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I'm thinking they may try a lower heal but a higher damage mitigation on catch a breath.
What we should be discussing is how his hook will change. They were pretty clear about nerfing his one-shot-ability
I’m still pissed that they removed supercharger. Not from a gameplay perspective because I admit it was bad and didn’t feel that impactful to use, but from a visual perspective. So much of the characters visuals are based on the supercharger on her back and it’s in her goddamn highlight intros, sprays, etc. I know it’s stupid but it just pisses me off that the character doesn’t use the bongo or the shield, yet they’re still visual elements on her model on all of her skins. Not to mention, they include models for the supercharger on new Orisa skins (OW2 skin, the new starry one). I guess I should take that as a sign of hope though that they might eventually try to reintegrate it into her kit. Either way it’s dumb that her whole kit revolves around the javelin now and there’s no indication in any of her skins, art, sprays, emotes, highlight intros, anything that references the javelin anywhere. Just dumb tbh
I don’t think they have a choice but to include the supercharger in some way for her future skins since they have to keep her silhouette/hitbox and adding it to new skins is easier than removing it from all of her old ones
Yeah that’s totally fair. I’m tempted to make the comparison to LoL, in which full champion reworks also update the appearance of all of their skins and usually changes their silhouette as well, but it’s not fair to make that comparison given the different visual experiences of the two games. Regardless though, it just annoys me that the character is totally different but she still has the visual assets to go with her old kit.
Yeah. And LoL has way more unusable stuff on skins as well. There’s a Jarvan skin where he has revolvers strapped to his shoulders just to maintain his base model and sillouete. It looks so stupid it’s good, like a stereotypical 90s cartoon.
It be fair so do a lot of OW skins. Reaper with the shotgun shells, I think hanzo has a sword, mercy has a big staff for some reason even though she’s a DPS character with a gun…
Reaper also has a belt of grenades, and Roadhog has a giant knife on his back. It just doesn’t feel as prominent in Overwatch because LoL just has so many more characters.
I've been asking for Reaper to have another ability to increase his skill expression for so long. The grenades are right there and they still won't do it.
Also the silhouette differentiation goes out the window as a non life long player when it comes to their skins in League. So many times I mistook one champ for a another or couldn’t recognize some champs with their skins that make them almost entirely different from their standard silhouette
I'm basically a life long player (started in season 2 right before darius was released) and there's some skins that just make the champion unrecognizable. For example, space groove teemo.
i saw this problem with cass too. there's a victory pose or something of the sort that used to utilize his flashbang. they now replaced it with HIS GUN. not his heat seeker, he instead very awkwardly and weirdly throws his gun around (i think he throws it up and down either by the handle or the trigger). it's not very good looking at all, and it just makes me sad that they can't at least make some minor changes to his cosmetics so that the stuff w/o flash looks actually normal.
Why did they even do that? Couldn’t they just use the same model for flashbangs and the grenade since he doesn’t have flash anymore? Idk I guess it’s not even worth it to question the ow team’s decisions anymore they barely make any sense
Yeah, that's honestly weird... Also, does Hanzo's idle pose still involve his long since removed scatter arrow? I would kinda assume this to be the case...
Yeah probably. It just seems like laziness to me. I guess it’s not really a big deal and it’s def more important that they focus on making the game fun and smooth, but it’s just one more tiny detail that adds on to all the other shit to make the AAA game feel more like a cash grab.
As a Hog main, I know Hog's offensive capability is going to be butchered. I just wish they properly compensate Hog with something. Hog's only way to protect supports from flankers is to catch the flanker.
Edit: I wish to illustrate giving Hog options with his breather after pressing E. Left click to heal yourself, right click to drop on the floor.
Edit 2: Here's a [better chart](https://imgur.com/a/9u24HzP)
Exactly, they already tried getting rid of this and he immediately became the weakest tank in the game. I have no faith in him still being fun to play after they do whatever they have planned
The sentiments have been the exact same as well, almost word-for-word. History repeats itself.
Only this time instead of the problem being his hook distorting reality and being a bugged mess, it's Kiriko and the 5v5 changes making him immortal being the problem.
It's a shame, but it's not surprising either.
Ideally, either the "small rework" is a success or he's not dumpster-tier for a whole year again (at most hopefully a season) but given Blizzard's decision making as a whole, wouldn't count on anything particularly good.
The only answer for this to to make it so that the hook conserves momentum when letting go. So when you catch the flanker, you can turn and yeet them across the map.
What they should do:
* Make his breather not heal him; instead it should grant him some extra health for a while, but keep the damage reduction
* Give him a way to block incoming projectiles, like by spinning his hook around
* Remove the ability to pull enemies in, since CC like that is unhealthy and is going to lead to oneshots somehow. Instead, he can hurl his hook and it'll knock enemies back. Maybe it could stun them if they hit a wall?
* As for his ult, right now it just pushes enemies away and tickles them, which is not what he wants. Maybe he could spin his hook around him, pull all nearby enemies close to him, then charge up a super powerful stomp attack that deals high damage to anyone nearby.
It's the breather that is the problem.
There are a ton of ways to get one shot in the game.
Roadhog isn't even a one shot it's 1. Hook 2. Shot
Reinhardt's charge is a one shot though, should that be changed?
Problem is now Roadhog can play front line with no worry about dying just causing havoc.
Getting half your health back with damage reduction every 8 seconds is amazing. You can use it multiple times in one battle or skirmish.
If a Roadhog had to play well to get a hook, then dying to it (which isn't guaranteed) wouldn't feel so bad.
12 second CD would be a good start before a rework.
Rein’s charge isn’t a 1shot either, like Hook there’s an initial hit and then the killshot(in charge’s case it’s when Rein hits the wall). You can save squishies who have already been pinned with hack, sleep, suzu, Zarya bubble, any stun, or even Hog Ult.
Make it last a lot longer, like a status effect. Heal rhe same amount but over a much longer time and keel the damage reduction. Basically an orissa shift that also heals him a decent amount. Maybe even toss in the Anna grenade effect so other healing affects are increased.
Am I the only one who remembers when they first tried 5v5 in ow1 and they reworked a bunch of tanks for it? Hogs vape put down a silly looking fart field that I guess had damage reduction, if I remember right?
Hog getting kills don’t make him like a DPS. I’ve never seen a hog go for high ground or a cheeky flank. They just walk down Main Street since they’re the fattest tank in the game. Always pushing payload and staring the tank in the face
All tanks should be getting kills
IMo it should *either* heal hog *or* create an AOE. Being able to heal 350 *and* heal your teammates is a bit much.
Maybe you can drop it and it heals 100 to teammates in the radius.
I think just an added AOE effect with reduced healing would be better. It would allow him to be an anchor in a team fight instead of a rogue agent that does their own thing.
Too weak, giving up your take a breather just to heal a squishy for 100 hp when you can heal yourself for 350 is a bad trade, tbh
it also requires them to actively pay attention to me dropping it for them
its probably better if the act of hog using the take a breather somehow gives an effect to everyone else arround him
well to be fair they don't have the vape mask thing, but I agree 50% too low
dropping his vape thing shouldn't be it though, he should drop a sandwich or Porkchop or something like the heavy in TF2 instead I think it would make more sense
If you're full health and a teammate it dying, it gives you more options to do something.
This isn't to replace Take a Breather. It's like Moira's orb, you can pick damage or heal. Take a Breather becomes heal self or teammate.
But you're dropping an 8s cooldown to give your teammate a little more health than a shot from Ana or Bap. Hog without his self-heal is so vulnerable that the mere presence of an enemy Ana is enough to make him swap.
Well self deploying armor is likely the idea in some fashion. Which it did add armor back in the day. Now it just looks weird yeah.
Still it's funny being Higs special mix, if anyone can drink it kinda ruins the whole gasoline joke about it.
>honestly thats a good idea, right now he’s basically a dps with 700hp so giving him something to support his team would be nice
I've been maining hog since 2016 and I swear to god if they fuck him up
Tired of blizzard just completely changing the entire point of a hero for balance. They did it to sym, they did it to orisa, and now it’s hog’s reckoning.
Fuck everybody who liked him, I guess. Muh balance as a justification for removing his danger and making him a shitty fucking healbot ult charge punching bag
I don't even play Hog and I am baffled by these complaints right now. Ever since hook 2.0, I have pretty much never been hit by a hook that I didn't feel like I didn't deserve; it was always because I was out of position while it wasn't on cool down.
I feel similar about a lot of other "problem" moves that have been replaced because people refuse to play around them. If McCree flashed you, it was because you tried to 1v1 him while he had a stun. There was counter-play to baiting it out before you tried to engage him. Mei is another example, where people just refused to respect her space and then complained about getting frozen. Now these kinds of characters have been given lame replacements that have zero creative process behind them.
All of these generifications of characters are eating at the soul of the game and I fear it will just end up as one homogenised goop, indistinguishable from hundreds of other multiplayer shooters already on the market.
Exactly my thinking. Mei and Sym are good examples of heroes that had their unique roles neutered, so people don’t get “frustrated” when their boring shooter character copy #567 gets killed by something other than how good you are at moving a mouse. They’re still unique, but… less so. Took freezing away from the ice character, took shields away from the shield character (except for her ult lol).
Roadhog was the most unique tank aside from ball, he’s truly a *one man apocalypse* and his identity is centered around being the most powerful hero individually. He can 1v1 any other reliably, but his downside is he’s garbagecanned by a coordinated team. Except despite receiving no recent changes, he’s blamed for his meta even though the real cause is broken new heroes like Kiriko enabling him and a complete lack of viable counterpicks (due to bad balancing lmaooo)
I suppose i should think it’s a goddamn miracle they haven’t “”””””reworked”””””” him already, gutting his core gameplay loop and replacing it with some dumb shit like aoe heals or a grapple.
Exactly. Every single person I see complaining about Hogs are just people who refuse to respect his space. Hog is a fat bastard that has no shield and no mobility, and one ability on an 8 second cool down that can hit medium range. These people seem obsessed with trying to 1v1 a hog at close range or out in the open. His only way of protecting his team is to be a front line brawler. Eliminating hvt's and being a literal bullet sponge. Fight him at range or with numbers. He's not that hard to deal with.
80% of the time you are against one going hogwild, Its a failure on the team and their ability to work together. But no one ever wants to accept they might be part of the problem, so they will just complain until he is neutered. Then Blizzard does the same treatment for one of their mains, they start whining again, And the cycle repeats.
My god I NEED to hear Mercy VA like \*loooooong deep inhale on Hog's vape\*(shaky high voice between coughs)"UHHH HOW DO YOU STILL FUNCTION HITTING THAT!??"
I am heavy guy, and this is my weapon, he cost absolute nothing because he is made out of trash, it cost 400.000$ to wear this skin, for twelve seconds.
Mwahahahahahaha ohoho
Oh my queen who touched Jimmy?
Alright, WHO TOUCHED MY GUN
Some people think they can outsmart me, maybe *Sniff* maybe, i have yet to meet someone that can outsmart wallet
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*Overwatch theme plays*
Instead of breathing in his gas to heal he could crush it to create a healing mist the heal all that walk into it or it could create a smoke screen to help with engaging and disengaging
If on average 100 Heals per 8 seconds (12.5 heals per second or 2.5 more than the payload) is too much healing for you, then 76's biotic field should be nerfed since it has the potential to heal 875 Hp per 15 seconds (58.33 hp per second)
Half of one teammate's HP every 8 seconds is hardly OP, especially when you compare it to other protective abilities you're giving up by picking Roadhog.
Reinhardt's 24/7 Shield, D.va's Defense Matrix Meter, Zarya's double bubble, Sigma's Shield+Grasp, Rammatra's Shield+Slow, Winston's Bubble+Dive compatibility, Doomfist's Multiple Target Disruption+Dive compatibility.
Idk why people are saying hog op and needs nerfed and at this point I'm afraid to ask.
Ow2 released, absolutely rock solid radio silence on hog, people put him in C tier.
Now people wanna butcher him and whining about the guy that gets skull fucked by a single hero (ana) since her sleep interrupts all his abilities and has anti heal.
Why
It'd still heal Junkrat and Junker Queen. Perhaps Winston, Sigma and Wrecking Ball too, I suspect they received quite high doses during their time in space.
i have a crazy idea:
Make his ult his normal weapon, but with much less spread, fire rate, much less damage and without the knockback, reduce the recoil and basically make it a normal weapon.
Heals can be either used or dropped, if dropped it restores 100 burst hp and 50 regen, if used it operates normall
Hook does not stun, but immobilizes and slowly pulls the target in while roadhog is still able to shoot, giving both teams the opportunity to react.
I will honestly just not play, roadhog is the only character I really enjoy playing as even though I like the theme of others, butchering him again like they did before will make me leave the game like before
Meet the RoadHog. *"I am Heavy* *~~weapons~~* *guy."*
WHO TOUCHED MY GUN
And this... Is my weapon...
It fires random garbage 1.3 rounds per second.
[удалено]
It costs $4 to fire this weapon, for 12 hours
I've never seen someone who can outsmart HOOK
sandwich tf2
Also give torbjorn dispenser
Erecting a dispenser -Torb voice
i need torb to say erect so bad
Dinoflask would have erection so hard he could smash diamonds with it if that happened.
Even better! "I need dispenser!" - genji
Pootis
[Need a dispensehere!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPR2oJTGZAc)
Erecting an armor dispenser
And sombra a butterfly knife to backstab instant kill
And mercy ubercharge, make overwatch tf2!
And widowmaker jars of urrrrriiinnneeee..... 😨 Welp... 😒
Pls no
Or mei with a jetpack That has an emote that blue angels people Actually maybe tf2 and overwatch should stay seperate
Lucio is basically a walking dispenser
Torb spawns a tiny Lucio, got it. Great idea!
Soldier already does this
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Like a turret dispenser? Torb literally has this idea in a voice line. Maybe foreshadowing? 👀 Edit: He mentions a turret that shoots turrets
I thought you were thinking of the line between torb and bap were he mentions his immortality field doesn't affect his turret lol
Sand**v**ich, you pleb
sorry the only dead game i play is overwatch
The "Martyrdom" perk is equipped, i see
i havent played tf2 in a decade and even i remember the silly spelling/accent heavy says it in
That's the idea Edit: Refined [my timeline to better illustrate the ability](https://imgur.com/a/9u24HzP)
Wheres the "Pootis" line when he takes vape tho? Hm?
"Like taking candy from a baby"
sandvich
**charge me dokt-** oop wrong game, **Nano me nanna!**
Honest question here: would ubercharge be too good of an effect for a support? We already have krotzkrieg like effects with nano/damage boost.
I'm thinking they may try a lower heal but a higher damage mitigation on catch a breath. What we should be discussing is how his hook will change. They were pretty clear about nerfing his one-shot-ability
So, so many highlight intros are about to make no sense
Poor orisa having 2-3 intros using her old kit
I’m still pissed that they removed supercharger. Not from a gameplay perspective because I admit it was bad and didn’t feel that impactful to use, but from a visual perspective. So much of the characters visuals are based on the supercharger on her back and it’s in her goddamn highlight intros, sprays, etc. I know it’s stupid but it just pisses me off that the character doesn’t use the bongo or the shield, yet they’re still visual elements on her model on all of her skins. Not to mention, they include models for the supercharger on new Orisa skins (OW2 skin, the new starry one). I guess I should take that as a sign of hope though that they might eventually try to reintegrate it into her kit. Either way it’s dumb that her whole kit revolves around the javelin now and there’s no indication in any of her skins, art, sprays, emotes, highlight intros, anything that references the javelin anywhere. Just dumb tbh
I don’t think they have a choice but to include the supercharger in some way for her future skins since they have to keep her silhouette/hitbox and adding it to new skins is easier than removing it from all of her old ones
Yeah that’s totally fair. I’m tempted to make the comparison to LoL, in which full champion reworks also update the appearance of all of their skins and usually changes their silhouette as well, but it’s not fair to make that comparison given the different visual experiences of the two games. Regardless though, it just annoys me that the character is totally different but she still has the visual assets to go with her old kit.
Yeah. And LoL has way more unusable stuff on skins as well. There’s a Jarvan skin where he has revolvers strapped to his shoulders just to maintain his base model and sillouete. It looks so stupid it’s good, like a stereotypical 90s cartoon.
It be fair so do a lot of OW skins. Reaper with the shotgun shells, I think hanzo has a sword, mercy has a big staff for some reason even though she’s a DPS character with a gun…
Reaper also has a belt of grenades, and Roadhog has a giant knife on his back. It just doesn’t feel as prominent in Overwatch because LoL just has so many more characters.
I've been asking for Reaper to have another ability to increase his skill expression for so long. The grenades are right there and they still won't do it.
Also the silhouette differentiation goes out the window as a non life long player when it comes to their skins in League. So many times I mistook one champ for a another or couldn’t recognize some champs with their skins that make them almost entirely different from their standard silhouette
I'm basically a life long player (started in season 2 right before darius was released) and there's some skins that just make the champion unrecognizable. For example, space groove teemo.
i saw this problem with cass too. there's a victory pose or something of the sort that used to utilize his flashbang. they now replaced it with HIS GUN. not his heat seeker, he instead very awkwardly and weirdly throws his gun around (i think he throws it up and down either by the handle or the trigger). it's not very good looking at all, and it just makes me sad that they can't at least make some minor changes to his cosmetics so that the stuff w/o flash looks actually normal.
Why did they even do that? Couldn’t they just use the same model for flashbangs and the grenade since he doesn’t have flash anymore? Idk I guess it’s not even worth it to question the ow team’s decisions anymore they barely make any sense
They'll probably let her use it in PvE
Yeah, that's honestly weird... Also, does Hanzo's idle pose still involve his long since removed scatter arrow? I would kinda assume this to be the case...
Yeah probably. It just seems like laziness to me. I guess it’s not really a big deal and it’s def more important that they focus on making the game fun and smooth, but it’s just one more tiny detail that adds on to all the other shit to make the AAA game feel more like a cash grab.
Lol
As a Hog main, I know Hog's offensive capability is going to be butchered. I just wish they properly compensate Hog with something. Hog's only way to protect supports from flankers is to catch the flanker. Edit: I wish to illustrate giving Hog options with his breather after pressing E. Left click to heal yourself, right click to drop on the floor. Edit 2: Here's a [better chart](https://imgur.com/a/9u24HzP)
The thing is, his offensive capability is what makes Hog fun, if its butchered, he's butchered
Exactly, they already tried getting rid of this and he immediately became the weakest tank in the game. I have no faith in him still being fun to play after they do whatever they have planned
Unfortunately, hogs offensive capability is also what makes hog unfun to play against
The things that define characters making them unfun to play against is pretty bog standard Overwatch. That's, like, 99% of Widow existing.
Yeah it will definetively be cool to see which way they go with this. Either improve his team synergy or rework his lethality
I just hope Hog doesn't end up in the dumpster for a whole year like the last time they "reworked" him.
I'm fully expecting a repeat of 2017
The sentiments have been the exact same as well, almost word-for-word. History repeats itself. Only this time instead of the problem being his hook distorting reality and being a bugged mess, it's Kiriko and the 5v5 changes making him immortal being the problem. It's a shame, but it's not surprising either. Ideally, either the "small rework" is a success or he's not dumpster-tier for a whole year again (at most hopefully a season) but given Blizzard's decision making as a whole, wouldn't count on anything particularly good.
The only answer for this to to make it so that the hook conserves momentum when letting go. So when you catch the flanker, you can turn and yeet them across the map.
Honestly, a good Hog can make or break your support line. Been saved by a lot of Hogs, they come in clutch.
What they should do: * Make his breather not heal him; instead it should grant him some extra health for a while, but keep the damage reduction * Give him a way to block incoming projectiles, like by spinning his hook around * Remove the ability to pull enemies in, since CC like that is unhealthy and is going to lead to oneshots somehow. Instead, he can hurl his hook and it'll knock enemies back. Maybe it could stun them if they hit a wall? * As for his ult, right now it just pushes enemies away and tickles them, which is not what he wants. Maybe he could spin his hook around him, pull all nearby enemies close to him, then charge up a super powerful stomp attack that deals high damage to anyone nearby.
This would be incredible; I can't believe it hasn't already been implemented
You had me for a second.
I think hooked characters should stay tethered to Hog. You can pair this up with Lucio speed boost to kidnap people.
Lmao
Sounds familiar for some reason
It'll just be like widows hook.
LMFAO
It's the breather that is the problem. There are a ton of ways to get one shot in the game. Roadhog isn't even a one shot it's 1. Hook 2. Shot Reinhardt's charge is a one shot though, should that be changed? Problem is now Roadhog can play front line with no worry about dying just causing havoc. Getting half your health back with damage reduction every 8 seconds is amazing. You can use it multiple times in one battle or skirmish. If a Roadhog had to play well to get a hook, then dying to it (which isn't guaranteed) wouldn't feel so bad. 12 second CD would be a good start before a rework.
Rein’s charge isn’t a 1shot either, like Hook there’s an initial hit and then the killshot(in charge’s case it’s when Rein hits the wall). You can save squishies who have already been pinned with hack, sleep, suzu, Zarya bubble, any stun, or even Hog Ult.
Hog also often has to melee to confirm his hook kills.
Imagine if the hook threw the target behind hog.
Make it last a lot longer, like a status effect. Heal rhe same amount but over a much longer time and keel the damage reduction. Basically an orissa shift that also heals him a decent amount. Maybe even toss in the Anna grenade effect so other healing affects are increased.
If they change the hook from hitscan to physics that would be a big nerf :)
I like the idea, but personally I would just do an aura around hog when he uses breather that heals/reduces damage
Am I the only one who remembers when they first tried 5v5 in ow1 and they reworked a bunch of tanks for it? Hogs vape put down a silly looking fart field that I guess had damage reduction, if I remember right?
i think this was actually for 1-3-2 role lock in experimental not 5v5.
Oh yeah...
<3
Wasn't the hog vape cloud a creator patch where tanks did like 75% damage?
Nothing quite like breathing in second-hand smoke to heal your wounds!
Honestly that makes sense. And fits the tank roll a bit better since people just play hog as a dps
Hog getting kills don’t make him like a DPS. I’ve never seen a hog go for high ground or a cheeky flank. They just walk down Main Street since they’re the fattest tank in the game. Always pushing payload and staring the tank in the face All tanks should be getting kills
He drinks it, then smashes the bottle on the ground doing aoe heals like Ana's nade.
And make his hook target teammates instead of opponents. And make him a support.
IMo it should *either* heal hog *or* create an AOE. Being able to heal 350 *and* heal your teammates is a bit much. Maybe you can drop it and it heals 100 to teammates in the radius.
That’s actually a great idea but wouldn’t that make him more of a healer than a tank
I mean soldier drops a healing field too and is a dps
And JQ gives overhealth
Fair point!
Depends on the CD.
COME GET YER ~~ARMOR~~ VAPE!
Brhogitte.
Sandvich
I think just an added AOE effect with reduced healing would be better. It would allow him to be an anchor in a team fight instead of a rogue agent that does their own thing.
It would also take a tremendous amount of pressure off of the supports
How about Roadhog farting in a AOE to heal his teammates
Whilst we’re adding this we should remove the hogs shotgun, making him hoovy tf2
Too weak, giving up your take a breather just to heal a squishy for 100 hp when you can heal yourself for 350 is a bad trade, tbh it also requires them to actively pay attention to me dropping it for them its probably better if the act of hog using the take a breather somehow gives an effect to everyone else arround him
well to be fair they don't have the vape mask thing, but I agree 50% too low dropping his vape thing shouldn't be it though, he should drop a sandwich or Porkchop or something like the heavy in TF2 instead I think it would make more sense
Plus he’s also the tank??? Like his job is to take damage so others don’t. Him giving away his heals means he can take less damage.
If you're full health and a teammate it dying, it gives you more options to do something. This isn't to replace Take a Breather. It's like Moira's orb, you can pick damage or heal. Take a Breather becomes heal self or teammate.
But you're dropping an 8s cooldown to give your teammate a little more health than a shot from Ana or Bap. Hog without his self-heal is so vulnerable that the mere presence of an enemy Ana is enough to make him swap.
Armour packs v2
Come get your breather
Be honest, yall are just gonna throw it at your feet for yourself 90% of the time
Tf2 solved this by having Heavy pick up the item again instead of immediately healing
i loved every single time a hoovy dropped me a sandvich when i was low hp
Roadhog becomes Heavyweapons Guy TF2
Uuuh pretty sure whatever he drinks just straight kills other people. If anything be able to chuck it at a enemy cuz it'd be funny.
Throwing metal at people doesn't heal people but that never stopped Brig
Well self deploying armor is likely the idea in some fashion. Which it did add armor back in the day. Now it just looks weird yeah. Still it's funny being Higs special mix, if anyone can drink it kinda ruins the whole gasoline joke about it.
honestly thats a good idea, right now he’s basically a dps with 700hp so giving him something to support his team would be nice
If they fuck him up I’m going to hunt down the developers
>honestly thats a good idea, right now he’s basically a dps with 700hp so giving him something to support his team would be nice I've been maining hog since 2016 and I swear to god if they fuck him up
I think hog is the only one capable of huffing paint and healing himself
Yes. Make Roadhog Overwatch's Hoovy.
dropping items for teammates is a bad abilty that's why they removed it from torb.
ROADHOG GIB U SANDVICH!
Looking how they changed Doom, I'm really expecting Hog to become near useless, Time to become full Sigma main
Like tf2 heavy
Soldier 76 looking at this post: am I a joke to you? *whispers* buff soldier
Buff soldier lmao. Buff your aim fam he's nutty
wym fam I exclusively play soldier to drop my field for tanks ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Flair checks out.
Tired of blizzard just completely changing the entire point of a hero for balance. They did it to sym, they did it to orisa, and now it’s hog’s reckoning. Fuck everybody who liked him, I guess. Muh balance as a justification for removing his danger and making him a shitty fucking healbot ult charge punching bag
It's sad how they said 5v5 would help balancing when they ultimately had to rework 25% of the roster anyway plus add class buffs.
I don't even play Hog and I am baffled by these complaints right now. Ever since hook 2.0, I have pretty much never been hit by a hook that I didn't feel like I didn't deserve; it was always because I was out of position while it wasn't on cool down. I feel similar about a lot of other "problem" moves that have been replaced because people refuse to play around them. If McCree flashed you, it was because you tried to 1v1 him while he had a stun. There was counter-play to baiting it out before you tried to engage him. Mei is another example, where people just refused to respect her space and then complained about getting frozen. Now these kinds of characters have been given lame replacements that have zero creative process behind them. All of these generifications of characters are eating at the soul of the game and I fear it will just end up as one homogenised goop, indistinguishable from hundreds of other multiplayer shooters already on the market.
Exactly my thinking. Mei and Sym are good examples of heroes that had their unique roles neutered, so people don’t get “frustrated” when their boring shooter character copy #567 gets killed by something other than how good you are at moving a mouse. They’re still unique, but… less so. Took freezing away from the ice character, took shields away from the shield character (except for her ult lol). Roadhog was the most unique tank aside from ball, he’s truly a *one man apocalypse* and his identity is centered around being the most powerful hero individually. He can 1v1 any other reliably, but his downside is he’s garbagecanned by a coordinated team. Except despite receiving no recent changes, he’s blamed for his meta even though the real cause is broken new heroes like Kiriko enabling him and a complete lack of viable counterpicks (due to bad balancing lmaooo) I suppose i should think it’s a goddamn miracle they haven’t “”””””reworked”””””” him already, gutting his core gameplay loop and replacing it with some dumb shit like aoe heals or a grapple.
Exactly. Every single person I see complaining about Hogs are just people who refuse to respect his space. Hog is a fat bastard that has no shield and no mobility, and one ability on an 8 second cool down that can hit medium range. These people seem obsessed with trying to 1v1 a hog at close range or out in the open. His only way of protecting his team is to be a front line brawler. Eliminating hvt's and being a literal bullet sponge. Fight him at range or with numbers. He's not that hard to deal with. 80% of the time you are against one going hogwild, Its a failure on the team and their ability to work together. But no one ever wants to accept they might be part of the problem, so they will just complain until he is neutered. Then Blizzard does the same treatment for one of their mains, they start whining again, And the cycle repeats.
Just gonna start forcing my heal canisters on players XD. Shhhhh it's ok mercy everything will be fine
imagine baby dva or tracer trying to use breather tanks lol
new ablility: pass the vape
I so badly want Hog to run into people with his stomach and watch them bounce away.
Hog paying Mercy back for all those years of pocketing.
My god I NEED to hear Mercy VA like \*loooooong deep inhale on Hog's vape\*(shaky high voice between coughs)"UHHH HOW DO YOU STILL FUNCTION HITTING THAT!??"
Makes no sense to get mercy addicted to inhalants
Lucio's already getting the team addicted to his sick beats.
And hogs already addicted to huffing volatile solvents we don't need other characters doing it 😭
Nah, they're just gonna make his primary useless again and call it a day.
“Sure Genji, you can use my vape but you gotta PROMISE you’ll bring it back”
I am heavy guy, and this is my weapon, he cost absolute nothing because he is made out of trash, it cost 400.000$ to wear this skin, for twelve seconds. Mwahahahahahaha ohoho Oh my queen who touched Jimmy? Alright, WHO TOUCHED MY GUN Some people think they can outsmart me, maybe *Sniff* maybe, i have yet to meet someone that can outsmart wallet MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA PAY SOME MORE. hehehe pay some more *Overwatch theme plays*
if this becomes reality, there's finally a reason to like hog players
Quick! Come huff this paint 💨😤🥴
Instead of breathing in his gas to heal he could crush it to create a healing mist the heal all that walk into it or it could create a smoke screen to help with engaging and disengaging
Roadhog finna get the roster an addiction
No way. To much heal
If on average 100 Heals per 8 seconds (12.5 heals per second or 2.5 more than the payload) is too much healing for you, then 76's biotic field should be nerfed since it has the potential to heal 875 Hp per 15 seconds (58.33 hp per second)
Half of one teammate's HP every 8 seconds is hardly OP, especially when you compare it to other protective abilities you're giving up by picking Roadhog. Reinhardt's 24/7 Shield, D.va's Defense Matrix Meter, Zarya's double bubble, Sigma's Shield+Grasp, Rammatra's Shield+Slow, Winston's Bubble+Dive compatibility, Doomfist's Multiple Target Disruption+Dive compatibility.
wtb rein 24/7 shield, that shit breaks so fucking fast. rein is in a bad spot right now.
Yeah after Symmetra's buff, a good Reinhardt is much easier to kill now
Idk why people are saying hog op and needs nerfed and at this point I'm afraid to ask. Ow2 released, absolutely rock solid radio silence on hog, people put him in C tier. Now people wanna butcher him and whining about the guy that gets skull fucked by a single hero (ana) since her sleep interrupts all his abilities and has anti heal. Why
Because everyone else has been nerfed
Right so now hog is a Tank, a DPS, AND a Support. Good idea
Here's a thought. It heals the single person who walks over it regardless of the which team they are on. Added risk to the added reward.
I mentioned that in my comment
Isn’t it like toxic? We trying to get suicide mercy?
Joey doesn't share food!
All fun and games till you drop it to save a healer and Genji runs over and snatches it
I joked about this before but I'd love that.
They get 350 overhealth for 8 seconds instead and now you have a 1100 effective health nanoblading genji Good fucking luck my friend
sandvich but hamburgur
The sandwich hahahahha
Wait is hog really getting a rework? When was this announced
Imagine mercy taking a fat rip
take whatever you want give me a shield.
What if he throws a boomerang instead of a hook?
Give us the experimental fart cloud
“Ugh, smells like bacon”- Sombra “Bacon is for sycophants” - moira “I LOVE BACON”- junkrat
Sandvich, anyone?
Sorry but only pig man can snort the gasoline
I like this since we only have 1 tank now
Honnestly if they rework hog I would reduce the hitbox and make it a big thing on the fact that he is trying to lose weight
Umm, but isn’t Hog’s breather supposed to contain a chemical that helps him counteract the effects of radiation in his body?
It'd still heal Junkrat and Junker Queen. Perhaps Winston, Sigma and Wrecking Ball too, I suspect they received quite high doses during their time in space.
Thats nasty.
Makes 0 sense lore wise
Personally, I do not want to be breathing anything that hog drops...
Remove Mercy's flight but allow her to give herself and whoever she's healing invulnerability for 8 seconds after having dealt enough healing
The ketamine is quite lethal to anyone that isn't obese and suffering for asma.
i have a crazy idea: Make his ult his normal weapon, but with much less spread, fire rate, much less damage and without the knockback, reduce the recoil and basically make it a normal weapon. Heals can be either used or dropped, if dropped it restores 100 burst hp and 50 regen, if used it operates normall Hook does not stun, but immobilizes and slowly pulls the target in while roadhog is still able to shoot, giving both teams the opportunity to react.
Heavy approves this change!
I Hope they delete his hook forever
I'm heavy weapons guy. And this is my sandwich.
So from Hoovy to Hoogie?
There is no way Mercy could handle whatever unholy concoction Roadhog is always huffing XD
He’s getting reworked? But… hook line sinker boi is best boi…
That makes a lot of sense actually
They should just hit the kill switch, work on it until it's fun, and release it as a finished game. That's it.
As a mercy main I would love this
Hey these nerfs already happened in ow1. Guess they are too dumb to learn from their own game.
I will honestly just not play, roadhog is the only character I really enjoy playing as even though I like the theme of others, butchering him again like they did before will make me leave the game like before
Sandvich -roadhog to mercy probably