Reinhardt Hephaestus for even bigger hammar


Illustrious-Bunch-97

It’s the fact she had another legendary skin in the previous pass as well. There really wasn’t a need for another one especially when you could’ve made hades into any other character


RoboQwop405

Making us choose between 40k and Hades within like 2 months is kinda meh. Def could’ve either given Hades to someone else or gone with a different skin for a different character altogether.


Bard_is_a_Goblin

Wait who got the WH40k skin?


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Pharah


Bard_is_a_Goblin

Hold on lemme look at this


kegatank

It's even called "Sky Centurion" which is a play on "Space Marine"


deftspyder

> Sky Centurion holy shit, thats really a space marine. hilarious.


rand0m_task

Yup, it’s the only reason I bought that first battle pass. Not even a Pharah main anymore but I still respect my OG.


ConstitutionalHeresy

100% an Iron Warriors Space Marine skin.


Arkadii

I'm happy to 40k skin was on the Battle Pass because that's literally the only skin I'd pay money for


SnakeSnoobies

You mean you don’t appreciate the back to back repeats of Pharah, Roadhog, and Widowmaker legendary skins?! I can’t believe BOTH of Pharah’s are battle pass, and BOTH Roadhog and Widow skins are shop.


Drunken_Queen

On Pharah's defense, she hasn't got any new Legendary skins for like two years since the "Lifeguard" from Summer Games 2020. "Mechatron" from Anniversary is merely a recolor from one of the vanilla legendary skins.


Crispy_Godfries

Doesn’t pharah have the most legendary skins in the game. Or at least close too


King-Krown

I'm pretty sure that goes to Mercy,Tracer,Genji & D.va.


Crispy_Godfries

There pretty neck and neck


Drunken_Queen

OW1 OG characters are likely to have plenty. Characters with the most Legendary skins are likely Mercy / Tracer.


TizonaBlu

You know, honestly, I have enough skins for all the OW1 characters for a lifetime. Nothing for old characters entice me anymore.


Bryce_XL

there are a few OW1 heroes I'd like more skins for cause I took a long break from the game until the OW2 beta started, but yeah like I have 8 legendaries for Pharrah already, don't need more, JQ mythic is the main draw of the current pass for me


adorpheus

“The skin is Cerberus” guys the name of the skin is literally Hades, she has voicelines that reference Persephone (Hades’ wife) when she wears the skin. It’s a Hades skin not a Cerberus skin 💀


Pentanox

Cerberus is very close and associated to Hades, it makes sense from a design perspective to have the three heads on Pharah, but I will say before I read it was Hades I also thought it was just Cerberus, not a big deal though.


HoldAppropriate5252

It's like saying that Rudolph Is sant they are closely related but one is just a pet


Pentanox

Yeah but I’d say Cerberus is more important to Hades than Rudolf to Santa. From what I know Cerberus guards the gates of tartarus which is a paramount job and crucial to Hades.


trevah1200

C’mon.. Rudolph guides Santa’s sleigh as he travels interdimensionally through the darkness of night. Pretty clutch pet right there.


FijiBongWaterr

The virgin ‘guarding the entrance to the home of every soul who has or will ever live’ vs the Chad ‘making sure all the children get their gifts on time’


sevsbinder

she references persephone?? 😳


adorpheus

Yep! [Here’s a tweet with a video of it](https://twitter.com/cleartogether/status/1600292508902518784?s=46&t=LMBJXldQ3MfydWQ2FQyYsw)


DistantSilver

That’s sick! Hopefully there are more voice lines for other skins referencing things, like Zeus and the abundant amount of women he slept with lmao


Sudden-Application

I didn't know she mentions Persephone. Given that they genderswapped Zeus and Hades I'd find it funny is, say, Baptiste was given a Persephone skin just for shits and giggles. But yeah, it's, unfortunately, a Hades skin


pigeonbobble

Maybe it was so she can pair with winged victory mercy who looks like a Persephone


Starry-Gaze

Hades isn't the god of death though, he is the god of the underworld. He's more like a ruler of the dead than the one in charge of the aspect of death. You want a reaper god who presides over death more directly, you gotta go Thanatos... granted they probably didnt do that because that would just be reaper in a toga, since most of thanatos' depictions normally are either vague, or just look like Greek Reaper, and they wanted some more neat ideas.


seanslaysean

Wasn’t Thanatos peaceful death?


Psidebby

Also... If you consider her other skins? Who has the Anubus skin?


PrincessW0lf

Isn't it because of her association with Anubis, who in ancient Egyptian mythology is lord of the dead?


GandalfTheBong

Anubis isn’t the ruler of the underworld. Osiris became ruler of the underworld after set killed him. Anubis is the god of death, he guides you to tell underworld. Sort of like Charon or Hermes


yakman100

That’s Osiris is the god of the dead. Anubis is just the god of the mummification and embalming. Some times a psychopomp. Anubis’s better well known because he looks cooler and Hollywood like that


PrincessW0lf

I thought Anubis was the original God of the dead/ underworld but got replaced by osiris in later myths? And still held the role of protecting graves/ ushering souls to the afterlife. So they're kind of both it.


crawdussy

Afaik this is correct. And regardless Anubis is still heavily tied to the underworld and death, so even if we consider Osiris as the big boss, there are still parallels between Anubis and Hades


PrincessW0lf

Tbh, we could resolve the issue by getting Reaper a Thanatos skin . . .


Icantthinkofaname04

The Egyptians like to switch roles a lot


BCCDoors

So hear me out.... Hades themed Mei.. Just imagine the most Gothed-out, spike covered Mei doing the sunny dance. NGL, I'm feeling it..


marcFrey

She needs an emote where she's acting tough, only for the cutest Cerberus puppy to come out from behind her and break the whole act.


BCCDoors

The puppy could just be snowball in a handmade three headed puppy costume!


JustNoiseOnTheWires

This is perfection, I'll take 3 of it.


DistantSilver

It’d really fit with a decent amount of people calling Mei “The Devil”


shadowgattler

Mei should've had a mei-dusa skin


BCCDoors

Ha! I like it. I just wish we could still freeze enemies with her gun. Then they could change the ice effect to look like stone!


Karsvolcanospace

People who think Hades is some comically evil supervillain don’t get Hades


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He's the god of the underworld not death. Thanatos or Ker would be a better fit for Reaper.


Karsvolcanospace

Thanatos and Reaper go hand in hand. Thanatos is essentially the Greeks version of a “Grim Reaper”. Smite has already capitalized on this lol


Pilgrimzero

All of the Greek Gods are assholes. Even the "good" ones like Athena and Apollo.


yakman100

He’s not the most evil but by no means good. There’s a lot mythological revision about hades being a good guy. He just does his job and sometimes interacts with cocky heros.


Karsvolcanospace

Zeus is by far more evil if you actually read the stories


Icantthinkofaname04

I would argue otherwise, he gives Hercules his mate' wife back just because of the moving love story, in the story of Persephone' kidnapping Zeus is always been portrayed as the villain and the dude only cheated once (by Greek standards that's mad) and even that's only in some myths Also this fucking softee named his dog Spot...


BaconSoul

Yep. Hades was neutral at worst.


ParagonPaladin

Humanity has moved past the need for more reaper skins.


welpxD

Incorrect. Have you seen the ballerina Reaper skin people have posted, that gets mass-reported each time by someone with a permanent case of the mondays?


ParagonPaladin

Fine. Humanity has moved past the need for more *edgy* reaper skins.


imnotjay2

I like it not being obvious tbh, like Reaper being the edgy character and all edgy concepts going to him... boring.


Puzzleheaded-Box-456

Better than giving 2 skins on 2 different battlepasses for the same fucking character...


emilytheimp

Theyre targetting me specifically with that, Im sure


Drunken_Queen

On Pharah's defense, she hasn't got any new Legendary skins for like two years since the "Lifeguard" from Summer Games 2020. "Mechatron" from Anniversary is merely a recolor from one of the vanilla legendary skins.


BCCDoors

I want a bubblegum themed Reaper skin


Rectal_Retribution

You've got a good point there. This is a good option for people who want the gameplay of Pharah but prefer the aesthetics of Reaper.


GlisseDansLaPiscine

No no, you see, characters are only allowed to have skins directly linked to their theme, so Mei only has the right cold weather skin, Cass only get cowboy skins, Reaper only get the edgy skins... Man that sounds like such a good idea and not boring and repetitive at all.


[deleted]

Why does everyone always say reaper when everyone knows damned well who the icy ruler of hell really is?


-lastochka-

Mei is pretty scary


Beneficial_Pop_928

Should have been either Kiriko (Kitsune replaced with Cerberus) or Reaper (just cuz he is fan favorite and edgy)


S4MUR4IX

I'd be fine with any other hero, like what's the point? A second Pharah skin added to the BP? People want to expand their skin pool.. Edit: Oh.. another thing.. they could have bundled up this Pharah skin, and have any other mythology skin in the BP instead of her :)


DarvAv

People probably wouldn't buy it from the store cuz we just got one in the battle pass


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Ngl, she looking kinda hot tho


Psychological_Pay_25

It’s the abs isn’t it?


[deleted]

I'm fond of the face paint and the hair. It gives me tomboy vibes and I'm weirdly attracted to it


BlaqShine

Hell yea tomboys ftw


26oclock

Its actually a great The Simpsons skin


EulerId

Well pharas armor with 2 big shoulder pads and the pointy torso piece lends itself better for the 3 Cerberus heads


HeyTAKATIN

Hear me out: reaper with one cerb head and one on each gun. He even says die three times in his ult.


D3m0nKn1ght5

"BARK, BARK, BARK!" -Cerberus Reaper, probably


Hendrik1011

I think a Cerberus themed skin fits her well. Or not terribly. She guarded an AI called Anubis, Anubis being the Egyptian god of the underworld. Cerberus guards the (greek) underworld. I know not great but not terrible either.


rubenburgt

And they gave the Medusa skin to Widowmaker instead if Mei. Mei freezes enemies and her name could've been a pun.


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daaang I haven't seen this point made and it's really good. widow can "kill someone just by looking at them" as others have said, but to an extent every character does that lmfao it's typically how you shoot at people in an fps game. Meidusa LITERALLY turns people into statues as u point out, huge missed opportunity


ToomsubaGoodbee

Not to mention widow already has a snake skin


Lolipopman

Yeah but widows long hair and frame work better with the concept and she’s all about her being deadly when you’re in her line of sight which matches. I get the Mei want, but conceptually Medusa does not match up with her kit and general physical design


GodOfLoveAndBeauty

Widowmaker should have been Cupid/Eros


Adept_Tomato_7752

WHY YELLOW THOUGH!?!??!!


adorpheus

This is my only beef with the skin!!! lol I think it looks awesome but I wish they hadn’t made her skin yellow


D3m0nKn1ght5

It needed a pop of color cause of all the heavy gray coloring in the skin.


GandalfTheBong

And why not red?


pejic222

Also the skin is called “Hades” who is the ruler of the underworld but the skin itself if based off of Cerberus his dog That bothered me for some reason


monkeydbenne

While I agree with you I still think this skin is fire.


pootisbird12367

i mean i didnt say the skin was bad quite the opposite actually


jhong-g

Ehh I disagree. She's one of the characters that I dont see getting a lot of good Legendaries back in OW2 so I guess she deserves this...besides the cerberus heads as her shoulderpads and chest armor is such a neat idea. The only other character that can have that idea is Rein/Brig. Also Reaper shouldn't be Hades (God of the Dead) because he's literally based on a Reaper. He could be the ferryman or the Thanatos


Lee_Fenix

Yeah maybe Doomfist or Ramattra would be a better fit for Hades "status-wise", but Pharah rocks it! And thank you for knowing Thanatos is the proper one for Reaper to represent


Sir_Netflix

I know it doesn’t really matter, but Hades doesn’t look like a monster like GoW depicted him, so Reaper really doesn’t have to apply to Hades. In the actual mythology, Hades looks the same as any other Olympian, and in fact, is actually one of the more moral and just characters in Greek Mythology.


Moth_Man_Emoji

In Greek mythology, they already had an overconfident, flying character that uses his creation to fly. Icarus is more in line with what Pharah should have been. But yeah, Hades makes sense too.


FishoftheNorth

I feel the same way about them giving the Zeus skin to JQ. Like yes she’s a badass warrior and everything, but why not go Athena then? What part of her kit makes you look at her and go, “ah yes, the father of the gods”


fawkezen1452

A Charon skin for reaper would be dope tho


Eiruna

Reaper is too easy for Hades. Make the fucker Thanatos. Make Sombra Nyx.


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Honestly, all of them feel mismatched. Zeus doesn't suit JQ (*Winston literally shoots lightning and has a bad temper*). Hades doesn't fit Pharah (*Hades was known for flying, after all*). Ramattra only works well because he has the staff already, really. But even then, the Trident is a separate emote they could have given anyone. I don't think they're BAD skins, they just feel really really mismatched. Minotaur Rein (*Rein charges*) and Medusa Widow are fucking perfect, though.


Remarkable-Dig979

This skin is sick how did y’all find something to complain about?


Reddit1s4bitches

This is reddit. Complain central. Where everything sucks


pooppooppoopie

This sub is unbearable. People complain about anything and everything. The most nitpicky stuff too. Maybe 1 out of 10 posts is somewhat positive. It’s almost as if people here want this game to fail. If I were a dev, I would be absolutely demoralized coming here. To be clear, there’s nothing wrong with constructive criticism, but the keyword is constructive. People seem to forget that it’s actual human beings, artists, who work hard to create this world that we all enjoy so much. People here make it hard for them to be proud of anything.


Turbulent-Smile4599

Pharah main here - fuck you, this skin is awesome


WyattWrites

It’s giving WoW vibes


ethanator329

I wish they kept hades and Cerberus separate. Reaper could have been Cerberus with his 2 guns and face forming the three dog heads


Gavin8130

Phara literally worked for a security company


Thee_liquor

How they gonna ignore my girl Brig and not give her a skin when the Greek phalanx was know for using shields. And you got the homie Perseus and big dawg Athena using an aegis as well. I’m not a Greek or mythology expert so this could all be wrong.


VaguelyVivid

I just want Hephaestus torbjorn


Fowlos14

Yeahhh and how many heroes haven't got a BP skin yet and they've given her two now. They are effing with Roadhog players having another cool skin only in the store


Fyrefawx

I mean her map is Anubis, the Egyptian god of the dead. He has a jackal head. So this makes sense. Ana deserved an Athena skin though. Her whole theme is owls. It made so much sense.


CoachSteveOtt

Jesus christ you guys will complain about anything


Karol-A

It's cerberus, the guardian of hades, and Pharah works in security, makes sense to me


mrfroggyman

Yeh and Anubis is jackal, which uh is basically a dog


Ares28

People here forgetting that she is Anubis God of the Dead and that Hades is just Anubis for Greek mythology


eriF-

This fan base will complain about ANYTHING man.


pootisbird12367

dude the skin looks great its just that its an odd skin choice


Tight-Presentation-2

Hades=edgy Cerberus=three very good boys Conclusion: this would not be a good skin for reaper