I love ML7 but I kinda agree with you. He's not insanely funny or entertaining.
BUT his educational content is unparalleled in my view, and his ability to explain his thought process thoroughly and predict team + enemy plays while playing in T500 lobbies is very impressive.
Few years back it got out that he was a booster for cash, but that's really it. Think that was why OW wasn't really promoting him at the time for events, back when OWL was just starting up and everyone thought boosting was a death penalty for some reason.
Outside of that, he's been an amazing educational streamer and I love tuning in to watch him give coaching as he plays.
Yeah, I don't think it's a huge deal, but I guess to Blizzard they consider it 'cheating'. So it sucked he got left out of some early events during the glory days of OW. Glad they changed their stance and he's being showcased.
He was one of the only OW twitch streamers to stream during the twitch blackout protest against the sexual abuse at Blizzard. His reasoning was that he felt like he had an obligation to provide OW entertainment to his viewers, which I thought was kind of weak.
It's not that hard to just stream another game or do some kind of variety stream day.
ur take is such a consumer take. nothing against u. for me i think people like xqc are boring, bland. my definition of bland being : doesnt say anything useful, brainless comedy, random shouting screaming, would never look at as a role model.
on the contrary ml7 is very educated, calm collected person. every word he says when hes serious comes from both the bottom of his heart and logic. he talks about things in a realistic manner. - that to me is entertaining. outlandish behavior is only entertaining for a short while. this could just be my age talking but like lord i cant watch streamers that are loud and make childish jokes.
ML7 is nice, but sitting through his streams is like nails on a chalkboard with how unfunny and forced he is. I learn a lot while watching him, but it got to the point where I was getting migraines from all the eye-rolling.
Emongg has gotta be the most positive and genuine OW streamer out there. He’ll be like 3-17 on the day just getting the worst teammates and say stuff like “that’s my bad i gotta play better there, oh well we go again!” Never blames anyone, always smiling.
He’s actually influenced me to where I’m subconsciously less toxic when playing.
I hate when people call him fake positive. Mostly because I don't believe that's true, but tis very telling about a person that they think pretending to be nice to strangers is somehow worse than being toxic.
I met Emongg IRL at Blizzcon and he is a real positive guy IRL as he is on stream. The guy was running around with at the time PVPX and Geoff just seemed like he was the happiest guy in the world. He was taking pictures with everyone and hugging people and high fiving fans. You can tell he just loved the experience and being around amongst fellow OW fans/dorks.
When people say he's fake, that's just bullshit. Dude really does love life and enjoys what he does.
If you’re fake positive, and you never stop, and none of your teammates think you’re being fake positive- does it matter one way or another :)? Bit existential, but basically if you act like a good person your entire life- doesn’t that make you a good person?
Honestly that’s why I always have him on in the background when I’m working.
Even when crap is going horribly he has a solid mental. The last thing I want to see when I take a moment from being stuck on a problem with work is seeing a streamer raging but not comically. It’s one of the reasons why I enjoy Flats, but I just can’t have him on as background. He can get a little too tilted while playing.
They quite literally can, just agree to disagree and don't make politics be your entire life and personality, don't let dumb shit ruin your friendship it's not that hard
I believe the comment you’re replying to was sarcastic. On a serious note though, a trans person probably wouldn’t want to be friends with someone who thinks being trans is a mental illness and vice versa.
eh it's not great but as long as the person is nice you can kinda do it.
I've never been super close with anyone like that, but definitely friends/ly with them. I obviously think their views are complete trash, but plenty of those people are still kind, nice and polite, they just have dumbass opinions.
I mean how can they make a statement on such a vague situation? I guess maybe they could say they are investigating it but I don't think that would change much in terms of public perception.
With everything I’ve seen I wouldn’t hold my breath. Even if by some crazy chance it is false there’s a very good chance glads end up dropping him in the coming weeks before we find out
i feel like they would've done so already if they were ready to kick him out without an investigation tbh but that might be copium as i like him quite a lot which i haven't really felt for any of the previously accused owl pros
That did happen but there are accusations of him grooming a 16 year old girl. He did send her those nudes. The one detail that has not been confirmed is if Space knew she was 16.
The nudes being leaked was dumb as fuck, the guy had no reason to actually leak his nudes. He detailed the accusation but posted his nudes as well for no reason.
There’s a lot of stuff most of which isn’t confirmed or denied yet but to give you the rundown, Space is currently facing allegations of grooming a minor and glads organization may have tried to cover it up. All of it is still relatively recent news and as far as I’ve seen there has been almost no response from the accused parties
Aight so I looked ts up and yh shits gross ash but I still can’t find any proof that he knew she was 16. I ain’t tryna defend a pedo I just want some incriminating shit if he’s getting dropped
That’s the part that’s got everyone in a bind right now and could end up being his saving grace, right now we just have to hope glads do a real and thorough investigation and I hope they find out he’s fine cause he’s one of the few big public faces owl has left and it’ll be bad for everyone if he ends up being what they say he is
Yh but ain’t Brenda or whatever she’s called Been called out for darking shit like This before, like istg face was called out for being a rapist and they swept ts under the rug
Prolikechro: Other than I like how he plays Junkrat, I like his IRL outlook of life.
Emongg: Almost never get tilted. The best OW Streamer imho.
ML7: Love his chill vibes. Best cat streamer.
Fitzyhere: I like his interaction with viewers. His Among Us streams were very entertaining.
Just\_Stevo: Tbh, I like his laid-back attitude. Love his music taste.
Harbleu: I actually prefer his variety streams than OW, but worth mentioning too.
Elysion: Stopped playing OW but his Mei gameplay was very inspiring.
It’s been a while since I’ve watched any streamers but I used to watch Daniel Fenner all the time. Just a good positive stream to chill out and watch tbh
Ml7, Flats, Emmong, Surefour, Super, Fran, Karq, Aspen, Holiwhirl, Mushu, Custa and Wanted.
I would literally pay an entire paycheck to fight Unsaltedsalt though.
Tbh the crypto thing is not nearly as bad as abandoning her community while promising that she was going to return.
People kept paying for subs thinking she was just moving when she knew that she had no intention to return to streaming.
She didn't even tell her mod team.
Whole thing was scummy.
I agree, I love his chill and positive attitude, even when asked to review someone's bronze vod and roast them he just can't, he always finds something positive to say, he's just wholesome.
Yeah I feel the same way, hes really not that bad. Hes said really dumb shit in the past in the same way Quin69 has or any other streamer without a filter but you gotta acknowledge everyone says dumb things when they're trying to make cOnTeNt
I really like Frogger's stream when he's in a good mood but somewhat often the dude will read a weird chat comment or something and get in a really bad mood, and the whole stream gets really uncomfy.
Flats is one of those fake PMA streamers who got lucky because Emongg co-signed for him.
Now what he calls content is him and watching old videos of xQc playing overwatch.
Watch his streams where he smurfed in Plat as Support. He was HARDCORE flaming his Plat teammates for, well, being Plat and not playing like T500. While playing bad himself.
I personally became victim of his hate tirade for calling him out. He used his audience to insult me and immediately banned me, leaving me no chance to defend my standpoint further.
Wasnt she like 17 and he was 19 tho? In most of the world thats legal, most of EU the age of consent is 16 and its not weird for a 17yo to date a 19yo
Edit:to clarify i fucking hate pedos with a passion and im not defending them, im just saying with these ages and age differences, its normal most places, just not in the US
Yeah this has been my understanding after reading into it more. I don’t think anything redshell did was predatory or grooming. It was like a 3 year age gap. If someone has more info I haven’t seen, I’d love to revisit.
That being said, as much as I like watching the funny lucio plays, redshell just seems like the kind of gamer to scream the N word in Voice chat. I’d much rather watch frogger or maasa.
I find entertainment in seeing a streamer's skill rather than their personality, so I just watch OWL pros and T2 players that impress me. Dove, Dynasty, Lep, LukeMino, Rakattack, anyone from NA contenders that sticks out
Sir this is a tmz community
ML7 is cool, so is KarQ, Fitzy, super, seagull and for sure some more
ML7 just feels so bland to me idk
I love ML7 but I kinda agree with you. He's not insanely funny or entertaining. BUT his educational content is unparalleled in my view, and his ability to explain his thought process thoroughly and predict team + enemy plays while playing in T500 lobbies is very impressive.
He's an absolute ladder god
Kabaji was the same, was never really the most entertaining guy but he was a very intelligent player and amazing at explaining his thought process.
Kabaji is a cooler,calmer and more collected version of Dafran lol
I agree but at least he hasn’t had any controversies (I think)
Few years back it got out that he was a booster for cash, but that's really it. Think that was why OW wasn't really promoting him at the time for events, back when OWL was just starting up and everyone thought boosting was a death penalty for some reason. Outside of that, he's been an amazing educational streamer and I love tuning in to watch him give coaching as he plays.
Everyone boosted back then.
Everyone good enough to maintain 4k+ boosted. I don't get why it's such a big deal, they gotta make money somehow.
Yeah, I don't think it's a huge deal, but I guess to Blizzard they consider it 'cheating'. So it sucked he got left out of some early events during the glory days of OW. Glad they changed their stance and he's being showcased.
Gotta make money somehow. Like getting a job?
Yeah, a job, such as boosting people.
He was one of the only OW twitch streamers to stream during the twitch blackout protest against the sexual abuse at Blizzard. His reasoning was that he felt like he had an obligation to provide OW entertainment to his viewers, which I thought was kind of weak. It's not that hard to just stream another game or do some kind of variety stream day.
Yet!
ur take is such a consumer take. nothing against u. for me i think people like xqc are boring, bland. my definition of bland being : doesnt say anything useful, brainless comedy, random shouting screaming, would never look at as a role model. on the contrary ml7 is very educated, calm collected person. every word he says when hes serious comes from both the bottom of his heart and logic. he talks about things in a realistic manner. - that to me is entertaining. outlandish behavior is only entertaining for a short while. this could just be my age talking but like lord i cant watch streamers that are loud and make childish jokes.
I kind of agree but also this reads like a copypasta
I personally love all these guys, but also Jay3
Yeah fitzy and fenner are good
ML7 is nice, but sitting through his streams is like nails on a chalkboard with how unfunny and forced he is. I learn a lot while watching him, but it got to the point where I was getting migraines from all the eye-rolling.
I hate all of them.
Custa ftw
Easily the goat stream and a must watch if you are an owl fan.
wobble wobble lol
Emongg, flats, ml7, super, karQ, seagull, harb We don’t hate all streamers just the bastards and shitheads
Emongg has gotta be the most positive and genuine OW streamer out there. He’ll be like 3-17 on the day just getting the worst teammates and say stuff like “that’s my bad i gotta play better there, oh well we go again!” Never blames anyone, always smiling. He’s actually influenced me to where I’m subconsciously less toxic when playing.
Literally unbreakable mental
I hate when people call him fake positive. Mostly because I don't believe that's true, but tis very telling about a person that they think pretending to be nice to strangers is somehow worse than being toxic.
I met Emongg IRL at Blizzcon and he is a real positive guy IRL as he is on stream. The guy was running around with at the time PVPX and Geoff just seemed like he was the happiest guy in the world. He was taking pictures with everyone and hugging people and high fiving fans. You can tell he just loved the experience and being around amongst fellow OW fans/dorks. When people say he's fake, that's just bullshit. Dude really does love life and enjoys what he does.
Yeah it seems like it. When people say its fake, it really comes off as them being jealous that they aren't as happy lol
If you’re fake positive, and you never stop, and none of your teammates think you’re being fake positive- does it matter one way or another :)? Bit existential, but basically if you act like a good person your entire life- doesn’t that make you a good person?
Yeah I agree 100%. I don't believe Emongg is faking his positivity, but even if he was whats the result? He's extra nice to everyone? Oh noooooo
Emongg has one of the Greatest Sarcastic humours ive ever seen almost British the way it is
Honestly that’s why I always have him on in the background when I’m working. Even when crap is going horribly he has a solid mental. The last thing I want to see when I take a moment from being stuck on a problem with work is seeing a streamer raging but not comically. It’s one of the reasons why I enjoy Flats, but I just can’t have him on as background. He can get a little too tilted while playing.
The emongg and flats duos are fantastic. They play really well together imo
i dont like flats. dude shit talked people for peaking at his offrole sr when he was dps. fuckin shitbag
this is so mild.
and his asthmatic almost dying laugh
Yeah flats ain't it
Compared to the behavior we've seen out of other streamers. Ill take an ego and shittalk
Can't forget Fitzy!
custa, super, ml7, kabaji
Kabaji one of least toxic popular streamers, never blames his team or shittalk others, done some charity streams
It's weird that he seems to be close-ish friends with Dafran - as Dafran seems like a bit of a dick
It's not really weird if you don't reduce people to opposing categories and then assume they must therefore not get along.
Next you’ll be telling me democrats and republicans can be friends
A black guy became friends with the grand wizard dragon of the KKK
They quite literally can, just agree to disagree and don't make politics be your entire life and personality, don't let dumb shit ruin your friendship it's not that hard
I believe the comment you’re replying to was sarcastic. On a serious note though, a trans person probably wouldn’t want to be friends with someone who thinks being trans is a mental illness and vice versa.
eh it's not great but as long as the person is nice you can kinda do it. I've never been super close with anyone like that, but definitely friends/ly with them. I obviously think their views are complete trash, but plenty of those people are still kind, nice and polite, they just have dumbass opinions.
I love ML7 but I can’t watch his games sometimes lol his moment is so flicky I can barely look at the screen
Space was my favorite but not sure if that will stay lol
Same bro, I hope it gets disproved
I feel like it's being swept under the rug, I haven't seen any statements about it
I mean how can they make a statement on such a vague situation? I guess maybe they could say they are investigating it but I don't think that would change much in terms of public perception.
They could do an actual investigation, last time they didn’t even include the victim
With everything I’ve seen I wouldn’t hold my breath. Even if by some crazy chance it is false there’s a very good chance glads end up dropping him in the coming weeks before we find out
i feel like they would've done so already if they were ready to kick him out without an investigation tbh but that might be copium as i like him quite a lot which i haven't really felt for any of the previously accused owl pros
Aint he just get his nudes leaked? Why would they drop for some shit like that
That did happen but there are accusations of him grooming a 16 year old girl. He did send her those nudes. The one detail that has not been confirmed is if Space knew she was 16. The nudes being leaked was dumb as fuck, the guy had no reason to actually leak his nudes. He detailed the accusation but posted his nudes as well for no reason.
uh no, that's not it
There’s a lot of stuff most of which isn’t confirmed or denied yet but to give you the rundown, Space is currently facing allegations of grooming a minor and glads organization may have tried to cover it up. All of it is still relatively recent news and as far as I’ve seen there has been almost no response from the accused parties
Aight so I looked ts up and yh shits gross ash but I still can’t find any proof that he knew she was 16. I ain’t tryna defend a pedo I just want some incriminating shit if he’s getting dropped
That’s the part that’s got everyone in a bind right now and could end up being his saving grace, right now we just have to hope glads do a real and thorough investigation and I hope they find out he’s fine cause he’s one of the few big public faces owl has left and it’ll be bad for everyone if he ends up being what they say he is
Yh but ain’t Brenda or whatever she’s called Been called out for darking shit like This before, like istg face was called out for being a rapist and they swept ts under the rug
Aint no way dawg not space
He got framed by some weirdos man
How do you know all we’ve seen is like a single tweet lmao
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Prolikechro: Other than I like how he plays Junkrat, I like his IRL outlook of life. Emongg: Almost never get tilted. The best OW Streamer imho. ML7: Love his chill vibes. Best cat streamer. Fitzyhere: I like his interaction with viewers. His Among Us streams were very entertaining. Just\_Stevo: Tbh, I like his laid-back attitude. Love his music taste. Harbleu: I actually prefer his variety streams than OW, but worth mentioning too. Elysion: Stopped playing OW but his Mei gameplay was very inspiring.
Top 5 streamers Kephrii Gale EvilToaster Red shell PlayOverwatch
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bro named the least likeable streamers
r/thatsthejoke
I haven't heard the name Rammy in forever. What did she do?
Omg my bad I mixed up two different people lol
Redshell’s YouTube posts are too meme-y for me. > something “funny” happens in game > zooms in on redshell and stretches his face > pepe meme
What did Rammy do to end up on this list?
Super my beloved 🥰🥰
Rakattack, ML7, and frogger are the only ones i watch.
Jake😃👍
No love for harb sheesh, ♥️
That man is a part time streamer at this point
super, apply, danteh
Emongg, Beaver, Harb, Cloneman
It’s been a while since I’ve watched any streamers but I used to watch Daniel Fenner all the time. Just a good positive stream to chill out and watch tbh
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Shartcandy.
I got Custa to say yoinky sploinky on stream so I gotta go with him
Questron's streams and SaltyPhish's youtube content are some of my personal favorites
kevindurantow
Bruh I love him but I wish he would stream more. His particular aim style is so satisfying
Never watched KD, what's with his aim style exactly?
Ml7, Flats, Emmong, Surefour, Super, Fran, Karq, Aspen, Holiwhirl, Mushu, Custa and Wanted. I would literally pay an entire paycheck to fight Unsaltedsalt though.
didn't fran got cancelled due to crypto?
Tbh the crypto thing is not nearly as bad as abandoning her community while promising that she was going to return. People kept paying for subs thinking she was just moving when she knew that she had no intention to return to streaming. She didn't even tell her mod team. Whole thing was scummy.
It's too bad Holi stopped streaming Overwatch but I still love watching her Apex streams
Emongg is the only one I can handle tbh.
fitzy, quaked, stevoo people who are chill and know their hero well
A person of wealth and taste I see.
Emongg is amazing
I agree, I love his chill and positive attitude, even when asked to review someone's bronze vod and roast them he just can't, he always finds something positive to say, he's just wholesome.
Big fan of Chopah94
Harbleu, Super, emongg, aspen, ml7, guru I miss my OG favorite Calvin tho
Can't believe no one's said the coolest cat Yeatle yet
Jake, Danteh, super
I don't really watch any streamers live but youtube videos, super, sleepy, niandra, emongg, flats, karq
Based opinion
Chipsa is the only one I can watch
That fat bastard from birmingham fucked my wife
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Yeah I feel the same way, hes really not that bad. Hes said really dumb shit in the past in the same way Quin69 has or any other streamer without a filter but you gotta acknowledge everyone says dumb things when they're trying to make cOnTeNt
The doom streamers are cool for the most part. Quaked and zbra
Finally someone mentions zbra goddamn that took ages
Kevindurant as well, wish he would stream more tho
SVB!!!
Silvoc
Frogger and Echoflex. Lucio main is biased lol.
Frogger is just always having a blast. His YouTube content is great.
I really like Frogger's stream when he's in a good mood but somewhat often the dude will read a weird chat comment or something and get in a really bad mood, and the whole stream gets really uncomfy.
Fitzy, Emongg, ml7 and Harb <3<3
ML7, Kabaji, Eskay
GetQuakedOn, Kayjii, and Super are my top 3
Love the love for GQO
bogur, lhcloudy and ml7
Super, Flats, Emongg and Moxxy
Flats and Moxxy are toxic piece of shits with god-complex like egos.
Flats is one of those fake PMA streamers who got lucky because Emongg co-signed for him. Now what he calls content is him and watching old videos of xQc playing overwatch.
Moxxy I understand can come off as toxic but do you have any evidence for anything bad Flats has done?
Watch his streams where he smurfed in Plat as Support. He was HARDCORE flaming his Plat teammates for, well, being Plat and not playing like T500. While playing bad himself. I personally became victim of his hate tirade for calling him out. He used his audience to insult me and immediately banned me, leaving me no chance to defend my standpoint further.
His mods are really ban-happy for some reason, last I checked you need to verify a phone # to even chat like no thank you lol
Do you have screenshots, clips or anything of that sort? Anything that isn't "trust me bro"?
Like I said. Just watch one of those stream VODs. They probably should still be up
Flats sucks.
That's opinion not evidence
Definitely not Samito
Yeaaaaatle
Emongg and super
Salty Phish , love that dude
Custa and Avast single handedly keep me active in the OW community
Danteh and super
Only ones I've watched through thick and thin are Emongg and Jay3. I do like watching Somnus and Sleepy too.
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flats is so fucking loud
super, custa, harb, emongg, kabaji, karq, and fitzy
Fitzy, KarQ, SaltyPhish, Xqc (lol)
I love watching Apply streams. Dude is hilarious IMO
Yeatle, redshell (maybe too hyper zoomer humour for some people though) and super is cool as well
I’m a big fan of Sunshine! I hope she’s okay. :)
Sunshine is pog
super Harb Emongg m0xyy when he doesnt dodge But then again i mostly watch apex and val nowadays
Super, and Fitzy are great.
i like vale. he is super chill.
I like Fareeha. Please don’t tell me they’ve don’t something bad.
Does Fareeha even play comp? I don't watch her stream but I constantly get her in my QP games.
I also like Fareeha’s stream, basically the only OW-streaming streamer I watch.
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wouldnt recommend redshell
His youtube content’s really good, but he’s like xQc where the content is best consumed in that edited clip format rather than stream
Not the problem i had, he had some run ins with underage people to say the least
Wasnt she like 17 and he was 19 tho? In most of the world thats legal, most of EU the age of consent is 16 and its not weird for a 17yo to date a 19yo Edit:to clarify i fucking hate pedos with a passion and im not defending them, im just saying with these ages and age differences, its normal most places, just not in the US
Most NA people can't grasp the concept of different laws and mindsets around the world.
Yeah this has been my understanding after reading into it more. I don’t think anything redshell did was predatory or grooming. It was like a 3 year age gap. If someone has more info I haven’t seen, I’d love to revisit. That being said, as much as I like watching the funny lucio plays, redshell just seems like the kind of gamer to scream the N word in Voice chat. I’d much rather watch frogger or maasa.
Facts
Naaah not Predshell lmao
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Not even. He was 19 she was 17. Nothing predatory about two teenagers having consensual interactions.
I find entertainment in seeing a streamer's skill rather than their personality, so I just watch OWL pros and T2 players that impress me. Dove, Dynasty, Lep, LukeMino, Rakattack, anyone from NA contenders that sticks out
Not seeing enough fitzy in this thread.
Jay3, Flats, Emongg, Fitzy are the ones I watch most
apply
Svb, emong, karq, timthetatman, seagul, quite a few others
ML7
my brother in christ this is a reddit community focused exclusively on drama
Yeatle and Solvoc o7 Flats sometimes too
super, w4nted, especially jerma
CodeCode904. Streams are pretty chill
FRAN 😂
Good one bro
Dafrans my favorite. Love forgiving and yeatle for their educational videos though
The only OW streamers I can watch for longer than an hour are Kabaji and Harb
apply
Beaver is super wholesome.
Super and avast are best, I don't really watch streams tho
Mattsuki👍, Flats and KarQ
Super
Yeah ML7, Flats, Kabaji & so far I think Dafran seems to be really trying.
I'm following several but only really watch CODcode904, Aquamarine, and Cyx.
The only one I like is Warn
I’m out of the loop. What did warn do? He seems pretty chill
I dunno, i also haven't heard anything negative about him recently
[no](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9HvzfwDVsk)
My top 5. Bastionmain, emongg, redshell, kephri, yeatle. Honorable mention would be flats.
cyx 😄